Re: Rob's Project: Getting Ubuntu Doing What He Needs
Hey Rob, FWIW, here's what I do, your mileage may differ! I have an Ubuntu dual boot XP SP3 box that I use for Ham Radio Stuff. There is lots of stuff that simply doesn't have linux equivalents. I too got sick of rebooting so I installed Wine. (from the Ubuntu repository) Now, from Wine in Ubuntu, I can go to the real C:\ directory and run Windows stuff by clicking on C:\Program Files\whatever-program.exe. Haven't found one yet that doesn't work, since they appear to be using the native Windows API' and DLL files??? Only been doing it for a couple of weeks so haven't given it a real test yet. Be interesting to know other folk's experiences 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 13/08/2010 20:43, Rob Farquhar wrote: Hi, everybody. Sorry for not posting in a while. A month ago, I blew my stack over some issues I was having with my current desktop PC setup. At the moment, I run a dual-boot of Windows XP SP3 and Linux Mint. There are some basic tasks I do in one OS that I seem unable to do in the other, and resetting the computer several times a day is winding me up. I'm hoping that you fine folks might (if you have the time, of course) give me some advice on getting one operating system doing as much of what I want as it can. Although I'm currently running Mint, I'm more than happy to skip back to Ubuntu should Linux wind up being the basis for my system. Now, I must warn you that I'm still very much a novice to the terminal and the like, and while I'm willing to learn, I'm still leery of solutions that seem overly technical, like OS emulation. Anyway, to kick things off, here's what I want from my PC, with some notes on how it's working (or not) right now: - I'm starting to get back into serious writing at the moment, so this is the main thing I want from my PC. I use OpenOffice under Windows as well as Linux and I've been using Dropbox to ensure I'm working on the most current version no matter which boot I'm running. However, if I want to use my Brother MFC-465CN multifunction unit (printer, fax, scanner) I have to boot under Windows; I have no idea how to set it up under Linux and naturally Brother's website isn't the most helpful. - While I'm writing I'd like to be able to listen to music. My main music collection is on Windows, managed by iTunes, which also manages my podcast subscriptions and syncs with my 8GB iPod Nano. I've bought a couple of tracks from the iTunes Store but I'm not too fussed if I lose access to these. - Naturally, I browse the web. In theory I can do this under either boot, but I've noticed that Windows seems to manage the multimedia side of the web a little better, especially when I'm trying to play high-def content. However, since mid-last year, Windows XP has had serious browsing issues. No matter whether I use Firefox or IE, it's a coin-toss as to whether any given site I go to will actually load: * Sometimes the browser will load the page title then sit and think. * Sometimes it'll partway load the page then sit and think. * Sometimes it will give me a 404 or similar for a site other than the one I was trying to get to. * Sometimes it'll load the page source, sometimes for an entirely different site than the one I was trying to get to. * Sometimes it'll load a single graphic from the page and insist that that's everything. Stopping the load and refreshing rarely works, either. Oddly enough, this problem started recurring within a week of the last time I reformatted my hard drive and reinstalled everything. - I use Thunderbird under Mint, but it's still version 2 and I have no idea when the Mint folks will be updating Mint 8 (Helena). I was starting to like using Version 3 under Windows, but I'm a little paranoid about having my correspondence under that platform. - I'd like to use Skype a bit more often than I do, as I can't get Linux to recognise the microphone that plugs into my SoundBlaster Audigy 4 and I have no idea whether there's some switch tucked away in alsamixer that I need to flip. - My mobile phone is a Motorola RAZRv9. In my ideal computing world, I'd like to be able to sync its address book up with Thunderbird, which I can't even do under Windows. I'd also like to access (and maybe even edit) the .amr format voice notes I can make on the phone. - The last thing I do with my PC is play games, like Dawn of War II, Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2. This is becoming less and less of a priority (especially as I have an Xbox 360). Ultimately, I'd like an “at my fingertips” computing experience, where everything I want to do is a handful of clicks and a smattering of seconds away at any given moment. I'd be willing to tolerate a dual-boot setup if all I used Windows for was gaming, though. So what do you think? Can I accomplish my dream? What will I need to do? Cheers, folks, Rob Farquhar
Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe
