Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-19 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

Also, i confirm that the desktop wallpaper has a dark zone at top left
corner which is very strange looking. The new GDM does not have this and
it's fine !

Do you plan to adjust the desktop wallpaper.

I'm so awaiting the new session splash :D

Do you plan Gimp, OpenOffice, TSClient, Gaim and other artwork ?

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-19 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hey guys !!!

The new GDM theme is so nice ! You rock guy ! :D Wahoo !! I've never
been so crazy about Ubuntu artwork !

Just at tips : the desktop wallpaper has a very nice sharpness in middle
of all the smoothness. Whereas GDM theme background is completely
smooth. You may add some kind of similar sharpness. Not the same.

Do you plan to add a face browser enable version ? I can do that for you
if you want.

Keep up the good work. Feisty will be so Dapper !

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 14:31:54 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why use 1365x768 ? I never saw such screen. Shouldn't you use 1280x800 ?
>
> Étienne.

I assume that this resolution was included as a mistake (ie it was the pic 
used to make the 1024x768 scaled version). I wasn't sure so I went ahead and 
included it.

I think that we should include pics for a few other resolutions/aspect ratios 
though (we'll probably never get them all, but it would be a good start).

I guess making a list of candidates would be the way to start here.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-14 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

Why use 1365x768 ? I never saw such screen. Shouldn't you use 1280x800 ?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-14 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

In fact, the weight is fine. But the upslash is stretched horizontally
on my wide screen laptop, so i was a bit too bold :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-14 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi,

On Wednesday 14 February 2007 11:11:19 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> booting this morning, i found the logo and the 'ubuntu' fuzzy not
> consistent. Can you try using the same white fuzzy around ubuntu and the
> logo ? Also, decreasing the sharpness of the white might help (remember
> the background is black, the contrast is high).
>
> Étienne.

In the meantime, I've uploaded another version with a different, more 3D-ish 
circle-of-friends part which has no fuzziness.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-14 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

booting this morning, i found the logo and the 'ubuntu' fuzzy not
consistent. Can you try using the same white fuzzy around ubuntu and the
logo ? Also, decreasing the sharpness of the white might help (remember
the background is black, the contrast is high).

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-13 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hey man, the 0.11 release is just fine ! The fonts are a bit too bold
for my taste. But colors, gradient, gloss and progress bar are perfect !

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-13 Thread Alex Jones
The new splash progress bar is nice, much better with the reflective
black background than the grey one!

One problem though, sometimes you notice it flickers when it is
updating. I guess it's not an artwork problem but more a usplash
problem, but I thought I'd bring it up anyway.

Good job!

On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 17:01 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 14:41:43 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I found a bug in usplash-theme-ubuntu 0.9 : the red circle is in a
> > different tone than the red curve. You may forgot to redish the
> > circle :)
> >
> 
> Yes, I saw that today. I've changed things twice since then. Hopefully the 
> last change will make it on the next Herd. If not, close your eyes the first 
> time it boots and then update to the newest version ASAP :-)
> 
> > Also, i'm worrying about logo consistency. There is almost 5 variant of
> > the logo :
> >
> >   * The gfxboot one
> >   * The usplash one
> >   * The gdm one
> >   * The session splash one
> >   * The main menu one
> >
> > We must definetly make all this logo consistent. What can you do ?
> >
> 
> Well, everything except the gfxboot should not be a problem. Since the 
> gfxboot 
> only uses 16 colors we are so limited that it is simply impossible to use the 
> exact same pic. We either need to go grey-scale or use a simple (non 3D) logo 
> for this. I do not think it would be good to try to make a different 3D 
> version to work with 16 colors as it would look too different to the rest of 
> them.
> 
> > Also, i really like the new wallpaper. It is so smooth, nice different.
> > I event suggest to to touch the session splash to include new logo from
> > usplash and smoothness of wallpaper.
> >
> 
> I wanted to start working on the session splash this week and intended to use 
> parts of the wallpaper for this.
> 
> > The same goes for gdm screen. I can help for gdm theme. I imagine a
> > background for gdm that use strictly the same tones than wallpaper, but
> > with a gradient adapted to the "content" of the gdm login (centered
> > field, etc.). Do you get it ? :)
> >
> 
> Exactly! Man, we think alike :-)
> 
> > Keep up the good work !
> > Étienne.
> 
> Thanks, I'll try :-)
> 
> Ken
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-13 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 14:41:43 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I found a bug in usplash-theme-ubuntu 0.9 : the red circle is in a
> different tone than the red curve. You may forgot to redish the
> circle :)
>

