Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone

2012-07-14 Thread Paul Hibbert
André, Pete,

This script just works with the currently selected text and will work in a 
stack without a menu, it's not perfect, but could be a useful starting point, I 
think it should work OK with a DG too.

Paul

## Paste into the Main Stack script

on commandKeyDown pKey
   switch pKey
 case "c"
 if the selection is not empty then set the clipboardData["text"] to 
the selection
  break
 case "x"
 if the selection is not empty then
set the clipboardData["text"] to the selection
put empty into the selection
 end if  
 break
 case "v"
 if the clipboardData["text"] is not empty then put the 
clipboardData["text"] into the selectedText
  break
 case "a"
  select text of the focusedObject
  break
 case "z"
  undo
  break
 default
  pass commandKeyDown
   end Switch
end commandKeyDown




On 2012-07-14, at 6:15 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Hi Jacque,
> I'm not 100% sure but I don't think he has a menu script right now.
> 
> Your handler works fine of course.  However, when I tried that simplistic
> approach in my SQLiteAdmin program, it was politely pointed out to me by a
> customer that the availability of cut/copy/paste/clear commands should be
> dependant on the cursor being in a control where they make sense.
> 
> In my case, only text was involved but I ended up adding code that detected
> whether the current control was a field or not and enabling/disabling the
> controls appropriately.  Oh yes, and also enabling/disabling, the
> paste/undo command depending on whether there was any text on the
> clipboard.  It could get more complicated if you wanted to cut/copy out of
> something like a datagrid.
> 
> Pete
> lcSQL Software 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM, J. Landman Gay
> wrote:
> 
>> There were some changes made in the engine to allow additional menu item
>> parameters, but the command keys should still work. If they don't, try
>> changing your menu group into a shared card group instead of a background
>> group. That way they are more likely to receive keyboard input.
>> 
>> If that still doesn't work, the handler to catch copy/paste is very simple:
>> 
>> on commandkeyDown pKey
>>  switch pKey
>>case "x"
>>  cut
>>  break
>>case "v"
>>  paste
>>  break
>>case "c"
>>  copy
>>  break
>>case "z"
>>  undo
>>  break
>>default
>>  pass commandKeyDown
>>  end switch
>> end commandkeyDown
>> 
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Re: Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter-

Saturday, July 14, 2012, 7:32:54 PM, you wrote:

> what if I want the whole discussion thread included?

tl;dr

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Re: Modeless screens on Windows (SOLVED!!!)

2012-07-14 Thread FlexibleLearning
Coming in late on this thread, Peter, but would setting the 'title' of the
stack to SPACE resolve the problem until a fix is available?

Hugh Senior
FLCo

-- Original message


On Jul 11, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Ken - you nailed it, thank you so much
>
> I had the text size set to medium (125%).  I changed it to small (100%),
> re-logged in and the title appeared.  Just to be double sure, I went back
> to medium text size and the title disappeared again.  I will be sure to
> mention this problem somewhere in the docs for the product.

I've seen 'larger than 100%' fonts cause problems in a lot of different
windows dev apps - I'm glad you found the problem!

> Surely this is a Windows bug?  Even with the text size at medium, the
title
> appears if the stack is top-level, just not when it's modeless.  Be that
as
> it may, I can now get on with my life.

Not sure why it would not show when modeless, so if you haven't logged a bug
in RQCC, I'd suggest logging it.

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.


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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Monte Goulding

> Yep, I understand that, but the same principal applies to RunRev's
> evaluation of whether to provide this or not.  I think you'd be surprised
> at how many LC devs would put stuff into the APple store it they weren't
> stopped dead in their tracks by this and a couple of other issues that just
> aren't possible directly in LC 

Not really. Enabling file access is clearly in the realm of the engines 
responsibilities as just about everybody posting on this thread has 
demonstrated by saying I should be in the engine. How many more OS x versions 
will there be before the user will have to change some obscure setting to allow 
a non-sandbox app? My guess is no more than 2.

I'll tell you what. Anyone prepared to purchase the suite if I produce this 
bookmark external is welcome to email me off list to pledge to the fact. If I 
judge the ROI to be worthwhile I'll do it.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
Sure I learned my lesson, but what if I want the whole discussion thread
included?  Just think in this day and age of cheap disk space, 15kb is an
ancient limit, although there has to be a limit of some sort.
Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Mark Wieder  wrote:

> Pete-
>
> Saturday, July 14, 2012, 6:19:02 PM, you wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the froward on this.  My first attempt was rejected becuae the
> > email was over 15kb.  Does anyone other than me think that's so 20th
> > century!
>
> Not on a listserv, no. I can't think of anything I have to say to a
> list that would take that much text. If you hit the limit because you
> quoted the entire discussion that went before then maybe there's a
> lesson learned.
>
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>  mwie...@ahsoftware.net
>
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Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey

2012-07-14 Thread Chipp Walters
We're working on it right now. I've updated altButton so that now it uses
images which will scale with the button-- and it's all integrated nicely
with the inspector and libraries. Ken's polishing things tomorrow. I hope
we have a DropTool which raps this up nicely!

BTW, it's been tested now on multiple iPhones and Android hardware and
works like a charm. Just a few mouse clicks on the inspector and the
interface just 'knows' how to scale itself-- no coding required. :-)

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 7/13/12 11:53 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
>
>  I've talked with Ken and we think it may be a good idea to release this as
>> a free library and plugin
>>
>
> Please yes. :)
>
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Re: Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete-

Saturday, July 14, 2012, 6:19:02 PM, you wrote:

> Sorry for the froward on this.  My first attempt was rejected becuae the
> email was over 15kb.  Does anyone other than me think that's so 20th
> century!

Not on a listserv, no. I can't think of anything I have to say to a
list that would take that much text. If you hit the limit because you
quoted the entire discussion that went before then maybe there's a
lesson learned.

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Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
ANother forward becaus of earlier rejection….
Pete
lcSQL Software 



-- Forwarded message --
From: Peter Haworth 
Date: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
To: How to use LiveCode 


Hi Monte,
Some comments interspersed below.
Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> I believe OS x toolbars are under development by Seao Sean at the moment.
> Ill try and make contact with him to see if he would like help taking his
> externals to market.
>

Yes, I've seen that on the forum and have tried the trial.  But it's far
from complete and haven't seen any posts about if and when it will be
complete.  You seem to have the drive to get these things to market.

