Re: [ubuntu-art] The shredder icon for delete sucks
2006/12/21, Nacho de los Ríos Tormo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Nacho de los Ríos wrote: > > > >> The icons suck, and the metaphors suck. They have to be replaced > >> > > > > Very counterproductive and negative approach. > > > > Free software design has a little growing room, and you could get in on > > the ground floor by providing positive techniques to overcome these > > sorts of issues. > > > > Perhaps offering up a design plan, an alternative, or something to build > > on might be more applicable? > > > > There are many that _might_ agree with your position, however, the > > manner in which you state it will garner zero attention. It doesn't > > take much effort for a seagull to fly over and poop on the crowd below. > > It _does_ take a good deal of effort to engage the issues and work to > > resolve them. > > > > Once again, it is always easier to tear down than build upwards. > > > > > > I AM offering suggestions: You ARE bashing other people work while "offering suggestions" and it is not the best way possible to do it. > > I said the orange disks are too featureless and so they don't stand out > from each other, which defeats their purpose. > > I said that the current drawings on the emblems are oversimplified and > that it is difficult to recognize what they represent, let alone what > they stand for. I also said that some are ugly, which I believe is > indeed a problem. Again I don't think the word "ugly" is a good choice here, "not very good in my opinion" would sound a lot better. [SNIP] > > By the way, the idea to relate icons with locales is an excellent idea, > although I'm afraid we don't have the power to bring it forward. It > would have to be proposed and defended somewhere upstream. Upstream doesn't have enough man power as well atm. Ciao Lapo -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] The shredder icon for delete sucks
> Nacho de los Ríos wrote: > >> The icons suck, and the metaphors suck. They have to be replaced >> > > Very counterproductive and negative approach. > > Free software design has a little growing room, and you could get in on > the ground floor by providing positive techniques to overcome these > sorts of issues. > > Perhaps offering up a design plan, an alternative, or something to build > on might be more applicable? > > There are many that _might_ agree with your position, however, the > manner in which you state it will garner zero attention. It doesn't > take much effort for a seagull to fly over and poop on the crowd below. > It _does_ take a good deal of effort to engage the issues and work to > resolve them. > > Once again, it is always easier to tear down than build upwards. > > I AM offering suggestions: I said the orange disks are too featureless and so they don't stand out from each other, which defeats their purpose. I said that the current drawings on the emblems are oversimplified and that it is difficult to recognize what they represent, let alone what they stand for. I also said that some are ugly, which I believe is indeed a problem. I said their problem is one of lack of color and detail I said that some of the Tango icons also lack detail and contrast and that also makes them difficult to recognize. I pointed to two that I believe are bad choices (the shredder and the crumpled paper). If in your eyes that only makes me a seagull that shits over the crowd, well, not being able to take criticism won't make it easy to build anything upwards. Listen, I may or most likely may not be able to design better images than what we've got, but I do believe I have spotted problems, and I have the perfect right to state them. That said, I'll try to tread more lightly in the future, although I'm afraid we're all to happy with ourselves to garner too much progress. By the way, the idea to relate icons with locales is an excellent idea, although I'm afraid we don't have the power to bring it forward. It would have to be proposed and defended somewhere upstream. Regards, .Nacho. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
On 12/21/06, Alexander van Loon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the > fonts used in Ubuntu. > > Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but > why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of > Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font? > That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts, > why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there > is one font which is the best choice? > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334758 -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the fonts used in Ubuntu. Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font? That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts, why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there is one font which is the best choice? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
