Re: Vmware on 64bit ubuntu

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 10:23 +1030, mike james wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 
 Can anyone tell me if its possible to run Vmware workstation on 64 bit
 Ubuntu using more than 4 gig of RAM?
 
 
 Sorry for the vagueness of the question, but Im doing some research
 for a friend who is currently a windows user but is considering 64
 Ubuntu so that he can get better RAM usage to setup a virtual test
 environment.

I would recommend virtualbox instead.  It is free software (as in
speech) and works well.  It works with more than 4G of RAM too.  As for
vmware workstation. I don't have any real vmware experience, I run
virtualbox on the desktop and KVM in server environments - and most of
my VMs run on servers.

Cheers

Dave



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Re: beta-live CD vs daily live CD

2009-03-16 Thread Dave Hall
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 14:46 +1100, Sebastian wrote:
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 I thought about this a bit and while I wanted to give my mum the
 latest bling of jaunty I honestly don't think she will care that much.
 
 So 8.10 it will be - at some stage she will need to upgrade to a new
 release... maybe to 9.10?

If you want to give her something solid and won't require upgrading so
regularly, throw hardy (8.04LTS) at her.  LTS releases are supported for
3 years and have longer release cycles.  Wait for the .1LTS release to
dodge the nasty bugs that seem to creep in at the end of an ubuntu
release cycle.

 I will make sure here home is on a separate partition and I set up
 some backup routine for her... maybe simply a dropbox 'mirror'.

Given what has happened recently with ma.gnolia and some blog platform,
I wouldn't trust cloud solutions as your only backup option.  If they go
under or stuff something up, she doesn't know about and then something
happens, she is left with nothing.  I would suggest having some
redundancy of providers if you wish to go down this road.

 Regarding the ISP, yes I'd agree that the free quota for the updates
 is very cool. But last time I checked Internode or iinet where either
 pricey to change to or not available where I live (the exchanges
 around me have all already the faster DSL only Narrabeen not...)

Internode have the largest number of ADSL2+ dslams of any ISP.  I don't
know about your mum's situation, but most of my family is more than
happy with 512/128 from internode for $40 per month.  I can't see that
being considered pricey when you look at what you get for your money.
With ISPs I have found it is a case of cheap, reliable, good customer
service - pick 2.

Cheers

Dave


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Re: beta-live CD vs daily live CD

2009-03-16 Thread Sebastian Spiess
On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 18:14 +1100, Dave Hall wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 14:46 +1100, Sebastian wrote:
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  I thought about this a bit and while I wanted to give my mum the
  latest bling of jaunty I honestly don't think she will care that much.
  
  So 8.10 it will be - at some stage she will need to upgrade to a new
  release... maybe to 9.10?
 
 If you want to give her something solid and won't require upgrading so
 regularly, throw hardy (8.04LTS) at her.  LTS releases are supported for
 3 years and have longer release cycles.  Wait for the .1LTS release to
 dodge the nasty bugs that seem to creep in at the end of an ubuntu
 release cycle.
 

Indeed, thats what I thought as well after I wrote the last post :-)

  I will make sure here home is on a separate partition and I set up
  some backup routine for her... maybe simply a dropbox 'mirror'.
 
 Given what has happened recently with ma.gnolia and some blog platform,
 I wouldn't trust cloud solutions as your only backup option.  If they go
 under or stuff something up, she doesn't know about and then something
 happens, she is left with nothing.  I would suggest having some
 redundancy of providers if you wish to go down this road.
 

I know that you should not rely on the free services as they can stop
their service any time without reason.

So I though I get her a (cheap) 4 gig usb dongle which will go on the
back of her computer. Then I set up sbackup which I quite like to backup
~ /etc and ? on a regular basis.

sbackup comes with automatic deletion of old backups and given the fact
that she wont store much music or pictures the backups could go back a
long time b4 they are deleted. On top of this I can still setup dropbox.

What do you think?

  Regarding the ISP, yes I'd agree that the free quota for the updates
  is very cool. But last time I checked Internode or iinet where either
  pricey to change to or not available where I live (the exchanges
  around me have all already the faster DSL only Narrabeen not...)
 
 Internode have the largest number of ADSL2+ dslams of any ISP.  I don't
 know about your mum's situation, but most of my family is more than
 happy with 512/128 from internode for $40 per month.  I can't see that
 being considered pricey when you look at what you get for your money.
 With ISPs I have found it is a case of cheap, reliable, good customer
 service - pick 2.
 

As replied to Barry I will look into this again. Last time I checked the
cost for me to switch was quite high

Cheers,

Seb

 Cheers
 
 Dave



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Re: Vmware on 64bit ubuntu

2009-03-16 Thread daniel sobey


--- On Mon, 16/3/09, mike james mike...@gmail.com wrote:

From: mike james mike...@gmail.com
Subject: Vmware on 64bit ubuntu
To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
Received: Monday, 16 March, 2009, 10:23 AM

Hi all,
Can anyone tell me if its possible to run Vmware workstation on 64 bit Ubuntu 
using more than 4 gig of RAM?
Sorry for the vagueness of the question, but Im doing some research for a 
friend who is currently a windows user but is considering 64 Ubuntu so that he 
can get better RAM usage to setup a virtual test environment.

Mike

---

Yes you can run a 64 bit os on a 64 bit vmware, you can run a 32 bit os on a 64 
bit vmware, you can run 64 bit os on a 32 bit os. I believe quemu, virtualbox, 
kvm, xen can also do this.

you can run a hugemem kernel to allow a 32 bit os to be able to use more than 
4gb. 

