Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Two Broken Packages Prevent Updates After Upgrade

2024-08-24 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
Upgrades aren't supported yet, and for good reason as you just found 
out. The upgrade tool is simply not ready. Upgrades to 24.04 are enabled 
only when 24.04.1 is released. See 
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-1-point-release-delayed-until-august-29/47110 
for details. See 
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-24-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/46972 
for status tracking.


On 8/24/24 07:51, wmicha...@fuse.net wrote:
I just used the upgrade tool to upgrade Ubuntu Studio 22.04 to 24.04, 
standard KDE desktop. The system boots and runs, but is blocking 
hundreds of updates because two packages are labeled as having unmet 
dependencies. Unfortunately, the package versions that are installed 
are the only ones available:
The following packages have unmet dependencies: libfontconfig1 : 
Depends: fontconfig-config (>= 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2) libfontconfig1:i386 
: Depends: fontconfig-config:i386 (>= 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2) E: Unmet 
dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or 
specify a solution). Running apt --fix-broken install with no packages does nothing. Synaptic shows fontconfig-config 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2

andfontconfig-config:i386 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2 as both the installed and latest 
versions. Can someone suggest where
I can go from here? Thanks in advance.


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[ubuntu-studio-users] Two Broken Packages Prevent Updates After Upgrade

2024-08-24 Thread wmichaelb

  
I just used the upgrade tool to upgrade Ubuntu Studio 22.04 to 24.04, standard 
KDE desktop. The system boots and runs, but is blocking hundreds of updates 
because two packages are labeled as having unmet dependencies. Unfortunately, 
the package versions that are installed are the only ones available: 
  
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libfontconfig1 : Depends: 
fontconfig-config (>= 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2) libfontconfig1:i386 : Depends: 
fontconfig-config:i386 (>= 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2) E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt 
--fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). 
Running apt --fix-broken install with no packages does nothing. Synaptic shows 
fontconfig-config 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2 
and fontconfig-config:i386 2.15.0-1.1ubuntu2 as both the installed and latest 
versions. Can someone suggest where 
I can go from here? Thanks in advance.   
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search

2022-07-04 Thread RW Jones


Thanks for that.

Regarding Scantailor Advanced, I will likely explore the link you provided 
as I'm most familiar with that fork/version of ST, but for completeness I 
mention the following different version which I just discovered 
accidentally:


Scantailor Universal (self-desribes as "a fork based on 
Enhanced+Featured+Master versions of ST").



https://github.com/trufanov-nok/scantailor-universal/releases

<<<
Ubuntu-compatible OS (18.04+) users may get scantailor-universal package 
and its updates automatically by subscribing to this ppa:


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:truf/scantailor-universal
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt install scantailor-universal

The attached deb files are for Ubuntu 18.04 (build without exiv2 support) 
and 19.04+ (ICC profile propagation enabled)




I can't see any MS Windows binaries to try so if ST Advanced can't be 
added to repository in due course I may try ST Universal instead if it's 
stil there and compatible with current Ubuntu LTS, though its components 
appear to antedate ST Advanced which itself was a major work of 
improvement.


Regards,


Robert Jones


On Sun, 26 Jun 2022, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:


Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 16:09:25 -0700
From: Erich Eickmeyer 
Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users 
To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor;
 Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc,
and (C) mail-list archives search



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search

2022-06-26 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
Hello Robert,

On Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:27:33 PM PDT RW Jones wrote:
> Keywords: graphics; document scanning; Scantailor Advanced; Tesseract-ocr;
> DjVuLibre; pdftk; LibreOffice Calc; default packages; mail-list search

Completely unnecessary in a mailing list, for future reference. :)

> 
> I'm now subscribed to the list and was briefly surveying Ubuntu Studio as
> a possible Linux flavour for a dual-boot with Windows 7 and/or 10 laptops.
> 
> Main interest graphics: scanning / post-scan processing.
> 
> 
> (A) Base package additions?
> Just wondered if there is any appetite for adding to the basic Ubuntu Studio
> main distribution or Ubuntu Studio Installer for use with eg Xubuntu the
> following scan post-processing tools (e.g. optical character recognition;
> cleaning up scanned images; DjVu and pdftk tools) which I've used for some
> years under MS Windows - Studio's standard complement has much on
> audio/video but less coverage on scanning:
>
> i) Scantailor Advanced (a current version that merges the features of the
> ScanTailor Featured and ScanTailor Enhanced versions, the latter two being
> it seems no longer developed):
> https://github.com/4lex4/scantailor-advanced/

There's something you need to know: Ubuntu Studio is not its own distribution, 
but 
is an offically-recognized alternate configuration of Ubuntu. Therefore, 
everything 
we do revolves around Ubuntu and Debian packaging and packaging procedures.

If something is no longer being developed, it's very unlikely you'll find 
anyone to 
package it. As for what is being developed, right now I'm not sure I'm in a 
spot to 
take-on any additional package maintenance myself, but there are definitely 
ways 
to get things packaged and sponsored.

For further info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages[1]

> ii) tesseract-ocr for document optical character recognition and pdf
> assembly etc; see e.g.:
> https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tessdoc

This is already in the repositories and is utilized by a lot of software: 
https://
launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tesseract[2]

> iii) DjVuLibre suite preferably including DjView v.4.10.4 as it can export
> from DjVu to pdf rather than just to postscript:
> http://djvu.sourceforge.net/

Oh yes, it's definitely a thing in the software repos: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/
+source/djvulibre[3]

> iv) pdftk for operations on pdf including fixing bookmarks etc:
> https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-server/

Yes, that one is also there: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdftk[4]

> Obviously I imagine I could in due course explore adding these myself to an
> installation if I proceeded but just wanted minimise the learning curve and
> thought of asking here in case others might find it useful to have one or
> more of these added to the default package list.
> 
> 
> (B) LibreOffice Calc and Database:
> I note a commenter stating at
> https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntustudio
> 
> "Would have given a 10 But they did not include Libreoffice Calc and
> Database? Why Not ??? I use them often."
> 
> I personally concur at least as regards OpenOffice Calc being included in
> (restored to?) the default package list.

We removed Calc them from Ubuntu Studio's ISO (but not Ubuntu as a whole) to 
save space on the ISO image because the ISO image was failing to build before I 
got 
the entirety of Ubuntu to start using ISO level 3 which allows for ISO images 
larger 
than 4 GB . It has been added back to Kinetic Kudu, future 22.10.  A slight 
oversight, 
but it's easily reinstalled. We have never carried Base in the default 
installation (at 
least not during my tenure) as it did not fit with the Audio/Video/Photography/
Graphics paradigm. Of course, these components are still in the software 
repositories and are trivial to install.

> 
> (C) Ubuntu Studio mail archive - search function?
> 
> I can't see a search function for Ubuntu Studio, so apologies if this has
> been discussed before but was not found by me:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/
> 
> Is a seach function somewhere else? Looked but cannot find.
> 
> Debian users mail list has a support function; one example:
> https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=scantailor&DEFAULTOP=or&B=Gdebian-> 
> user&SORT=&HITSPERPAGE=10
> 

Again, this is a situation where we, as an official flavor, we are given 
infrastructure 
by Canonical, but have no say in what systems are in place.

Thanks for the questions, and I hope I've covered everything.

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[ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search

2022-06-26 Thread RW Jones


Keywords: graphics; document scanning; Scantailor Advanced; Tesseract-ocr; 
DjVuLibre; pdftk; LibreOffice Calc; default packages; mail-list search



I'm now subscribed to the list and was briefly surveying Ubuntu Studio as 
a possible Linux flavour for a dual-boot with Windows 7 and/or 10 laptops.


Main interest graphics: scanning / post-scan processing.


(A) Base package additions?
Just wondered if there is any appetite for adding to the basic Ubuntu Studio 
main distribution or Ubuntu Studio Installer for use with eg Xubuntu the 
following scan post-processing tools (e.g. optical character recognition; 
cleaning up scanned images; DjVu and pdftk tools) which I've used for some 
years under MS Windows - Studio's standard complement has much on audio/video 
but less coverage on scanning:


i) Scantailor Advanced (a current version that merges the features of the 
ScanTailor Featured and ScanTailor Enhanced versions, the latter two being it 
seems no longer developed):

https://github.com/4lex4/scantailor-advanced/

ii) tesseract-ocr for document optical character recognition and pdf assembly 
etc; see e.g.:

https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tessdoc

iii) DjVuLibre suite preferably including DjView v.4.10.4 as it can export from 
DjVu to pdf rather than just to postscript:

http://djvu.sourceforge.net/

iv) pdftk for operations on pdf including fixing bookmarks etc:
https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-server/


Obviously I imagine I could in due course explore adding these myself to an 
installation if I proceeded but just wanted minimise the learning curve and 
thought of asking here in case others might find it useful to have one or more 
of these added to the default package list.



(B) LibreOffice Calc and Database:
I note a commenter stating at
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntustudio

"Would have given a 10 But they did not include Libreoffice Calc and Database? 
Why Not ??? I use them often."


I personally concur at least as regards OpenOffice Calc being included in 
(restored to?) the default package list.



(C) Ubuntu Studio mail archive - search function?

I can't see a search function for Ubuntu Studio, so apologies if this has been 
discussed before but was not found by me:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/

Is a seach function somewhere else? Looked but cannot find.

Debian users mail list has a support function; one example:
https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=scantailor&DEFAULTOP=or&B=Gdebian-user&SORT=&HITSPERPAGE=10


Regards,



Robert Jones





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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Two packages to install

2016-06-22 Thread brian
  

Hi Anthony2020, 

when I installed the restricted-extras package I
noticed that the flashplugin-installer was updated too. The other files
have been installed, too. (I'm using Synaptic too, in this particular
case.) 

brian 

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:59:03 +0100, Do Dah wrote: 

>
Hey Brian.
> 
> Good Choice in OS.
> 
> You should install the
following:
> 
> libdvdread
> 
> libdvdcss2
> 
> Also I could not enjoy
linux so much without having a current and updated version of Synaptic
Package Manager installed. If the above two packages are not enough - go
into synaptic and have a rummage around with some of the Gstreamer
packages and make sure your adobe flash is up to date.
> 
> Best
> 
>
Anthony2020

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[ubuntu-studio-users] Two packages to install

2016-06-22 Thread Do Dah
Hey Brian.