>
> I would think much of the address book access from ios would be the same
> on OS X so it may be possible to convince runrev to include it on desktop.
>

Seao Sean started an address book external several months ago, but once
again it never made it to market.  Alos, I'd probably add access to the MAc
Calendar to the list.

>
> For SQLite I'm going to ask runrev to open source or at least provide
> access to source for all their externals. I believe this would be allow
> myself and others a chance to learn some tricks of the trade that runrev
> don't have time to document. It would also allow (depending on licensing)
> custom versions to be released.
>

Getting their source code would help I'm sure, certainly as far as getting
access to useful functions that RunRev havenn't exposed to LC users.  For
example, there's one that allows you to set a callback to be called at
regular intervals duting long running db operations so you update a
progress indicator of some sort.  There's several others.

In addition to the, the library they include is around 18 months and 7
releases out of date and there have been several new features in sqlite
since than.  WAL locking, more virtual table types, etc.  I don;t know how
you can handle that since it would require a newer sqlite library to be
included in LC.  Maybe that's what you mean but "customised versions"?


> The sandboxing stuff would appear to be an obvious one for the engine and
> given it would probably take someone like mark waddingham all of an hour to
> implement I would expect runrev to pick up on this. Have a few good rants
> about it on the dev list (usually works for me).


Well I haven't ranted on the dev list but I (and I think several others)
have entered QCC reports and had zero response.  I hope you're right but to
be honest, I doubt anything much is likley to be added to the desktop side
of LC for a long wile, since RunRev are clearly putting almost all their
resources into mobile.
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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm definilty not holding my breath!
Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> I would think much of the address book access from ios would be the same
> on OS X so it may be possible to convince runrev to include it on desktop.
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Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
Sorry for the froward on this.  My first attempt was rejected becuae the
email was over 15kb.  Does anyone other than me think that's so 20th
century!
Pete
lcSQL Software 



-- Forwarded message --
From: Peter Haworth 
Date: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
To: How to use LiveCode 


See below.
Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> On 15/07/2012, at 6:56 AM, Andrew Henshaw  wrote:
>
> > Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access
> files outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks,  if an
> external existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main
> livecode product imo)
>
> Right there is the reason I can't justify doing this over other externals.
> I could probably have this done for you by the end of the week but there's
> really probably only a handful of lc developers trying to tackle sandboxing
> at the moment and of them how many will decide to take the rant on the dev
> list approach rather than buy the external. Ive been here before with
> mergXattr which as far as I know resulted in 0 sales but I implemented
> because someone was getting rejected from the app store.
>

Yep, I understand that, but the same principal applies to RunRev's
evaluation of whether to provide this or not.  I think you'd be surprised
at how many LC devs would put stuff into the APple store it they weren't
stopped dead in their tracks by this and a couple of other issues that just
aren't possible directly in LC.
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Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Jacque,
I'm not 100% sure but I don't think he has a menu script right now.

Your handler works fine of course.  However, when I tried that simplistic
approach in my SQLiteAdmin program, it was politely pointed out to me by a
customer that the availability of cut/copy/paste/clear commands should be
dependant on the cursor being in a control where they make sense.

In my case, only text was involved but I ended up adding code that detected
whether the current control was a field or not and enabling/disabling the
controls appropriately.  Oh yes, and also enabling/disabling, the
paste/undo command depending on whether there was any text on the
clipboard.  It could get more complicated if you wanted to cut/copy out of
something like a datagrid.

Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM, J. Landman Gay
wrote:

> There were some changes made in the engine to allow additional menu item
> parameters, but the command keys should still work. If they don't, try
> changing your menu group into a shared card group instead of a background
> group. That way they are more likely to receive keyboard input.
>
> If that still doesn't work, the handler to catch copy/paste is very simple:
>
> on commandkeyDown pKey
>   switch pKey
> case "x"
>   cut
>   break
> case "v"
>   paste
>   break
> case "c"
>   copy
>   break
> case "z"
>   undo
>   break
> default
>   pass commandKeyDown
>   end switch
> end commandkeyDown
>
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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
One other addition to this.  I haven't researched this fully yet but I
believe a different version of the sqlite library will be required to run
on Windows 8 than with any other platform.  I'm not sure how RunRev plan to
deal with that one since the two libraries can't co-exist in the same
binary.

There's a long standing tradition that the sqlite library is compiled into
the program that uses it, not loaded from an external library file.  I
totally agree with that for an end product, compiled application.  But for
development tools, there has to be a way of using whatever version of the
sqlite library is appropriate.  With any other programming language, I
could do that but we're locked out of the ability to it in LC that because
the sqlite literary of RunRev's choice is compiled into LC.

Pete
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> For SQLite I'm going to ask runrev to open source or at least provide
> access to source for all their externals. I believe this would be allow
> myself and others a chance to learn some tricks of the trade that runrev
> don't have time to document. It would also allow (depending on licensing)
> custom versions to be released.
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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
See below.
Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> On 15/07/2012, at 6:56 AM, Andrew Henshaw  wrote:
>
> > Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access
> files outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks,  if an
> external existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main
> livecode product imo)
>
> Right there is the reason I can't justify doing this over other externals.
> I could probably have this done for you by the end of the week but there's
> really probably only a handful of lc developers trying to tackle sandboxing
> at the moment and of them how many will decide to take the rant on the dev
> list approach rather than buy the external. Ive been here before with
> mergXattr which as far as I know resulted in 0 sales but I implemented
> because someone was getting rejected from the app store.
>

Yep, I understand that, but the same principal applies to RunRev's
evaluation of whether to provide this or not.  I think you'd be surprised
at how many LC devs would put stuff into the APple store it they weren't
stopped dead in their tracks by this and a couple of other issues that just
aren't possible directly in LC.

>
> > I use a couple of externals already to validate the MAS reciepts,  and
> provide the interface to the Intel App Up store,  but any other externals
> that opened up access to more stores would be good.
>
> Feel free to point me at high priority stores and/or their sdk.
> >
> > Other externals that would be nice on the desktop right now for me would
> include...
> >
> > - Dropbox (as previous mentioned),  because its a real pain inside a mac
> sandboxed app to use from Livecode otherwise!
>
> What's the difficulty using it other than only being able to do blocking
> uploads?
>
> > - A barcode scanner that could use the macs camera
>
> Definitely possible. How many people would like this?
>
> > - Touch screen support for Windows 8.
>
> I'll look into it but once again it's probably right in the potential LC
> roadmap.
> >
> > I really hope this works out for you Monte.  Livecode has grown to be a
> genuine option for mobile development now,  and your tools absolutely,  and
> without any doubt in my mind fill in the missing gaps and extend the
> functionality immensely.
>
> Thank you!
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Re: Storing a great many fields in a database

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
It's a little hard to decipher exactly waht your're trying to achieve here
but here's a few thoughts..

