Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 01:17 +0300, Jimmy Angelakos wrote: Salane Ashcraft wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Jimmy Angelakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please allow me to speak frankly: I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font. Would you make a section in the Intrepid Ibex Fonts- Art Team wiki page then? Please provide a picture of what you are suggesting and some reasoning. Constructive criticism is important. Done :D https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Font_-_Art_Team Jimmy Your Droid screenshot is off. Try typing sudo fc-cache -v to update your font cache, then try again (and logoff and log on again or something). It seems the desktop is using DejaVu Sans as fallback font. I'll try to post another screenshot at the wiki to show how Droid Sans looks on my computer. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Kido Mariano wrote: Your Droid screenshot is off. Try typing sudo fc-cache -v to update your font cache, then try again (and logoff and log on again or something). It seems the desktop is using DejaVu Sans as fallback font. I'll try to post another screenshot at the wiki to show how Droid Sans looks on my computer. Fixed. Thank you for the tip. Needless to say new users should not have to do this for Droid to look ok on their screens. Anyway the wiki has been updated. Jimmy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:25 +0300, Jimmy Angelakos wrote: Fixed. Thank you for the tip. Needless to say new users should not have to do this for Droid to look ok on their screens. No problem. :) I think it's GNOME not being able to auto-update the font cache, not a problem with the Droid font. Anyway the wiki has been updated. Jimmy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Beautiful. Guess that's that. Onward and whatnot... On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its very good- I actually replaced all of my fonts in windows, mac, and desktopbsd with them. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh good. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried both out, and Droid was much much better. Salane On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops! Flubbed the send button... Then it went: No! Lib Sans is wrong! We should use a Humanist styled font! Then back to: Droid! Droid is the one! That was a full circle. And again, I don't understand the why's. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gotta say...Droid is awfully similar to Liberation...I don't mind. But I don't have any clue where this is going. If you think one is not a good system font then how do you get to the other being ZOMG awesome? What is the reason for wanting to use it, other than it having Google Android ties and being something different? As far as I can tell it went: Yes! Liberation Sans is good! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Simone de Beauvoir - To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job. -- Rita Rudner - When I eventually met Mr. Right I had no idea that his first name was Always. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Paul Lynde - I sang in the choir for years, even though my family belonged to another church. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Paul Lynde - I sang in the choir for years, even though my family belonged to another church. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 23:21 -0400, Cory K. wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html About this one... I'd agree with the first point. :] However, your UI font won't appear as large paragraphs all the time. As phrases, the font looks nice. IMO it's better than what we have now. The rest of the points aren't quite related to Droid Sans being the UI font. Droid Serif shouldn't be our main *print* serif font since it's meant for screen use, too. It's quite easier to read, though, if that matters. (I think Liberation Serif would be nice for this...) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
According to a comment on this blog posthttp://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/16/droid-sans-mono-a-sw.html#comment-83140, the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or not is beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing restrictions. Smartboy On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Kido Mariano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 23:21 -0400, Cory K. wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html About this one... I'd agree with the first point. :] However, your UI font won't appear as large paragraphs all the time. As phrases, the font looks nice. IMO it's better than what we have now. The rest of the points aren't quite related to Droid Sans being the UI font. Droid Serif shouldn't be our main *print* serif font since it's meant for screen use, too. It's quite easier to read, though, if that matters. (I think Liberation Serif would be nice for this...) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
AA Boy wrote: According to a comment on this blog post http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/16/droid-sans-mono-a-sw.html#comment-83140, the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or not is beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing restrictions. Smartboy *PLEASE* everyone stop top-posting. We've been over this time and time and time and time again. The license has been addressed already further back in this font chat. (though spread across a couple of threads) They are gonna be under a license that will free them up to use at some point apparently. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released as open source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant use them. Salane How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them to make sure. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AA Boy wrote: According to a comment on this blog post http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/16/droid-sans-mono-a-sw.html#comment-83140 , the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or not is beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing restrictions. Smartboy *PLEASE* everyone stop top-posting. We've been over this time and time and time and time again. The license has been addressed already further back in this font chat. (though spread across a couple of threads) They are gonna be under a license that will free them up to use at some point apparently. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:25:03 Salane Ashcraft wrote: Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released as open source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant use them. Salane How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them to make sure. Please include your comments to an email after the part that you are refering to so that people can follow the discussion. ie, do not top-post :-) Thanks, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
