Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...
I reported a crash in Synaptic yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/355415 Now, the Apport retrace service invalidated this bug because I don't have scrollkeeper installed. But scrollkeeper is deprecated and replaced by rarian-compat (which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop). Also, Synaptic installs works just fine *without* scrollkeeper. Seems like something is wrong with the retrace service, and I wonder how many legitimate crasher bugs have been invalidated because of this? I really hope not too many other packages are impacted, and I think it might be useful to have a look at the invalidated bugs reported against those packages... PS: I'd be happy to file a bug about this, but I'm not sure where to file it (launchpad, apport-retrace, somewhere else?). -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...
On Sunday 05 April 2009 08:21:53 Jan Claeys wrote: I reported a crash in Synaptic yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/355415 Now, the Apport retrace service invalidated this bug because I don't have scrollkeeper installed. But scrollkeeper is deprecated and replaced by rarian-compat (which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop). Also, Synaptic installs works just fine *without* scrollkeeper. This sounds very similar to the this bug I reported recently: https://launchpad.net/bugs/341358 Seems like something is wrong with the retrace service, and I wonder how many legitimate crasher bugs have been invalidated because of this? I really hope not too many other packages are impacted, and I think it might be useful to have a look at the invalidated bugs reported against those packages... Apport consistently rejected at least crasher bugs in kdebluetooth4, which was crashing on suspend/resume. As you can see from IRC log, it seems that retracing service does not select | dependancies correctly (expects the first one to be installed). Regards, Luka -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...
Op zondag 05-04-2009 om 09:40 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Luka Renko: On Sunday 05 April 2009 08:21:53 Jan Claeys wrote: I reported a crash in Synaptic yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/355415 Now, the Apport retrace service invalidated this bug because I don't have scrollkeeper installed. But scrollkeeper is deprecated and replaced by rarian-compat (which is a dependency of ubuntu-desktop). Also, Synaptic installs works just fine *without* scrollkeeper. This sounds very similar to the this bug I reported recently: https://launchpad.net/bugs/341358 I had already filed a bug too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/355481 (I've marked it as a duplicate of your report.) I see you were also concerned about other crasher bugs being hidden, but according to Martin those bug reports have useless stacktraces anyway. Maybe the stacktrace is useless, but the number of such crashes might be important too (Synaptic has been crashing like that for some time now), or maybe there is a reason why the stacktraces are like that? Seems like something is wrong with the retrace service, and I wonder how many legitimate crasher bugs have been invalidated because of this? I really hope not too many other packages are impacted, and I think it might be useful to have a look at the invalidated bugs reported against those packages... Apport consistently rejected at least crasher bugs in kdebluetooth4, which was crashing on suspend/resume. As you can see from IRC log, it seems that retracing service does not select | dependancies correctly (expects the first one to be installed). I was already suspecting something like that, but Synaptic doesn't use |. I think in this case the problem is that rarian-compat replaces, conflicts provides the scrollkeeper package, while synaptic has a dependency on scrollkeeper, and ubuntu-desktop has a dependency on rarian-compat. -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Apport retrace service invalidates valid crasher bugs...
Luka Renko [2009-04-05 9:40 +0200]: This sounds very similar to the this bug I reported recently: https://launchpad.net/bugs/341358 Indeed it is the same reason. I'll work on this ASAP. At least the impact is not that big, since it only rejects those crashes if the retrace is really unusable (majority of functions unknown in Stacktrace). Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