Yes, I saw that today. I've changed things twice since then. Hopefully the 
last change will make it on the next Herd. If not, close your eyes the first 
time it boots and then update to the newest version ASAP :-)

> Also, i'm worrying about logo consistency. There is almost 5 variant of
> the logo :
>
>   * The gfxboot one
>   * The usplash one
>   * The gdm one
>   * The session splash one
>   * The main menu one
>
> We must definetly make all this logo consistent. What can you do ?
>

Well, everything except the gfxboot should not be a problem. Since the gfxboot 
only uses 16 colors we are so limited that it is simply impossible to use the 
exact same pic. We either need to go grey-scale or use a simple (non 3D) logo 
for this. I do not think it would be good to try to make a different 3D 
version to work with 16 colors as it would look too different to the rest of 
them.

> Also, i really like the new wallpaper. It is so smooth, nice different.
> I event suggest to to touch the session splash to include new logo from
> usplash and smoothness of wallpaper.
>

I wanted to start working on the session splash this week and intended to use 
parts of the wallpaper for this.

> The same goes for gdm screen. I can help for gdm theme. I imagine a
> background for gdm that use strictly the same tones than wallpaper, but
> with a gradient adapted to the "content" of the gdm login (centered
> field, etc.). Do you get it ? :)
>

Exactly! Man, we think alike :-)

> Keep up the good work !
> Étienne.

Thanks, I'll try :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-13 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

I will especially be glad to help you on figure browser enable gdm
theme :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-13 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

I found a bug in usplash-theme-ubuntu 0.9 : the red circle is in a
different tone than the red curve. You may forgot to redish the
circle :)

Also, i'm worrying about logo consistency. There is almost 5 variant of
the logo :

  * The gfxboot one
  * The usplash one
  * The gdm one
  * The session splash one
  * The main menu one

We must definetly make all this logo consistent. What can you do ?

Also, i really like the new wallpaper. It is so smooth, nice different.
I event suggest to to touch the session splash to include new logo from
usplash and smoothness of wallpaper.

The same goes for gdm screen. I can help for gdm theme. I imagine a
background for gdm that use strictly the same tones than wallpaper, but
with a gradient adapted to the "content" of the gdm login (centered
field, etc.). Do you get it ? :)

Keep up the good work !
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Emir Beganović
I like the usplash1.png ;)





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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 12 February 2007 18:55:51 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Hehe, too late, I already did it!
>
> ;)
>
> > http://sinecera.de/usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.9.tar.gz
>
> This one is very nice :)
>
> Thank you
> Étienne.

w00t!!! thanks man, great to hear that you like it. Your comments were very 
helpful, I really appreciate them :-)

Bye,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

> Hehe, too late, I already did it!

;)

> http://sinecera.de/usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.9.tar.gz

This one is very nice :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 12 February 2007 17:53:39 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I prefer the upslash_1.png variant.
>
> Can you round progress bar corners ?
>
> Étienne.

Hehe, too late, I already did it! I noticed that it after the color reduction 
the corners were not rounded and fixed them. The package should appear 
sometime soon. In case you want to see the pics, here it is:

http://sinecera.de/usplash-theme-ubuntu_0.9.tar.gz

Have fun!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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David Prieto wrote:
> Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
> either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
> proportions?
> 

Incorrect.

Monitors fall into a vast array of aspect ratio and resolutions.

Namely, 16:10 and 4:5.  That said, you factor in multi-head displays,
SVIDEO/HDTV out, etc., and the rest of situations and you quickly end up
in a very complicated situation.

Sincerely,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

I prefer the upslash_1.png variant.

Can you round progress bar corners ?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Matt Richards
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David Prieto wrote:
> On lun, 2007-02-12 at 16:43 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
>> On Monday 12 February 2007 13:51:41 you wrote:
>>> On lun, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the
 issues that Etienne mentioned.

 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
 http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png

 What do you think?
>>> Might not be entirely related, but is there no way for widescreen
>>> monitors to show the usplash properly instead of stretched out?
>> There is a pic for certain resolutions included, but to fit all monitor 
>> sizes 
>> we would have to include lots of pics which is simply not possible.
>>
>> Ken
> 
> Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
> either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
> proportions?

most of the stuff that I have is 1280x1024.