Are you saying that you want to store the default, override, and actual
values in the table row of the database? If so, that deosn't feel right to
me.  I'd split that into a default table, an override table, and actual
value table, each connected by a foreign key to the primary key of the
table that idntifies the debtor, (name/address, SSN, etc).

Another approach might be to try to group the fields into categories that
logically belomng together somehow and have a separate table for each
category, once again linked by foreign key to the m ain debtor table.
 Don't know if that's possible.

If you're saying that datatypes vary by row in the same table, that's a
definite no no in any database design, more so in anything other than
SQLite since they all have strict typing rules and you will get errors
returned if you try to insert a column with a datatype that is different
than defined in the schema.  You'll need to design your tables so that any
given column in a table will always have the same datatype.  If I
understand your email correctly, sounds like there should at least be
separate asset and debt tables.


Pete
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:

> Currently I'm using the included SQLite while I'm figuring the whole
> program out, but to stay ahead of the competition, I need to be able
> to store in the cloud (particularly, for attorneys to use "virtual
> assistants" in other parts of the countries, and to access files by
> iPad in court).
>
> Anyway, SQLite cheerfully ignores the data type entirely.
>
> I assume that I'll stay compatible with both mySQL and postgreSQL, but
> that's where the issue is.
>
> I have a great many fields that provide the description of the debtor
> (it's a bankruptcy program).  At the moment, there are 276 of them
> (and will probably be about 400 when complete).  Most of these are
> money values (decimal(12,2)).  A handful are boolean, and the rest
> text ranging from 1 to 200 characters.
>
> I need to be able to access them by name, so currently there is a
> keyword for each, and three different values for each one(a default,
> an override, and the actual value).
>
> I've been happily assigning data types in a custom property field, and
> even fixed them up today.  And then it occurred to me that I don't get
> to specify a different data type by row . . . (I have debt and asset
> information with a great many per debt, so that goes in a different
> table).
>
> Given that the "norm" will probably be a remote rather than local
> database server, what is the best way for me to structure the table?
> My 200 character upper limit seems to suggest that blobs would be
> overkill, but allocating three 200 character strings per entry seems
> like serious overkill--or is it?
>
> I could have 400 columns, I suppose, with three rows (for each of
> those values)--but isn't this going to slow down the server?
>
> Or split it into two tables, and let my get/set functions figure out
> which to use, one for currency values, and the other for everything
> else?
>
> Or will the minimum row size mean that at 200 characters each, it just
> doesn't matter anyway?
>
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Re: Storing a great many fields in a database

2012-07-14 Thread Mark Wieder
Doc-

Saturday, July 14, 2012, 3:16:25 PM, you wrote:

> Or split it into two tables, and let my get/set functions figure out
> which to use, one for currency values, and the other for everything
> else?

OMG. You have that many fields in *one* table? I think you need a
serious database redesign. Or "design", since it sounds like it was
never really designed in the first place. Come up with a database
schema, split the data into component tables, and this will all become
much easier.

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Re: Modeless screens on Windows (SOLVED!!!)

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
In view of my later email on this, yes, it appears LC is not completely
blameless in this so I will file QCC report.
Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ken Ray  wrote:

> Not sure why it would not show when modeless, so if you haven't logged a
> bug in RQCC, I'd suggest logging it.
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RE: OT: Free Shade 10 3D Standard Edition Today Only

2012-07-14 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Lynn,

I just send you an email
about this same problem.
Did you received it?

Alejandro

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Re: Modeless screens on Windows (SOLVED!!!)

2012-07-14 Thread Ken Ray

On Jul 11, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

> Ken - you nailed it, thank you so much
> 
> I had the text size set to medium (125%).  I changed it to small (100%),
> re-logged in and the title appeared.  Just to be double sure, I went back
> to medium text size and the title disappeared again.  I will be sure to
> mention this problem somewhere in the docs for the product.

I've seen 'larger than 100%' fonts cause problems in a lot of different windows 
dev apps - I'm glad you found the problem!

> Surely this is a Windows bug?  Even with the text size at medium, the title
> appears if the stack is top-level, just not when it's modeless.  Be that as
> it may, I can now get on with my life.

Not sure why it would not show when modeless, so if you haven't logged a bug in 
RQCC, I'd suggest logging it.

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Storing a great many fields in a database

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Currently I'm using the included SQLite while I'm figuring the whole
program out, but to stay ahead of the competition, I need to be able
to store in the cloud (particularly, for attorneys to use "virtual
assistants" in other parts of the countries, and to access files by
iPad in court).

Anyway, SQLite cheerfully ignores the data type entirely.

I assume that I'll stay compatible with both mySQL and postgreSQL, but
that's where the issue is.

I have a great many fields that provide the description of the debtor
(it's a bankruptcy program).  At the moment, there are 276 of them
(and will probably be about 400 when complete).  Most of these are
money values (decimal(12,2)).  A handful are boolean, and the rest
text ranging from 1 to 200 characters.

I need to be able to access them by name, so currently there is a
keyword for each, and three different values for each one(a default,
an override, and the actual value).

I've been happily assigning data types in a custom property field, and
even fixed them up today.  And then it occurred to me that I don't get
to specify a different data type by row . . . (I have debt and asset
information with a great many per debt, so that goes in a different
table).

Given that the "norm" will probably be a remote rather than local
database server, what is the best way for me to structure the table?
My 200 character upper limit seems to suggest that blobs would be
overkill, but allocating three 200 character strings per entry seems
like serious overkill--or is it?

I could have 400 columns, I suppose, with three rows (for each of
those values)--but isn't this going to slow down the server?

Or split it into two tables, and let my get/set functions figure out
which to use, one for currency values, and the other for everything
else?

Or will the minimum row size mean that at 200 characters each, it just
doesn't matter anyway?


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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Richmond  wrote:
> Aye, they do, an as far as Ah jalouse they mun put a peruke on their heids.

And I thought, per Churchill, that the US and England were "two
countries separated by a common language" . . .

