Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 51, Issue 35
On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 23:37 +0100, Norm wrote: > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 08:31:28 +1000 > From: "Norm, VK3XCI" > Subject: Re: 701SD wireless > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <4bf466c0.7070...@aanet.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Morning all, > > here's where we're at. > Wireless card is a realtek RTL8187SE > Kernal driver in use is r8180 > Kernel module is rtl8187se > It sees all the wireless networks around me, 3 all together > My wireless is 64bit WEP shared key. (lowest common denominator) > I have installed the non-free package. > Tries to connect but fails with no error message. Are you typing in the WEP passphrase, or the WEP key? Most devices and operating systems can't accept a WEP password, only the key (that seemingly-meaningless string). Ubuntu is usually okay with accepting a WEP password, but maybe it has regressed in this regard. The other thing is, I have the regular RTL8187 and it works fine. Have you tried: sudo modprobe -r rtl8187se sudo modprobe rtl8187 Hopefully, if the chipsets are very similar, the device should come back up in a few seconds and work. You'd need to do this on every boot, or just add the rtl8187se driver to the blacklist and rtl8187 to the "always load" list. If those two commands above work, but you don't know how to blacklist modules, just e-mail me and I'll send back some instructions. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
[Two-Birds-One-Stone] Re: 3 Prepaid Dongles and Credit Card Payments
Prepaid 3 Dongles: My dongle is an E160G that was offered for prepaid last year, I believe it's still being offered. Works well. Credit card payments: Paypal can also process credit card payments even if the customer doesn't have a Paypal account. Have a look in the settings for your merchant account. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: media centre build
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 20:40 +0100, Hugh Do Nascimento wrote: > From: Hugo Do Nascimento > Subject: Re: media centre build > To: bryn mitchell > Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I also was thinking about building a media center with linux or buying a mac > mini. At the end, a friend showed me a WDTV. > It costs about U$100, runs linux inside and does not demand much energy. I > bought one and I am using it with an external USB HD. There are many similar devices. I have an Astone device; it has a couple of USB ports, plus an Ethernet port for streaming media from your computer (through Samba) and even the ability to accept an Astone wifi dongle in case you don't have a free Ethernet port. Oh; and you can use it as a NAS as well. Good device, and you can often find one for $130 Australian. Oh, and if you like hacking your devices, you won't be disappointed as there are many homegrown mods and new firmware for it. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: question re mobile internet connection
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 02:03 +0100, richardmalter wrote: > Hey folks, warm hello, > > Just wondering if anyone has experience connecting to a mobile Telstra > broadband account - with a plug-in USB chip. Ubuntu is recognizing the > chip but doesn't connect, anyone have any ideas? I am in VIC. > > Thank you. > > > Richard Are you using Ubuntu 9.10? If so, then don't use it - mobile broadband got partially broken in 9.10. Ubuntu 10.04 fixes 9.10's known problems in that regard and it comes out in about 12 days, or you could install Beta 2 now. I've been using 10.04 on my netbook for months, and on my desktop for weeks, because of the mobile broadband situation. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: E160 wireless internet modem with 3
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 12:00 +, Peter Kukums wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:20:54 +1000 > From: Peter Kukums > Subject: Re: E160 wireless internet modem with 3 > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <1265584854.4249.4.ca...@soprano> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have had no problems connecting other than poor signal sometimes, > which Ubuntu doesn't indicate. > > What plan are you on? If you are using prepaid you have to edit the > Three connection in Network Manager and change the APN to 3services. It > does not set it up that way automatically. Only if you're using 8.10. Ubuntus 9.04 and above have a different option for prepaid which will set the correct APN. The problems with connecting on 9.10 are to do with Network Manager saying you're connected, and the little blue light shining on your dongle, but it not really being connected. Chris Lees -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: E160 wireless internet modem with 3
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 12:00 +, Daniel wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 04:37:22 -0800 (PST) > From: Daniel > Subject: E160 wireless internet modem with 3 > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Has any body been able to use the E160 wireless modem with 3 ? (the > internet company named three) I would appreciate very much knowing > about your experience. It is supposed to work as soon as you plug it, > but I couldn?t. This doesn't happen anymore, because some computers started to ship with mobile broadband modems that the owners didn't want to set up. They were being bothered on every login by the wizard. If you're using Ubuntu 8.04 then you're pretty much out of luck - it's possible to get it to work, but it involves ridiculous hackery that I never could do. Its Network Manager is too old. The E160 is the classic Linux-compatible modem, for 8.10 and above. Right-click on the Network Manager applet and go to Edit Connections. Go to the Mobile Broadband tab and click Add. The wizard will take you through choosing your country and provider. At the end of it, you'll be able to connect by left-clicking the Network Manager applet and choosing "Three". Ubuntu 9.10 has partially-broken mobile broadband support; it sometimes won't connect. It's a real PITA; disconnecting and then reconnecting will sometimes solve the problem, otherwise you might need to unplug the modem and plug it back in again. Lucid fixed the problem about 10 days ago but it hasn't been backported to Karmic; fortunately Lucid is pretty dependable already so I use it on my netbook. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu not working
