[ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Jasper Schalken
I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown, it's lumpy, and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a pleasant combination :P.In my opinion, to prevent brown from looking like, well, what brown's usual connotation is, the theme needs to be smooth and clean. This includes the use of smooth textures, matte preferred and Dapper's current light tans also help, but browns and glosses can work just as well.
JMak did an excellent job of this in his login screens. He kept the same brown or tan hue throughout and the background was a plain matte circular gradient like Dapper's login.
Junel Mujar also made some excellent backgrounds using very muted tones here.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello Jasper,

Am Dienstag, den 12.09.2006, 17:03 +1000 schrieb Jasper Schalken:
 I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown, it's lumpy,
 and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a pleasant
 combination :P.
 
 In my opinion, to prevent brown from looking like, well, what brown's
 usual connotation is, the theme needs to be smooth and clean. 

I'd really wish you'd read the Code of Conduct [1]. I told you in a bug
report already to be more respectful. People in here put a lot of work
into the current artwork and you're talking to them. Do you honestly
except them to answer your concerns, if you're being blunt or making
fun of them? 

Please try to pick your words carefully next time.

[1] http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct


Have a nice day,
 Daniel



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Mark Shuttleworth




Jasper Schalken wrote:
I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown,
it's lumpy, and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a
pleasant combination :P.

This is NOT constructive criticism of someone else's work! Please
choose your words more carefully in future.

In my opinion, to prevent brown from looking like, well,
what brown's usual connotation is, the theme needs to be smooth and
clean. This includes the use of smooth textures, matte preferred and
Dapper's current light tans also help, but browns and glosses can work
just as well.
  
  
JMak did an excellent job of this in his login
screens. He kept the same brown or tan hue throughout and the
background was a plain matte circular gradient like Dapper's login.
  
  
Junel Mujar also made some excellent backgrounds using very muted tones
  here.


Both good pointers. Troy Sobotka just called for more comments to help
get Edgy's artwork nailed, so your timing is good.

Mark


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Michiel Sikma

Op 12-sep-2006, om 10:35 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende  
geschreven:

 Both good pointers. Troy Sobotka just called for more comments to  
 help get Edgy's artwork nailed, so your timing is good.

 Mark

That's true. We need to have more people actively criticizing art.  
Don't worry about not contributing other than giving criticism, since  
that is needed as well. I don't think that what you've sent to the  
list was very useful, though, since you didn't provide any reasoning  
(except that it looks like feces, which I don't consider to be  
helpful at all; if you're afraid that this type of art will remain in  
the distro till the final release, try putting more time and thought  
into your alarm calls).

Troy and I are occasionally coming together on IRC to discuss the  
artwork while making changes based on each other's input and I think  
it's working out very well. Maybe I could stress the importance of  
IRC again: it just works very well when several people have time to  
spend on Ubuntu.

Michiel

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Hi everyone!! I haven't seen the WallpaperProposal page yet, and now I'm very impressed. Junel Mujar wallpapers are simply awesome. Simply, clean and very beautiful. Also I love Michiel Sikma work. It remainds me a lot to MacOS X 
10.2 or 10.3 wallpaper style. The tones are quite different to the old ubuntu wallpapers but I think it could fit perfect on ubuntu desktop.Have a nice day!Álvaro.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] FC6' s DNA

2006-09-12 Thread Viper550
Chuck Huber wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 18:14 -0400, Viper550 wrote:
   
 I have found the final artwork for Fedora Core 6 (the next version of my 
 preferred Linux distro), and I will tell you one thing now: It's going 
 to wow you from your eyes to your DNA literally, because instead of 
 widespread bubbles, we have double helixes everywhere now!

 http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/
 
 snip
   
 Viper550

 
 snip
   
Yeah, apparently, not many people liked the Bubbles theme going on in 
FC5. If anyone wonders: The GTK theme they use is Cairo Clearlooks, and 
the Clearlooks 0.6 metacity (NOT the Clearlooks 2 metacity from 
FC5...which just happened to get modded into the Human metacity). Oh 
yeah one more thing: Fedora Core 5 has a patch in gnome-session that 
moves the icons up on the splash screen (which I really hate). Then, 
Bluecurve is getting the boot anyway with the new Echo icons (which look 
totally awesome (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/EchoDevelopment , 
you can download them there too!). Also, I think they chose DNA because 
their new logo kinda looks like DNA, and it shows off the 4 elements of 
the new logo Infinity - Progress - Technology - Evolution. But 
still...AWESOME!