Good Choice in OS.

You should install the following:

libdvdread

libdvdcss2

Also I could not enjoy linux so much without having a current and updated
version of Synaptic Package Manager installed. If the above two packages
are not enough - go into synaptic and have a rummage around with some of
the Gstreamer packages and make sure your adobe flash is up to date.

Best

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[ubuntu-studio-users] xaralx on 14.04 packages not working

2014-07-11 Thread Washington Indacochea
xaralx on 14.04 packages not working. I install the package and not 
working, I run on a terminal and said this:


wachin@wachin-id:~$ xaralx
xaralx: relocation error: xaralx: symbol _ZTV19wxGnomePrintFactory, 
version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 with link 
time reference



But this package working fine:

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/19865993/dir/pclinuxos/com/xara-extreme-0.7-1pclos2010.i586.rpm.html

xara-extreme-0.7-1pclos2010.i586.rpm

 convert with Alien:

sudo alien xara-extreme-0.7-1pclos2010.i586.rpm

For 14.04 is need:

libjpeg62
libtiff4

But libtiff4  is no longer on 14.04, but you can download from saucey rep:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/libtiff4


I use UbuntuStudio 14.04 x386, do you can add to 14.04 this package?  
should not be a ubuntu package that does not work




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-21 Thread Pete Wright
Thanks, all.
I am now pretty clear on what to worry about or not.
I am now in full Alfred E. Neuman mode ("What, me worry?) and proceeding
with incaution.
Thanks again for all the insights.
Pete


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 17:27 +0200, Pablo Fernandez wrote:
> > PPA repositories' lines are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. They are, as
> > plain text files, ending with ".list"  under
> > the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory.
> >
> >
> > A more appropiate command to see the repos is:
> >
> > cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
> >
> >
> > Or, to print just the active repos (all of them), filter out the lines
> > that are commented out:
> >
> >
> > cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v "#"
> >
> >
> > You can comment out lines if you edit these files but I suggest you
> > should use Software Center or Synaptic to enable / disable repos.
> >
> >
> > In my experience, multiverse and universe are trustworthy repos and
> > most PPA's too. That said, I disable PPA's after installing some
> > packages that I want to have more up to date.
>
> Oops, than Pete can ignore my previous mail regarding to "partners" and
> "restricted" :D.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf


On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 17:27 +0200, Pablo Fernandez wrote:
> PPA repositories' lines are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. They are, as
> plain text files, ending with ".list"  under
> the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. 
> 
> 
> A more appropiate command to see the repos is:
> 
> cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
> 
> 
> Or, to print just the active repos (all of them), filter out the lines
> that are commented out:
> 
> 
> cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v "#"
> 
> 
> You can comment out lines if you edit these files but I suggest you
> should use Software Center or Synaptic to enable / disable repos.
> 
> 
> In my experience, multiverse and universe are trustworthy repos and
> most PPA's too. That said, I disable PPA's after installing some
> packages that I want to have more up to date.

Oops, than Pete can ignore my previous mail regarding to "partners" and
"restricted" :D.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 07:41 -0700, Pete Wright wrote:
> how do I "uncomment" if I choose to?

You can use Synaptic to do it, I'm not booted to Ubuntu now, so I can't
explain how to do it, search the menus, I guess it's self explaining.

You also can use an editor, e.g.

sudo gedit

or if available better

gksudo gedit

Use the "#" to uncomment an entry, an example:

Enabled:

deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted

Disabled, resp. uncommented:

# deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted

Everything behind a "#" is only a comment.

Perhaps (likely) "partner" or (less likely) "restricted"  cause the
warnings.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-21 Thread Pete Wright
t;
>>> run in a terminal emulation will show if you're using a PPA or not.
>>>
>>>
>
> PPA repositories' lines are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. They are, as
> plain text files, ending with ".list"  under the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
> directory.
>
> A more appropiate command to see the repos is:
>
> cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
>
> Or, to print just the active repos (all of them), filter out the lines
> that are commented out:
>
> cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v "#"
>
> You can comment out lines if you edit these files but I suggest you should
> use Software Center or Synaptic to enable / disable repos.
>
> In my experience, multiverse and universe are trustworthy repos and most
> PPA's too. That said, I disable PPA's after installing some packages that I
> want to have more up to date.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-21 Thread Pablo Fernandez
Hi Pete, Ralf, ubuntu users! My English is not very good but some comments
follow at the bottom

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Pete Wright  wrote:

> Thanks, Ralf
> The list is reproduced below. BTW, how do I "uncomment" if I choose to?
> I can't think of anything I changed since the last update, so I am still
> confused about getting this warning now.
> Pete
> pete@pete-GM5457E:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Studio 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release i386
> (20121017.1)]/ quantal main multiverse restricted universe
>
> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
> # newer versions of the distribution.
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted
>
> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
> ## distribution.
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates main restricted
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates main
> restricted
>
> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
> ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
> ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring universe
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring universe
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates universe
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates universe
>
> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the
> Ubuntu
> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as
> to
> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
> ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
> ## security team.
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring multiverse
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring multiverse
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates multiverse
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates multiverse
>
> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-backports main restricted
> universe multiverse
> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-backports main
> restricted universe multiverse
>
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security main restricted
> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security main restricted
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security universe
> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security universe
> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security multiverse
> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security multiverse
>
> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
> ## 'partner' repository.
> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
> ## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
> # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
>
> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Ubuntu's
> ## 'extras' repository.
> ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
> ## developers who want to ship their latest software.
> deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main
> # deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main
> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
> pete@pete-GM5457E:~$
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Ralf Mardorf 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 15:45 -0700, Pete Wright wrote:
>> > I didn't think I had any unsupported ppa
>>
>> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>>
>> run in a terminal emulation will show if you're using a PPA or not.
>>
>>

PPA repositories' lines are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. They are, as
plain text files, ending with ".list"  under the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
directory.

A more appropiate command to see the repos is:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*

Or, to print just the active repos (all of them), filter out the lines that
are commented out:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v "#"

You can comment out 

Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-21 Thread Pete Wright
Thanks, Ralf
The list is reproduced below. BTW, how do I "uncomment" if I choose to?
I can't think of anything I changed since the last update, so I am still
confused about getting this warning now.
Pete
pete@pete-GM5457E:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Studio 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ - Release i386
(20121017.1)]/ quantal main multiverse restricted universe

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates main restricted
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring universe
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring universe
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates universe
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates universe

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## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
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## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring multiverse
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring multiverse
deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates multiverse
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates multiverse

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deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-backports main restricted
universe multiverse
deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-backports main
restricted universe multiverse

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring-security multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
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deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner

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# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main
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>
> On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 15:45 -0700, Pete Wright wrote:
> > I didn't think I had any unsupported ppa
>
> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> run in a terminal emulation will show if you're using a PPA or not.
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 15:45 -0700, Pete Wright wrote:
> I didn't think I had any unsupported ppa

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

run in a terminal emulation will show if you're using a PPA or not.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Wright
Thanks, all.
I didn't think I had any unsupported ppa but I am wracking my puny brain to
see what it might be (thought it was the chromium, but I guess not).
I will mess about and report back later.
grins
Pete


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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Pete Wright  wrote:
>
>> Today's update is telling me that to update it will have to install
>> "untrusted packages" and download from "unauthenticated" sources.
>> The list looks like the usual suspects.
>> On a scale of 1 to 5 how worried should I be (where 1 is flat-out
>> paranoia and 5 is fuggeddaboudid)?
>> Pete (constantly being reborn as a newbie because stuff keeps changing
>> out from under me)
>>
>
> the short answer is like this.. PPA's and unsupported packages and sources
> are just that.. unsupported. if you trust the creator/maintainer of these
> packages and/or sources, then you can trust them. i use PPA's to add
> packages routinely, but i do read and understand the risks involved. no one
> here can tell you if the sources you have added are trustworthy... if you
> are having "issues", consider purging the ppa's you have added and get the
> system stable and go from there.. cheers!
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-20 Thread Mike Holstein
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Pete Wright  wrote:

> Today's update is telling me that to update it will have to install
> "untrusted packages" and download from "unauthenticated" sources.
> The list looks like the usual suspects.
> On a scale of 1 to 5 how worried should I be (where 1 is flat-out paranoia
> and 5 is fuggeddaboudid)?
> Pete (constantly being reborn as a newbie because stuff keeps changing out
> from under me)
>

the short answer is like this.. PPA's and unsupported packages and sources
are just that.. unsupported. if you trust the creator/maintainer of these
packages and/or sources, then you can trust them. i use PPA's to add
packages routinely, but i do read and understand the risks involved. no one
here can tell you if the sources you have added are trustworthy... if you
are having "issues", consider purging the ppa's you have added and get the
system stable and go from there.. cheers!


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Post the output of

cat /etc/apt/sources.list


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Wright
Hi, Ralf
I don't know how to tell which.
I unchecked Chromium and tried again and got the same message.
Do I have to do the whole list the same way, one at a time, to find out?



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

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Which packages, from what repositories caused those warnings?


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[ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Wright
Today's update is telling me that to update it will have to install
"untrusted packages" and download from "unauthenticated" sources.
The list looks like the usual suspects.
On a scale of 1 to 5 how worried should I be (where 1 is flat-out paranoia
and 5 is fuggeddaboudid)?
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Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 15:59 -0300, Rivera Valdez wrote:
> Hey, nice tips for synaptic. Thanks, people! :D

It works like a charm, but one time a dialog interrupted the install. I
had to answer, if jack should be set up for real-time mode.

I didn't reboot, I even didn't log out and in and also didn't copy
anything from my Ubuntu Studio Quantal's /home to Ubuntu
Quantal's /home, but Evolution already had bad colors.
This is fixed by
http://askubuntu.com/questions/204390/evolution-the-background-of-messages-is-always-grey

Beyond that Evolution still works.