Dave, Where in country vic... reply offlist if you wish? Can you document what you did? I'm sure there aremore people than me interested. I'm ramping up my own (very) small business at the moment and it sounds like something to run with! 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 18/06/2010 13:45, Dave Hall wrote: Hi Tom, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 18:47 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: I am the only one who is want a ubnutu system at the internet cafe, and the only way is to demo it in the wild, but I don't want to keep repeating the same steps (download this, download that) so what about a custom liveCD (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) ? or should I just look at persistent image? I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. I have an NFS server which stores all the home directories, the machines automatically login after 15 seconds. Accounts are stored in LDAP to make it easier to swap machines out. Some of the files are marked as read only. I still need to do more work lock things down, but overall it works well. They used to have at least an issue a week when they were running XP, now there is something minor for me to look at once or twice a month. Cheers Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2945 - Release Date: 06/18/10 04:35:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: firefox on Ubuntu 10.04
Cheers Rob, Disabling ipv6 in Firefox did it for me 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 30/05/2010 12:26, Rob Dawson wrote: Hi Norm, I had the same issue in an earlier version and my problem was in the ipv6 settings. Here is some info (with links) that might help: From: http://firefox-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/05/common-issues-solutions.html Symptoms: * Web sites keeps loading but never show up * Firefox cant connect to any sites, but other browsers work * Firefox can connect to sites only using the IP number * Connections settings are reset after restart Solution: Make sure your connection settings are correct (e.g., Tools - Options - Advanced - Network / Connection - Settings). Additionally, disable ipv6 on Firefox Preferences, by setting the network.dns.disableIPv6 preference to true. 1. Type about:config in the address bar, press Enter. 2. Find network.dns.disableIPv6 in the list. 3. Right-click - Toggle. 4. Restart Firefox and try again. And from: http://wojox.homelinux.org/?p=46 You can also disable ipv6 on the system. Ubuntu has a newer Internet protocol called IPv6 turned on by default. However, some hardware such as NICs and modems shows broken behaviour when exposed to IPv6 related DNS requests. This leaves you wondering why DNS resolution seems slower or doesnt work at all. So lets disable it: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub Look for this line and add: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=ipv6.disable=1 quiet splash Save and close your file then run: sudo update-grub2 Reboot and see if you notice a difference. Cheers, Rob On 30/05/10 10:11, Norm, VK3XCI wrote: Boy, is 10.04 giving me some grief, particularly from an LTS point and especially on my 701SD netbook Here's the latest I finally got wireless working on the 701SD. had to change the whole network to WEP 40 open key. I have some cards coming to enable WPA. The current problem is Firefox won't download https pages. I get a server taking too long to respond error. Chromium connects just fine. I've been through all the privacy and encryption settings and I can't find a problem. Anyone got a clue? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2904 - Release Date: 05/30/10 04:25:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Wireless 701SD SOLVED
OK, so I got it figured. 10.04, on an eeePC 701SD will NOT authenticate to a 40bitWEP network with shared key authentication! I tried 3 networks to which I had administrator access and on none of them would it authenticate. Every other combination available works. Given that WEP 40 shared is almost as insecure as no encryption, it's probably not a big problem. However, it did work in 9.04 and now it doesn't, so there has been some sort of regression. Is it worth filing a bug? -- 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 701SD wireless
Gday Scott et al We have a problem output from lspci -v | less gives 01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22) detail here 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 PCI-E Ethernet Controller (rev b0) Detail here. OK, so it works at my workplace into an unencrypted network and at the local Coffee shop hot spot. There has to be a problem with authentication using 40 bit WEP and shared key. I'l investigate further tonite... have to change my network which will lock a couple of old PCs out but hey, I can blue wire them for the moment. 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 20/05/2010 11:51, Scott Evans wrote: The Realtek is the onboard LAN ;-) Scott Evans VK7HSE Phone: +61362291658 Mobile: +61417586157 Skype: vk7hse sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org PGP/GPG Key ID 2B8CA152 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
