Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Mockup
Jesus, this one really throw me down! Really, really good..it would be nice if this one survived till the end.. T. On Dec 18, 2007 9:10 PM, Thomas L.G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh well since we're all mocking up now, let me throw in a suggestion as well: http://www.portefolje.net/div/mockup.jpg Based on Ken's suggestion on this list. Some modifications (darker top area + some reflection, hover, consistent menus, dark notifications with some reflection). Another wallpaper (stock-image from sxc.hu), and another top-panel. Please ignore the ugly notification-icons at top right and other glitches - it is all just photoshop mocking! Also, I didn't make any minimize/maximize-icons yet, I really don't think we should use the Vista-like ones... - Thomas L.G AA Boy skrev: Oops, for some reason teh link got deleted. Oh well, here it is again! :D http://www.smartboy.salocinlinux.org/db/ubuntu-mockup.png On 12/18/07, *Corey Woodworth* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks invisible to me. On Dec 18, 2007 4:32 PM, AA Boy [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been thinking about what I would like Ubuntu to look like, and made a mockup. Pretty much every shape in this except the panel background and wallpaper is made using SVGs. I may supply sources latter if anyone is interested in them. I didn't do windows yet (since I use Enlightenment, and don't want to change GNOME's theme right now), but I think this may be enough to start with. Anyway, please comment. I tried to make this a pleasing black/brown/orange theme. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Members details
Hi, all! Tiago Souza, live in Recife, Brazil, 22 year old. Trying to make Ubuntu the beautifullest linux distro. =D Next! On Nov 20, 2007 7:52 PM, H. Bons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hylke hbons Bons, 20, The Netherlands On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:46:54 +0100 Andreas Nilsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steph wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to know from wich country is everybody here, and wich language do you speak (might be useful). I thought about a new Member Page on the Ubuntu Wiki, section Art, but maybe it's too private for some of us ? I'm Steph, 17 years old and living in Montpellier, France. Your turn :) Hi! My name is Andreas Nilsson. From Sweden. 25 years old. - Andreas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dark Light - Mockup
Sweet. About the search button, I think we should try to implement that visual in the deskbar applet, without it having to open a new window. I mean, an integrated search would be nice. Something visualy like this: http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/Make+Topaz+Ideas+a+Reality Maybe Neil Patel knows how to do this, since his is a participant of AWN community. Nice icons, by the way. T. On Nov 18, 2007 2:34 AM, Brad Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been fooling around in Photoshop when i get bored, and here's what i've come up with.. Dark Mockup -- http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Dark-67903127 Light Mockup -- http://bradwjensen.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Theme-Mockup-Light-69993148 This is just something i would like to see in Ubuntu/Linux.. It's simple, elegant, and saves space. It's mainly for ideas i guess, since it most likely wont all happen.. I think Ubuntu needs more than just a theme.. it needs cleaner functionality / simplicity. I know some of it might not be what people would want to work on, coding wise; like the Menu list in the Titlebar (which would have to turn into a drop down button on the left of the titlebar when a window is dragged to a small width), but i've seen it done in iTunes and it saves a lot of space.. We would not really need to do everything exactly if we were to do it like this mockup / idea.. What do people think? I'm open to suggestions / opinions. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] using a dark theme
Let me make a suggestion (especially for you, kwii): I really think we should begin to seriously talk about major changes in the UI look a year before the release that will bring it, and I think that we should be doing what we are doing right now six months ago. Well, nobody could see all these problems coming, so it's natural that right now we have a very little time scale to do all the things we want to do - that's nobody fault. But we should learn from our mistakes, and for the next big change, I STRONGLY SUGGEST that the UDS talk really seriously about the major look changes two releases early - that is, a year before. This also opens the space to the UDS discuss it two times, one in the beginning and another in the middle of the process, so that mistakes can be corrected without hurry. For now, I agree with Who - we probably can't have a dark theme this time around and have the polish an LTS release needs. This is our oportunitty to make things right (IMHO!) and put Ubuntu in the top with a beautiful new look - if we don't do that REALLY well, I think it could be a real big problem... T. On Nov 15, 2007 11:11 PM, Who [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a note: I think we should probably be filing upstream bugs about apps that don't work properly with dark themes (providing new art/solutions, if we can... we are an art team - after all!) While it is unlikely to result in a fix soon, it might mean that a year or so down the track a user wanting to have a dark theme doesn't have nearly as many barriers to contend with :) So, I agree - we probably can't have a dark theme this time around and also have the level of polish an LTS release needs. On Nov 16, 2007 1:33 