Re: [ubuntu-uk] Curve-fitting program or package (a gnuplot example)

2007-02-25 Thread Tony Arnold
Robin,

Robin Menneer wrote:

 I've spent all day looking at loading gnuplot and fityk as well as a
 dozen of other curvefitting packages on the web including xplot and
 have found none that are simple enouigh for me to install without my
 risking messing my memory/files up.

What do you mean by these packages messing up your memory/files? I've
installed gnuplot using apt-get install gnuplot without anything being
messed up so far as I can see.

 Has nobody cleaned up a
 curvefiitting program in Ubuntu sufficiently for a thickie to run ?

Have you considered the graphing available to you in OpenOffice
SpreadSheet? It may do something simple to get you going.

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Curve-fitting program or package (a gnuplot example)

2007-02-25 Thread Robin Menneer

On 2/25/07, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Robin,

Robin Menneer wrote:

 I've spent all day looking at loading gnuplot and fityk as well as a
 dozen of other curvefitting packages on the web including xplot and
 have found none that are simple enouigh for me to install without my
 risking messing my memory/files up.

What do you mean by these packages messing up your memory/files? I've
installed gnuplot using apt-get install gnuplot without anything being
messed up so far as I can see.



In the instructions to  install gnuplot there is  a gap at the beginning.  I
could not find  how to start installing despite reading  the doc file README
as  suggested.  I've never used apt and similar commands, having been using
only fortran and basic and kept away from machine code.  Is grace any easier
- it seems to be but I could not fathom out how to load it.


Has nobody cleaned up a
 curvefiitting program in Ubuntu sufficiently for a thickie to run ?



My plea is that if you can write the instructions  logically on a bit of
paper, then they are programmable.  Arn't there things called macros that
are supposed to help in these instances ?  I can't be the only thickie in
the world, just one that complains instead of staying within the windows
camp, or just ops out.

Have you considered the graphing available to you in OpenOffice

SpreadSheet? It may do something simple to get you going.



I find  OpenOffice very satisfying, using it more than anything else, and at
first reading, the graphing (charting) facility in OO draws graphs but when
I looked into it in detail (and on several occasions because of my finding),
I came to the conclusion that one axis has to be discontinuous (like a bar
chart) so I can't plot a proper curve on it.  Your reply brings me hope that
I am wrong. Thank you for your attention, Robin

Regards,

Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] start up problems

2007-02-25 Thread gord
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:10 +, ged byrom wrote:
 I am having problems at start up. I am using kubuntu edgy. My problem is 
 that sometimes it starts up and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I get 
 pc out of frequency with some numbers in khz and hz. These numbers can 
 change. Sometimes I just get a blank screen and I can't get anything if 
 I press ctrl-alt-F1.
 It might start up 1 in 4 or 5 tries. It will sometimes start in another 
 kernel but sometimes it won't.
 I have edited my /boot/grub/menu.1st and removed splash and added 
 apm=power-off. It seemed to work at first but now I'm back to square 1.
 Can anyone suggest anything else to try.
 Does anyone out there know how I can get rid of the kubuntu screen so I 
 can see all of the loading up on a permanent basis.I know it's pretty 
 but I'd like to see what's going in and where it is hanging up
 
 

are you sure its ubuntu/linux that is not working here? might it be the
bios? 
you could remove the usplash symlink in your /etc/RC0.d/ directory to
stop usplash (the loading screen) to just get a normal text output but
be sure to backup anything you start messing with :)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Curve-fitting program or package (a gnuplot example)

2007-02-25 Thread Tony Arnold
Robin,

Robin Menneer wrote:

 In the instructions to  install gnuplot there is  a gap at the
 beginning.  I could not find  how to start installing despite reading 
 the doc file README as  suggested.  I've never used apt and similar
 commands, having been using only fortran and basic and kept away from
 machine code.  Is grace any easier - it seems to be but I could not
 fathom out how to load it.

Use Synaptic! Search for gnuplot and then install it. Presumably, you've
used Synaptic before to install stuff?

You will ned packages gnuplot, gnuplot-nox and gnuplot-x11 (for seeing
graphs on the screen). gnuplot-doc is probably essential.

Not sure about grace. I think I may have tried it some years ago.

 Have you considered the graphing available to you in OpenOffice
 SpreadSheet? It may do something simple to get you going. 
 
 
 I find  OpenOffice very satisfying, using it more than anything else,
 and at first reading, the graphing (charting) facility in OO draws
 graphs but when I looked into it in detail (and on several occasions
 because of my finding), I came to the conclusion that one axis has to be
 discontinuous (like a bar chart) so I can't plot a proper curve on it. 
 Your reply brings me hope that I am wrong. Thank you for your attention,

Thinking about it, I think you are right. And that was the reason I
installed gnuplot, 'cos I had X,Y pairs I needed to plot.

gnuplot is run in a terminal and has a command line interface, so it
does take a bit of learning to get used to it.

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] start up problems

2007-02-25 Thread Tony Arnold


gord wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:10 +, ged byrom wrote:
 I am having problems at start up. I am using kubuntu edgy. My problem is 
 that sometimes it starts up and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I get 
 pc out of frequency with some numbers in khz and hz. These numbers can 
 change. Sometimes I just get a blank screen and I can't get anything if 
 I press ctrl-alt-F1.
 It might start up 1 in 4 or 5 tries. It will sometimes start in another 
 kernel but sometimes it won't.
 I have edited my /boot/grub/menu.1st and removed splash and added 
 apm=power-off. It seemed to work at first but now I'm back to square 1.
 Can anyone suggest anything else to try.
 Does anyone out there know how I can get rid of the kubuntu screen so I 
 can see all of the loading up on a permanent basis.I know it's pretty 
 but I'd like to see what's going in and where it is hanging up


 
 are you sure its ubuntu/linux that is not working here? might it be the
 bios? 
 you could remove the usplash symlink in your /etc/RC0.d/ directory to
 stop usplash (the loading screen) to just get a normal text output but
 be sure to backup anything you start messing with :)

Or edit the grub menu and remove the word 'splash' from the kernel line.
You can do this at boot time, thus leaving your system unchanged.

Regards,
Tony.
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