701SD wireless
OK, I've just put 10.04 netbook edition on my eeePC 701SD. Surprise surprise, the wireless doesn't work! I can see my wireless network, but when I try to connect the icon indicates that it's trying, just never succeeds. I'm running WEP shared key (Iknow, I know... it's the lowest common demoninator for some OLD hardware). The hardware is realtek RTL 8187SE. Anyone got a clue? -- 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 701SD wireless
G'day Scott Yep the blue light comes on, that's how I can see all the other networks. Hardware seems to work OK, just won't authenticate. If it's an Atheros chip, how come the kernel recognises it as Realtek? I wonder if there was a chenge of chipset at some stage. This little monster has ALWAYS given me WiFi problems from the moment I bought it! 9.04 and XP are the only OS's that have worked, and both flawlessly! Just been through the AP set-up, copy/pasted the key, no joy. 3 other lappies and 1 PC seem to think it's OK :). Now here's something took it to work, there are some non-encrypted wireless nets at the TAFE. Connected perfectly??? Next stop McDonalds. Wonder if there's a protocol problem with my gateway? I'll set it up open /no encryption and try later! 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 20/05/2010 08:36, Scott Evans wrote: Can we just back track a little... When the Eee PC is powered up is the blue LED active? if not then the wireless card has been disabled with the FN + F2 key combination. Also as previously mentioned, double check the BIOS to ensure that the wireless is enabled (default is not enabled) As for the make of the chip for the wireless is an Atheros type. I have 2 Eee 701SD here, both using Lucid netbook edition and the wireless is working just fine! I too have an old WiFi gateway that only uses 40bit WEP (used with MAC filtering as well) so maybe also check (or reset) the password in your WiFi gateway (remember to update password in all other items that use the gateway!) Scott Evans VK7HSE Phone: +61362291658 Mobile: +61417586157 Skype: vk7hse sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org PGP/GPG Key ID 2B8CA152 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2883 - Release Date: 05/19/10 16:26:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Logs for IRC meeting 17-05-2010
Thank you Scott, I have trouble following it in real time. I can study at my leisure.I see most of the folk are on the IRC channel most of the time anyway. From my pint of view it is not the ideal way to attend a meeting... perhaps a better IRC client might help. What is everyone using, Win7 and Linux? Do you have 10.04 0n your 701SD yet? I never managed to get Wireless networking to work under 9.10. Hopefully 10.04 is better. 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 17/05/2010 22:43, Scott Evans wrote: Hello fellow ubuntu-au members... here is the url for the meeting held ... http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-au.20100517_0600.html I was attempting to keep things into subject titles, this I thought to be the best way to try to keep things to a format! Please lets remember that there is now some work to do, and we do need to organise the next meeting time. This will of course be on a Tuesday! Thanks to all that attended Scott Evans VK7HSE Phone: +61362291658 Mobile: +61417586157 Skype: vk7hse sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org PGP/GPG Key ID 2B8CA152 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2876 - Release Date: 05/16/10 04:26:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Formal v Informal structure
Good evening all, Well, I read through the logs of the IRC meeting and finally absorbed it all. Follows a few salient points. 1. My credentials... I have helped a Community Association (aka Progress Association), several Radio Clubs and a number of Professional Associations through the process of formation, incorporation, growth and sadly in one case failure. I have served on the committee of organisations as diverse as the The Mount Hope Community Association (membership 7) and branch of a The Ulysses Club (arguably the largest motorcycle club in the world!) 2. Formal Structure! If we are to formally elect representatives, we should really have some sort of formal membership structure. This ensures that only those who are bona-fide members can vote for their representative, or in fact stand for positions. There is nothing surer, dissent and finger pointing will eventuate at some stage, particularly when passions are stirred. The more formal the rules, the easier such things are resolved. Do you see where I'm going here? Is this what we want? If so, it is achievable. I am happy to provide advice and guidance. 