:)



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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Monte Goulding
On 15/07/2012, at 6:56 AM, Andrew Henshaw  wrote:

> Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access files 
> outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks,  if an external 
> existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main livecode 
> product imo)

Right there is the reason I can't justify doing this over other externals. I 
could probably have this done for you by the end of the week but there's really 
probably only a handful of lc developers trying to tackle sandboxing at the 
moment and of them how many will decide to take the rant on the dev list 
approach rather than buy the external. Ive been here before with mergXattr 
which as far as I know resulted in 0 sales but I implemented because someone 
was getting rejected from the app store.

> I use a couple of externals already to validate the MAS reciepts,  and 
> provide the interface to the Intel App Up store,  but any other externals 
> that opened up access to more stores would be good.

Feel free to point me at high priority stores and/or their sdk.
> 
> Other externals that would be nice on the desktop right now for me would 
> include...
> 
> - Dropbox (as previous mentioned),  because its a real pain inside a mac 
> sandboxed app to use from Livecode otherwise!

What's the difficulty using it other than only being able to do blocking 
uploads?

> - A barcode scanner that could use the macs camera

Definitely possible. How many people would like this?

> - Touch screen support for Windows 8.

I'll look into it but once again it's probably right in the potential LC 
roadmap.
> 
> I really hope this works out for you Monte.  Livecode has grown to be a 
> genuine option for mobile development now,  and your tools absolutely,  and 
> without any doubt in my mind fill in the missing gaps and extend the 
> functionality immensely.

Thank you!

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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Peter

I believe OS x toolbars are under development by Seao Sean at the moment. Ill 
try and make contact with him to see if he would like help taking his externals 
to market. 

I would think much of the address book access from ios would be the same on OS 
X so it may be possible to convince runrev to include it on desktop.

For SQLite I'm going to ask runrev to open source or at least provide access to 
source for all their externals. I believe this would be allow myself and others 
a chance to learn some tricks of the trade that runrev don't have time to 
document. It would also allow (depending on licensing) custom versions to be 
released.

The sandboxing stuff would appear to be an obvious one for the engine and given 
it would probably take someone like mark waddingham all of an hour to implement 
I would expect runrev to pick up on this. Have a few good rants about it on the 
dev list (usually works for me).

So... It sounds like I've talked myself out of everything you wanted but I need 
to consider these things as there just isn't room to compete in the livecode 
marketplace.

Cheers

--
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On 15/07/2012, at 4:05 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

> Hi Monte,
> Here's some thoughts on what I would like to see.
> 
> As a generic category, anything that makes my Mac applications look like
> real Mac applications, i.e. access to the more recent native OS X controls.
> In particular, the ability to include icons/buttons/etc in a window title
> bar - I think it's referred to as a toolbar.  Another one would be direct
> access to the Mac Address Book.
> 
> I've seen the beginnings of both the above by others but they never seem to
> quite make it to market.
> 
> Another category would be access to some of the sqlite functions that
> RunRev do not expose to us and, in fact, the ability to access a more
> recent version of the sqlite library than is included in RunRev, which is
> woefully out of date.  But that's probably a bit too specialized for
> general use.
> 
> One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing
> rules. For example, apps that open files from a "Recently used" list
> violate the sandboxing rules unless it is done by establishing "bookmarks",
> wehich can't be done directly from Livecode.  I believe, but not 100% sure,
> that any attempt to use the shell command in Livecode would violate
> sandboxing rules.  Of course, that covers a huge amount of ground but
> perhaps a set of common os request that LC developers use could be a basis.
> 
> 
> Pete
> lcSQL Software 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Monte Goulding > wrote:
> 
>> What would be your number 1 desktop external Pete? A good candidate I
>> would think is bonjour.
>> 
>> --
>> Monte Goulding
>> 
>> On 14/07/2012, at 6:21 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Glad to hear it Monte.  I'm ready to buy as soon as it includes some
>>> desktop externals.
>>> Pete
>>> lcSQL Software 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Monte Goulding <
>> mo...@sweattechnologies.com
 wrote:
>>> 
 It's in the grand plan for mergExt. All sales go into product
>> development.
 
 --
 Monte Goulding
 
 On 14/07/2012, at 5:10 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
 
> Me too!
> 
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Peter Haworth 
>> wrote:
> 
>> Monte,
>> I wish someone (or you yourself) would fill your externals role for us
>> lowly desktop folks!
>> Pete
>> lcSQL Software 
>> 
>> 
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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Andrew Henshaw
It may not be complicated (to you!) but its a huge hole in Livecode for me at 
the moment!

Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access files 
outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks,  if an external 
existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main livecode product 
imo) that would be amazing.

I use a couple of externals already to validate the MAS reciepts,  and provide 
the interface to the Intel App Up store,  but any other externals that opened 
up access to more stores would be good.

Other externals that would be nice on the desktop right now for me would 
include...

- Dropbox (as previous mentioned),  because its a real pain inside a mac 
sandboxed app to use from Livecode otherwise!
- A barcode scanner that could use the macs camera
- Touch screen support for Windows 8.

I really hope this works out for you Monte.  Livecode has grown to be a genuine 
option for mobile development now,  and your tools absolutely,  and without any 
doubt in my mind fill in the missing gaps and extend the functionality 
immensely.

Good luck with it all!

Andy




On 14 Jul 2012, at 21:31, Monte Goulding wrote:

> I tend to agree although it doesn't look like it would be a particularly 
> complicated external.
> 
> --
> Monte Goulding
> 
> On 15/07/2012, at 5:24 AM, "J. Landman Gay"  wrote:
> 
>> On 7/14/12 1:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>>> 
>>> One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing
>>> rules.
>> 
>> I'd like to see that too, it would be very useful. It's really something the 
>> engine should handle, but if it doesn't, we need some way to do it.
>> 
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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Monte Goulding
I tend to agree although it doesn't look like it would be a particularly 
complicated external.

--
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On 15/07/2012, at 5:24 AM, "J. Landman Gay"  wrote:

> On 7/14/12 1:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>> 
>> One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing
>> rules.
> 
> I'd like to see that too, it would be very useful. It's really something the 
> engine should handle, but if it doesn't, we need some way to do it.
> 
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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/14/12 1:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:


One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing
rules.


I'd like to see that too, it would be very useful. It's really something 
the engine should handle, but if it doesn't, we need some way to do it.