I hope it won't get borked, if I set up anything else. If somebody
shouldn't be aware abut the reason why I switched from Ubuntu Studio
Quantal to Ubuntu Quantal, it's because some desktop things are broken
for the Ubuntu Studio install, e.g. Evolution doesn't work for Ubuntu
Studio, but for Ubuntu.

First thing I'll do is add a test user and copy my Ubuntu Studio
Quantal's /home to the Ubuntu Quantal test user's /home.

The wanted WM already is running
spinymouse@q:~$ pidof compiz
spinymouse@q:~$ pidof xfwm4
2467
and indeed the theme and window sliders already have changed.

Regards,
Ralf
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Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Rivera Valdez
Hey, nice tips for synaptic. Thanks, people! :D


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wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:57:17 +0100, Pietro Bergamo <
> bergamopie...@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
>
>  Hi, there is this a tool called Booster that generates scripts for
>> installing the packages you want.
>>
>> Take a look at http://www.irajacic.com/
>>
>> Worked fine for me.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Pietro
>>
>
> Thank you :)
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Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 14:57:17 +0100, Pietro Bergamo  
 wrote:


Hi, there is this a tool called Booster that generates scripts for  
installing the packages you want.


Take a look at http://www.irajacic.com/

Worked fine for me.

Best regards,
Pietro


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Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Pietro Bergamo
Hi, there is this a tool called Booster that generates scripts for installing 
the packages you want.

Take a look at http://www.irajacic.com/

Worked fine for me.

Best regards,
Pietro



>
> De: Andrew Huys 
>Para: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com 
>Enviadas: Terça-feira, 20 de Novembro de 2012 11:14
>Assunto: Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another 
>install?
> 
>
>
>
>On 11/20/2012 05:43 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>I don't get desktop issues for Ubuntu Quantal amd64 [1]. I now will
install all packages I installed for Ubuntu STUDIO Quantal amd64. Any
hints how to do it the easiest way are welcome. Regards,
Ralf [1] 
>>From: Ralf Mardorf  To: 
>>xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [solved] [xubuntu-users] Several 
>>issues with Quantal,
especially with Evolution
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:31:40 +0100 On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 12:34 +0100, Ralf 
Mardorf wrote: 
>>>Since Evolution completely is broken on my install, I didn't test the
following. However, perhaps this does help somebody else: 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/204390/evolution-the-background-of-messages-is-always-grey
 
>>>I'm not sure if Ubuntu Studio Quantal from the install media is really a
Xubuntu install + a little customization only. I installed Ubuntu
Quantal + Xfce and for that install Evolution does work, I also don't
get strange empty .goutputstream-* files at shutdown anymore. No trick
is needed to correct colors, since all colors are ok. I'll backup Ubuntu 
Quantal now and then set it up as an audio
workstation, by
$ dpkg --get-selections > debs_ubuntu_q.txt
and doing the same for my Ubuntu Studio install and then by installing
using some output from a diff or similar.
Any hints (better ideas) are welcome. I'll also use as much as possible
from /home/user. Regards,
Ralf 
Synaptic has an option to save your package state:  [File]>[Save markings 
as...] in the dialog, check [Save full state, not only changes] and save the 
file to some external media.  Boot into the other OS, open Synaptic, 
[File]>[Read markings] and you should be good to go.
>
>I'm sure that there is a way to generate a script nongraphically,
but I've never tried.  Synaptic is the only way I know how.
>
>Hope this helps,
>AndHuys
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Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 08:14 -0500, Andrew Huys wrote:
> Synaptic has an option to save your package state:  [File]>[Save
> markings as...] in the dialog, check [Save full state, not only
> changes] and save the file to some external media.  Boot into the
> other OS, open Synaptic, [File]>[Read markings] and you should be good
> to go.
> 
> I'm sure that there is a way to generate a script nongraphically, but
> I've never tried.  Synaptic is the only way I know how.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> AndHuys

Thank you :)

I like synaptic.

Regards,
Ralf




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Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Andrew Huys


On 11/20/2012 05:43 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

I don't get desktop issues for Ubuntu Quantal amd64 [1]. I now will
install all packages I installed for Ubuntu STUDIO Quantal amd64. Any
hints how to do it the easiest way are welcome.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]

From: Ralf Mardorf 
To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [solved] [xubuntu-users] Several issues with Quantal,
especially with Evolution
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:31:40 +0100

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 12:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Since Evolution completely is broken on my install, I didn't test the
following. However, perhaps this does help somebody else:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/204390/evolution-the-background-of-messages-is-always-grey

I'm not sure if Ubuntu Studio Quantal from the install media is really a
Xubuntu install + a little customization only. I installed Ubuntu
Quantal + Xfce and for that install Evolution does work, I also don't
get strange empty .goutputstream-* files at shutdown anymore. No trick
is needed to correct colors, since all colors are ok.

I'll backup Ubuntu Quantal now and then set it up as an audio
workstation, by
$ dpkg --get-selections > debs_ubuntu_q.txt
and doing the same for my Ubuntu Studio install and then by installing
using some output from a diff or similar.
Any hints (better ideas) are welcome. I'll also use as much as possible
from /home/user.

Regards,
Ralf


Synaptic has an option to save your package state:  [File]>[Save 
markings as...] in the dialog, check [Save full state, not only changes] 
and save the file to some external media.  Boot into the other OS, open 
Synaptic, [File]>[Read markings] and you should be good to go.


I'm sure that there is a way to generate a script nongraphically, but 
I've never tried.  Synaptic is the only way I know how.


Hope this helps,
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How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?

2012-11-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I don't get desktop issues for Ubuntu Quantal amd64 [1]. I now will
install all packages I installed for Ubuntu STUDIO Quantal amd64. Any
hints how to do it the easiest way are welcome.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
> From: Ralf Mardorf 
> To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: [solved] [xubuntu-users] Several issues with Quantal,
> especially with Evolution
> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:31:40 +0100
> 
> On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 12:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Since Evolution completely is broken on my install, I didn't test the
> > following. However, perhaps this does help somebody else:
> > 
> > http://askubuntu.com/questions/204390/evolution-the-background-of-messages-is-always-grey
> 
> I'm not sure if Ubuntu Studio Quantal from the install media is really a
> Xubuntu install + a little customization only. I installed Ubuntu
> Quantal + Xfce and for that install Evolution does work, I also don't
> get strange empty .goutputstream-* files at shutdown anymore. No trick
> is needed to correct colors, since all colors are ok.
> 
> I'll backup Ubuntu Quantal now and then set it up as an audio
> workstation, by
> $ dpkg --get-selections > debs_ubuntu_q.txt
> and doing the same for my Ubuntu Studio install and then by installing
> using some output from a diff or similar.
> Any hints (better ideas) are welcome. I'll also use as much as possible
> from /home/user.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf


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Making Xubuntu 11.10 + Ubuntu Studio packages look like Ubuntu Studio 11.04

2011-10-23 Thread Icy EyeG
Hi!
I know that Ubuntu Studio Xfce transition isn't completed yet until 12.04,
but in the meanwhile you can make Xubuntu look like Ubuntu Studio 11.04.
I'd love to see this done for Ubuntu Studio 12.04 because the it'd bring
layout consistency across all versions despite moving to xfce.
I'm not going to talk about theming though, because there is no xfce ubuntu
studio theme yet for Xfwm4.

All you have to do is install xfce4-goodies package and, if you want to edit
the applications menu, install alacarte.
Then delete the bottom panel and replace it with a new one with the same
properties as the top panel (ie, 24 px size). Don't forget to lock it on
bottom.
Finally distribute the following plugins on the panels:
Panel 1
- Applications Menu (you can change the icon and add "Applications" text in
the menu properties
- Places Menu (select on properties to show the text "Places", without icon)
- Separator
- Launcher (add Firefox here)
- Separator (select "expand" on its properties)
- Notification Area
- Indicator Plugin
- Separator
- Clock
- Separator
- Session Menu

Panel 2
- Show Desktop
- Separator
- Windows Buttons
- Separator
- Workspace switcher (set 4 workspaces in a single row in properties)

That's it. Note that there is no Trashcan plugin, so I couldn't add it last
on the Panel 2.

It'd be awesome to see Nautilus and Compiz (using Xfwm4 only) integrated by
default. I'm trying to do it, but there are caveats that aren't solved yet,
I think (GTK3 theming doesn't work well - need to add it manually; Nautilus
doesn't work with the places plugin). Apparently GTK3 integration in Xfce
will happen only in 1.5 years (
http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22575#p22575).
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Re: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-11-14 Thread bart . deruyter

Hi,

I've added a workflow to the list 'Making a music publication'. I've put it  
in the graphic tasks, because it is not just for reading music, also for  
writing an educational book for example, with lots of graphics and text. If  
it must be moved, let me know.


grtz,
Bart

Op schreef Eric Hedekar :


On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com>  
wrote:





2010/11/11 Bernard Hurley bern...@marcade.biz>







On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:




> Hello again.



>



> We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and



> I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.



>




Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far



superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually



I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from



somewhere else.





You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged,



Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development



is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to



this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of



compositional rapid prototype tool.





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Lilypond + frescobaldi might be more difficult to learn indeed, but I
agree with it's quality. On top of that mscore doesn't have the
possibility to add tabs to your score (perhaps an svn version can, but I
guess it's not quite stable yet). Ok, there's tuxguitar for that, but
tuxguitar is not really ment for printing, more for displaying on a
screen. In my experience printing from tuxguitar is not good at all.
Perhaps the option is to keep lilypond installed by default,and add
frescobaldi (or have it at least in the archive).





The version of mscore that was installed in 10.04 by default was
very buggy too. Ironically I had to install a newer, unstable version,
to have it stable (dragging slurs caused crashes). So it was actually
useless to have it installed by default in the first place.