2. Informal Structure, just like we have at present. (A meritocracy. Nice, I like the word). This usually happens when a bunch of like minded people get together and appoint from there numbers, suitable people do do the required jobs. Notice there is no mention of (formal) positions. Such a group is often called a steering committee and generally presages the formation of a larger, more formal group. But not always. Given good faith it is a workable model in it's own right. 3. My own preference is for an Informal model, with a minimum of jobs. Say Contact/liaison person, Webmaster/Wikimaster, mailing list Moderator and a Coordinator. Your milage will undoubtably vary! Okay, enough from the Greybeard. There's my hat in the ring, let's see how many bullet holes it gets :) -- Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Dyslexia IRC
Hi Paul and others, I have in fact got a work-in-progress on this very issue. I've had sixty-something years to sort it out, and my case was pretty mild to start with. My son is not so lucky, 'tho' not as bad as some. Basically, looking at a printed page is chaos, literally, and requires some effort to restore order. Considerable effort in some cases. So much so that by the time you get to reading the last word on a line the first is forgotten, so making sense of it all can be quite draining. Now, consider what happens when the page is chaos to start with! Some IM clients allow you to set a colour for each person. That works like a treat! Having said that, there are more variations and permutations of Dyslexia than we can ever enumerate. It's a pretty individual thing from reading the the odd word backwards (Skabetti is the classic!) to the aforementioned full blown chaos! Some people such as myself, become extremely pedantic about the written word. Others, like my son, cheerfully embrace the chaos. Thank you for asking! Being a community thing, perhaps there is somewhere on Ubuntu I could post some info... or maybe I should blog it myself? Meanwhile... keep all sentences short with one subject and one predicate (look it up :) ) use lotsa dot points for questions leave plenty of white space to break up the chaos. If yu carnt undastand it, reed it owt lowd. :) 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. Paul Gear wrote: Norm, VK3XCI wrote: ... Sorry I wasn't at the meeting. I'm dyslexic and found the random postings VERY hard to follow. Ended up printing out the log and going through it with a couple of hi-lighters. No way I could do it in real time! Hi Norm, Your comment got me thinking - i don't know a lot about dyslexia and what it means for the way dyslexics operate online. I was emailing a dyslexic guy the other week and i inadvertently made it hard for him to understand me due to the way i quoted and the way i phrased my questions. IRC is used very commonly to support Ubuntu, and Free Software in general. Would you be willing to explain a little further how the condition works (especially with respect to email instant messaging/chat) and perhaps suggest what steps we could take to support dyslexic people better? Thanks, Paul No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2760 - Release Date: 03/21/10 06:33:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: A local Shipit service for regional users
G'day, Just some random thoughts in a brainstorm kind of way. I too have been following this thread for a while and wondering where it was leading. I offer the following opinions (mine and mine only!) I too got frustrated with the global shipit service some time ago and have given up on it. I have availed myself of Peter's service, he is prompt and inexpensive. Do we really need to reinvent the wheel? The infrastructure is already in place. At $2.60 I'm happy to bet that Peter is only just covering media, post and packing costs. I don't think he's getting rich off it!!! Perhaps Peter's service is only catering to the already converted? If we want to do a promo for each release, (with free CD and some nice packaging as in Shipit) I would think it comes in around $3.00 to $3.50 per CD shipped singly. While we all love Ubuntu and try to promote it at every opportunity, there has to be a good business case as well. A sponsor would be handy... say a Computer mag or duplication service... someone who's name/logo could be up there on the disk or packaging. A hand labeled generic disk is NOT going to cut it with the local school principal or small business owner. PS... Sorry I wasn't at the meeting. I'm dyslexic and found the random postings VERY hard to follow. Ended up printing out the log and going through it with a couple of hi-lighters. No way I could do it in real time! 