Viper550



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Troy James Sobotka
On Tue, 2006-12-09 at 17:03 +1000, Jasper Schalken wrote:
 I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown, it's lumpy,
 and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a pleasant
 combination :P.
 

Yikes.  There is another version without the dappling here:

wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/CurrentDefault

PS:  If you have blue and red in there, I would go get that 
checked out.  It generally isn't a good sign.


 JMak did an excellent job of this in his login screens. He kept the
 same brown or tan hue throughout and the background was a plain matte
 circular gradient like Dapper's login. 
 

I agree 100%.  I think Jmak's top logon is probably the best
design I have seen in a long long while.  That said, the
GDM is unlikely to change if you do a little research into
the issue.  With a few minor tweaks to unify it with the
existing Ubuntu fixed palette items, I believed that it could
have been a wonderful GDM.

 Junel Mujar also made some excellent backgrounds using very muted
 tones here.

Gnome-look has many too. 

Thanks for your awareness and insight.  The best way to achieve
results is to keep the participation level high.

Sincerely,
TJS


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2006-09-12 Thread Alberto Núñez
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Re: [ubuntu-art] (no subject)

2006-09-12 Thread Michiel Sikma
Welcome to the list, I guess.

Michiel

Op 12-sep-2006, om 16:18 heeft Alberto Núñez het volgende geschreven:

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Re: [ubuntu-art] From the Fedora User to the Ubuntu Art Team: Here's your big competition...

2006-09-12 Thread PingunZ
I don't like the fedora artwork a lot.Its just polished, that's what makes it so good.Novell has the same, it looks nice because it is polished.If you make every splash, gdm, wallpaper, .. based on ONE image you get a VERY nice result.
So .. a grub image, usplash, gdm, gsplash, wallpaper, some app splashes ( OOo, xara, gimp, .. ). For the gtk/metacity, just use contrasted colors and for the icons just make them fit in :)Meaning, if the GDM is glossy, the icons should be too..
IMO this is the worst thing about ubuntu-artwork. It doesn't look bad, its just not polished.( I'm talking about dapper )You have no grub-splash, you have an old looking gdm, with a new shiny gsplash. 
A very ugly wallpaper, totally not fitting any rest of the theme..If ubuntu-art wants to concuer with Suse or Fedora they _will_ have to polish !!Cheers2006/9/12, Chuck Huber 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 18:14 -0400, Viper550 wrote:
 I have found the final artwork for Fedora Core 6 (the next version of my preferred Linux distro), and I will tell you one thing now: It's going to wow you from your eyes to your DNA literally, because instead of
 widespread bubbles, we have double helixes everywhere now! http://people.redhat.com/dfong/fc6graphics/snip Viper550
Well from the looks of this art it's pretty clear that Fedora's artworkgoals are different than ours so while it may be perfect for some usersnot everyone will be inspired by it.And by the looks of that I'd say a
fair number will be intimidated instead.I installed the fedora wallpaper from the link above and you're rightabout it looking pretty smart.In combination with a glossy black imageon the panel and a dark gtk-metacity combo it would look geeky as heck.
The GDM theme fits right in if that's the goal.Looks like you're goingto need a degree in computer science immediately after logging in. Maybethe carntoonish nature of their icons will lessen that some but then it
may actually be their intention.The logon splash at the bottom of the page gets kudos for looking a bitmore interesting than the basic round cornered rectangle that it is(byadding the extension around the helix cord on the far right).Good use
of the 1 bit transparency there i'd say.I'm happy to see fedora pushing their art a little more!It's going tobe a very technical look but then for free desktops to be takenseriously they have to be competitive on every level.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Joao Inacio
On 9/12/06, qingjia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:23:54 +0800, Troy James Sobotka
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  JMak did an excellent job of this in his login screens. He kept the
  same brown or tan hue throughout and the background was a plain matte
  circular gradient like Dapper's login.