I figured out how to fix it. Thanks for letting me know! Salane On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Kenneth Wimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:25:03 Salane Ashcraft wrote: Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released as open source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant use them. Salane How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them to make sure. Please include your comments to an email after the part that you are refering to so that people can follow the discussion. ie, do not top-post :-) Thanks, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Please allow me to speak frankly: I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font. Deja Vu Sans is a beautiful font, especially the Condensed version I use as my UI font. It supports many languages and looks quite modern without being very blocky as Troy calls it. Droid has extreme usability problems on my machine here. It looks very condensed at the UI Font selection window, even more so than DejaVuSansCondensed. However when I select it, it appears as a very plain-looking uncondensed font (even plainer than FreeSans). When I fire up Firefox, I get the extremely condensed version again, at the same time when it looks uncondensed on my desktop. What happened to the discussion about D.V.S.C. being the default font and why are we considering a font that *might* be open source one day? Cheers, Jimmy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Jimmy Angelakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please allow me to speak frankly: I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font. Deja Vu Sans is a beautiful font, especially the Condensed version I use as my UI font. It supports many languages and looks quite modern without being very blocky as Troy calls it. Droid has extreme usability problems on my machine here. It looks very condensed at the UI Font selection window, even more so than DejaVuSansCondensed. However when I select it, it appears as a very plain-looking uncondensed font (even plainer than FreeSans). When I fire up Firefox, I get the extremely condensed version again, at the same time when it looks uncondensed on my desktop. What happened to the discussion about D.V.S.C. being the default font and why are we considering a font that *might* be open source one day? Cheers, Jimmy Would you make a section in the Intrepid Ibex Fonts- Art Team wiki page then? Please provide a picture of what you are suggesting and some reasoning. Constructive criticism is important. -- Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Salane Ashcraft wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Jimmy Angelakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please allow me to speak frankly: I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font. Would you make a section in the Intrepid Ibex Fonts- Art Team wiki page then? Please provide a picture of what you are suggesting and some reasoning. Constructive criticism is important. Done :D https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Font_-_Art_Team Jimmy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
В 16:17 +0200 на 05.07.2008 (сб), Mario Viviani написа: Hi there! For sure Droid is the best font out there for Ubuntu. It is clean, professional, so good-looking. If we can have it on Open Source, I think Ubuntu have to use Droid Fonts as default font.. Cheers Mario Il giorno ven, 04/07/2008 alle 14.00 -0400, Salane Ashcraft ha scritto: Hey guys- If everything works out with licensing, I say that we should make the Droid fonts default for all fonts system wide. They look awesome. I have replaced fonts system wide, including Firefox with Droid, and web pages look better, things are more readable, and actually, I think it looks better than the fonts on OS X. Hopefully this goes well. Salane I think that we should definitely use this fonts because they will make the user feel the difference between old and new and because they save more space on the screen and look more organised. Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that we should definitely use this fonts because they will make the user feel the difference between old and new and because they save more space on the screen and look more organised. Ubuntu uses 10pt fonts by default, whereas Windows uses 9pt, for example. Usually the first change I make is to reduce the system font sizes (and hinting), to conserve more screen space (as my laptop is limited to 1024x768, and GNOME seems to have a lot of widget whitespace). Having the default font size at 9pt would be an excellent change, with new or old fonts. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Conn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that we should definitely use this fonts because they will make the user feel the difference between old and new and because they save more space on the screen and look more organised. Ubuntu uses 10pt fonts by default, whereas Windows uses 9pt, for example. Usually the first change I make is to reduce the system font sizes (and hinting), to conserve more screen space (as my laptop is limited to 1024x768, and GNOME seems to have a lot of widget whitespace). Having the default font size at 9pt would be an excellent change, with new or old fonts. I second this. I have a 19 inch lcd with a 1280x1024 resolution. Though I have enough space available on my desktop, shifting to a 9pt font size is the first thing I do ( I used to have liberation sans and have recently shifted to droid sans ). Perhaps someone with more experience in usability than me can shed more light on this. May be we can put in a small poll on ubuntu forums and find out the kind of font sizes people use. If majority of users shift to 9pt fonts, may be we can use that as default. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Honestly, I don't understand why everyone loves small fonts. (Especially designers, as it seems.) When reading e.g. articles in firefox, the first I do is hit Ctrl+Num_Plus several times to increase all font sizes. I have good eyes, no glasses, but it's just much more comfortable to read larger fonts. In daily work, when I need to reach for an application's menu, I don't want to concentrate too much, either. Therefore, using smaller fonts for the sake of saving some disk space might degrade the ubuntu user experience badly. Regards, Klaus -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Klaus Bitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I don't understand why everyone loves small fonts. (Especially designers, as it seems.) I'm no designer, I'm a user. This has nothing to do with aesthetics. If you have a monitor that offers high resolutions, or you don't have a lot of exposure to Windows, then you probably don't realize how much larger fonts can seem in Ubuntu (and GNOME doesn't help, as there is a lot of padding in most themes). When reading e.g. articles in firefox, the first I do is hit Ctrl+Num_Plus several times to increase all font sizes. I have good eyes, no glasses, but it's just much more comfortable to read larger fonts. As far as I know, changing GNOME's default font sizes will only affect Firefox's interface (dialogs, toolbars, options, etc) - websites won't be affected. You probably need to reduce your screen's resolution or font DPI. In daily work, when I need to reach for an application's menu, I don't want to concentrate too much, either. Therefore, using smaller fonts for the sake of saving some disk space might degrade the ubuntu user experience badly. What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with conserving disk space. We're talking about having a sane default font size to conserve screen real-estate (very important if your monitor can't go beyond 1024x768, which is not as rare as you may imagine, even in 2008). I also noticed that fonts seem to become even more enlarged when using slight hinting. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
In daily work, when I need to reach for an application's menu, I don't want to concentrate too much, either. Therefore, using smaller fonts for the sake of saving some disk space might degrade the ubuntu user experience badly. What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with conserving disk space. Yes, sorry. Of course I meant _screen_ space! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Ooops! Flubbed the send button... Then it went: No! Lib Sans is wrong! We should use a Humanist styled font! Then back to: Droid! Droid is the one! That was a full circle. And again, I don't understand the why's. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gotta say...Droid is awfully similar to Liberation...I don't mind. But I don't have any clue where this is going. If you think one is not a good system font then how do you get to the other being ZOMG awesome? What is the reason for wanting to use it, other than it having Google Android ties and being something different? As far as I can tell it went: Yes! Liberation Sans is good! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Simone de Beauvoir - To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job. -- Rita Rudner - When I eventually met Mr. Right I had no idea that his first name was Always. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
I tried both out, and Droid was much much better. Salane On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops! Flubbed the send button... Then it went: No! Lib Sans is wrong! We should use a Humanist styled font! Then back to: Droid! Droid is the one! That was a full circle. And again, I don't understand the why's. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gotta say...Droid is awfully similar to Liberation...I don't mind. But I don't have any clue where this is going. If you think one is not a good system font then how do you get to the other being ZOMG awesome? What is the reason for wanting to use it, other than it having Google Android ties and being something different? As far as I can tell it went: Yes! Liberation Sans is good! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Simone de Beauvoir - To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job. -- Rita Rudner - When I eventually met Mr. Right I had no idea that his first name was Always. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Oh good. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried both out, and Droid was much much better. Salane On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops! Flubbed the send button... Then it went: No! Lib Sans is wrong! We should use a Humanist styled font! Then back to: Droid! Droid is the one! That was a full circle. And again, I don't understand the why's. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gotta say...Droid is awfully similar to Liberation...I don't mind. But I don't have any clue where this is going. If you think one is not a good system font then how do you get to the other being ZOMG awesome? What is the reason for wanting to use it, other than it having Google Android ties and being something different? As far as I can tell it went: Yes! Liberation Sans is good! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Simone de Beauvoir - To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job. -- Rita Rudner - When I eventually met Mr. Right I had no idea that his first name was Always. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Paul Lynde - I sang in the choir for years, even though my family belonged to another church. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts
Its very good- I actually replaced all of my fonts in windows, mac, and desktopbsd with them. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh good. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried both out, and Droid was much much better. Salane On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooops! Flubbed the send button... Then it went: No! Lib Sans is wrong! We should use a Humanist styled font! Then back to: Droid! Droid is the one! That was a full circle. And again, I don't understand the why's. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gotta say...Droid is awfully similar to Liberation...I don't mind. But I don't have any clue where this is going. If you think one is not a good system font then how do you get to the other being ZOMG awesome? What is the reason for wanting to use it, other than it having Google Android ties and being something different? As far as I can tell it went: Yes! Liberation Sans is good! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a detailed post about the Droid font. http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Simone de Beauvoir - To catch a husband is an art; to hold him is a job. -- Rita Rudner - When I eventually met Mr. Right I had no idea that his first name was Always. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- Paul Lynde - I sang in the choir for years, even though my family belonged to another church. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art