AM, Tiago Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another problem: try to play Mines with a dark theme. It's nearly impossible... T. On Nov 15, 2007 5:59 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often wish we could have two colourings for controls. One dark one for controls out of focus and light colours for the active window. There is a compiz plugin can fake this but actual correct colouring would be better. For example using the ADD Helper plugin I currently have non-focused windows darkened 10%, and de-saturated 50%. tonic On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:28 -0600, Matthew Nuzum wrote: I've been experimenting with using dark themes. I've tried the Ubuntu Studio theme, which looks very shiny, and I've tried a customized theme which looks like this: http://code.bearfruit.org/~matt/MattsDesktop.jpg I used my customized theme for two weeks, I've been using Ubuntu Studio for about two hours. Number one problem with the two themes I've used is the lack of contrast in icons, and especially text. Number two problem is that a lot of contrast between the window (white web pages, etc) and the chrome around the window or on adjacent windows makes it difficult to re-focus your eyes when switching tasks or applications. Number three problem is that some programs make poor assumptions about the background colors of some of the widgets. For example, the url drop-down list in firefox or the auto-complete dropdowns that show up below firefox's form fields. These appear to be black text on dark-dark grey and are nearly unreadable. These things will need to be addressed with care. That being said: * The transparency of inactive windows in the ubuntu studio theme is beautiful. I'm personally getting tired of glossyness, but the ubuntu studio theme's dark gloss could support transparency even on the active window. * The Orange and grey theme I've been using has turned a lot of heads. Like the Apple doc, it's long-term usability is questionable (since the lighter grey affords less contrast) but it sure does attract eyeballs. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] using a dark theme
Another problem: try to play Mines with a dark theme. It's nearly impossible... T. On Nov 15, 2007 5:59 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often wish we could have two colourings for controls. One dark one for controls out of focus and light colours for the active window. There is a compiz plugin can fake this but actual correct colouring would be better. For example using the ADD Helper plugin I currently have non-focused windows darkened 10%, and de-saturated 50%. tonic On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:28 -0600, Matthew Nuzum wrote: I've been experimenting with using dark themes. I've tried the Ubuntu Studio theme, which looks very shiny, and I've tried a customized theme which looks like this: http://code.bearfruit.org/~matt/MattsDesktop.jpg I used my customized theme for two weeks, I've been using Ubuntu Studio for about two hours. Number one problem with the two themes I've used is the lack of contrast in icons, and especially text. Number two problem is that a lot of contrast between the window (white web pages, etc) and the chrome around the window or on adjacent windows makes it difficult to re-focus your eyes when switching tasks or applications. Number three problem is that some programs make poor assumptions about the background colors of some of the widgets. For example, the url drop-down list in firefox or the auto-complete dropdowns that show up below firefox's form fields. These appear to be black text on dark-dark grey and are nearly unreadable. These things will need to be addressed with care. That being said: * The transparency of inactive windows in the ubuntu studio theme is beautiful. I'm personally getting tired of glossyness, but the ubuntu studio theme's dark gloss could support transparency even on the active window. * The Orange and grey theme I've been using has turned a lot of heads. Like the Apple doc, it's long-term usability is questionable (since the lighter grey affords less contrast) but it sure does attract eyeballs. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DarkIce Theme
Really, really, REALLY beautiful!! I think that this and Neil Patel are the best ones... On Nov 16, 2007 6:28 PM, xl cheese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharp looking theme. I really like the subtle gradient line between the top metacity title and the menubar. Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:18:30 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] DarkIce Theme Steph wrote: I just found an intersting theme on Gnome-Look.org : it's called DarkIce. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dark+Ice?content=69886 What I really like in this theme is the top border of windows and mixing it to Ubuntu colors or Human theme could produce something great I think. I'm attaching a screenshot (hope it will work), so you can all tell me what do you think about it. Cheers, Steph. PS : My desktop is not really the default one :), so you will just be able to see how windows look, because my gnome panels are gone... That's damn creative man!!! e -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Re : Wallpapers and Tonic's Theme