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Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone

2012-07-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/14/12 10:13 AM, André Bisseret wrote:


Le 14 juil. 2012 à 15:13, Björnke von Gierke a écrit :


I think that copy pasted used to be part of the "standard library".
This is a stack that The RunRev IDE always attaches to your
standalones. However, in a version (4.5 or 5.1 or so) all copy
paste stuff got removed from there. Or it was an engine feature,
that they removed. Either way, it's gone, and no standalone can do
copy paste anymore if you do not include your own code to do it.


Thank you much Björnke for this information

Bad news for me :-(( That means that I can't consider any change to
my current standalone!


There were some changes made in the engine to allow additional menu item 
parameters, but the command keys should still work. If they don't, try 
changing your menu group into a shared card group instead of a 
background group. That way they are more likely to receive keyboard input.


If that still doesn't work, the handler to catch copy/paste is very simple:

on commandkeyDown pKey
  switch pKey
case "x"
  cut
  break
case "v"
  paste
  break
case "c"
  copy
  break
case "z"
  undo
  break
default
  pass commandKeyDown
  end switch
end commandkeyDown


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Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey

2012-07-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/13/12 11:53 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:


I've talked with Ken and we think it may be a good idea to release this as
a free library and plugin


Please yes. :)

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Re: grr. debugging with livecode

2012-07-14 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 7/14/12 10:20 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:31 AM, J. Landman Gay
 wrote:

If a script makes a call to a rev library, it won't break there. Set the
breakpoint immediately after that line and it should work.


Yes, but seeing how I got there . . . single stepping in card
preOpenStack, which passes preOpenStack -> skipped: stack
preOpenStack, which dumped me  in -> some other handler.

Since I was already single-stepping, this is highly unexpected behavior . . .



There's a corollary: if you step into a call to a rev library, it won't 
break either; the handler will run until the next breakpoint. So put 
another breakpoint after the place where it doesn't stop.


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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond

On 07/14/2012 08:31 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond  wrote:

On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:



What is a barrister?

It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :)


I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland,
although
we do have writers to the signet.

Do they both give advice and appear in court?


Aye, they do, an as far as Ah jalouse they mun put a peruke on their heids.



And if so, to which century do they dress?

:)



Well and true.

Notwithstanding that, my grandfather, Dr Richmond McIntosh (M.D.) was
bothe real medical doctor (i.e. not just an M. B.) and contributed to
knowldge (search for his stuff
in the BMJ on the internet).

Prior to the modern MD, there was a real M.D., just like the Ph.D.,
L.L.D., D.D. (the four learned professions)

Watering down the title was a reasonable exchange for replacing the
barbers for primary medical care . . .

I'll acknowledge and agree that an M.D. who has either published in a
journal or developed and circulated (not just patented and charged
licensing fees) is a doctor.

I have a couple of friends with joint M.D. Ph.D.   I refer to them as
"the only physicians I know who are real doctors" . . .

:)






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Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals

2012-07-14 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Monte,
Here's some thoughts on what I would like to see.

As a generic category, anything that makes my Mac applications look like
real Mac applications, i.e. access to the more recent native OS X controls.
 In particular, the ability to include icons/buttons/etc in a window title
bar - I think it's referred to as a toolbar.  Another one would be direct
access to the Mac Address Book.

I've seen the beginnings of both the above by others but they never seem to
quite make it to market.

Another category would be access to some of the sqlite functions that
RunRev do not expose to us and, in fact, the ability to access a more
recent version of the sqlite library than is included in RunRev, which is
woefully out of date.  But that's probably a bit too specialized for
general use.

One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing
rules. For example, apps that open files from a "Recently used" list
violate the sandboxing rules unless it is done by establishing "bookmarks",
wehich can't be done directly from Livecode.  I believe, but not 100% sure,
that any attempt to use the shell command in Livecode would violate
sandboxing rules.  Of course, that covers a huge amount of ground but
perhaps a set of common os request that LC developers use could be a basis.


Pete
lcSQL Software 



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Monte Goulding  wrote:

> What would be your number 1 desktop external Pete? A good candidate I
> would think is bonjour.
>
> --
> Monte Goulding
>
> On 14/07/2012, at 6:21 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
>
> > Glad to hear it Monte.  I'm ready to buy as soon as it includes some
> > desktop externals.
> > Pete
> > lcSQL Software 
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Monte Goulding <
> mo...@sweattechnologies.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> It's in the grand plan for mergExt. All sales go into product
> development.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Monte Goulding
> >>
> >> On 14/07/2012, at 5:10 AM, Mike Bonner  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Me too!
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Peter Haworth 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  Monte,
>  I wish someone (or you yourself) would fill your externals role for us
>  lowly desktop folks!
>  Pete
>  lcSQL Software 
> 
> 
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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond  wrote:
> On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:


> What is a barrister?

It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :)

>I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland,
> although
> we do have writers to the signet.

Do they both give advice and appear in court?

And if so, to which century do they dress?

:)


> Well and true.
>
> Notwithstanding that, my grandfather, Dr Richmond McIntosh (M.D.) was
> bothe real medical doctor (i.e. not just an M. B.) and contributed to
> knowldge (search for his stuff
> in the BMJ on the internet).

Prior to the modern MD, there was a real M.D., just like the Ph.D.,
L.L.D., D.D. (the four learned professions)

Watering down the title was a reasonable exchange for replacing the
barbers for primary medical care . . .

I'll acknowledge and agree that an M.D. who has either published in a
journal or developed and circulated (not just patented and charged
licensing fees) is a doctor.

I have a couple of friends with joint M.D. Ph.D.   I refer to them as
"the only physicians I know who are real doctors" . . .

:)


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RE: OT: Free Shade 10 3D Standard Edition Today Only

2012-07-14 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> No. I was unable to order and a friend managed to place an 
> order but hasn't received anything.

If you didn't get your order (yet), contact me directly.

Some orders got kicked out because of key information missing or fraudulent
information added. If your friend put in just initials, for example, or
garbage text into any fields then it got deleted.

Anyone on this list though, if you felt you got deleted unfairly as a result
of that, contact me directly and we can work out a way for you to replace
the order.

Best regards,

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Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Colin Holgate
It was introduced with 5.5, and I'm not sure if there is a limit to the amount 
of text. Too much text in the notification alert or buttons might look ugly, 
but the payload, that the user doesn't have to see, can be a lot longer.
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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond

On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond  wrote:

Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand
how
to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop)

Someone lost mine while quoting.  See the unquoted signature below.


after the name of somebody
who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a
physician, an MB).