> 
> I would think that adding those would suffice, but I could be entirely
> wrong of course.
> 
> 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread David Prieto
On lun, 2007-02-12 at 16:43 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Monday 12 February 2007 13:51:41 you wrote:
> > On lun, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the
> > > issues that Etienne mentioned.
> > >
> > > http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
> > > http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
> > > http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > Might not be entirely related, but is there no way for widescreen
> > monitors to show the usplash properly instead of stretched out?
> 
> There is a pic for certain resolutions included, but to fit all monitor sizes 
> we would have to include lots of pics which is simply not possible.
> 
> Ken

Er... I don't know much about monitor sized, but are not most monitors
either 1024x768 or 1280x800, or some other size with the same
proportions?

I would think that adding those would suffice, but I could be entirely
wrong of course.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Monday 12 February 2007 13:43:18 Toby Smithe wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the
> > issues that Etienne mentioned.
> >
> > http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
> > http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
> > http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> Hmm. I don't know if it's just me but the status bar and the logo(text)
> don't seem aligned. Apart from that, I think they're looking good.

They get cut out of that pic, so the placement is not important. I just wanted 
to show how I changed the bg color of the progess bar.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Toby Smithe
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 13:38 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the 
> issues that Etienne mentioned.
> 
> http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
> http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
> http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png
> 
> What do you think?

Hmm. I don't know if it's just me but the status bar and the logo(text)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-12 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all,

I'm working on the usplash...here are 3 variants that I think address the 
issues that Etienne mentioned.

http://sinecera.de/usplash_1.png
http://sinecera.de/usplash_1a.png
http://sinecera.de/usplash_1b.png

What do you think?

Bye,
Ken

On Sunday 11 February 2007 12:29:04 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here are some through about usplash artwork :
>
>   * although increase font weight, font is a bit too bold imo.
>   * progress bar are gray in gtk because app are grey, but since
> usplash is black, it would be nice to apply the progressbar tile
> to black. I don't know if i'm clear
>   * new logo gradient are nice, but red color should be more red,
> this kind of pink/violet does not fit ubuntu colors, imo
>
> Ken, it's all for you :). Please comment
>
> Étienne.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-11 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

> Great to hear that you like it. I'll still be improving on it, trying to get 
> the balance perfect and the smoothness correct.

One more comment about wallpaper : the "dark" point at top left corner
is a bit too dark. Or a bit too grey. If you increase saturation and
luminosity you should get it. Just a through :)

Keep up the good work.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-11 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi Etienne,

On Sunday 11 February 2007 12:29:04 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here are some through about usplash artwork :
>
>   * although increase font weight, font is a bit too bold imo.

Agreed. sabdfl actually made the same comment. Look for this to change in the 
next version(s).

>   * progress bar are gray in gtk because app are grey, but since
> usplash is black, it would be nice to apply the progressbar tile
> to black. I don't know if i'm clear

Good idea. I was a bit worried that the almost white background would be too 
contrasty on the black background as well but thought it was worth a try.

>   * new logo gradient are nice, but red color should be more red,
> this kind of pink/violet does not fit ubuntu colors, imo
>

Agreed (see my other mail).

> Ken, it's all for you :). Please comment
>
> Étienne.

Thanks again for the great ideas, they are really helpful.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-11 Thread Kenneth Wimer
Hi all,

Some of you might know me from the work I've done in the past on Kubuntu. This 
time around I'll be working on Ubuntu as well.

Because of the time factor (I've only been at this a couple of weeks now) I 
hope to create a more coherent look that is based off the Edgy artwork. One 
important factor is that the artwork be done within a strict time schedule.

If you look at the feisty release schedule you'll see that I've added dates 
for artwork inclusion. This first round is the initial inclusion, so the 
artwork I've done shows the first stage of the process. The artwork will 
change but not drastically...we'll keep working in this direction, making 
things better and better.

So, nothing is final until the last inclusion dates (and I guess that even 
then certain small parts can/will still be worked on, depending on the will 
of those higher up).

On Saturday 10 February 2007 23:29:00 Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some of you may saw the new feisty artwork arriving. This artwork is not
> stamped "alpha". So, let's discuss about it :).
>

Although the artwork doesn't say alpha, it is alpha :-) I am all for 
discussing it as long as the conversation stays sane, worthwhile and 
constructive. I am working closely with sabdfl and others on this, so certain 
aspects are given and certain things can change.