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. Jared Norris wrote: Peter, Thanks for the information, with those sorts of numbers I don't think it's really a viable option to run it free permanently to all and sundry (quick calculations in my head, 3 CDs a day, $2 a CD equals ROUGHLY $2000 a year). So unless someone is willing to put up $2000 a year I'd say keep up the good work, obviously I under estimated the willingness of people to pay for the delivery. I would still like to press forward with the free CDs for the Lucid release as a promotional thing for the release to try and get it out there quicker and easier for a limited period of time (pretty much limited by how many orders we get, if we get a large number it will end sooner sort of thing). I was thinking if by the time the release comes around and we have a lot of spare CDs to distribute after the orders have been taken care of we might try and tee up a notice on your website at some stage but I think we can cross that bridge a bit later down the track. If anyone has any ideas how we can get this out to people that would benefit from free CDs for the Lucid release please let me know. Regards, Jared On 18 March 2010 23:37, peter baker jellyw...@gmail.com wrote: hey guys I have been following the discussion on a local Shipit service for regional users with interest. I setup www.ubuntu.net.au a couple of years ago with the aim of making ubuntu available to people who have hassles downloading or burning the distro themsleves. I get quite a few orders from really remote communities, esp in WA so I guess it is doing what it is meant to do. how popular is the service? I get around 30 unique visitors to the site every day. from that I usually get 1 or 2 orders/day. most of the orders come via paypal although I do accept stamps in the mail. I get some lovely comments via letters that people send me. so its not a lot of orders but it is consistent and it is growing so. I think your free aussie shipit service for ubuntu 10.04 is a great idea. I think the thing that is going to slow you down is postage costs, every cd costs $1.10 in postage. I'm happy to provide a description of what you guys are doing and a link on the main page of www.ubuntu.net.au I already link to the download section of ubuntu.com so that people can download their own copy. peter -- www.peter.id.au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2753 - Release Date: 03/18/10 06:33:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Ham Radio Stuff
Good afternoon, I want to run a DOS/Windows based program under Ubuntu on an old laptop. It's called Track, a packet Radio program which outputs to a TNC via the serial port. It runs from a command line and as far as I can see has no entries in the Windows registry. I have nil experience here, what are the options? -- 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Governance New Thread!
Folks, I've had a fair bit to do with committees over a vast range of involvements, from Radio Clubs to rural Progress Associations and Distance Education parent Committees. All have a couple of things in common. Dissent (is that the word you were looking for Scott?) and egos. From an almost outsider (Lurker!) looking in and still involved in radio club committee, I'll make a few observations. ...The best person for the job usually gravitates there(eventually) ...Extraneous positions are often introduced to sooth bruised egos. ...In an Inc. Assoc. a degree of formality is required to satisfy the law. ...Excessive formality kills organisations! ...I'm unsure of Ubuntu-au's formal standing; how much committee do we need? Which begs a few questions ...What is the LoCo's mission? What are we trying to achieve? ...What is the relationship with the Mother Company? ...How is it all funded? ...What are the legal obligations. -- 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: (Business) Applications software
Concur, Gnucash is at best a double entry version of MSMoney, and not as intuitive Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City Brett wrote: I need to find business applications that run on Linux. Can someone suggest where I can find suppliers of such apps as: G/L, Inv, POS, Drs, Crs etc I am an accountant and have looked in vain for a decent accounting program that runs on linux (I have downloaded and checked about 20 of them). GnuCash is a close as you will get, unless you want to use CRM software. If setting up some sort of CRM client/server system is not going to be too big a project for your client, I would recommend going straight to OpenERP or similar, and not bothering with standalone accounting apps. One of the few areas where linux cannot match windows! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2695 - Release Date: 02/18/10 18:34:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Old stuff. Was-Re: Topic Change: Does everyone like the Koala