In the United States, it is put after the name of all admitted
attorneys (we don't have a solicitor/barrister distinction).


What is a barrister? I don't think we have those sort of beasts in 
Scotland, although

we do have writers to the signet.



Whether you don't use the Dr. if an Esq., or don't use the Esq. if a
Dr., seems to have a split of opinion.

If you want to toss in *everything, it's

Dr. Richard Edmund Stephen Hawkins, J.D., Ph.D., Esq.



On writing to somebody who has "Esq." after their name one usually begins a
letter:

Dear Mr 

Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be
pompous by
putting "Esq." after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself
"Mr" and they address the envelope "Richmond Mathewson. Esq.") is to address
them in one of the

If I filed a pleading *without* the Esq. in the name in a court that
wasn't familiar with me, it would probably trigger a check by the
clerk to see if I was a lawyer.

And clients expect it; send a letter without one and they ask why the
other lawyers have it and you don't . . .

OTOH, I've never introduced myself as "Dr. Hawkins" outside of an
academic setting.  (however, I'd likely do so in response to an M.D.
who introduces himself as "Dr. Smith."  I'm a real doctor, not a
physician, and don't have the inherited inferiority complex (oddly
mixed with a God complex) that comes from the modern M.D. being a
watered down thing designed with the explicit purpose of borrowing the
respect/prestige/not-killing-people of the doctors of the university.
Having taken out one of the two key features of what "doctor" meant
for a couple of thousand years, they progressed to claiming to be
"real doctors." [note:  some are, but most have never *contributed* to
knowledge])


Well and true.

Notwithstanding that, my grandfather, Dr Richmond McIntosh (M.D.) was
bothe real medical doctor (i.e. not just an M. B.) and contributed to 
knowldge (search for his stuff

in the BMJ on the internet).


This account is dochawk instead of hawk for the simple reason that
early gmail required at least 6 characters, and my students were
already receiving email from a dochawk account at Penn State.






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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Richmond  wrote:

> Multi-Hatted you may well be, and all well and jolly that is, however,
> would you that we address you thus:
>
> Dr Hawkins,
>
> Mr Hawkins,
>
> Attorney Hawkins,
>
> Advocate Hawkins,
>
> otherwise, or simply
>
> Richard ?

I answer to so many different things these days . . .  Richard, Rick,
hawk, doc, dochawk (usually only by reference or in the program name
[which picked it up as a reference and it stuck])

Now that I think of it, I think that more people just plain call me
"doc" than anything else (which is kind of odd, as I've never
introduced myself as that; I think I can trace almost all of it to a
single introduction someone made about three years ago in which he
introduced me as "Dr. Hawkins"

-- 
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Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
hawkinslawf...@gmail.com
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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond  wrote:
> Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand
> how
> to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop)

Someone lost mine while quoting.  See the unquoted signature below.

> after the name of somebody
> who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a
> physician, an MB).

In the United States, it is put after the name of all admitted
attorneys (we don't have a solicitor/barrister distinction).

Whether you don't use the Dr. if an Esq., or don't use the Esq. if a
Dr., seems to have a split of opinion.

If you want to toss in *everything, it's

Dr. Richard Edmund Stephen Hawkins, J.D., Ph.D., Esq.


> On writing to somebody who has "Esq." after their name one usually begins a
> letter:
>
> Dear Mr 
>
> Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be
> pompous by
> putting "Esq." after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself
> "Mr" and they address the envelope "Richmond Mathewson. Esq.") is to address
> them in one of the

If I filed a pleading *without* the Esq. in the name in a court that
wasn't familiar with me, it would probably trigger a check by the
clerk to see if I was a lawyer.

And clients expect it; send a letter without one and they ask why the
other lawyers have it and you don't . . .

OTOH, I've never introduced myself as "Dr. Hawkins" outside of an
academic setting.  (however, I'd likely do so in response to an M.D.
who introduces himself as "Dr. Smith."  I'm a real doctor, not a
physician, and don't have the inherited inferiority complex (oddly
mixed with a God complex) that comes from the modern M.D. being a
watered down thing designed with the explicit purpose of borrowing the
respect/prestige/not-killing-people of the doctors of the university.
Having taken out one of the two key features of what "doctor" meant
for a couple of thousand years, they progressed to claiming to be
"real doctors." [note:  some are, but most have never *contributed* to
knowledge])

This account is dochawk instead of hawk for the simple reason that
early gmail required at least 6 characters, and my students were
already receiving email from a dochawk account at Penn State.


-- 
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Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
(702) 508-8462
hawkinslawf...@gmail.com
3025 S. Maryland Parkway
Suite A
Las Vegas, NV  89109

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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond

On 07/14/2012 06:25 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters  wrote:

So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats.

Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us.

And both Dr. (Economics & Statistics) and Lawyer.

But yes, I have a lot of hats :)




Multi-Hatted you may well be, and all well and jolly that is, however,
would you that we address you thus:

Dr Hawkins,

Mr Hawkins,

Attorney Hawkins,

Advocate Hawkins,

otherwise, or simply

Richard ?

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson.


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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters  wrote:
> So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats.

Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us.

And both Dr. (Economics & Statistics) and Lawyer.

But yes, I have a lot of hats :)


-- 
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(702) 508-8462
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Suite A
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Re: grr. debugging with livecode

2012-07-14 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:31 AM, J. Landman Gay
 wrote:
> If a script makes a call to a rev library, it won't break there. Set the
> breakpoint immediately after that line and it should work.

Yes, but seeing how I got there . . . single stepping in card
preOpenStack, which passes preOpenStack -> skipped: stack
preOpenStack, which dumped me  in -> some other handler.

Since I was already single-stepping, this is highly unexpected behavior . . .

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Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone

2012-07-14 Thread André Bisseret

Le 14 juil. 2012 à 15:13, Björnke von Gierke a écrit :

> I think that copy pasted used to be part of the "standard library". This is a 
> stack that The RunRev IDE always attaches to your standalones. However, in a 
> version (4.5 or 5.1 or so) all copy paste stuff got removed from there. Or it 
> was an engine feature, that they removed. Either way, it's gone, and no 
> standalone can do copy paste anymore if you do not include your own code to 
> do it.