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Bart
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As I've voiced to the other developers in IRC, I also see Lilypond +  
Frescobaldi as the best notation software for those who want to write  
anything complex (though guitar tabs isn't really even that complex). I  
have added a workflow, which includes Lilypond and Frescobaldi, to the  
wiki page where all of this is being hashed out - AND I ENCOURAGE  
EVERYONE TO ADD TO THE WIKI PAGE to get more processes and veiwpoints  
involved in this development process. Bernard, for instance should  
probably add a workflow that includes Common Music if that task isn't  
already taken by a superior program or other workflows (maybe even if it  
is).




Without community involvement adjusting the wiki page a lot of the  
suggestions in this e-mail thread will fall to the dregs of past history  
without full consideration by all developers. Please add your ideas to  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows





- Eric Hedekar



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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-11-14 Thread Eric Hedekar
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, bart deruyter wrote:

>
> 2010/11/11 Bernard Hurley 
>
> On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:
>> > Hello again.
>> >
>> > We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and
>> > I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.
>> >
>> Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far
>> superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually
>> I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged,
>> Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development
>> is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to
>> this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of
>> compositional rapid prototype tool.
>>
>> Bernard
>>
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> Lilypond + frescobaldi might be more difficult to learn indeed, but I agree
> with it's quality. On top of that mscore doesn't have the possibility to add
> tabs to your score (perhaps an svn version can, but I guess it's not quite
> stable yet). Ok, there's tuxguitar for that, but tuxguitar is not really
> ment for printing, more for displaying on a screen. In my experience
> printing from tuxguitar is not good at all. Perhaps the option is to keep
> lilypond installed by default,and add frescobaldi (or have it at least in
> the archive).
>
> The version of mscore that was installed in 10.04 by default was very buggy
> too. Ironically I had to install a newer, unstable version, to have it
> stable (dragging slurs caused crashes). So it was actually useless to have
> it installed by default in the first place.
>
> grtz,
> Bart
>
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As I've voiced to the other developers in IRC, I also see Lilypond +
Frescobaldi as the best notation software for those who want to write
anything complex (though guitar tabs isn't really even that complex).  I
have added a workflow, which includes Lilypond and Frescobaldi, to the wiki
page where all of this is being hashed out - *AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO
ADD TO THE WIKI PAGE* to get more processes and veiwpoints involved in this
development process.  Bernard, for instance should probably add a workflow
that includes Common Music if that task isn't already taken by a superior
program or other workflows (maybe even if it is).

Without community involvement adjusting the wiki page a lot of the
suggestions in this e-mail thread will fall to the dregs of past history
without full consideration by all developers.  Please add your ideas to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-11-11 Thread bart deruyter
Lilypond + frescobaldi might be more difficult to learn indeed, but I agree
with it's quality. On top of that mscore doesn't have the possibility to add
tabs to your score (perhaps an svn version can, but I guess it's not quite
stable yet). Ok, there's tuxguitar for that, but tuxguitar is not really
ment for printing, more for displaying on a screen. In my experience
printing from tuxguitar is not good at all. Perhaps the option is to keep
lilypond installed by default,and add frescobaldi (or have it at least in
the archive).

The version of mscore that was installed in 10.04 by default was very buggy
too. Ironically I had to install a newer, unstable version, to have it
stable (dragging slurs caused crashes). So it was actually useless to have
it installed by default in the first place.

grtz,
Bart

http://www.bartart3d.be/


2010/11/11 Bernard Hurley 

> On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:
> > Hello again.
> >
> > We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and
> > I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.
> >
> Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far
> superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually
> I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from
> somewhere else.
>
> You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged,
> Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development
> is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to
> this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of
> compositional rapid prototype tool.
>
> Bernard
>
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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-11-11 Thread Bernard Hurley
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:
> Hello again.
> 
> We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and
> I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.
> 
Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far
superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually
I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from
somewhere else.

You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged,
Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development
is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to
this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of
compositional rapid prototype tool.

Bernard


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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-11-01 Thread Pablo Fernandez
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Scott Lavender
wrote:

> Hello again.
>
> We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I
> wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.
>
> I had mentioned before on the mailing list that in an effort to make Ubuntu
> Studio more effective and proficient we were identifying tasks that a user
> might want to accomplish with Ubuntu Studio.  Additionally workflows were
> developed to support these tasks which include which packages might be
> required a general set of actions required to accomplish said tasks.
> Developing these workflows helps us in numerous ways, including identifying
> a package set, providing framework for user documentation, and providing a
> path for testing.  This email will focus on identifying a package set.
>
> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
> the task and workflow wiki page at:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>
> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
>
> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use
> the term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications
> installed by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being
> removed from the archives.  You can always install these packages at any
> time, by any method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of
> these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
>

> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
>
> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>  * guitarix
>  * hydrogen-drumkits
>  * lashd
>  * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>  * phasex
>  * qtractor (to replace seq24)
>  * specimen
>  * whysynth
>  * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
>
> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with
> Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be:
>  * aconnectgui
>  * audacity
>  * beast
>  * bitscope
>  * bristol
>  * csound
>  * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>  * freebirth
>  * freqtweak
>  * genpo
>  * jackeq
>  * jacktools
>  * jdelay
>  * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>  * lmms
>  * mixxx
>  * muse
>  * qamix
>  * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
>  * terminatorx
>  * timemachine
>  * timidity
>  * tk707
>  * xwax
>  * zynaddsubfx
>
> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
>
> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
> you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
> a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>
> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
> with Ubuntu Studio.
>
> ScottL
>
>
>

Hi Scott, Hi everybody!

Well, I suggest another section under the audio tasks, which I would name
"Rehearsal and Education" or something similar.  I really wish gtklick
replaces gtick and vmpk replaces vkeybd because they are better for these
tasks:

Task: Use the computer as a metronome

Explanation: Sometimes you need to practice your favourite instrument and
your pocket metronome is nowhere to be found.

Requirements: An instrument to play

Applications Used - JACK, qjackctl, gtklick

Workflow:
Start JACK with qjackctl
Start gtklick (the first time, you might want to "Edit -> Preferences ->
Automatically connect to soundcard output")
Choose meter and tempo (More options in the View menu)
Start the metronome
Start playing your instrument trying to follow the click

Further information: http://das.nasophon.de/gtklick/

Notes: gtick is not jack-aware and it does not work out of the box. gtklick
is rock solid with jack and it works out of the box in a jack environment.

Task: Learn the piano

Explanation: Watch a piano keyboard highlighting the keys as a midi file or
a real midi keyboard is playing

Requirements: A real midi piano keyboard, if possible.

Applications used: JACK, qjackctl, a2jmidid, patchage (optional) qsynth (or
another softsynth, if there is a midi keyboard), mscore, vmpk
Workflow:
Start JACK with qjackctl
Execute a2jmidid
Start mscore
Edit -> Preferences -&

Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 31.10.2010 16:12, schrieb Scott Lavender:
> Firstly, thank you everyone for replying.

You are very welcome .-)


> I am concerned with the number of "video" applications we may be acquiring
> in the workflows now.  Currently, OpenShot, Avidemux, and OpenMovieEditor
> are all included.

I understand the concern and that it is indeed a complicated task to
find a sane and working set of video-apps for Linux.

Since the free video-apps are by far not that mature as the audio-stuff
I can only add some more points for the discussion.

Avidemux is some kind of a swiss-army-knife for working with
video-files. I did use it 2 or 3 times as a video-editor but I use it
frequently to extract audio and manipulate formats. There are great
commandline-apps for these tasks and these are easy to use. But it is
not at all easy to know all the options you have in the jungle of
formats for video so I consider Avidemux a very user-friendly app since
it allows to work with these options intuitive. (Somewhat like
PHPMyAdmin if you start working with MySQL...)

> 
> OpenShot is arguably the easierst, most user friendly video editor.

OpenShot is nice and its design is very promising. But as I tested it in
May last year I had so many crashes in so many different normal
situations, that I must say: if it was not developped in a most
astounding speed in the last months, it cannot be considered a
application ready for end-users.

>  I
> understand that Avidemux might not be considered a video "editor" per se,
> but allows audio to be stripped easily.  OpenMovieEditor apparently is JACK
> aware 

It has the best Jack-implementation I ever had the fun using with a
video-editor. It produces crashes also that can give you a situation, if
you are working in a studio with a customer but I made several
video-projects with it and the work went like a breeze - its
desaster-recovery system faild only once in 10-12 crashes I had with it
in several hundred houres of work. So I would say: even while 1 crash in
10 h is still much too much, it is recommendable.

> (I thought LiVes was the only JACK capable video application).
> 
> Each seems to have a strong point, but I was wondering if it was possible to
> consolidate these applications choices to reduce their numbers.  If an easy
> solution does not present itself and it is the best interest of
> functionality to keep all the applications, then it would seem that we
> should keep all the applications.

For starters I think, OME should be enough (given, that all the
frei0r-plugins and of course ffmpeg are on board also).

But the users should be informed in a nice and understandable way, that
much more is possible, if they install a list of additional apps.

> 
> My suggestion, at this point, would be to replace OpenShot with
> OpenMovieEditor in the "Create a Home Movie" task.  But I admit that I
> haven't used OME in quite some time and am not aware how it compares to
> OpenShot in terms of usability and "friendliness".

Unfortunately, OME is not actively developed these days. Since it is
still one great app, I still would recommend its inclusion - maybe this
could even lure Richard Spindler into further developing it ;-)

> LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
>> doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.
>>
> 
> I wish that you do not take my statements in a derogatory or hostile
> manner.  However, I think it would be unfortunate if we were to include LMMS
> (or any application) solely on the arguments presented above.

Absolutely no offence ment. :-)

But let me advocate LMMS some more:

Workflow: Creating electronic music for absolute beginners.

Requirements: LMMS

* open LMMS and choose alsa for audio-i/o
* drag some instruments, presets and/or samples from the browser at the
left to beatlines or tracks
* hit play and have fun
* invite you good friends rightklick, middleklick and the CTRL-key to
the party and have more fun
* connect any MIDI-Keyboard/Controller to tracks and parameters and have
serious fun.


Lmms is the most beginner-friendly sequencer I ever have seen under
Linux and it is at the same time capable enough to do complex advanced
stuff with it also. Qtractor is much more complicated. But while
Qtractor comes with Support for DSSI and LV2 and very capable
Audiotracks, LMMS has only crude sample-tracks and knows only LADSPA (it
comes whith great built-in synths/samplers though and can be compiled to
use VST).

