Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu
Alex Latchford wrote: Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which appears to be the url of the wmv file(s) but rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv by itself does not launch in firefox, what should I now be doing? thanks I don't think firefox speaks RTSP (Real Time Streaming Protocol), so you need to use an app that does. As per previous responses in this thread mplayer is a good choice for this. Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com Long periods of drought are always followed by rain. Just change the protocol to http.. so.. http://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv Will allow you to download it to your hard drive.. In my case firefox has a player installed for wmv files and starts to play this stream in the browser. All I see is the tail end of a bbc weather forcast. Just the bbc weather logo and about 5 seconds of sound. Then nothing. wget doesn't get much. Can anyone up the ante with a better URL or an alternate method to view/download Click? (ubuntu 7.04 FF) Thanks.. Alex. -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu: Mark II
Alex Latchford wrote: Robert McWilliam wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0100 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which appears to be the url of the wmv file(s) but rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv by itself does not launch in firefox, what should I now be doing? thanks I don't think firefox speaks RTSP (Real Time Streaming Protocol), so you need to use an app that does. As per previous responses in this thread mplayer is a good choice for this. Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com Long periods of drought are always followed by rain. Just change the protocol to http.. so.. http://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/n5ctrl/tvseq/od/bbc1/bb/wm/video/click_bb.wmv Will allow you to download it to your hard drive.. In my case firefox has a player installed for wmv files and starts to play this stream in the browser. All I see is the tail end of a bbc weather forcast. Just the bbc weather logo and about 5 seconds of sound. Then nothing. wget doesn't get much. Can anyone up the ante with a better URL or an alternate method to view/download Click? (ubuntu 7.04 FF) ---Mark II--- Stranger and stranger? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/video_and_audio/default.stm BBC News 24, a live stream works as does the audio channels/stories. None of the other video channels/stories work. selective DRM? sun spots? Thanks.. Alex. -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:53:32 +0100 Jim Kissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone up the ante with a better URL or an alternate method to view/download Click? (ubuntu 7.04 FF) The method using mplayer elsewhere in this thread (See Alan Pope's email for complete instructions) worked for me (and others). Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com Hungarian proverb: If three people tell you that you are drunk, lie down. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] FLOSS links for my MP
Thanks for the links guys. There's some interesting reading to get me started. My MP is/was(?) one of the education big-wigs in his party so the school stuff is particularly useful. I'll have to have a dig about to see if he's already involved :) Kris Marsh wrote: On 6/11/07, Skeg Fast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a website/doc on the interwebs from which I can grab useful links to include in an email my MP to ask him about his use/make him aware of FLOSS? If not, does anybody have suggestions for links that I can point him to? Cheers, Skeg -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Hi, Nice to see... This http://www.openschoolsalliance.org/the-issues might be a good starting point, as well as this http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=31752SESSION=885 I wrote to my MP not so long ago, and I focused on FLOSS in schools, so this may or may not be useful to you. This http://www.openschoolsalliance.org/sample-letters may be useful to base your email/letter on and to start you off. A couple more links for you to check: http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/ http://www.opensourceacademy.gov.uk/ Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Click includes Ubuntu: Mark II
On 2007-06-12, Jim Kissel wrote:
In my case firefox has a player installed for wmv files and starts to
play this stream in the browser. All I see is the tail end of a bbc
weather forcast. Just the bbc weather logo and about 5 seconds of
sound. Then nothing.
wget doesn't get much.
Can anyone up the ante with a better URL or an alternate method to
view/download Click? (ubuntu 7.04 FF)
Below is my ~/bin/record-real-media script for recording realplayer
audio streams. I haven't tried video, but this might give you some
helpful ideas. (It gives mplayer the -noconsolecontrols and
-really-quiet options because I usually use it in an at job.)
~~
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
##
use strict ;
use Getopt::Std ;
use LWP::UserAgent ;
my ( %option ) ;
getopts(pvhna, \%option) ;
if ($option{h}) {
exec(perldoc . $0) ; # exec terminates this script
}
else {
while (@ARGV) {
my $url = shift(@ARGV);
my $mplayer = mplayer_command($url);
run_command($mplayer);
if ($option{a}) {
my $normalize = normalize_command($mplayer);
run_command($normalize);
}
my $lame = lame_command($mplayer);
run_command($lame);
}
}
##
# END MAIN
##
sub mplayer_command {
my $url = $_[0];
my $filename = time() ;
if ($url =~ /([^\/]+)$/) {
$filename = $1 ;
}
$filename .= .wav ;
my $command = mplayer -noconsolecontrols -really-quiet -ao pcm:file= .