Thank you much Björnke for this information

Bad news for me :-((
That means that I can't consider any change to my current standalone!

The friend for which I made this app. is a physician ; he is using it daily for 
5 or 6 years now and he has something like 600 medical files (one stack per 
patient)!!
Fortunately, the standalone I made with a previous version allows copy-paste 
(that he is using a lot) 

Well, I will see what I could do in case a new standalone would be necessary!

Thanks again Björnke 

André

 

> 
> On 14.07.2012, at 09:36, André Bisseret wrote:
> 
>> I don't think my problem with copy-paste come from the stack I am saving as 
>> a standalone ; there is only a few lines in it (to get it slowly 
>> disappearing and opening my main stack ; that works well for years now.
>> 
>> I will contact runrev
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> André
>> 
>> Le 14 juil. 2012 à 00:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
>> 
>>> Oh sorry I for some reason thought that the Standalone Debug came with GLX2 
>>> but of course not. It's a part of PowerDebug. 
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>>> 
 Bob-
 
 Friday, July 13, 2012, 9:17:10 AM, you wrote:
 
> wouldn't help anyway because we cannot debug a standalone.
 
 Except with PowerDebug, of course. .
 
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Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Richard Miller
Thanks. Seems this functionality is new to LC 5.5. I have 5.0.2 right 
now, but would upgrade if this can do what I need. I can't read the 
specific details of this function as of yet. Do you know the maximum 
length of the alertbody or alertButtonMessage?


Thank you.


On 7/14/2012 10:45 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:

No. The alertBody and alertButtonMessage let you give a brief version of the 
notification, and that will appear at the time it happens, if your app is not 
open at the time.


On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Richard Miller  wrote:


It cannot display the actual message until the user presses the "View" button, 
which then opens the app to display the message. Do I understand this correctly?

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Re: finding the mousecolor in IOS

2012-07-14 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:

> One exercise in that book I wrote is about using an image as a color picker. 
> It uses the same technique as Scott mentioned, only I then set the color of 
> another graphic to show that it has picked up the right color.
> 
> One thing to double check, the x and y values you're using, are those from 
> the top left of the image? With mousecolor you use the card position, but 
> with this imagedata technique you would subtract the left and top of the 
> image in question, unless the image is the whole card.

function relativeXY tObjRef,x,y
   -- input: x,y (card coordinates) 
   -- output: coordinates relative to an object's rect
   put the topleft of tObjRef into tl
   put item 1 of tl into baseHoriz
   put item 2 of tl into baseVert 
   return (x - baseHoriz & comma & y - baseVert)
end relativeXY

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Re: Connecting to Facebook?

2012-07-14 Thread Andre Garzia
It changed recently... I am patching my libraries but I've reached an odd
bug where the library works on iOS but not on Mac OS which is really not
the way things usually go.

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Charles E Buchwald wrote:

> I'd like to connect to Facebook to post to the wall.
> I've tried the tutorial "Accessing Facebook Api's using LiveCode". I found
> Andre's libraries for Social Networks, and tried the example stacks and
> guide there. For both of these, I can get as far as authorizing the app,
> but no further.
> I've searched the forum and elsewhere, without other useful insights.
>
> Does anyone know if the Facebook API's have changed recently?
> Have you had any success connecting with FB?
>
> So far my best alternative idea is to copy a message to the clipboard from
> within my stack, and direct the the user to FB in a browser, where they
> could then paste it. But I would prefer to do it fewer steps.
>
> Any ideas?
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Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey

2012-07-14 Thread Andre Garzia
Chipp,

Thanks for the email! I look forward to the day that you guys release this
library. Oh and by the way, that app looks good!

Cheers
andre

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> Hi Roger,
>
> I'm just using the URL Google provides for each sheet which is shown when
> you Publish a sheet. You can select CSV as the 'type' and which sheet you
> want the URL for-- and Google generates the URL.
>
> Then you just get the URL:
>
> get URL "http://googlespreadheets.com/yada/yada"; and it's returned as CSV.
>
> I'm not POSTING data to the sheet, just reading from it.
>
> Yep, I need to get the resize LIB completed-- will be working on it soon.
> Tonight I finished rebuilding altButton so it now uses images instead of
> btn icons-- so now EVERYTHING scales-- Hurray!
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Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Colin Holgate
No. The alertBody and alertButtonMessage let you give a brief version of the 
notification, and that will appear at the time it happens, if your app is not 
open at the time.


On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Richard Miller  wrote:

> It cannot display the actual message until the user presses the "View" 
> button, which then opens the app to display the message. Do I understand this 
> correctly?

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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond

On 07/14/2012 05:23 PM, John Dixon wrote:




1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname.

Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ?

Yer right mate!

Only to people who feel desperately insecure and have to bolster up 
their egos with

fancy bits popped on the front or the end of their names.




On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:

So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats.

On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote:


< snip >
The Hawkins Law Firm
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq


Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to
understand how
to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop) after the
name of somebody
who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a
physician, an MB).

On writing to somebody who has "Esq." after their name one usually
begins a letter:

Dear Mr 

Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying
to be pompous by
putting "Esq." after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls
oneself "Mr" and they address the envelope "Richmond Mathewson. Esq.")
is to address them in one of the following ways:

"Oi Mate"

"Hey You"

or

"Me Old Mucker"

Love, kisses and 'we now live in the 21st century', Mr Richmond Mathewson.


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Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks. I'm looking into this.

At first glance, it appears that... whenever the app is not running... 
this method will only tell the user that a local notification is waiting 
to be viewed. It cannot display the actual message until the user 
presses the "View" button, which then opens the app to display the 
message. Do I understand this correctly?


Thanks.
Richard



On 7/14/2012 10:09 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:

Try local notifications. This is how you set up one notification:

mobileCreateLocalNotification alertBody, alertButtonMessage, alertPayload, 
alertTime, playSound

alertTime is the Unix time that you want the alert to happen. See the help 
entry for more details on the other things.

At the time that the notification happens, the user will see a message pop up 
on their screen. If they touch the message it will open your app, and a message 
is sent to you. Here's a handler for receiving that message:

on localNotificationReceived pMsg
answer "Local Notification:" && pMsg
end localNotificationReceived

The pMsg received is the same as the alertPayload sent in, and that can be as 
complex as you like.

There isn't a way to have a notification happen that automatically opens your 
app.