yeah, I agree with kwii about the problems that photos might bring to the desktop, I've experienced some those, but with some expertise and with the talents that we have here we could overcome that... T. On Nov 15, 2007 6:44 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About the buttons on the window decoration. At the moment the prelighting doesn't include a button frame. I think adding the frame for mouse over will solve your problem as the click target is still the standard metacity size even though the symbol is small. It would be nice if Ubuntu added a new photo series for the wallpapers. The space ones are good :) but something different would be nice. Perhaps Saharan stills would work, or some other theme, human living? tonic On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 18:41 +0100, Steph wrote: I personnally don't like Tonic's theme, first because I'm actually using the same (or nearly) Emerald theme, and closing a windows is quite stressing after a while, the buttons being that small. Second, I don't really like the colors mix. I don't mean it's really bad, but I don't see it as the default theme. Concerning photos as wallpapers, I do think it's a great idea. And I must admit that's the best point so far I remember of Windows Vista. Cheers, Steph. On Nov 14, 2007 6:12 PM, tonic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a play around with segphaults mostly murrina theme. Black, burnt orange, peach and cream. http://picasaweb.google.com/ghatanothoa/Creative/photo#5132837059367790802 tonic -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- http://jozmak.blogspot.com/ -- Message transféré -- From: Tiago Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:05:25 -0300 Subject: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper Hey, Why doesn't we include some nice photos among the wallpapers included in Hardy? I've noticed that the included wallpapers are always curve designs or something that can be done with Gimp/Photoshop..Is there some problem with photos? I think that maybe there exist some some excellent photographers here, and so, why dismiss that talent in the team? Just a thougth.. Cheers! T. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Wallpaper
Hey, Why doesn't we include some nice photos among the wallpapers included in Hardy? I've noticed that the included wallpapers are always curve designs or something that can be done with Gimp/Photoshop..Is there some problem with photos? I think that maybe there exist some some excellent photographers here, and so, why dismiss that talent in the team? Just a thougth.. Cheers! T. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Fonts
Are fonts within our scope? Can we change it? Will we change it? I'm wondering why we are not discussing it.. Cheers! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme
Hey, but didn't UDS chose Tango guidelines? If this still can change, what does that means (UDS = Tango)? Cheers, T. On Nov 7, 2007 4:37 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 07/11/2007, Can K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think of this icon set: http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/759 It contains only a few, but i really like the folder icon. (sorry if i have sent two mails, but i'm a bit confused by mailing lists) That's even worse than the current icon set! I've a question to all of us: Is Ubuntu bound to the Tango guidelines? No From my point of view, they're quite unprogressive for a modern Desktop OS. Tango icons always look too much comic-like and childish (in fact, this is a good criterion for Tango to be the default look of Edubuntu). Can't we just release from the Tango dogmas and create something different and new (but yet regocnizable as Ubuntu of course)? No. Not just. It is a *huge* undertaking creating an icon set from scratch (atleast if you want more or less full coverage). I don't think this will be possible if we still stick to Tango! Or will there be no discussion about this topic...? Are we not discussing it? This is not an argument ;-P Cheers, Mikkel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Hardy theme
I could not agree more. I really don't know why Ubuntu have this childish comic look with default human theme if it self-proclaims to be a modern alternative to Mac OS X or Microsoft's Vista. Did somebody ever look at the Mac OS X icons?! Ubuntu is really well established in solid kernel foundations, is rock stable, it has many features that put it well in front of these other two, but final users, simple users, as someone have said, want some eye candy too. They see this as a signal of a really modern OS. And honestly, that's not what Ubuntu brings by default. Simple users don't want to know details about App Armor...they can't see it! They want a beautiful (and functional) OS! Well, you can say that with a few clicks you can change the entire look of Ubuntu, and that is entirely true, but hey, the first impression is what counts, and when they put the live CD and see the look.. I really think that sometimes all the Ubuntu team (not only us!) thinks that Ubuntu is replacing Windows XP in old machines that don't run Vista, and so a XP look is enough..Our main enemy is not XP: is the modern look that Leopard and Vista brought to new OS's, and that is what final users see as a modern OS. []'s Tiago Souza On Nov 3, 2007 3:09 PM, Can K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever GTK engine Hardy will use, the design community should focus on a new, modern theme. In contrast to Vista's or OS X's theme, the Human theme is in an inferior position. Once the new color palette is found (am I right that it's going to be black/orange?), we have to work on new buttons, new checkboxes, new menu entrys, and so on. The current theme looks quite boring and bland from my point of view. We should put in more depth with gradients, more gloss and choose other corners. Another thing I have to criticize is that the new icon theme will still follow the Tango dogmas. In comparison to the KDE4 Oxygen icon set for example, I expect any Tango style icon theme to be comic-like and too much child-friendly. Tango style icons fit quite well to Edubuntu, but not to Ubuntu which claims to be a modern alternative to Windows and OS X. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art