On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 12:00 +, Derek Smith wrote: > Hi, > because we are unable to have ADSL we have to use Wireless Broadband. > I am with 'Three' > Problem - I can access the Internet easily with 8.10 but Skype and my > printer (HP C5380)does not work with this OS. Skype for Linux exists and works well for many people. What problems specifically are you having? One common problem is that Skype doesn't give a way to specify an input and output sound device; you actually need to do it from the Ubuntu volume control. This is by design (it actually makes more sense this way). HP printers also should work. HPs drivers are open-source. > Whilst 9.04 worked perfectly for 12 months, the problems started when I > received 2 x Trojan Horses and Tracing cookies, designed to stop > Firefox. These cookies were passed onto a Laptop running 9.04 and Vista, > through 'Three' Wireless, and these cookies (3 infections) destroyed > Firefox in Ubuntu but Firefox in Vista was okay. The infection was > healed but 9.04 no longer works on this computer and 9.10 only occasionally. > A third computer running XP only had over 20 infections of the Cookie > which caused the computer to freeze-up. Once infections were cleared, > Internet connection (Bigpond Wireless) resumed to normal. A cookie is merely a small piece of information that a website can store on your computer, and access it again later. Cookies are harmless, but many anti-virus programs flag them as "threats" (they're not). There's no way that a cookie can have any effect on Firefox. All Firefox does is store them and send them back to the website on demand. I highly doubt if the "trojans" or the "cookies" actually affected Ubuntu at all. > I have had the Software on the Three modem updated under warranty but to > no effect. Ubuntu 9.10 has known problems with certain wireless modems... unfortunately. Reliability problems. I mean, these modems are not worth anything near the $130 you pay for them and they're always unreliable in moderate signal areas, but Ubuntu 9.10 will sometimes take a couple of tries to connect. You can get more success by unmounting the virtual drive that appears when you plug the modem in, then connecting. Some people report success with upgrading the kernel using the debs available at the Ubuntu kernel PPA (lost the URL sorry, Google might help) but I've yet to give that a good workout on my netbook. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Team roadmaps - UDS Dallas
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 12:00 +, Bob Weis wrote: > Why not use the medium? Do an agreed content mailout to everybodies > address books with encouragement to recipients to do the same. Viral > marketing > > Sent from my iPhone > > Bob Weis > > > > Yes Scott, we need to start at the grass roots level, given the > > resources available to Ubuntu-au. > > > > I subscribe to the ubuntu-marketing email list > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing > > and they talk about this stuff all of the time. > > > > The Danish loco team recently had a stall in a shopping centre, giving > > demos to shoppers. > > This is the type of thing is what we need to do. > > http://compadre.dk/blog/2009/11/15/ubuntu-live-in-arhus > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrew. Resorting to chain mail to spread word of Ubuntu? Sorry. All chains stop here. We don't want to sully Ubuntu's reputation. Actually on the subject of the Danish loco team, I've been thinking of having a stall at the Joondalup Festival in April showing off Ubuntu and giving away CDs. The details for prospective stallholders are not available yet but should be shortly, so I currently don't know how much it would cost me (especially since we'd need electricity for the event too). I'd need another volunteer from Perth to help me man the stall. I'm willing to dig my own money into this (depending on how much it costs) but if Canonical could help in any way that would be fantastic. If I can't get another Perth Ubuntu user involved I'd try and reach out to other distro communities to make it a general Linux stall. Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu-based malware
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 02:59 +, Paul wrote: > Just a quick follow-up from our previous discussions about viruses on > Linux. This is why we still need to be careful: > > * > http://digitizor.com/2009/12/10/ubuntu-malware-for-ddos-attack-found-in-screensaver/ > * > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu.html > > Backups and common sense are your most valuable allies! > > Paul Actually, the openness of Linux is also useful in detecting threats from Debian packages. You can open Debian packages in File Roller / other archive manager. Then you can see the preinst, postinst and prerm scripts and you can have a look at where the package will put files. Then if it's all okay, you can install the package. I'm thinking of writing a program to help audit the control scripts and where files get placed; you know, raising a warning if anything get put into your init scripts or Upstart and raising a warning if "wget" or "rm" get used inside the control scripts. Anyone else interested in this? Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Team roadmaps - UDS Dallas
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 12:00 +, James Beake wrote: > Something for everyone in this video from UDS Dallas. (about 45 min > duration) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpDRaQbOm7k&feature=player_embedded#at=12 > > It's about planning and executing on ideas generated by Ubuntu teams. > > This is the wiki Jono is speaking to during the talk. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Roadmaps/Lucid > > What does the Australian team want to do for the next release? > > Cheers > James It would be good to have some officially-sanctioned press ads that each LoCo can raise money to run in local newspapers. But I don't think we personally would be able to use it as we're very inactive down here. I can't really think of anything else that I'd really want at the moment. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: DAAP and DNLA