Working out the Unix time for the event is an entertaining little aspect to the 
problem.
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RE: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread John Dixon




1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname.

Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ?

> 
> On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:
> > So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats.
> >
> > On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >> < snip >
> >> The Hawkins Law Firm
> >> Richard E. Hawkins, Esq
> >>
> >
> 
> Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to 
> understand how
> to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop) after the 
> name of somebody
> who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a 
> physician, an MB).
> 
> On writing to somebody who has "Esq." after their name one usually 
> begins a letter:
> 
> Dear Mr 
> 
> Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying 
> to be pompous by
> putting "Esq." after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls 
> oneself "Mr" and they address the envelope "Richmond Mathewson. Esq.") 
> is to address them in one of the following ways:
> 
> "Oi Mate"
> 
> "Hey You"
> 
> or
> 
> "Me Old Mucker"
> 
> Love, kisses and 'we now live in the 21st century', Mr Richmond Mathewson.
> 
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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Richmond

On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:

So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats.

On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote:


< snip >
The Hawkins Law Firm
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq





Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to 
understand how
to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop) after the 
name of somebody
who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a 
physician, an MB).


On writing to somebody who has "Esq." after their name one usually 
begins a letter:


Dear Mr 

Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying 
to be pompous by
putting "Esq." after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls 
oneself "Mr" and they address the envelope "Richmond Mathewson. Esq.") 
is to address them in one of the following ways:


"Oi Mate"

"Hey You"

or

"Me Old Mucker"

Love, kisses and 'we now live in the 21st century', Mr Richmond Mathewson.


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Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Colin Holgate
Try local notifications. This is how you set up one notification:

mobileCreateLocalNotification alertBody, alertButtonMessage, alertPayload, 
alertTime, playSound

alertTime is the Unix time that you want the alert to happen. See the help 
entry for more details on the other things.

At the time that the notification happens, the user will see a message pop up 
on their screen. If they touch the message it will open your app, and a message 
is sent to you. Here's a handler for receiving that message:

on localNotificationReceived pMsg
   answer "Local Notification:" && pMsg
end localNotificationReceived

The pMsg received is the same as the alertPayload sent in, and that can be as 
complex as you like.

There isn't a way to have a notification happen that automatically opens your 
app.

Working out the Unix time for the event is an entertaining little aspect to the 
problem.
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Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Charles E Buchwald
Check out local notifications, in the iOS release notes, for alarm clock like 
alarms and messages. Push notifications are non-trivial. SMS would require a 
connection.

- Charles

On 2012-07-14, at 8:35 AM, Richard Miller wrote:

> What are the options to implement a reminder system in an ios/LC app which 
> will alert the user periodically on their ios device, even though the app is 
> not running in the foreground?
> 
> For example, the user runs the app and sets it to remind them twice daily to 
> do a specific task. How can this reminder be implemented?
> 
> Some ideas:
> 
> - push notification (is this fairly easy to implement?)
> - having an external server send SMS messages to the user's device on the 
> specified time interval
> - something similar to the way various ios Alarm clock apps work... but I 
> don't know if this can be implemented through LC.
> 
> Thanks.
> Richard Miller
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ios options to create time-based reminders or messages

2012-07-14 Thread Richard Miller
What are the options to implement a reminder system in an ios/LC app 
which will alert the user periodically on their ios device, even though 
the app is not running in the foreground?


For example, the user runs the app and sets it to remind them twice 
daily to do a specific task. How can this reminder be implemented?


Some ideas:

- push notification (is this fairly easy to implement?)
- having an external server send SMS messages to the user's device on 
the specified time interval
- something similar to the way various ios Alarm clock apps work... but 
I don't know if this can be implemented through LC.


Thanks.
Richard Miller

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Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone

2012-07-14 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I think that copy pasted used to be part of the "standard library". This is a 
stack that The RunRev IDE always attaches to your standalones. However, in a 
version (4.5 or 5.1 or so) all copy paste stuff got removed from there. Or it 
was an engine feature, that they removed. Either way, it's gone, and no 
standalone can do copy paste anymore if you do not include your own code to do 
it.

On 14.07.2012, at 09:36, André Bisseret wrote:

> I don't think my problem with copy-paste come from the stack I am saving as a 
> standalone ; there is only a few lines in it (to get it slowly disappearing 
> and opening my main stack ; that works well for years now.
> 
> I will contact runrev
> 
> Best regards
> 
> André
> 
> Le 14 juil. 2012 à 00:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
> 
>> Oh sorry I for some reason thought that the Standalone Debug came with GLX2 
>> but of course not. It's a part of PowerDebug. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob-
>>> 
>>> Friday, July 13, 2012, 9:17:10 AM, you wrote:
>>> 
 wouldn't help anyway because we cannot debug a standalone.
>>> 
>>> Except with PowerDebug, of course. .
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> -Mark Wieder
>>> mwie...@ahsoftware.net
>>> 
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Re: validating "per use" licensing

2012-07-14 Thread Chipp Walters
So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats.

On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote:

> < snip >
> The Hawkins Law Firm
> Richard E. Hawkins, Esq
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Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey

2012-07-14 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Roger,

I'm just using the URL Google provides for each sheet which is shown when
you Publish a sheet. You can select CSV as the 'type' and which sheet you
want the URL for-- and Google generates the URL.

Then you just get the URL:

get URL "http://googlespreadheets.com/yada/yada"; and it's returned as CSV.

I'm not POSTING data to the sheet, just reading from it.

Yep, I need to get the resize LIB completed-- will be working on it soon.
Tonight I finished rebuilding altButton so it now uses images instead of
btn icons-- so now EVERYTHING scales-- Hurray!
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Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone

2012-07-14 Thread André Bisseret
I don't think my problem with copy-paste come from the stack I am saving as a 
standalone ; there is only a few lines in it (to get it slowly disappearing and 
opening my main stack ; that works well for years now.

I will contact runrev

Best regards

André

Le 14 juil. 2012 à 00:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> Oh sorry I for some reason thought that the Standalone Debug came with GLX2 
> but of course not. It's a part of PowerDebug. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
> 
>> Bob-
>> 
>> Friday, July 13, 2012, 9:17:10 AM, you wrote:
>> 
>>> wouldn't help anyway because we cannot debug a standalone.
>> 
>> Except with PowerDebug, of course. .
>> 
>> -- 
>> -Mark Wieder
>> mwie...@ahsoftware.net
>> 
>> 
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