15 equipment racks, thousands of thermionic valves (ECC81 as I recall) and having to run the bootstrap using toggle switches on the front panel, just to make the card reader work. address:dataload address:dataload address:dataload address:dataload run And the damned thing could only add. Remember 1's complement and add, or was it twos compliment?? Running the CP (Cathode Poison)routine every week to make sure no registers got bit-stuck ALL THOSE PRETTY NEON LIGHTS! Sheesh Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City Phil in the scrub wrote: Much snipped But a *lot* better than the old paper tape and 80 col punched card days eh :) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.68/2507 - Release Date: 11/16/09 19:53:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Topic Change: Does everyone like the Koala
You know, This may sound a little like heresy, but is a new release every 6 months sustainable? Or even necessary? Is it just me or is each new release becoming just a little more buggy? It just seems like they're coming out of a sausage factory with the casings not quite tied off. I keep going back to Hardy for a good experience Perhaps an update pack every six months and stick with the current LTS schedule for mainstream releases? Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City Phil in the scrub wrote: Snip It has its good points and its bad points But becaus eof very real annoyances with sound and wireless and a few other niggles ditched it and went back to Jaunty which is fine . I actualy found the Koala although improve performance and speed somewhat to be a bunch of crap for my needs --- When previous versions work very well and no need to spend whole weekends looking for workarounds only to find that others with same problems also unable to find work arounds I think I shall now stay with the long term releases It appears I am not the only one see http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1210214p=50 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/464591 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305459 Even Ubuntus own poll shows 18% had to do medium tweaking Further 18% have problems with as yet no ubuntu solution see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924 However, still like Ubuntu (as well as other distro's ) Just think I will skip 3 out 4 releases from now on :) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.67/2505 - Release Date: 11/15/09 19:50:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: I'm leaving also...
Guys (and Girls) Please don't be so precipitate... I simply added the topic and a couple of the correspondents to my junk filter and quick as a flash, no more problems. Rather than leave the list, why don't you do the same? Perhaps the Mod might think about the same?? Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City Chris Jones wrote: Sadly, I'll be following suit as Skythra and subscribing to this mailing list. Whatever happened to the good old days of community spirit when it comes to Ubuntu/Linux Development. There was a time where development of Ubuntu and any other Linux Projects outside of the norm were encouraged. We seemed to have bred a generation of Ubuntu Fan Boys who refuse to take off the tin foil hat for a second and view the bigger picture. And I'd also suggest some of you (no names mentioned) take a look at the Ubuntu Code of Conduct and think about it deeply as you've obviously never read and signed it! See you on the better side folks. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2503 - Release Date: 11/14/09 19:42:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Gpredict... bad keps
This is one for you hams you know who you are :) Just downloaded the latest keps of the internet and I'm getting some crazy Next Pass predictions for ISS. Anyone else??? -- Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Tonites meeting
Thought I'd sent this... dunno where it went tho' it didn't appear in my own inbox Subject: Re: ubuntu-au team meeting tues 14th july From: Norm njmcmil...@aanet.com.au Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:13:03 +1000 To: ubuntu-au-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com G'day all, Don't often get the chance to join the meetings, and this time of the year is worse! I would be happy to see it postponed, 'though I do have some thoughts engendered by a couple off recent events. Y'know how Windows, Office, etc users always seem to have a go-to-guy they can get help from? Like the bloke/blokess down the street whom they can ring for help? Maybe someone from school/college/work? Well we don't have that sort of penetration into the community at that basic user level. If we want to take Ubuntu and OOo in particular to the next level of public acceptance we need to find those sort of go-to-people. I look forward to an animated discussion, if not this month then next. Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City peter baker wrote: hey guys according to our meeting team wiki we should have a monthly meeting tomorrow night, tues 14th july https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings there are no agenda items at the moment, so I propose we skip the meeting this month and resume next month, on the second tuesday what do people think? peter -- www.peter.id.au http://www.peter.id.au No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: 07/13/09 17:57:00 -- Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Application problem