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 12:00 +, > From: db > Subject: Re: Topic Change: Does everyone like the Koala > Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > <25ae2d690911150055v22628395i854cb1921dbf5...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > try mt-daapd. Thanks; I'm using Mediatomb at the moment which is working at the moment and (when looking in Synaptic) seemed the easiest to get going. It wasn't actually that easy, certainly not as easy as Tangerine, but at least I've got my DNLA going :-) Oh BTW while I've got your attention, an earlier poster said they didn't like the notifications because you can't click on them to get rid of them. Well, I like them because they don't demand that you act on them. With the old notifications, I always got annoyed at "having to" click the X to close them (yes, they did time-out, but it felt like I had to close them). With the new notifications, there's nothing you can do, but they stay out of your way at least and they look pretty - which means I don't have the urge to close them as soon as they appear. Does that make sense? I feel less annoyed at the appearance of a notification when you can't get rid of it, than when you can. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Topic Change: Does everyone like the Koala
I love the little points of Karmic. The Dust Sand theme - apparently it was available in Jaunty too, but this is the first time I've noticed it. It does look a little like OS X which I usually hate, but it's a very nice theme that integrates with everything well. I also like the fade-in, fade-out of the usplash, and the way the Xsplash fades into the desktop. I don't like the completely different looks of the Usplash and the Xsplash; IMHO the Xsplash should start by looking just like the Usplash, and then morph into something more visually fascinating. Of course, I like the new versions of programs... but I'm very disappointed that Rhythmbox's DNLA and DAAP plugins are broken, and that the Tangerine DAAP server won't run on 9.10. This has taught me to only use LTS releases on my server in the future! Ubuntu Karmic is fast. I formatted / into Ext4 before installing and everything feels a lot snappier. I'm very pleased with this. My netbook's slow SSD is noticably faster with Karmic/Ext4 than with Jaunty/Ext2. Oh, and the wifi LED works now, and I should theoretically get better battery life with the better Powertop result. I also love the little warning you get when you run the update manager on battery power. That's cool. And although I thankfully haven't seen it myself, I'm also very impressed by the ability for Gnome Power Manager to know if your laptop battery has been recalled, and give you a warning. Unfortunately, Karmic is not a dream release for netbooks, due to the problems with mobile broadband. My broadband stick sometimes takes a couple of tries to connect properly, and from what I hear I'm one of the lucky ones. Mobile broadband, broken - this is something that needs to be prevented before too many more people get their hands on Ubuntu. I'm also a fan of the notifications system, especially the way it fades out more the closer your mouse gets to the notification. Did you know you can get Firefox to use the new notifications, by installing the "firefox-notify" extension from Synaptic? I also like the Software Center, it does make it easier to discover new programs. Don't worry - all my programs will remain free of charge under the GPL, I haven't been tempted to sell my wares :-) I'm hoping that the Software Center convinces more developers to look at Ubuntu, and that we get some first-tier game ports and some Blu-ray playback software in there soon! In conclusion, I love Karmic on my desktop. I like Karmic on my netbook, although I still think netbook users should stick with Intrepid. And unfortunately I don't like Karmic on my server due to the problems with DNLA and DAAP - all server software seems to have one problem or another. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Creating A Linux Distro - Need Programmers, Designers etc
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 20:18 +, Julius Papz wrote: > Hey all, > > We need people who can create us a linux distro were planning > to bring to the market! we need anyone who wants to help out > > we attached a document regarding our project! And we will have a website > about this project in a matter of weeks > > > cheers > > Julius Papadopoulos Time for some reality here. There are already hundreds (thousands?) of distributions. All the distributions that actually get used have one thing in common: They know who their target market is, and they design their system to be catered specifically to that target. So far, nothing I've seen about your project has told me that you even know who you're intending this distribution for. I get the vague idea that it's for desktops, and that it might be just a live CD environment... but there's absolutely nothing so far differentiating your project from the hundred or so Ubuntu respins. Except that yours seems to lack originality by comparison. You also don't say what you really need in terms of programming. Do you need people who know HTML? PHP? Python? C? C#? Ruby? I might have the skillset to help if it's Python, but I'm not going to volunteer and then find that I'm expected to write something Ajaxy. And when you say "we", who is the "we"; in other words, if I joined this project, who exactly am I working for? What distributions is this based on? Ubuntu? Linux From Scratch? OpenSUSE? T2? Android? With Gnome? KDE? XFCE? Openbox and AWN? And do you know what's most off-putting about this? You mention in the document that you made the mockup in MS Paint. You attached the document in Microsoft Word 2007 format! (thanks to Harrison for converting it to ODF so I could actually read it) Why on earth would anybody use your Linux distribution when you don't? Before you can get anybody from the Linux community involved, you need to ask yourself those questions, and have some pretty good answers. Until then, it sounds like you're trying to get someone to make "MY gR8 OS!" without actually booting up Linux at any stage yourself. I'm sorry if I sounded nasty (I wasn't trying to be or sound that way), but honestly I'd hate to see you waste your time (and other people's time) on an ill-defined project, when you could instead be installing Ubuntu and learning all about our exciting operating system :-) Chris. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 9.10 daily live