So both have their audience and their unique powers. Users, that come
from Windows/Mac are used to have *all* these powers available and a
Linux-distro geared towards creative users should offer as much powers
as the free-software-devs are providing.So yes: both are sequencers but
if you want to make people happy, you should have both.

Beginners will be appalled by the learning curve Qtractor demands, some
more experienced users would be disappointed, if the flexibility and
audio-capabilities of Qtractor would not be available

Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Brian David
I agree with a lot of Scott's sentiments on trying to cut back on some of
these programs.  For instance, in my case the type of music I make and the
recording approaches I take mean that I have only ever used:

-JACK
-Ardour
-Jamin
-Occasionally Hydrogen

As you can see, for a user like me, there are just way too many other audio
applications that I have no idea what to do with.  It would be nice to have
the choice to install just a base set of audio applications.  And then, if I
ever decide I need more MIDI editing, or some software instruments, I can
just go download them.

Coming from that perspective, the only reason I can see for having any other
audio recording/editing program on the ISO besides Ardour would be if
someone wants to do MIDI.  And perhaps after Ardour 3 is released, there
would essentially be no reason to have anything else.

Now, does Audacity or LMMS do certain things better?  Sure, and if you want
to use them, you can still download them.

On the other hand, I would like to see Sound Converter and GCD Master
added.  I'll write up a work flow that shows how these incorporate into
common tasks and add it to the wiki when I next get the time.
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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Scott Lavender
Firstly, thank you everyone for replying.  Community involvement was what I
desired and is highly encouraging as well.


@hartmut

> I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)
>

Awesome!  This is certainly the type of response I had desired :)

I am concerned with the number of "video" applications we may be acquiring
in the workflows now.  Currently, OpenShot, Avidemux, and OpenMovieEditor
are all included.

OpenShot is arguably the easierst, most user friendly video editor.  I
understand that Avidemux might not be considered a video "editor" per se,
but allows audio to be stripped easily.  OpenMovieEditor apparently is JACK
aware (I thought LiVes was the only JACK capable video application).

Each seems to have a strong point, but I was wondering if it was possible to
consolidate these applications choices to reduce their numbers.  If an easy
solution does not present itself and it is the best interest of
functionality to keep all the applications, then it would seem that we
should keep all the applications.

My suggestion, at this point, would be to replace OpenShot with
OpenMovieEditor in the "Create a Home Movie" task.  But I admit that I
haven't used OME in quite some time and am not aware how it compares to
OpenShot in terms of usability and "friendliness".

LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
> doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.
>

I wish that you do not take my statements in a derogatory or hostile
manner.  However, I think it would be unfortunate if we were to include LMMS
(or any application) solely on the arguments presented above.

I have previously mentioned validating inclusion of applications to make
sure that they support an entire "tool chain" for accomplishing a task.  But
a second order effect would be to also validate if anyone actually desires
to accomplish a particular "task".  Hence, my request that someone specify a
task and develop a workflow to support it.

Can one someone identify a task and develop a supporting workflow so we can
discuss LMMS without abstraction.

Also keep in mind, we should also consider that if a very select subset of
users desires an application, or entire "toolchain", should we include it in
the ISO and make hundreds or thousands of users devote bandwidth to download
these applications.  Especially considering that NO applications are being
removed from the archives and can be easily installed with 'sudo apt-get
install'.


@Jeremy

Same here, Qtractor is a multi-track recorder/MIDI composition tool
> while Seq24 is a pattern based sequencer. Some of the most amazing stuff
> made on GNU/Linux is done with Seq24.
>

And why Mixxx? It is one of the best DJ mixer apps available, if not the
> best.
>

Hi Jeremy, and thank you for your comments/questions.

I would like to discuss Qtractor in two senses; one as a sequencer and
another in tandem with Mixxx.

Firstly, Seq24 is a sequencer.  If one were wanting to create a song in a
studio/bedroom using a sequencer then I would suggest that Qtractor might be
a better and more eloquent solution.  But if you disagree then I encourage
you to add information to the workflow wiki page as an alternative (don't
delete, be considerate of others work).

Secondly, I will frame Seq24 and Mixxx in a 'live performance' environment.
These applications are being considered for a 'live performance' seed (along
with other applications) which would then present the user with the option
to install them during installation.  However, I am not very knowledgeable
about using these applications in a live performance and feel that I cannot
create tasks or wofklows for them in good faith.

But, this is where you can assist by appending the workflow wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

Please keep in mind, a superfluous task (e.g. this task is to keep my
favourite application) or a task that only a very few people might support
might not be included in the ISO.  We are not removing any application from
the archives, we would simply not be including it on the ISO.


@saearea-test

I bought a laptop in 2008 for personal use. At that point I wanted to try
> Ubuntu Studio but it stopped very quickly because of the non-working
> wireless connectivity. I only had a wireless connection available in the
> basement. I installed Linux Mint and it has been working very well. I've
> also moved twice within the last year and have not gotten my music equipment
> up and running. Nevertheless, I've been reading all emails in this mailing
> list and it seems the best setup for Ubuntu Studio would be a desktop PC
> with a wired network connection, a firewire audio adapter and a MIDI
> controller that can be plugged in into the GAME port. I had gotten myself a
> USB audio adapter and a USB midi controller. From what I've learned here,
> USB seems not to be a very good choice.
> I am still in the phase of deciding what to do next, and that requires time
> and mone

Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread saearea-test
Dear Hartmut,

thank you for your compassion.

I bought a laptop in 2008 for personal use. At that point I wanted to try 
Ubuntu Studio but it stopped very quickly because of the non-working wireless 
connectivity. I only had a wireless connection available in the basement. I 
installed Linux Mint and it has been working very well. I've also moved twice 
within the last year and have not gotten my music equipment up and running. 
Nevertheless, I've been reading all emails in this mailing list and it seems 
the best setup for Ubuntu Studio would be a desktop PC with a wired network 
connection, a firewire audio adapter and a MIDI controller that can be plugged 
in into the GAME port. I had gotten myself a USB audio adapter and a USB midi 
controller. From what I've learned here, USB seems not to be a very good choice.
I am still in the phase of deciding what to do next, and that requires time and 
money (neither of which I have plenty of, currently).

Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge!

Sincerely,

Stefan
--- Hartmut Noack  schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010:

Von: Hartmut Noack 
Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 23:28 Uhr

Am 30.10.2010 20:51, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com:
> Hello Hartmut,
> 
> thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, 
> but I am sorry that I can't test it.


Sad - any particular reasons?

You can simplyfy the workflow if you skip the avidemux-excursion. You
can record the given soundtrack in Ardour as it is being played in OME.
Less elegant but simple and just works ;-)

Also if you do not need MIDI-composing, you can work it out with Ardour
and OME alone...

good luck :-)

HZN


> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stefan



> 
> 
> 
> --- Hartmut Noack  schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010:
> 
> Von: Hartmut Noack 
> Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
> An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr
> 
> Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
>> Hello again.
>>
> 
>>
>> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
>> the task and workflow wiki page at:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
> I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)
> 
>> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
>> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
>> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
>>
>> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
>> term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
>> by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
>> the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
>> method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
>> the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
>>
>> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
>> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
>>
>> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
>> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>>   * guitarix
>>   * hydrogen-drumkits
>>   * lashd
>>   * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>>   * phasex
>>   * qtractor (to replace seq24)
> 
> Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
> different application.
> Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
> live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
> intended to be used.
> I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
> qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.
> 
>>   * specimen
>>   * whysynth
>>   * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
>>
>> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
>> Studio, but will no longer be:
>>   * aconnectgui
>>   * audacity
> 
> I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
> Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
> sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
> sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.
> 
>>   * beast
>>   * bitscope
>>   * bristol
>>   * csound
>>   * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>>   * freebirth
>>   * freqtweak
>>   * genpo
>>   * jackeq
>>   * jacktools
>>   * jdelay
>>   * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>

Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:47:34AM EDT, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
> It really is a shame Rezound isn't actively being developed/maintained 
> anymore. And the Audacity team should really take a look at implementing 
> direct JACK support instead of using PortAudio.

Audacity is cross-platform, hense the use of portaudio. I know of other projets 
that work this way, mixxx included. On the other hand, pure-data supports 
native backends for all the platforms it runs on, i.e jack and ALSA for linux, 
coreaudio for OS X, and the Windows audio system whatever its called, for 
Windows.

Luke

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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/30/2010 07:09 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
>> Hello again.
>>
>
>>
>> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
>> the task and workflow wiki page at:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
> I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)
>
>> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
>> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
>> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
>>
>> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
>> term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
>> by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
>> the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
>> method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
>> the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
>>
>> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
>> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
>>
>> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
>> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>>   * guitarix
>>   * hydrogen-drumkits
>>   * lashd
>>   * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>>   * phasex
>>   * qtractor (to replace seq24)
>
> Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
> different application.
> Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
> live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
> intended to be used.
> I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
> qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.
>

Same here, Qtractor is a multi-track recorder/MIDI composition tool 
while Seq24 is a pattern based sequencer. Some of the most amazing stuff 
made on GNU/Linux is done with Seq24.

>>   * specimen
>>   * whysynth
>>   * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
>>
>> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
>> Studio, but will no longer be:
>>   * aconnectgui
>>   * audacity
>
> I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
> Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
> sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
> sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.
>

It really is a shame Rezound isn't actively being developed/maintained 
anymore. And the Audacity team should really take a look at implementing 
direct JACK support instead of using PortAudio.

>>   * beast
>>   * bitscope
>>   * bristol
>>   * csound
>>   * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>>   * freebirth
>>   * freqtweak
>>   * genpo
>>   * jackeq
>>   * jacktools
>>   * jdelay
>>   * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>>   * lmms
>
> LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
> doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.
>

Same here too. LMMS aims at being an all-in-one solution which makes it 
stand out and also very usable for someone coming from another platform 
where monolithic apps are more widespread.