If you are going to build a test environment vmware is a reasonable option but 
there is competition. xen is backed by most of the big linux companies and is 
open source.

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Re: Vmware on 64bit ubuntu

2009-03-16 Thread mike james
Thank you all for your suggestions. They have been helpful. It was great to
know that this is possible, and I passed on your advice.
My friend has initially decided to try out the free (beer) version of
Vmware's ESXi server, because it looks easier to setup for a primarily
windows user, and apparently has the functionality required. I did pass on
your suggestions to try the open source equivalents, but he is familiar with
VMware and not a big fan of the command line. Im not keen to push the issue,
because I dont want to leave a bad taste for Ubuntu in the future if it
dosent work out.

I myself have tried VirtualBox and Xen with varying degrees of success. They
were both ok to setup for a Linux guest but much harder to configure for a
windows guest. Things have probably changed in the last 12 months though,
and Ill give it another go when I get some new hardware.

Thanks again,

Mike


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 --- On Mon, 16/3/09, mike james mike...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: mike james mike...@gmail.com
 Subject: Vmware on 64bit ubuntu
 To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
 Received: Monday, 16 March, 2009, 10:23 AM

 Hi all,
 Can anyone tell me if its possible to run Vmware workstation on 64 bit
 Ubuntu using more than 4 gig of RAM?
 Sorry for the vagueness of the question, but Im doing some research for a
 friend who is currently a windows user but is considering 64 Ubuntu so that
 he can get better RAM usage to setup a virtual test environment.

 Mike

 ---

 Yes you can run a 64 bit os on a 64 bit vmware, you can run a 32 bit os on
 a 64 bit vmware, you can run 64 bit os on a 32 bit os. I believe quemu,
 virtualbox, kvm, xen can also do this.

 you can run a hugemem kernel to allow a 32 bit os to be able to use more
 than 4gb.

 If you are going to build a test environment vmware is a reasonable option
 but there is competition. xen is backed by most of the big linux companies
 and is open source.

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ethernet Q

2009-03-16 Thread James Takac
Hi Guys

I had a motherboard blow on a computer a few weeks back and finally got the 
system rebuilt with a new mobo. However the ethernet connection is now seen 
as eth1 instead of eth0 and on various reboots ubuntu is not seeing it at 
all. I suspect it has something to do with the new assigment and so am 
wondering where I might look to edit things so as to edit out the old 
ethernet assignment since that adapter no longer exists and what do I need to 
watch out for if taking this road

Thx
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Re: ethernet Q

2009-03-16 Thread Vantrax
Did you rebuild from scratch off a CD? Or just tweak the install to work
with the new MB?

Typically if it works id just leave it alone and remove old entries from the
network manager.


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On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM, James Takac p3nndra...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys

 I had a motherboard blow on a computer a few weeks back and finally got the
 system rebuilt with a new mobo. However the ethernet connection is now seen
 as eth1 instead of eth0 and on various reboots ubuntu is not seeing it at
 all. I suspect it has something to do with the new assigment and so am
 wondering where I might look to edit things so as to edit out the old
 ethernet assignment since that adapter no longer exists and what do I need
 to
 watch out for if taking this road

 Thx
 James

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Re: ethernet Q

2009-03-16 Thread Junin Toiro
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, James Takac p3nndra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys

 I had a motherboard blow on a computer a few weeks back and finally got the
 system rebuilt with a new mobo. However the ethernet connection is now seen
 as eth1 instead of eth0 and on various reboots ubuntu is not seeing it at
 all. I suspect it has something to do with the new assigment and so am
 wondering where I might look to edit things so as to edit out the old
 ethernet assignment since that adapter no longer exists and what do I need to
 watch out for if taking this road

 Thx
 James

It's because the mac address has changed hence linux assigns it as a
new ethernet device, which it is. There is a way to reset this but I
can't for the life of me remember.

I stumbled upon it after moving a virtual machine and the same thing
happened because I used new device ids.

If I can manage to find the link I'll post it.


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Re: ethernet Q

2009-03-16 Thread James Takac
Hi Junin

On Tuesday 17 March 2009 12:53:04 Junin Toiro wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, James Takac p3nndra...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Guys
 
  I had a motherboard blow on a computer a few weeks back and finally got
  the system rebuilt with a new mobo. However the ethernet connection is
  now seen as eth1 instead of eth0 and on various reboots ubuntu is not
  seeing it at all. I suspect it has something to do with the new assigment
  and so am wondering where I might look to edit things so as to edit out
  the old ethernet assignment since that adapter no longer exists and what
  do I need to watch out for if taking this road
 
  Thx
  James

 It's because the mac address has changed hence linux assigns it as a
 new ethernet device, which it is. There is a way to reset this but I
 can't for the life of me remember.


I suspected that much at least and am glad to have confirmation of it. Just 
got and tried what you mean via an answer on another ubuntu forum

sudo rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
sudo reboot

That seems to have done the job and so I am keeping an eye out to see if the 
behaviour remains re not seeing the interface on certain reboots which would 
now suggest other issues. This has got the interface seen as eth0 again. Now 
I gotta go into firestarter again and tell it to go back to that one LOL

Thx
James

 I stumbled upon it after moving a virtual machine and the same thing
 happened because I used new device ids.

 If I can manage to find the link I'll post it.


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