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 08:51 +, Slawek Drabot said: > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:04 -0800 (PST) > From: Slawek Drabot > Subject: 9.10 daily live > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <256969.5706...@web50706.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > What happenned to the daily live CD? > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ > > seems to be stuck on 2009-10-28 > > was hoping to get a CD with the latest bug fixes Assuming I can find somewhere to host them, I was planning on slipstreaming all updates into some Ubuntu 9.10 32-bit and 64-bit Desktop CD images and releasing the result. I was thinking of doing it at the end of the month. The purpose of this being to hopefully get some updates that fix booting or installation problems, so people affected by those issues can install the fixed 9.10. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Music sharing not working in Jaunty
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 12:00 +0100, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > Here is a screenshot of my desktop, running Rhythmbox. As you can see, > DAAP plugin is clearly activated, but there is no 'sharing' tab in the > preferences menu. I also captured the version number of Gnome and the > output of 'uname -a' for reference. > > http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2628/screenshotmk.jpg To configure the DAAP plugin, you need to click on the DAAP entry in the Plugins window, and then click Configure in that same window. This brings up the place where you can type the name of your new share. It doesn't add an entry to your Preferences window AFAIK. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Music sharing not working in Jaunty
That's rather odd. Rhythmbox should have a DAAP plugin that is installed by default, that can either share or browse DAAP shares. You do need to enable it in the Plugins window. Also, if you have a home server and you want to share music from it, I recommend installing Tangerine on the server to do your DAAP sharing; it's lighter than running Rhythmbox and it can be done on a headless server :-) Whatever you do, don't try to fix the problem by upgrading to Karmic. DAAP and DLNA support is completely, totally and utterly broken in Karmic, all servers and all clients (well... I haven't tried Mediatomb as the server or Banshee as the client yet). -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Problem with digests and Re: Dick Smiths Webcam
I noticed recently that I hadn't been getting my digests from ubuntu-au; well, today they all came at once. One big long e-mail with 106 messages on it. Anyone else had this problem? One of those messages requested that I link to a picture of the Dick Smith's webcam that advertises Linux compatibility. Here it is: http://www.chrislees.info/dse_webcam.jpg -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Easy-to-find plug 'n' play Linux webcam!
Hi all, yesterday when I was in Dick Smiths I noticed they have their own brand of miniature notebook webcam. On the back, it actually advertises Linux compatibility with kernel 2.6.28! And it really does work. The quality is better than my older camera AND it works with Flash. (It's a UVC device). It appears to also contain an ALSA-compatible microphone but I haven't tested that part yet. So: That's a Dick Smiths webcam, with Linux compatibility advertised on the back. I think it usually sells for $99, but I got it for $70-something. Should be very easy to find: Just look in your nearest Tandy's or Dick Smiths! -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Mobile Broadband for 9.04
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 05:14 +0100, opm595 wrote: > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:12:43 +1000 > From: opm595 > Subject: Mobile Broadband for 9.04? > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <1250565164.4251.9.ca...@opm3nt> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Guys, > Just wondering if anyone can help me with advice on going mobile > (broadband) with 9.04. I'm hoping it's actually possible, because my > current mobile phone provider (Vodafone) has said noway are they looking > at servicing anything other then MS, between now and this time next > millennium. So, just thought someone here might be able to point me in > the right direction. > Thanks in advance. > Regards, > Rob Hi Rob. Ubuntu 9.04 is compatible with lots of mobile broadband devices and providers. In fact, it comes with a massive list of providers' settings, so when you plug in a supported 3G device it will ask you what provider you are with, and then will be able to connect immediately afterward. Much easier than Windows :-) I use a Haweuii E160G (I know I've spelt the manufacturer's name wrong) that Three provided me with - this is the standard Prepaid modem to my understanding. A friend of mine is on pay-as-you-go and has another Haweuii modem with a rotatable USB connector, that also works out-of-the-box on Jaunty but doesn't seem to be as good a modem. I've also seen someone with an Optus-branded E160G, so you can take a look at Optus and Three. Three have good pricing and generally a good signal and good speeds, although it's not a patch on my ADSL (I live in a mobile broadband slow patch as well actually). There are other modems around that work out-of-the-box on Jaunty, so just look up hardware compatibility lists. The modem is the important bit, not the provider - but stick with a mainstream provider otherwise you won't find their details in the Mobile Broadband Wizard. I hope this helps. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: WUBI