$filename ;
if ( ($option{p}) || ($url =~ /\.r[ap]m$/) ) {
$command .= -playlist ;
}
$command .= \' . $url . \' ;
return $command ;
}
sub lame_command {
my $input = $_[0] ;
print (lame - $input\n) if ($option{v}) ;
my $command = echo \'no wav found\' ;
if ( $input =~ /=(\S+)(\.wav)/ ) {
my $wav_file = $1 . $2 ;
my $mp3_file = $1 . .mp3 ;
$command = lame --quiet $wav_file $mp3_file ;
}
return $command ;
}
sub normalize_command {
my $input = $_[0] ;
print (normalize - $input\n) if ($option{v}) ;
my $command = echo \'no wav found\' ;
if ( $input =~ /=(\S+)(\.wav)/ ) {
my $wav_file = $1 . $2 ;
$command = normalize-audio -a 20dB $wav_file ;
}
return $command ;
}
sub run_command {
my $command = $_[0];
print(CMD: $command\n);
system($command) unless ($option{n});
}
##
=head1 Options
=over
=item -h
Print this help and quit.
=item -v
Increase verbosity.
=item -a
Normalize to -20dB.
=item -p
Force mplayer '-playlist' option (automatically used for *.ram and *.rpm files).
=item -n
Dry run.
=back
=cut
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[ubuntu-uk] Lug Radio Live BOF schedule
Hi All, The BOF (Birds Of a Feather) schedule at Lug Radio Live 2007 has been announced, with Ubuntu UK meeting at midday on Saturday: Saturday 7th July 2007: * 11.00 - 12.00 lug.org.uk * 12.00 - 13.00 Ubuntu UK * 13.00 - 14.00 Lunch: Keysigning * 14.00 - 15.00 Cheaper alternatives to vista * 15.00 - 16.00 KDE * 16.00 - 17.00 Perl Mongers Sunday 8th July 2007: * 11.00 - 12.00 Jokosher * 12.00 - 13.00 hashlugradio * 13.00 - 14.00 Lunch: Keysigning * 14.00 - 15.00 Power Management * 15.00 - 16.00 Bongo http://www.lugradio.org/live/blog/ (can't find a permalink) Additionally, there will be room for ad hoc meetings arranged on the day. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LRL Ubuntu stand: call for volunteers
I've put a table up on the Ubuntu-UK Lug Radio Live wiki, for volunteers to run the stand. Put your name in any suitable timeslots (10 to 7 Saturday; 10.45 to 5 Sunday) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LugRadioLive2007 We'll need 2 or 3 people on the table at any one time, though judging from previous LRLs, Saturday will be busier than Sunday. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Hi all, I've been a bit quiet of late, but I have been lurking. One of the topics that caught my eye on the UK list was Popey's suggestion about leaflets [0]. There was a lot of discussion on the topic, then it just seemed to fizzle out. I'd like to resurrect the topic. I'm batting about some ideas at the moment for raising awareness of the Ubuntu name, so normal people (you know, Linux for Human Beings and all that?) can start to absorb it into their subconscious and eventually start to ask So what is this Ubuntu thing anyway? I've put a couple of the stickers I got with my ShipIt CDs at eye level in the local park, for example. (There's also a graffiti wall there that I think would look great with the Ubuntu logo splashed all over it, but I'm not sure that sends out the right message!) I intend to put a couple of post cards in the local supermarkets as well with specific messages targeting different audiences -- students, those people who copied Windows from a mate, those whose machines always seem to be virus-ridden, and so on. I think it would be a good idea to involved the Marketing Team on this (I'm not sure what the current status is with the DIY Marketing effort) to get their input and possibly re-use some of their existing work. Having asked a few people to ask me about Ubuntu, I got the following questions to add to the (already pretty long) list already raised in the thread: What does the word Ubuntu mean? What support would I get if I needed help? Does it have a GUI similar to Windows or do I need to learn code? How secure is it? Is Linux a passing fad? Cheers, JT [0] http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=10284127framed=y -- ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 ---+ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
On 12/06/07, James Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having asked a few people to ask me about Ubuntu, I got the following questions to add to the (already pretty long) list already raised in the thread: I shall attempt to answer some of them ;) What does the word Ubuntu mean? From the FAQ (http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq) Ubuntu is an African word, which has been described as too beautiful to translate into English. The essence of Ubuntu is that a person is a person through other people. It describes humanity as being-with-others and prescribes what being-with-others should be all about. Ubuntu emphasises sharing, consensus, and togetherness. It's a perfect concept for Free Software and open source. Here's a great article that describes Ubuntu, which may help define it. Wikipedia also has a good definition. What support would I get if I needed help? You can get commercial support (which you have to pay for) or free support from the community. If you bought your PC with Linux pre-installed your vendor may be able to help you. We have extensive online documentation. We have a malling list to ask questions on (you email your question and it gets sent to a huge number of people who will try to help) We have an IRC chat channel (like a big chatroom) We have a forum We also have a support ticket style system. The chances are somebody will know how to fix your problem. Does it have a GUI similar to Windows or do I need to learn code? Depends on what you mean by similar. It has a point and click graphical interface. It does have a very powerful command line interface but it's there for the people who want to use it, you won't really need to use it if you don't want to. You don't need to be able to code or program. How secure is it? It has a better security model than Windows. Fine grained access control and limiting what users can do by mistake make it more difficult for a virus to take over your entire system. Also the software update system adds some more protection as it will update all the core software together. You won't need to check for updates in all your programs one by one anymore. Is Linux a passing fad? It's not passed yet. And it doesn't show any signs of doing so now. Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets
Andy wrote: On 12/06/07, James Tait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having asked a few people to ask me about Ubuntu, I got the following questions to add to the (already pretty long) list already raised in the thread: I shall attempt to answer some of them ;) Perhaps I should have included the responses I sent, all of which should be corrected where necessary and may be used freely in such a leaflet, if and when it comes into being. What does the word Ubuntu mean? From the FAQ (http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq) Ubuntu is an African word, which has been described as too beautiful to translate into English. The essence of Ubuntu is that a person is a person through other people. It describes humanity as being-with-others and prescribes what being-with-others should be all about. Ubuntu emphasises sharing, consensus, and togetherness. It's a perfect concept for Free Software and open source. Here's a great article that describes Ubuntu, which may help define it. Wikipedia also has a good definition. It is an ancient African word which has no direct English translation, but roughly means Humanity to others, or I am who I am because of who we all are. It engenders the qualities of community and togetherness which make the project possible. What support would I get if I needed help? You can get commercial support (which you have to pay for) or free support from the community. If you bought your PC with Linux pre-installed your vendor may be able to help you. We have extensive online documentation. We have a malling list to ask questions on (you email your question and it gets sent to a huge number of people who will try to help) We have an IRC chat channel (like a big chatroom) We have a forum We also have a support ticket style system. The chances are somebody will know how to fix your problem. Lots! Starting on the desktop, there is a built-in help browser that gives you access to help on every aspect of the Ubuntu desktop in several languages. Then there is the official Ubuntu documentation site (https://help.ubuntu.com/) which contains some more in-depth information. Then there is the Ubuntu Community, which as an Ubuntu user you would already be a part of. The Ubuntu Community range from the users to developers, packagers and other contributors, including volunteers and commercial organisations. Ubuntu has Local Community (LoCo) teams which all have an IRC channel for real-time discussion as well as mailing lists. They also help to maintain the Ubuntu Forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org) where you can often find other people who have experienced, and solved, your problem and the Ubuntu Users' mailing list (http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users). There is also Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/) where you can ask questions, and report and trace bugs. If an application on your Ubuntu desktop crashes, a crash report will normally be submitted to Launchpad so that the developers can see what went wrong and fix it. Finally there is commercial support -- people and companies who can help you with your Ubuntu-related problems for a price. The Ubuntu Marketplace (http://www.ubuntu.com/support/commercial/marketplace) is a good source of information for these companies. Does it have a GUI similar to Windows or do I need to learn code? Depends on what you mean by similar. It has a point and click graphical interface. It does have a very powerful command line interface but it's there for the people who want to use it, you won't really need to use it if you don't want to. You don't need to be able to code or program. The Ubuntu desktop is very similar to the Windows one. It has the now-standard WIMP (Windows, Icons, Mouse and Pointer) interface and the vast majority of what you will need to do is possible using this interface. Many of the free applications available for Ubuntu (e.g. OpenOffice, Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla Thunderbird, GIMP) are also available for Windows, so you can try them out even without trying Ubuntu! There are some, usually more in-depth, tasks for which the command line is required, as is the case with Windows. The command line is a very powerful tool and is not to be feared! How secure is it? It has a better security model than Windows. Fine grained access control and limiting what users can do by mistake make it more difficult for a virus to take over your entire system. Also the software update system adds some more protection as it will update all the core software together. You won't need to check for updates in all your programs one by one anymore. In its default installation, very secure. By default, Ubuntu will not run any programs that will accept connections from other computers. When you login to your Ubuntu desktop, you will be an unprivileged user, which means that you cannot do any damage to your system simply by running applications. Administrative tasks, for example
[ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
How do I get my wireless connection in Ubuntu? Dad has been trying to set up my BT Home Hub wireless router in order to get a wireless connection on my laptop but he reckons you need the disk to install a wireless connection and the disk needs to be run on every computer and he is getting annoyed with me for saying otherwise as he thinks it is the only way to install wireless. He says the connection I have on my desktop is wired so how will my laptop pick up the wireless? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
Ive a client who has this working fine in Ubuntu , just look on the back of the BT Home hub and look for the WEP key which is listed you need to put this into your network connection for Wireless under ubuntu Nik -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:44:37 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get my wireless connection in Ubuntu? Dad has been trying to set up my BT Home Hub wireless router in order to get a wireless connection on my laptop but he reckons you need the disk to install a wireless connection and the disk needs to be run on every computer and he is getting annoyed with me for saying otherwise as he thinks it is the only way to install wireless. He says the connection I have on my desktop is wired so how will my laptop pick up the wireless? Michael, A few things: 1) As far as I am aware, you only need to install the BT wireless stuff from the CD if you are running windows. 2) On the HomeHub there will be either a WEP or WPA key. If you have network manager installed, right click, then configure a wireless network and choose either WEP or WPA depending on the HomeHub settings. 3) If you have a HomeHub, you do not need to go through the desktop to connect, the HomeHub acts as a router and access point, you connect to the desktop and the internet VIA the HomeHub, not the other way around. If possible, could you confirm exactly which disk your dad is using to install the wireless connections? Thanks, Matt. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
Bah, beaten to it... :o( M. On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:50:33 +0100, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ive a client who has this working fine in Ubuntu , just look on the back of the BT Home hub and look for the WEP key which is listed you need to put this into your network connection for Wireless under ubuntu Nik -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
I Think it will be the disk that comes with the Router. i have both a desktop PC and a laptop, the desktop runs Windows on the Internal hard drive but has Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive. The Desktop does not have a network card in it. I have a wireless card for my laptop which I used for connecting at Voxbar in Huddersfield or Jardins in Birstall where I attend a couple of LUGs but there seemed to be a problem connecting at Voxbar the last time I tried and Lindsay thinks there might be a problem with my Ralink card because she said it flashed one time she looked at it and at that time she had to pull out the card as she though it wasn picking up any Network. There seemed to be a problem with the card trying to find the Network even though it had settings for it so I may have to get a new card anyway although my sister says she has a USB device which can recieve wireless that does the same job as my card. On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:51 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:44:37 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get my wireless connection in Ubuntu? Dad has been trying to set up my BT Home Hub wireless router in order to get a wireless connection on my laptop but he reckons you need the disk to install a wireless connection and the disk needs to be run on every computer and he is getting annoyed with me for saying otherwise as he thinks it is the only way to install wireless. He says the connection I have on my desktop is wired so how will my laptop pick up the wireless? Michael, A few things: 1) As far as I am aware, you only need to install the BT wireless stuff from the CD if you are running windows. 2) On the HomeHub there will be either a WEP or WPA key. If you have network manager installed, right click, then configure a wireless network and choose either WEP or WPA depending on the HomeHub settings. 3) If you have a HomeHub, you do not need to go through the desktop to connect, the HomeHub acts as a router and access point, you connect to the desktop and the internet VIA the HomeHub, not the other way around. If possible, could you confirm exactly which disk your dad is using to install the wireless connections? Thanks, Matt. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:16:03 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Think it will be the disk that comes with the Router. i have both a desktop PC and a laptop, the desktop runs Windows on the Internal hard drive but has Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive. The Desktop does not have a network card in it. I have a wireless card for my laptop which I used for connecting at Voxbar in Huddersfield or Jardins in Birstall where I attend a couple of LUGs but there seemed to be a problem connecting at Voxbar the last time I tried and Lindsay thinks there might be a problem with my Ralink card because she said it flashed one time she looked at it and at that time she had to pull out the card as she though it wasn picking up any Network. There seemed to be a problem with the card trying to find the Network even though it had settings for it so I may have to get a new card anyway although my sister says she has a USB device which can recieve wireless that does the same job as my card. If the CD is the one with the router, you don't need it to get this to work under Linux. Matt. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:16:03 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I Think it will be the disk that comes with the Router. i have both a desktop PC and a laptop, the desktop runs Windows on the Internal hard drive but has Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive. The Desktop does not have a network card in it. Hello, Michael. Matt is right, you don't need any disk or CD to use the BT Home-hub: It's a self-contained DHCP server running Linux-derived code in ROM. All you need to do is switch it on and connect an ethernet cable to it or read the SSID and WEP key off the back for Wireless. The easiest thing to do if you have Windows on your laptop is connect from there to make sure your WiFi interface is working, then try setting it up from Ubuntu. I use Wifi Radar under Ubuntu to search for wireless networks. You should check that you can connect your laptop to the router with a wired connection if you can't detect a wireless signal. Login to the router using a web browser, and check which devices it detects. This is all very simple to do from Windows without installing *any* software, and is described in the instruction leaflet. The BT Home-hub is a very well thought out router, and I'm quite impressed by its capabilities. What you install from the BT CD's is a truly AWFUL customised version of Micro$oft Internet Explorer and BT's 'help' system. Neither of which you actually need to use the router. I suggest that you first try connecting to the Home hub with a wired connection from Windows using a web browser, and explore it's capabilities. Then try setting Wireless up under Windows first because you might otherwise spend a long time trying to get it to work under Linux without knowing if you have a network hardware problem or not. Best wishes, Tony. I have a wireless card for my laptop which I used for connecting at Voxbar in Huddersfield or Jardins in Birstall where I attend a couple of LUGs but there seemed to be a problem connecting at Voxbar the last time I tried and Lindsay thinks there might be a problem with my Ralink card because she said it flashed one time she looked at it and at that time she had to pull out the card as she though it wasn picking up any Network. There seemed to be a problem with the card trying to find the Network even though it had settings for it so I may have to get a new card anyway although my sister says she has a USB device which can recieve wireless that does the same job as my card. If the CD is the one with the router, you don't need it to get this to work under Linux. Matt. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT wireless routers. Is it really wep ? It is my understanding that wep is well and truly broken-about 53 seconds to be precise, may be even quicker now. I obtained the Bt 2091 off ebay for a friend and that had a little security code wrote on the back. Is it not useless? If so can it be changed at all? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:11 +0100, ged wrote: Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT wireless routers. Is it really wep ? The _default_ is. If you visit http://bthomehub.home/ once setup you can change it to WAP. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:11 +0100, ged wrote: Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT wireless routers. Is it really wep ? The _default_ is. If you visit http://bthomehub.home/ once setup you can change it to WPA. As Alan said the default is WEP, but it does WPA just fine :) As to the 2091 it's fine my mate runs one. By default its locked to BT, so if you leave BT its junk. However, it's been, err, fixed. A quick Google will reveal the new firmware... As for the other poster, the HomeHub is a horrible little box... In itself a cracking idea, wireless router, VOIP, DECT, Fusion, all rolled into one... And then completely ruined by BT rubbish firmware... reboots, lockups, you name it and locked to BT like the 2091... there is firmware to unlock it, but then the VOIP disappears too... All very annoying... esp. so as it runs Linux and BT haven't fully complied with the GPL to release all the source... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu
LeeUKHA wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:11 +0100, ged wrote: Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT wireless routers. Is it really wep ? The _default_ is. If you visit http://bthomehub.home/ once setup you can change it to WPA. As Alan said the default is WEP, but it does WPA just fine :) As to the 2091 it's fine my mate runs one. By default its locked to BT, so if you leave BT its junk. However, it's been, err, fixed. A quick Google will reveal the new firmware... Thanks for the replies. The 2091 I got on ebay was already unlocked. Thanks again Ged. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