> As of today, only usplash and gnome wallpaper has been updated.
>
> First, i really like the new wallpaper. Even if i find it too pinky, i
> really love the smoothness of the picture. In contrary to dapper
> wallpaper, this one does not looks like a brown ulgy clone of Mac OS X
> wallpaper suite. So sweet :).
>

Great to hear that you like it. I'll still be improving on it, trying to get 
the balance perfect and the smoothness correct.

> About upslash. I do not like the new logo. the red is too pinky :|. And
> since i do not like Gtk Human progress bar, i don't like it on usplash.
> To be constructive, here are the point i dislike in this progressbar :
>

I've tried to take the ideas from Edgy and go from there. Who's logo is 
awesome and this represents my attempts at furthering that. 

I used the official logo colors this time, just to see how they worked. 
Apparently I will need to go back to using the darker colors Who used in 
Edgy. Troy also mentioned that the red is too pinkish so you are not alone in 
that opinion.

The progress bar changes were an attempt to create a consistent progress bar 
from start to finish (ie it looks like the progress bar used on the desktop). 
I think that this is good idea but perhaps we need to tweak things a bit to 
make the artwork fit the functionality.

>       * the tiny vertical seperators makes sense only for discret
>         progress bar (with fixed step). It provide an idea of "unit" of
>         progression and user wait the progress bar to push by one
>         "square".
>       * The sharp orange does fit neither title brown nor wallpaper
>         pink. Think consistent.
>       * Also progress bar orange have huge accessibility issues (see bug
>         about that). Since december, i lost my glasses i have to wait
>         'til march. It's a good test of accessibility in Ubuntu. Beryl
>         helps. font-properties allows me to increase dpi up to 118 !
>         Even at such size, the text is hard to read on progress bar.
>         Please update. Accessibility matters.
>
> Also, who made this artwork ? Is ubuntu-art only a place to comment new
> artwork ;) ? It feel like we forgot to plan community themes :|
>

I've been working with dholbach to improve upon the process of creating 
community themes although due to the short amount of time left I guess more 
work will go into this after the release. I encourage anyone who wants to 
create a community theme to do so - we'll support you any way we can.

> Étienne.

Thanks for the great comments Etienne.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-11 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi,

Here are some through about usplash artwork :

  * although increase font weight, font is a bit too bold imo.
  * progress bar are gray in gtk because app are grey, but since
usplash is black, it would be nice to apply the progressbar tile
to black. I don't know if i'm clear
  * new logo gradient are nice, but red color should be more red,
this kind of pink/violet does not fit ubuntu colors, imo

Ken, it's all for you :). Please comment

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-10 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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Étienne Bersac wrote:
> Also, who made this artwork ? Is ubuntu-art only a place to comment new
> artwork  ;)  ? It feel like we forgot to plan community themes :|
>

kwwii -- Ken, created the new art.

You should know by now Et, don't expect planning.   ;)

Sincerely,
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[ubuntu-art] Incoming Feisty art

2007-02-10 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hi all,

Some of you may saw the new feisty artwork arriving. This artwork is not
stamped "alpha". So, let's discuss about it :).

As of today, only usplash and gnome wallpaper has been updated.

First, i really like the new wallpaper. Even if i find it too pinky, i
really love the smoothness of the picture. In contrary to dapper
wallpaper, this one does not looks like a brown ulgy clone of Mac OS X
wallpaper suite. So sweet :).

About upslash. I do not like the new logo. the red is too pinky :|. And
since i do not like Gtk Human progress bar, i don't like it on usplash.
To be constructive, here are the point i dislike in this progressbar :

  * the tiny vertical seperators makes sense only for discret
progress bar (with fixed step). It provide an idea of "unit" of
progression and user wait the progress bar to push by one
"square".
  * The sharp orange does fit neither title brown nor wallpaper
pink. Think consistent.
  * Also progress bar orange have huge accessibility issues (see bug
about that). Since december, i lost my glasses i have to wait
'til march. It's a good test of accessibility in Ubuntu. Beryl
helps. font-properties allows me to increase dpi up to 118 !
Even at such size, the text is hard to read on progress bar.
Please update. Accessibility matters.

Also, who made this artwork ? Is ubuntu-art only a place to comment new
artwork ;) ? It feel like we forgot to plan community themes :|

Étienne.


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