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 05:14 +0100, Jeff Spargo wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:16:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jeff Spargo > Subject: WUBI > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: > <56513260-d10b-4910-8dc4-3b12335ed...@f20g2000prn.googlegroups.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > HI! > Ive been playing with ubuntu for a few years and this year have been > stoked with WUBI. Wubi 8 was fine but I demounted it to show my son > (he's 9 and says "WINDOWS IS CRAP! I just cant do what I want to do on > it") ) how to put it onto my laptop. I tried teh new wubi that slaps > on the 9.04 BUT the bloody download never finishes, tried 3 times. > I have the iso from a mag but prefer to run teh dual boot option and > keep teh xp on the side.. > Can I somehow run the wubi and get it to use the magazine ubuntu I > have? There are three options: 1. Put the .iso file into the same folder as the Wubi program, so it won't download it from the internet 2. Burn the .iso to a CD and run Wubi straight off the CD - it comes on the CD. 3. Best option: Burn the .iso to a CD, boot off it and tell the installer to resize your Windows partition and install Ubuntu in the free space, to make a real dual-boot. Wubi has a couple of massive drawbacks; firstly, you only get up to 30 gigabytes of space, and secondly if anything happens to Windows you will also lose your Ubuntu. If Windows crashes, it doesn't unmount its own partition cleanly, so Ubuntu won't be able to boot. You need to run chkdisk before Ubuntu will be able to work again. Even with the existence of Wubi, I still recommend a real dual-boot setup. Fewer potential problems, and much easier to turn your dual-boot into a single-boot. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Converting .MOV files
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 12:00 +0100, Rob wrote: > > G'day All, > I have some old video files that are in .MOV. I can of course play them > with Ubuntu, but can anyone tell me if there's a way to convert .MOV > files to say .MPEG, .OGG or, even better, straight to DVD format so I > can watch them on my telly using my DVD player (plays just about > everything except .mov files)? > Cheers, > Rob Have you tried dragging them into a Kdenlive project? You can use Kdenlive's output renderer to convert them, or edit them together and use Kdenlive's DVD authoring function to chuck them onto a DVD. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Gnome Popup Messages
You could use the notify-send command (man notify-send) for this task as well, if you put it into the script instead of the zenity line: notify-send -t 5 "Message from Simon Ives" "$1" This gives you one of the popup balloon messages, so it won't eat your clients' keypresses or interrupt their work, but it will remain on the screen for about 30 seconds. Increase the number if necessary, and add extra options if you want (such as "-u critical" for an eye-catching balloon, or "-i important" for an exclamation mark icon). -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Evolution bug - #273736
There is a new version of Evolution in Intrepid-Proposed now :-) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Evolution bug - #273736
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 12:00 +, Peter Kukums wrote: > Hi Folks, > > after upgrading to Intrepid my Evolution often will not offer to open > attachments with the right application, i.e. only offers to save the > attachment. I see that on Launchpad this bug has already been logged and > it is supposedly fixed on 16/10/2008. > > My question is, how long does a fix usually take to get through to the > update repositories as my version of Evolution has not been updated yet, > and my system checks for updates daily? There is an additional repository called Proposed. If you go to System > Administration > Software Sources, you can enable "intrepid-proposed" updates, which give you update packages that are less well-tested. Be aware that Proposed packages could break your system in the same sort of way that Ubuntu packages have done before they created the Proposed repository (i.e. Xorg not working). I have been up-to-date with Proposed for about a week, with no ill effects. (it's exciting!). I don't remember seeing an Evolution update; the problem you describe might be fixed for Jaunty, but not for Intrepid. Or the new package might not have been uploaded to Intrepid-Proposed yet. Or it was and I missed it. Chris Lees -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 33, Issue 11
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 12:00 +, David Ryder wrote: > Hi, > I need the wav format to play in some of my cd players that do not > accept mp3. Audio CDs use CDA format, not WAVE. Remember that audio CDs were on the market for years before Windows came along (that's what the W stands for in WAVE). A WAVE file will be converted at burn time anyway, so just skip the step and use Rhythmbox, Serpentine, Banshee etc to create an audio CD straight from your MP3 files. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ubuntu in Western Australia
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 12:00 +, phils linux box <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject: re ubuntu in western Australia > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Any one over in this part of the world ? > Australia seems teh poorer relation as not much I can find since May 2007 > > regards Phil > > WA I'm also from WA. If you need anything, give me a hoy. Chris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: WinFast DTV2000H on Kubuntu 8.04
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 12:00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:51:16 +1100 > From: "Frode Egeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all, > > I'm hoping someone has one of these cards, as I think I'm stuck. > I've added the cx88-dvb module to my modules.conf, and the card now is at > least 'seen' by my system, but I can't find any channels in Kaffeine's TV > mode. > I have also tried 'tvtime', which also fails to see any channels. I know we > have at least some reception here for digital tv, so if someone has one of > these cards working, please drop me a line. Are you using the tiny little aerial that came with the unit (if one did), or are you plugging it into your roof antenna? The little aerials are useless; you will probably have to plug the card into your rooftop aerial in order to pick up any channels. Having said that, my Pinnacle 73E USB stick won't pick up Seven or Nine even when plugged into the roof. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Hardy Heron for the eeepc
I'm surprised they didn't decide to call it "Hardeee"... If I hadn't just been made redundant, I'd buy an EeePC for this. I might try it in virtualisation or on live USB on my normal computer. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: HP OfficeJet Pro L7380 on Ubuntu