100% agree.  JMak's design is the best I've ever seen. It's bloody
 amazing and sexy. It would be perfect if JMak's design could be adopted by
 Ubuntu.


Personally, and though i love the design itself, i don't find the dark
brown colors that enjoyable. I mean... the screens look good but i
simply can't imagine myself actually using a gdm theme with dark brown
colors.

My POV is from a simple user and i don't have any art knowledge, but
imho many users will agree with this.


Still, it's amazing the work that's been done and i'll be extremely
happy to see the final results!

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[ubuntu-art] Announcing: Fonty Python - TTF Font manager for Gnu/Linux

2006-09-12 Thread Donn
Greeting,
I am new to the list. I hope to contribute with this little app I just 
finished. It's Free and under the GPL. Read on.

I am a designer and I missed the ability to view fonts, sort them into 
collections and install/remove those collections. I had to scratch the itch 
and as I was learning Python and wxPython, I thought what the heck!

With Fonty Python you can select ttf fonts and put them into pogs (from the 
word typography). You can place fonts into pogs from a folder or from another 
pog. You then install the pog you need. After that, you fire-up Inkscape (or 
Gimp, or Sodipodi, or Blender etc)  and those fonts *should* appear in the 
font dialogue. Do your design, and when you are done and don't need them 
anymore, you simply remove the pog! It will be there for next time.

It helps to keep fonts organized per project/client/job. It also help 
keep font clutter out of the various font choosers.

If you are interested in trying it out, you can get it from:
https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/fontypython

I am still moving into the Savannah website, I hope to have a short manual 
and so forth in the near future. The tarball (the download file) contains a 
README that you should consult.
I have registered on Launchpad too, but it's hosted at Savannah (FSF)

Please let me know your experiences with it. I apologise in advance if it 
melts your CPU, insults your toaster and then electrocutes you :)

Donn.
( South Africa )
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Edgy's current art looks like fecal matter :O

2006-09-12 Thread Chuck Huber
Something to keep in mind for those that haven't actually tried the
artwork live:  The dappling effect is entirely different on fullscreen
than it appears in the thumbnail view.  Depending on your monitor size
and resolution it can be almost unnoticable at times, so I'd recommend
people try it before judging the artwork.

After seeing the thumbnail view, I also expected a strong dappling
effect and had to downloaded xara to double it after finding it hardly
visible on my machine.

Chuck

On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 06:23 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-12-09 at 17:03 +1000, Jasper Schalken wrote:
  I know I'm being blunt, but it's true. It's dark brown, it's lumpy,
  and it has red and green streaks running through it. Not a pleasant
  combination :P.
  
 
 Yikes.  There is another version without the dappling here:
 
 wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtworkPlan/Produce/Incoming/CurrentDefault
 
 PS:  If you have blue and red in there, I would go get that 
 checked out.  It generally isn't a good sign.
 
 
  JMak did an excellent job of this in his login screens. He kept the
  same brown or tan hue throughout and the background was a plain matte
  circular gradient like Dapper's login. 
  
 
 I agree 100%.  I think Jmak's top logon is probably the best
 design I have seen in a long long while.  That said, the
 GDM is unlikely to change if you do a little research into
 the issue.  With a few minor tweaks to unify it with the
 existing Ubuntu fixed palette items, I believed that it could
 have been a wonderful GDM.
 
  Junel Mujar also made some excellent backgrounds using very muted
  tones here.
 
 Gnome-look has many too. 
 
 Thanks for your awareness and insight.  The best way to achieve
 results is to keep the participation level high.
 
 Sincerely,
 TJS
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