>>   * mixxx
>>   * muse
>>   * qamix
>>   * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
>
> see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24.
>

And why Mixxx? It is one of the best DJ mixer apps available, if not the 
best.

>>   * terminatorx
>>   * timemachine
>
> Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it
> automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential.
>
> best regs
>
> HZN/berlin
>
>>   * timidity
>>   * tk707
>>   * xwax
>>   * zynaddsubfx
>>
>> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
>> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
>> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
>> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
>>
>> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
>> you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
>> a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
>> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
>> with Ubuntu Studio.
>>
>> ScottL
>>
>>
>
>

Best,

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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-30 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 30.10.2010 20:51, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com:
> Hello Hartmut,
> 
> thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, 
> but I am sorry that I can't test it.


Sad - any particular reasons?

You can simplyfy the workflow if you skip the avidemux-excursion. You
can record the given soundtrack in Ardour as it is being played in OME.
Less elegant but simple and just works ;-)

Also if you do not need MIDI-composing, you can work it out with Ardour
and OME alone...

good luck :-)

HZN


> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Stefan



> 
> 
> 
> --- Hartmut Noack  schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010:
> 
> Von: Hartmut Noack 
> Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
> An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr
> 
> Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
>> Hello again.
>>
> 
>>
>> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
>> the task and workflow wiki page at:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
> I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)
> 
>> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
>> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
>> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
>>
>> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
>> term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
>> by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
>> the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
>> method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
>> the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
>>
>> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
>> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
>>
>> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
>> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>>   * guitarix
>>   * hydrogen-drumkits
>>   * lashd
>>   * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>>   * phasex
>>   * qtractor (to replace seq24)
> 
> Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
> different application.
> Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
> live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
> intended to be used.
> I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
> qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.
> 
>>   * specimen
>>   * whysynth
>>   * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
>>
>> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
>> Studio, but will no longer be:
>>   * aconnectgui
>>   * audacity
> 
> I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
> Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
> sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
> sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.
> 
>>   * beast
>>   * bitscope
>>   * bristol
>>   * csound
>>   * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>>   * freebirth
>>   * freqtweak
>>   * genpo
>>   * jackeq
>>   * jacktools
>>   * jdelay
>>   * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>>   * lmms
> 
> LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
> doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.
> 
>>   * mixxx
>>   * muse
>>   * qamix
>>   * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
> 
> see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24.
> 
>>   * terminatorx
>>   * timemachine
> 
> Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it
> automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential.
> 
> best regs
> 
> HZN/berlin
> 
>>   * timidity
>>   * tk707
>>   * xwax
>>   * zynaddsubfx
>>
>> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
>> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
>> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
>> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
>>
>> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
>> you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
>> a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
>> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
>> with Ubuntu Studio.
>>
>> ScottL
>>
>>
> 
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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-30 Thread saearea-test
Hello Hartmut,

thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, but 
I am sorry that I can't test it.

Best regards,

Stefan



--- Hartmut Noack  schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010:

Von: Hartmut Noack 
Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr

Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
> Hello again.
> 

> 
> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
> the task and workflow wiki page at:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>
I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)

> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
> 
> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
> term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
> by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
> the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
> method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
> the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
> 
> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
> 
> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>  * guitarix
>  * hydrogen-drumkits
>  * lashd
>  * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>  * phasex
>  * qtractor (to replace seq24)

Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
different application.
Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
intended to be used.
I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.

>  * specimen
>  * whysynth
>  * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
> 
> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
> Studio, but will no longer be:
>  * aconnectgui
>  * audacity

I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.

>  * beast
>  * bitscope
>  * bristol
>  * csound
>  * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>  * freebirth
>  * freqtweak
>  * genpo
>  * jackeq
>  * jacktools
>  * jdelay
>  * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>  * lmms

LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.

>  * mixxx
>  * muse
>  * qamix
>  * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)

see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24.

>  * terminatorx
>  * timemachine

Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it
automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential.

best regs

HZN/berlin

>  * timidity
>  * tk707
>  * xwax
>  * zynaddsubfx
> 
> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
> 
> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
> you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
> a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
> 
> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
> with Ubuntu Studio.
> 
> ScottL
> 
> 


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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-30 Thread Hartmut Noack
Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
> Hello again.
> 

> 
> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
> the task and workflow wiki page at:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>
I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)

> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
> 
> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
> term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
> by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
> the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
> method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
> the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
> 
> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
> 
> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>  * guitarix
>  * hydrogen-drumkits
>  * lashd
>  * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>  * phasex
>  * qtractor (to replace seq24)

Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
different application.
Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
intended to be used.
I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.

>  * specimen
>  * whysynth
>  * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
> 
> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
> Studio, but will no longer be:
>  * aconnectgui
>  * audacity

I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.

>  * beast
>  * bitscope
>  * bristol
>  * csound
>  * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>  * freebirth
>  * freqtweak
>  * genpo
>  * jackeq
>  * jacktools
>  * jdelay
>  * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>  * lmms

LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.

>  * mixxx
>  * muse
>  * qamix
>  * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)

see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24.

>  * terminatorx
>  * timemachine

Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it
automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential.

best regs

HZN/berlin

>  * timidity
>  * tk707
>  * xwax
>  * zynaddsubfx
> 
> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
> 
> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
> you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
> a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
> 
> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
> with Ubuntu Studio.
> 
> ScottL
> 
> 


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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-29 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:

> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with
> Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be:
>  * aconnectgui
>  * audacity

Thanks for the link to those Scott.  I noticed this use of Audacity.  

=
Create Audio Clips and Sound Effects for Videos

Explanation - Trim existing audio files to create sound effects or audio
clips for videos

Requirements - Existing audio files from which to trim sound effects or
audio clips

Applications Used - Audacity 
=

So I assume that needs to be corrected. I do not know much about all of
this, but I am learning and at least I can do my part and
proof-read.  :-)


Cheers,
Tim 


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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-29 Thread Scott Lavender
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mike Holstein  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Scott Lavender 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello again.
>>
>> We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I
>> wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.
>>
>> I had mentioned before on the mailing list that in an effort to make
>> Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient we were identifying tasks that a
>> user might want to accomplish with Ubuntu Studio.  Additionally workflows
>> were developed to support these tasks which include which packages might be
>> required a general set of actions required to accomplish said tasks.
>> Developing these workflows helps us in numerous ways, including identifying
>> a package set, providing framework for user documentation, and providing a
>> path for testing.  This email will focus on identifying a package set.
>>
>> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can
>> find the task and workflow wiki page at:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
>> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their
>> contributions!  We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one
>> that is already extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not
>> remove the other.
>>
>> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use
>> the term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications
>> installed by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being
>> removed from the archives.  You can always install these packages at any
>> time, by any method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of
>> these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
>>
>> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
>> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
>>
>> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
>> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>>  * guitarix
>>  * hydrogen-drumkits
>>  * lashd
>>  * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>>  * phasex
>>  * qtractor (to replace seq24)
>>  * specimen
>>  * whysynth
>>  * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
>>
>> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with
>> Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be:
>>  * aconnectgui
>>  * audacity
>>  * beast
>>  * bitscope
>>  * bristol
>>  * csound
>>  * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>>  * freebirth
>>  * freqtweak
>>  * genpo
>>  * jackeq
>>  * jacktools
>>  * jdelay
>>  * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>>  * lmms
>>  * mixxx
>>  * muse
>>  * qamix
>>  * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
>>  * terminatorx
>>  * timemachine
>>  * timidity
>>  * tk707
>>  * xwax
>>  * zynaddsubfx
>>
>> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
>> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
>> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
>> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
>>
>> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio
>> but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and
>> develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
>> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
>> with Ubuntu Studio.
>>
>> ScottL
>>
>>
>>
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> just to clarify, these packages that are being removed from the
> ubuntustudio meta-package, and the default install will still be available
> in the repo as long as the packages are supported, correct?... if someone
> needed aconnectgui, they can just apt-get it...
>
> thanks
>
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Aye.

If these packages are not installed by default with Ubuntu Studio, one can
use apt-get to install them.  They will still be in the archives.

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Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-29 Thread Scott Lavender
Hello again.

We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I
wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04.

I had mentioned before on the mailing list that in an effort to make Ubuntu
Studio more effective and proficient we were identifying tasks that a user
might want to accomplish with Ubuntu Studio.  Additionally workflows were
developed to support these tasks which include which packages might be
required a general set of actions required to accomplish said tasks.
Developing these workflows helps us in numerous ways, including identifying
a package set, providing framework for user documentation, and providing a
path for testing.  This email will focus on identifying a package set.

For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
the task and workflow wiki page at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.

Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
the Ubuntu Studio ISO.

Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
currently installed package set will change for Natty.

These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
installing Ubuntu Studio:
 * guitarix
 * hydrogen-drumkits
 * lashd
 * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
 * phasex
 * qtractor (to replace seq24)
 * specimen
 * whysynth
 * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)

These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
Studio, but will no longer be:
 * aconnectgui
 * audacity
 * beast
 * bitscope
 * bristol
 * csound
 * denemo (replaced by mscore)
 * freebirth
 * freqtweak
 * genpo
 * jackeq
 * jacktools
 * jdelay
 * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
 * lmms
 * mixxx
 * muse
 * qamix
 * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
 * terminatorx
 * timemachine
 * timidity
 * tk707
 * xwax
 * zynaddsubfx

Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
developed to assist users accomplish tasks.

If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows

This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
with Ubuntu Studio.

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make-kpkg for Squeeze and maybe Lucid too - was: Re: [64studio-users] Why can't I install listed packages [snip]

2010-10-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I didn't read the latest mails on Ubuntu Studio Users Mailing List, I'll
do it ASAP. Sorry for the cross-posting.

I didn't test this ...

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=243740

... but there might be a solution for compiling a kernel using
make-kpkg.

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Re: Help with internet and packages

2010-01-22 Thread Rafael Boy
Siento por no especificar eso. Si aun tengo la instalacion. Y de hecho tengo
un triple booteo: ubuntu, ubuntu studio y windows 7. Voy a tratar de
reintalar el SO con el cable ehternet conectado y te aviso. Ya probe con
ifconfig y si me sale la interface wlan0. Pero al tratar de configurar el
wlan0 en "herramientas de red" me dice que compruebe que la interface este
bien escrita y que la soporte el sistema. Por esto entiendo que sera algun
driver, pero no lo creo, pruebo reinstalar el SO y te aviso mañana.