Regrettably, Linux in general is not as well behaved as Windows in this regard. You should find the executable in /user/bin I think. At least that's where mine is. Use the Main Menu editor to put it into Accessories. In my old version Ubuntu 8.04 it's under System Preferences Main Menu and follow the prompts. Pretty similar to the Windows Create Shortcut dialogue Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City Geoffrey wrote: I recently downloaded a Linux (Ubuntu?) program called Xlog (it's a ham radio logging program). This seemed to go well and the program appears under Add?Remove application as in the Accessories category and installed. However it is not listed under Accessories not can I find with Search any file with the name or part-name Xlog. I've had difficulty in learning details about the program and therefore cannot even confirm that it is written for the GNOME desktop. Q: Would someone please advise how to go about searching for this program using a command at Terminal? Geoffrey Combes No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: 07/04/09 17:55:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ALT+LEFT_CLICK + Drag doesn't work
Thank you Scott, The install isn't quite how I wanted it anyway. I wanted to to put /home and swap on the SD card. I'll do a fresh install, apply the patches and then reboot. Norm McMillan VK3XCI Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City Scott Evans wrote: Hi Norm... There are three patch fixes you need to apply to UNR for use with the Eee 701/901 (and maybe others) these fix the tile issue (for I915 chip VGA) and the desktop switcher (resolves broken panels after reboot) please refer to lanuchpad bugs Bug #349314 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apw/lp349314-jaunty/linux-headers-2.6.28-11_2.6.28-11.43~lp349314apw5_all.deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~apw/lp349314-jaunty/linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic_2.6.28-11.43~lp349314apw5_i386.deb Bug #349519 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26020903/desktop-switcher_0.4.6_i386.deb Unfortunately the damage done by the desktop switcher you'll have to resolve by either creating a fresh user or delete/rename all relevant GNOME configuration to get a default setting back before you will be able to use the newer version of the desktop switcher! *Scott Evans VK7HSE* *Phone: +61362291658* *Mobile: +61417586157* *Skype: vk7hse* *sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org mailto:sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org* *http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org/* *PGP/GPG Key ID 74639624* -- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.5/2083 - Release Date: 04/27/09 18:00:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
ALT+LEFT_CLICK + Drag doesn't work
G'day all, Installed Jaunty Netbook Remix last night on eeePC 701SD. I'm pretty sure everything worked OK when I shut it down. When I booted this morning the Gnome panel had gone missing, (fixed) webcam wasn't recognised (fixed) and the ALT+LEFT_CLICK + Drag no longer functions. NOT fixed. Now it may be that they are related and I have simply hidden the underlying problem. Alas, I have no clue where to start loking. All help appreciated. PS. Just rebooted the Live version, it works OK so no hardware problem -- Norm McMillan Mildura, Australia. The Wintersun City -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Ham Radio Echolink client
Does anyone know of an Echolink client for UBUNTU, or GNU Linux at all for that matter. Seems to be strangely absent -- Regards from Norm Norm McMillan Mildura, Victoria. Australia -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
multi soundcards
Good afternoon, Xubuntu 7.10 on an Intel SE440BX-2 mobo, PIII 500 CPU, 384M of ram. I want to run 2 sound cards to run 2 ham radio applications, Xastir and FBB. Sound cards are ESS Solo-1 and Creative Model CT4810 (CT5880 chipset). Ubuntu seems happy to find the SOLO-1, but no immediate sign of the Creative. I'm off to find a Howto right now, but some guidence would be appreciated Norm -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Linux In Federal government
In my opinion now would be a good time to start lobbying the federal government to use Linux to cut costs. What with interest rates on the rise and the share market taking a dive money is going to be tight. I have talked to the electrol offices of Graham Perret my local member and Wayne Swans office. It would be great if more people put in the two cents worth. Conical should also be encouraged to have a go because it is in there interest as well. Regards Norm -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au