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 12:00 +0100, Paul Gear wrote: > Hi folks, > > I thought i'd just share a success story with some new hardware we > bought. The device is an HP OfficeJet Pro L7380. RRP is $299 but we > picked one up for considerably less than that on eBay. > > After doing all of the usual unfastening of tape from every nook & > cranny in the device, and running the printer alignment, we plugged it > into my wife's desktop machine, running Ubuntu hardy (8.04 LTS). CUPS > found the device and installed a queue for it automatically, XSane > started immediately, gave two warnings about the device being busy, and > after that worked perfectly with zero configuration. > > Everything we've done with the machine has worked really well so far: > scan quality is great, printing is fast, and copying works as advertised > (we haven't tried faxing or batch scanning with the document feeder > yet). And all of this was without ever having to install a driver disk! > > Well done Ubuntu and the Free Software community, and well done HP for > making a device that works perfectly out of the box with CUPS & SANE! > I've always been a fan of HP printers, and this experience has > reinforced my fanboyism. I completely agree. My father's printer died the other day and he asked me what brand to buy as a replacement. I told him to get an HP. I plugged it in while he watched and he was quite surprised when the bubble popped up to say that the printer was ready for use. He asked if the scanner drivers were on the CD or if I'd need to download them. I just installed Xsane and it all worked out-of-the-box. Now I'm trying to work out how to share the printer across the network to my computer; unfortunately that part doesn't seem to be so easy. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
ABC Shop DRM and Silverlight
Just a heads-up in case you didn't see the memo from DefectiveByDesign.org. The ABC Shop Online now has a section where you can buy DRM'ed downloads of their shows. Apart from the ethical considerations with DRM, the software relies on Silverlight and as such you can't even look at previews on Linux. Mac users can look at the previews but can't buy downloads. I'm currently writing to the ABC to complain, if you feel strongly about this you could write to them too. The address is www.abc.net.au. Cheers, Christopher Lees -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: IE in wine (eTax 2008)
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 12:00 +0100, Null Ack wrote: > It seems to be poor architecture. The client OS should not be a > factory into the systems functionality - it should be a thin client > multi platform with no real client dependencies other than basic web > functions. True, but judging by the looks of the software, it was probably built back in the days when the media ran all those stories about how the Internet was an insecure medium for your personal information. Nowadays, there's so much personal information being sent around by botnets and phishing victims, it's relatively benign to do your tax through your web browser :-P -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: workspace behaviour
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 12:00 +0100, James Takar wrote: > Hi Guys > > Been noticing something interesting on one of my ubuntu pc's. It's the only > one on 24/7. Basically if left alone for some time it switches workspaces by > itself. It did it this morning as I watched. No intervention from me. Is this > meant to be a feature or some oddity on my end? > > James Possibly a dumb question, but do you have the Compiz Screensaver plugin turned on? It might be firing up after some idle time and switching workspaces as part of the "screensaving" :-) Chris Lees -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Reformat USB stick with a CD ISO9660 FS
Bevin Watson wrote: > Failed. > It seems to see them as different devices (scd and sdd) > I tried again, writing zeroes to scd but it didn't seem interested in > me. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media$ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/scd > dd: writing to `/dev/scd': No space left on device > 514929+0 records in > 514928+0 records out > 263643136 bytes (264 MB) copied, 16.7721 s, 15.7 MB/s > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media$ sudo gparted > == > libparted : 1.7.1 > == > Unable to open /dev/scd1 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/scd1 > has been opened read-only. > Unable to open /dev/scd1 read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/scd1 > has been opened read-only. > Unable to open /dev/scd1 - unrecognised disk label. > Unable to open /dev/sdd - unrecognised disk label. > I'm strarting to think I should just leave the USB next to a big magnet > for a few days... If you want to leave it next to a magnet, be my guest. But it won't do anything, as flash is not sensitive to magnetism. As I mentioned before, I've already tried writing zeroes to a similar flash drive, to no avail. I've since found out that there is special hardware that causes the "CD" portion to be visible and read-only, so I guess doing anything else now is a waste of time. Unless you have Windows. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Reformat USB stick with a CD ISO9660 FS
On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 00:41 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Subject: Reformat USB stick with a CD ISO9660 FS > To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > A couple of days ago the nice people from MBF handed out 512 Mb USB > sticks at the train station. It has a small ISO9660 (CD) partition > which directs Windows users to their web site. The rest (500 Mb or so) > is left as an empty vfat partition. > I did the right thing and went to the web site and read it in detail. > Now I want to give the USB to my child. He is too young to take out > insurance so I want to remove CD partition to stop annoying pop-ups. > It says the CD file system is read-only ?(obviously) and won't let me > delete the files from it. It seems the simplest thing is to just > reformat the whole device. However, I'm getting a little out of my > league thinking about partitions versus the whole device. fdisk etc. > seem to be partition-based. Should I just "dd" all over it? > nb: The USB stick shows up as /dev/scd1 (ISO 9660) and /dev/sdd1 (vfat) Recently my father asked me to do the same thing, with a USB stick from his workplace. Gparted would just freeze when starting up if the USB drive was connected. Cfdisk could easily reformat the writable portion, but it couldn't touch the ISO9660 part. I tried dd'ing all over it, but that also did not touch the ISO9660 part! I think there must be some sort of hardware protection. Maybe the ISO9660 part is actually a ROM chip rather than just part of the flash. I noticed a couple of electrical stores are selling flash drives for less than $10, so if you can't de-insurance your freebie stick, at least you can get your son one cheaply. The technique of having a seperate partition emulating a CD was actually invented for the purpose of distributing a device driver on the device itself. I'm sure the technique has never been used for its original purpose, but the guy's got to be rich now :-) Chris Lees -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: linux = windows dictionary