Gracias por tomarte la molestia!

El 22 de enero de 2010 23:14, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus <
arad...@gmail.com> escribió:

> A ver, yo soy de México (sorry at the list for reply in Spanish) asumo que
> intentaste instalar Ubuntu Studio 9.10 en tu laptop. Bien hay varios
> detalles que no explicas. De entrada si tienes la instalación aun o te
> volviste al viejo y malo Windows. En caso de tener aun la instalación de
> Ubuntu studio, debiste instalar desde el CD y tener conectada tu lap a
> internet por cable, eso ayuda a evitar problemas de este tipo.
>
> Otra cosa que podrías hacer (en caso de tener la instalación aun hecha) es
> abrir una sesión de consola y escribir ifconfig y ver que te arroja. ¿No sé
> si sepas de redes?
>
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Re: Help with internet and packages

2010-01-22 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
A ver, yo soy de México (sorry at the list for reply in Spanish) asumo que
intentaste instalar Ubuntu Studio 9.10 en tu laptop. Bien hay varios
detalles que no explicas. De entrada si tienes la instalación aun o te
volviste al viejo y malo Windows. En caso de tener aun la instalación de
Ubuntu studio, debiste instalar desde el CD y tener conectada tu lap a
internet por cable, eso ayuda a evitar problemas de este tipo.

Otra cosa que podrías hacer (en caso de tener la instalación aun hecha) es
abrir una sesión de consola y escribir ifconfig y ver que te arroja. ¿No sé
si sepas de redes?

Saludos:
Aradnix

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Help with internet and packages

2010-01-22 Thread Rafael Boy
Hey there, first of all sorry for my bad english, i'm from Mexico. So here
is my problem. When I try to install ubuntu studio 9.10 in my Dell Inspiron
1420 it appears in spanish "Hubo un fallo en la deteccion/configuracion
dhcp" or something like that. In english it would be something like "there
was an error detecting dhcp". So I chose "retry configuring dhcp" but
nothing, then I chose to retry with a server but I don't even know the name
of the server (my internet company is called Infinitum), finally I tried
configuring it manually but I don't know which IP addres should I put, the
local IP or the internet IP, I mean the one that is "192.168.xxx" or the one
that could be "xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx". The Subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 but I
don't know what is the "pasarela" in spanish, in English I think it could be
the "router" "gateway" "dns" and I don't know that. Actually I have
configured my laptop (in windows) to automatically recieve the IP settings
and the DNS settings to. I don't mind reinstalling the OS. Or maybe I should
try some commands from the terminal. Could you help me please?

Thanks, Rafael

PD: I also selected the packages "2d/3d creation" "audio creating suite"
"video editing suite" (or something like that), and when it is about to
finish it says "there was an error  trying to install packages, do yoy know
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Re: LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)

2009-12-25 Thread Kenneth Koym
Teza, I'd like to produce DVDs, turning raw footage coupled with non-profit
entities I run into productions that sell members on what we do; just real
basic, i.e.,

   - my neighborhood association wishes to stop a gravel pit operator from
   destroying property values, creating dust, destroying water holding
   capability of the 2,000 acres next to public schools, a housing edition
   - dialoguemakers.org wants to do better recruiting of mentors for
   peacemaking & helping local youth.

need to cut chaff from footage ripped to my HD, dub, connect & convey
message.
Kenneth

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM, teza  wrote:

> Hi Kenneth, what would you like to do? If you want to record music,
> start by learning how to use  jack  server, and how to connect softs
> beetween them, how to use effects ect.
> Just tell us more. If I can help, it will be a pleasure.
> Regards from Paris.
> Teza
>
> Kenneth Koym a écrit :
> > Scott, Teza / Anyone:
> > being a noobie to Ubu Stu 9.10 Karmic, in fact to producing basic
> > results, I'm missing where you're going. Not that I need this; for one
> > like m e, is there a good way you'd recommend how I could get past go?
> > Kenneth
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lavender
> > mailto:slaven...@consolidated.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now,
> including
> > zynjacku and lv2rack.
> >
> > To add my PPA as a repository-
> >
> > Quick method:
> > ppa:slavender/karmic
> >
> > More laborious:
> > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main
> > deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main
> >
> > and signing key
> > 1024R/0020F80E
> >
> >
> > They appear to work as I started each application and inserted
> various
> > effects but did not run any sound through them.  I would be very
> > interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these.
> >
> > Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or
> > menu
> > entries at this point.  To be honest, I don't know how to add them
> yet
> > when building the application.  I have run them from the terminal.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Scott
> >
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Re: LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)

2009-12-25 Thread teza
Hi Kenneth, what would you like to do? If you want to record music, 
start by learning how to use  jack  server, and how to connect softs 
beetween them, how to use effects ect.
Just tell us more. If I can help, it will be a pleasure.
Regards from Paris.
Teza

Kenneth Koym a écrit :
> Scott, Teza / Anyone:
> being a noobie to Ubu Stu 9.10 Karmic, in fact to producing basic 
> results, I'm missing where you're going. Not that I need this; for one 
> like m e, is there a good way you'd recommend how I could get past go?
> Kenneth
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lavender 
> mailto:slaven...@consolidated.net>> wrote:
>
> Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including
> zynjacku and lv2rack.
>
> To add my PPA as a repository-
>
> Quick method:
> ppa:slavender/karmic
>
> More laborious:
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main
> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main
>
> and signing key
> 1024R/0020F80E
>
>
> They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various
> effects but did not run any sound through them.  I would be very
> interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these.
>
> Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or
> menu
> entries at this point.  To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet
> when building the application.  I have run them from the terminal.
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>
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Re: LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)

2009-12-25 Thread Kenneth Koym
Scott, Teza / Anyone:
being a noobie to Ubu Stu 9.10 Karmic, in fact to producing basic results,
I'm missing where you're going. Not that I need this; for one like me, is
there a good way you'd recommend how I could get past go?
Kenneth

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lavender  wrote:

> Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including
> zynjacku and lv2rack.
>
> To add my PPA as a repository-
>
> Quick method:
> ppa:slavender/karmic
>
> More laborious:
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main
> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main
>
> and signing key
> 1024R/0020F80E
>
>
> They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various
> effects but did not run any sound through them.  I would be very
> interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these.
>
> Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or menu
> entries at this point.  To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet
> when building the application.  I have run them from the terminal.
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>
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LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)

2009-12-25 Thread Scott Lavender
Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including
zynjacku and lv2rack.

To add my PPA as a repository-

Quick method:
ppa:slavender/karmic

More laborious:
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main 
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main 

and signing key
1024R/0020F80E 


They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various
effects but did not run any sound through them.  I would be very
interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these.

Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or menu
entries at this point.  To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet
when building the application.  I have run them from the terminal.

Regards,
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Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?

2009-12-07 Thread Aditia A. Pratama
Wow...really? I wanna test too...
Any link please...LOL

2009/12/8, Leo :
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, laurent.bellegarde
>  wrote:
>> The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has
>> introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing
>> but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this
>> DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very
>> impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my
>> tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free
>> improvement are live available.
>>
>
> Is there a place to download this live, "full" iso ?
> I'd like to teste it, please.
>
> Thanks
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Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?

2009-12-07 Thread Leo
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, laurent.bellegarde
 wrote:
> The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has
> introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing
> but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this
> DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very
> impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my
> tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free
> improvement are live available.
>

Is there a place to download this live, "full" iso ?
I'd like to teste it, please.

Thanks
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Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?

2009-12-07 Thread Eric Hedekar
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, laurent.bellegarde <
laurent.bellega...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu
> Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example).
> I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the
> hard disk. It's working perfectly.
>
> It could be nice to have this iso available for everyone, but we have a
> trouble.
>
> The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has
> introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing
> but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this
> DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very
> impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my
> tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free
> improvement are live available.
>
> So where can i found the complete official list of ALL the packages free
> included in the Ubuntu Studio karmic official DVD install disk to
> compare to our beta disk, to create a new one as the official one but
> live, without all forbidden packages  to allow everyone to download it ?
>
> Is it allowed to create it ?
>
> If not, we can create a lprod.org one, based only on free software
> included in Ubuntu Studio, in live and downloadable.
>
> Thank's for answers.
>
> Laurent,
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Hi Laurent,

This is wonderful news, this is a feature request that we get on a regular
basis from our users but the dev team is not experienced in the creation of
LiveDVDs.  It'd be great if this effort could be moved into the Ubuntu
Studio development process so that future releases have live capabilities.
I'm CCing the dev list on this and I hope that the discussion continues
there.  Please consider joining that list to facilitate the discussion
there.

To answer your question regarding packages, the full list of packages
(including dependencies) can be seen at
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ubuntustudio

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List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?

2009-12-07 Thread laurent.bellegarde
Hi all.

With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu 
Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example).
I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the 
hard disk. It's working perfectly.

It could be nice to have this iso available for everyone, but we have a 
trouble.

The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has 
introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing 
but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this 
DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very 
impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my 
tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free 
improvement are live available.

So where can i found the complete official list of ALL the packages free 
included in the Ubuntu Studio karmic official DVD install disk to 
compare to our beta disk, to create a new one as the official one but 
live, without all forbidden packages  to allow everyone to download it ?

Is it allowed to create it ?

If not, we can create a lprod.org one, based only on free software 
included in Ubuntu Studio, in live and downloadable.

Thank's for answers.

Laurent,
lprod.org

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Re: Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages.

2009-04-23 Thread ngerbodel
hi...

will the shipped FFMPEG b a cut down version?


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> Luke Yelavich a ?crit :
> > Hi once again
> > The technical board have decided to grant UbuntuStudio and exception for 
> > shipping ffmpeg packages on the UbuntuStudio disks. This is because 
> > Canonical don't produce any physical media for UbuntuStudio, and therefore 
> > having ffmpeg on the disks is no different to having ffmeg on 
> > archive.ubuntu.com.
> >
> > This means that the video task will be back on the disk in full, and will 
> > be expanded again in Karmic.
> >
> > Luke
> >   
> Hi,
> 
> That's a good news ;-)
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Re: Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages.