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 12:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:05:54 +1100 The Wassermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you David, > > > > mounted ? samba share? > > Mounting is a UNIX (includes Linux) thing: in order to access a mass > storage volume, usually a disk drive or partition on a disk drive, but > could also be any 'device' (USB key drive, digial camera, MP3 player) > with a 'file system' (an organized system for dealing with 'files' and > 'directories' aka 'folders'), this mass storage volume needs to be > connected to the kernel (heart of the operating system). Actually, it's not a "Unix thing". All operating systems must mount drives, full-stop. It's just that the Unix way (where the drive becomes part of the filesystem) is the best and most flexible way, and Unix/Linux seem to be the only operating systems left where you can manually mount a volume. (but thank god for automounters!) The term "mount" itself started with Unix, or possibly with Multix (who knows?) but Mac users were familiar with the term and concept 15 years ago. The Macintosh treated Syquest cartridges as "hard drives", not removable media, and therefore would only mount them at startup. There was a little utility called SCSI Manager that would "mount" the removable cartridges even if you put them in while the Mac was running. I guess Syquest cartridges never took off in the DOS world, and that's why we're having this conversation :-) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Flying gParted
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 12:00 +, The Wassermans wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:54 +1100 > From: The Wassermans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Flying gParted > To: "ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Trying to fly gParted without success. > > Please: > 1.Interpret the partition information in the attached file. > > 2.Do I already have a free partition that I can adapt to pool data > files created and accessible to Ubuntu and Windows, as the case may be. > What steps from here to achieve that? > > 3 Is there a better product to use for partitioning? > > Dave W Hi Dave, The information attached shows a SATA hard drive partitioned into two Linux ext3 partitions, one Windows NTFS partition, and seemingly two swap partitions. Ubuntu can read and write NTFS partitions, so you could just use your big NTFS partition for that. It is already accessible to you under /media/disk-2. The read/write speeds won't be too impressive, but it will work safely. One of your ext3 partitions is already mounted at /media/disk-1. I imagine this is the partition that you really want to use as a dedicated Windows-Linux data pool. If so, (I haven't used Gparted in ages) right-click /dev/sda2 and you'll see some kind of option to change the partition to "Fat32". This is the most common filesystem format to use to transfer data between Windows and any other operating system. The speeds will be good, but remember that Fat32 has a filesize limit of 4 gigabytes! This operation will destroy all data on /dev/sda2 (the drive that is mounted at /media/disk-1) so copy all information off that drive first onto a different partition or a DVD, before changing the filesystem format. The final option is to install an Ext2 / Ext3 filesystem driver for Windows so you can access the /dev/sda2 or /dev/sda4 (root) filesystem from within Windows. Due to the fact that Linux supports lots of special characters in filenames and Windows doesn't, you'll find that some files on your Ubuntu partition cannot be accessed on Windows. There are also security implications - an attacker who has compromised the Windows side of your computer can easily install a rootkit or something into the mounted Ubuntu partition. Frankly, your best option is to access the NTFS partition from within Ubuntu. Everything should already be set up for that; if you can't get write access you will need to change the permissions of /media/disk-2 so that you have read/write access. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Forgotten name of program
On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 10:08 +, "Mark M Lambert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject: Forgotten name of program > Hi folks, > > I've had a mental blank and forgotten the name of a program I used to > use quite a bit. It is a command line program that makes a .deb package > from a directory with source code. > > Does anyone know what I am talking about or am I off with the fairies > again? I think Checkinstall is what you're after. ./configure make sudo checkinstall ...and everyone should use it if they're not planning on making fully-featured Debian packages! -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Ipod support in Gutsy
On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 00:01 +, Junin Toiro wrote: > On Jan 24, 2008 12:47 PM, Trisha Cupra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Try Floola at http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/ > > > > Interestingly when I try and manually encode with ffmpeg following the > suggestions in the above threads I get an error about codec aac not being > available though I do seem to have everything needed installed. A little while ago, FFMPEG changed a few of its format names. Try this: for the -vcodec parameter, give "faac" instead of "aac". If that gives the same error, try typing "ffmpeg -formats" and see if faac or aac are in the list of codecs. If not, then it would look like you haven't compiled all the support you need into it - try using the ffmpeg from Medibuntu. Good luck. Chris Lees http://bigbolshevik.blogs.friendster.com -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Can I use Debian DVD's to install on Ubuntu
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 04:58 +, squareyes wrote: > Hi all, > I have a 3 DVD set of Debian 4 "Etch", and was wondering if I can use > them to > install applications like Scribus, Inkscape etc. on Ubuntu 7.04 ? > > I have friends who have Ubuntu running on machines with no Internet access, > and thought if I could add the DVD's to their (mine too, have slow dial up) > apt.sources list and use them as repositories. Would save them bringing > their boxes here > and installing via my slow dialup. > > Are there any problems that may rear their ugly heads. Using them as an actual Apt source is likely to be troublesome - you could end off running half Debian and half Ubuntu, which is no fun for anyone. If it's only a couple of applications, you could manually open the packages with File Roller and place the files from data.tar.gz manually into the folders they would belong in. You would still need to download the dependencies from the Ubuntu repos, but even though the programs are linked against the Debian versions of the libraries they should still work on Ubuntu. I'd only recommend this for a small handful of programs, otherwise it gets too cumbersome, and there's always a small possibility of breakage. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 23, Issue 17
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 07:25 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:39:45 +1100 > From: Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Have been doing some more research after reading what has been posted > here. I am looking at the following: > > Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L ) $110 > > Video Card: Gigabyte 8500 GT 256 MB $88.00 > > HDD: 3.5" HDD SATA-300 320GB 16MB Seagate SV35 (ST3320620SV) $105 > > CPU? The suggested INTEL CORE2DUO E8200 2.66Ghz/1333 at $250 is a little > above my intended budget. I can't comment on reliability, but for motherboard I've got an Asus P5K Premium which works brilliantly - even the wifi works. The ordinary P5K is about $149 and it would work very well. They are Intel sockets though. Looks like you've got a good price on the video card. As for CPU to go with my suggested board, here's what it says in my catalogue: E4500 $159 E4600 $179 E6550 $209 E6750 $239 So there are plenty of Core 2 CPUs under $250. For RAM I'd get two 512 sticks rather than one 1gig stick, but if you want to keep costs down you can get a 1 gig stick for $35 - just ten dollars more than a single 512 stick. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 23, Issue 6
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 12:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Daniel Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Multimedia with ubuntu / kdenlive > > Geek tips: > > * Kdenlive is a great iMovie equivalent, but it's still essentially > alpha. Make use of the autosave feature. Set it to 1 minute. Trust me. I'll bow to your experience here, as I've only used Kdenlive for simple things. But the only crashes I've experienced have been when trying to open a second project without restarting Kdenlive first. > * The version of FFMPEG in the medibuntu repos is incompatible with the > version of Kdenlive in the official repos. So, for that matter, is > Compiz Fusion on your desktop. Use official standard ubuntu ffmpeg > builds with Kdenlive. How so? They are working in peace and harmony here; I just had to install another package in order to get FFMPEG to read the sound from VOB files. The FFMPEG in Medibuntu Gutsy is awesome. I haven't tried Compiz Fusion with Kdenlive but the Compiz that comes with Gutsy works fine. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 22, Issue 26
On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 12:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:41:05 +1100 > From: "The Wassermans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Chicken and Egg > To: > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Having only recently loaded Ubuntu 7.1 on a spare computer, I am striving (on > and off) to come to grips with it. I plan, ultimately, to switch completely > to Ubuntu if I can learn to live with it. I have decided that the best way > to determine it's suitability is simply to use it as much as I can and > attempt to configure things as I go along. But I have a chicken and egg > problem - how to wean myself off of Windows (XP)? I will also need to assess > which, for me, are the most suitable OSS replacement for my favourite Windows > based programs. I figure this will take me a year. > > First things first. Should I?: > 1. Set up a dual boot or, > 2. Install a second HDD or > 3. Simply network two computers? > In each case I might need some assistance/advice. You've given three excellent answers, but the third one is the least risky and the most hassle-free. Just as a personal anecdote, I started off two years ago with a Mac/Ubuntu dual-boot. 6 months later, I had a Windows/Ubuntu dual-boot, and thought that I'd be dual-booting forever. Quickly it became obvious that I was being held to Windows by my MP3 player and video editing. I recently discovered Kdenlive and bought a new MP3 player that is drag 'n' drop compatible, and as of yesterday I'm single-booting Ubuntu! -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 22, Issue 25
On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 12:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:32:51 +1100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Telstra was one of these ISPs after their email system > ground to a halt when they were inundated with spam both incoming and > outgoing just a few years ago. > > Cheers, > Andre I remember this very well; the failure of their e-mail system disrupted non-Telstra e-mail traffic too, which caused me to lose important e-mails addressed to me, and also important e-mails that I sent. This in turn caused the break up of a team for a university assignment, which also caused me to fail that assignment, and caused me to fail the whole unit (by just four marks!) and meant I had to spend another semester at university! Moral of the story: Use SpamAssassin instead; it doesn't generate return traffic and it works extremely well to stop spam. You're looking at someone who doesn't get spam on their SA-protected account anymore! -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au