2009-04-22 Thread laurent.bellegarde
Luke Yelavich a écrit :
> Hi once again
> The technical board have decided to grant UbuntuStudio and exception for 
> shipping ffmpeg packages on the UbuntuStudio disks. This is because Canonical 
> don't produce any physical media for UbuntuStudio, and therefore having 
> ffmpeg on the disks is no different to having ffmeg on archive.ubuntu.com.
>
> This means that the video task will be back on the disk in full, and will be 
> expanded again in Karmic.
>
> Luke
>   
Hi,

That's a good news ;-)

Bye,

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Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages.

2009-04-21 Thread Luke Yelavich
Hi once again
The technical board have decided to grant UbuntuStudio and exception for 
shipping ffmpeg packages on the UbuntuStudio disks. This is because Canonical 
don't produce any physical media for UbuntuStudio, and therefore having ffmpeg 
on the disks is no different to having ffmeg on archive.ubuntu.com.

This means that the video task will be back on the disk in full, and will be 
expanded again in Karmic.

Luke


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Re: [FFADO-devel] debian/ubuntu packages

2009-02-23 Thread Andrew Hunter
Hey everyone,

Just thought I'd revive this thread and let you guys know that I was
able to get ffado 2.0~rc1 into the ubuntu archives for jaunty (9.04)
and Ubuntu Studio will be shipping ffado in the next release. As a
member of the Ubuntu Studio team, I will be responsible for forwarding
any bugs upstream and getting any fixes out.

Looking forward to a great release!

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Re: ppa with backported packages for hardy and intrepid

2009-01-02 Thread Khashayar Naderehvandi
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> Khashayar Naderehvandi wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been trying to do two things in one: Learn a bit about
>> debian/ubuntu packaging + creating a ppa with up-to-date versions of
>> some of the applications that I would use myself, that is music
>> production applications, for hardy and intrepid.
>>
>> The packages in my ppa are completely untested (this cannot be
>> stressed enough, I haven't even tested all of them myself), and they
>> are my first attempts ever of (re)packaging.
>>
>> Now, my question is: Is there any interest in an archive like this? If
>> yes, would it be a good idea to start a team for backporting packages?
>> Is anyone interested in working on this?
>>
>> Right now, the ppa holds, e.g:
>> * ardour 2.7
>> * audacity 1.3.6
>> * hydrogen 0.9.4beta2
>> * ffado 2.0-rc1
>> * jack 0.116.1
>> * kernel 2.6.24 for intrepid 64-bit
>>
>> My idea is to keep to latest upstream versions of packages and avoid
>> experimental versions. The reason hydrogen 0.9.4-beta2 is there, is
>> because 0.9.3 never worked with jack+ffado for me, and the reason
>> ffado is there, is because jack+freebob never worked with my audio
>> device.
>>
>> Personally, I think there should be a semi-official archive that
>> allows ubuntustudio users to upgrade to the latest and greatest
>> without leaving their distribution, be it hardy or intrepid. To me,
>> this became obvious when I realized I couldn't upgrade to intrepid due
>> to the realtime kernel problems. I really wanted a new version of
>> ardour, and hydrogen wouldn't work for me, and so on, so I ended up
>> compiling everything I needed locally, but if I'm doing it, there
>> might be others doing it as well, and some who don't know how to do
>> it. So why not sharing, eh?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Khashayar.
>>
>> (PS, I know I haven't included a link to the ppa. That's because all
>> packages aren't built yet, and I want to know what people think first.
>> Also, I have to come up with a way to REALLY STRESS that the packages
>> are completely untested :-))
>>
>
> Khashayar, I have been kicking around the idea of having a official
> backporter on the team which would address exactly this. I was waiting
> until after the holidays to talk about it but what the hell.
>
> If you're interested, say so. We'll try to get a ball rolling.
>
Yes, I am :-)
But, I'm really serious when I say these are my first attempts at
packaging. So I will probably get stuck with things others wouldn't...

> If you wanna chat real-time, #ubuntustudio-devel on Freenode.
>
See, here's another thing I know nothing about! I've never used irc
before. I'll turn up in #ubuntustudio-devel one of these days when I
get the hang of how things work :-)

> -Cory K.
>
Khashayar

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Re: ppa with backported packages for hardy and intrepid

2009-01-02 Thread Cory K.
Khashayar Naderehvandi wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been trying to do two things in one: Learn a bit about
> debian/ubuntu packaging + creating a ppa with up-to-date versions of
> some of the applications that I would use myself, that is music
> production applications, for hardy and intrepid.
>
> The packages in my ppa are completely untested (this cannot be
> stressed enough, I haven't even tested all of them myself), and they
> are my first attempts ever of (re)packaging.
>
> Now, my question is: Is there any interest in an archive like this? If
> yes, would it be a good idea to start a team for backporting packages?
> Is anyone interested in working on this?
>
> Right now, the ppa holds, e.g:
> * ardour 2.7
> * audacity 1.3.6
> * hydrogen 0.9.4beta2
> * ffado 2.0-rc1
> * jack 0.116.1
> * kernel 2.6.24 for intrepid 64-bit
>
> My idea is to keep to latest upstream versions of packages and avoid
> experimental versions. The reason hydrogen 0.9.4-beta2 is there, is
> because 0.9.3 never worked with jack+ffado for me, and the reason
> ffado is there, is because jack+freebob never worked with my audio
> device.
>
> Personally, I think there should be a semi-official archive that
> allows ubuntustudio users to upgrade to the latest and greatest
> without leaving their distribution, be it hardy or intrepid. To me,
> this became obvious when I realized I couldn't upgrade to intrepid due
> to the realtime kernel problems. I really wanted a new version of
> ardour, and hydrogen wouldn't work for me, and so on, so I ended up
> compiling everything I needed locally, but if I'm doing it, there
> might be others doing it as well, and some who don't know how to do
> it. So why not sharing, eh?
>
> Regards,
> Khashayar.
>
> (PS, I know I haven't included a link to the ppa. That's because all
> packages aren't built yet, and I want to know what people think first.
> Also, I have to come up with a way to REALLY STRESS that the packages
> are completely untested :-))
>   

Khashayar, I have been kicking around the idea of having a official
backporter on the team which would address exactly this. I was waiting
until after the holidays to talk about it but what the hell.

If you're interested, say so. We'll try to get a ball rolling.

If you wanna chat real-time, #ubuntustudio-devel on Freenode.

-Cory K.

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ppa with backported packages for hardy and intrepid

2009-01-02 Thread Khashayar Naderehvandi
Hi all,

I've been trying to do two things in one: Learn a bit about
debian/ubuntu packaging + creating a ppa with up-to-date versions of
some of the applications that I would use myself, that is music
production applications, for hardy and intrepid.

The packages in my ppa are completely untested (this cannot be
stressed enough, I haven't even tested all of them myself), and they
are my first attempts ever of (re)packaging.

Now, my question is: Is there any interest in an archive like this? If
yes, would it be a good idea to start a team for backporting packages?
Is anyone interested in working on this?

Right now, the ppa holds, e.g:
* ardour 2.7
* audacity 1.3.6
* hydrogen 0.9.4beta2
* ffado 2.0-rc1
* jack 0.116.1
* kernel 2.6.24 for intrepid 64-bit

My idea is to keep to latest upstream versions of packages and avoid
experimental versions. The reason hydrogen 0.9.4-beta2 is there, is
because 0.9.3 never worked with jack+ffado for me, and the reason
ffado is there, is because jack+freebob never worked with my audio
device.

Personally, I think there should be a semi-official archive that
allows ubuntustudio users to upgrade to the latest and greatest
without leaving their distribution, be it hardy or intrepid. To me,
this became obvious when I realized I couldn't upgrade to intrepid due
to the realtime kernel problems. I really wanted a new version of
ardour, and hydrogen wouldn't work for me, and so on, so I ended up
compiling everything I needed locally, but if I'm doing it, there
might be others doing it as well, and some who don't know how to do
it. So why not sharing, eh?

Regards,
Khashayar.

(PS, I know I haven't included a link to the ppa. That's because all
packages aren't built yet, and I want to know what people think first.
Also, I have to come up with a way to REALLY STRESS that the packages
are completely untested :-))

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ffado 2.0RC packages?

2008-12-02 Thread Khashayar Naderehvandi
Hi,

I had an intense flirt with ubuntustudio a while back, until I
realized my laptop was way too slow to keep up with all the tracks I
recorded. I've just now ordered a new laptop, and plan to continue
recording as soon as it arrives. I remember I had to install packages
from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive, to
get everything working before (on Hardy, which I will be using again
due to the rt-problems). So, I was wondering if there are any plans to
update the packages in that ppa? The ffado project recently released a
RC of the ffado libs, if I'm not mistaken...

Thanks!

Regards,
Khash.

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packages

2008-11-10 Thread Alex Montgomery
I have a couple questions about Ubuntu studio package oddities:

1) Why is Hydrogen compiled with Lash support (and will in fact delay
startup by a couple seconds and spew messages about not being able to
connect to port 14541) even though there's no Lash package as part of the
standard distribution or even present in the apt repository? I understand
that Lash is still young, but can't you include a package for users to use
at their own risk? If not, can you remove the Lash dependency from hydrogen
so it doesn't delay?

2) Could we please have a package for jackctlmmc? (
http://apps.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/jackctlmmc ) It's an extremely useful
but tiny application that many audio engineers are using. It's literally one
tiny source file and should be easy enough to build and add to the
repository. I've never made an Ubuntu package, but I can try my hand at it
if you'd like. The reason I ask is that it's annoying for the average user
to have to install / configure all the development packages just to get this
little app working.

I'm new to Linux audio, but not to audio engineering or Linux itself, so I'd
like to lend a hand where I can. Ubuntu Studio is an incredible distro,
thanks for all the good work!

-- Alex
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