[libreoffice-users] Page break is not correct with printing
Hi all, I am new to this list, and I subscribed to try to get some help previously asked on the opensuse forum, but could not get a good answer yet. I copy some of my letters sent to that list In every month I get a kind of form, an Excel sheet which should be filled, then printed and undersigned in the last row . The original document is created in MS Office 2010 AFAIK, but is saved in *.xls, not xlsx format. When I open it in LibreOffice, it looks just fine, but when it comes to printing, the last row, the undersign, slips to a new page. I was advised to use Kingsoft Office. This originally Chinese package was praised to the heavens in terms of MS compatibility and usability, so I gave it a try. Hmmm. My sheet fell apart, and while it recognized that it was edited with Arial Narrow font, the typography was simply ugly. The letters was in different distances from each other. I read a lot, including forums, so I met Softmakers Freeoffice. I installed it. The outlook is a bit vintage, but that should not be a problem. Opened my document, looked fine, but just as for LO, the last row slipped to a new page ( the original document fits on a single A4 page). Pdf export seems to work. But there is an interesting thing I noticed: Earlier we got that document for a whole year, and a month was represented by a tab. When I exported that Excel sheet opend by LO to Pdf, then the 1st, 3d, etc sheets were OK, that is, fit to a page, but the even ones had the last line on a new page. Interesting, isn't it? So is there a workaround? I would cling to LO, if possible. What is the reason that it still cannot render a not too complicated MS document correctly. I use LO with openSUSE 13.1 and KDE 4.13.3 Any hints and opinions are welcome. Thanks and regards, Albert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] the release 4.3 in PPA launchpad
В письме от 2 августа 2014 09:57:15 пользователь Kracked_P_P---webmaster написал: On 08/02/2014 06:25 AM, Lera Goncharuk wrote: Hi, The setup from PPA is deemed more important in Ubuntu user community than setup from *.deb files. A lot of people have already gotten used to setup LibreOffice from PPA https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa . But release 4.3 is not available over there up to now. This brings up the question: Will new release be uploaded? And, when it can be expected? As far as I know, Rico Tzschichholz is moderator of the PPA in launchpad.net. Thank you. I had the PPA setup, but I removed it. I prefer to decide which version of LO it have installed. PPAs, like Repositories, seems to make me feel that I am not in control of which version I use. I kept getting the message that I need to update/upgrade to a different version with the PPAs and Repositories seem to, most of the time, remove the version I am using and install an earlier one. Now that I am not upgrading my desktop from Linux Mint 16 to 17, due to a dependency issue that causes two printers not to produce the proper coloring when printing photos and image, I am not getting an updates anymore. So I do not have that problem. For now, I would rather install the exact version of LO via the terminal than use a PPA. That is just my opinion. For many, it is more convenient for the PPAs to do the work for them. So, when I decide to go from 4.2.5 to 4.3.x, I will install it myself. I have not tested 4.3.0.x on any system. I prefer to test it out on a system that is not my production and default one till the version is tested on a Win7 and/or Ubuntu-based boot of my laptop. In my opinion, PPA gives more freedom to install and upgrade, and not only makes installation easier in the system. This can be viewed in the direction apt-get, aptitude and Sinaptic for Deb-based OS. There are excellent articles on their use that enables having the maximum choice in their package system management. However, this topic is not for this list, but for a discussion in an user community of particular OS. Meanwhile, LO 4.3 realise is in the PPA now https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice-4-3 Thanks! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Page break is not correct with printing
Albert Oszkó wrote: Hi all, I am new to this list, and I subscribed to try to get some help previously asked on the opensuse forum, but could not get a good answer yet. I copy some of my letters sent to that list In every month I get a kind of form, an Excel sheet which should be filled, then printed and undersigned in the last row . The original document is created in MS Office 2010 AFAIK, but is saved in *.xls, not xlsx format. When I open it in LibreOffice, it looks just fine, but when it comes to printing, the last row, the undersign, slips to a new page. I was advised to use Kingsoft Office. This originally Chinese package was praised to the heavens in terms of MS compatibility and usability, so I gave it a try. Hmmm. My sheet fell apart, and while it recognized that it was edited with Arial Narrow font, the typography was simply ugly. The letters was in different distances from each other. I read a lot, including forums, so I met Softmakers Freeoffice. I installed it. The outlook is a bit vintage, but that should not be a problem. Opened my document, looked fine, but just as for LO, the last row slipped to a new page ( the original document fits on a single A4 page). Pdf export seems to work. But there is an interesting thing I noticed: Earlier we got that document for a whole year, and a month was represented by a tab. When I exported that Excel sheet opend by LO to Pdf, then the 1st, 3d, etc sheets were OK, that is, fit to a page, but the even ones had the last line on a new page. Interesting, isn't it? So is there a workaround? I would cling to LO, if possible. What is the reason that it still cannot render a not too complicated MS document correctly. I use LO with openSUSE 13.1 and KDE 4.13.3 Any hints and opinions are welcome. It sounds like the form just about fits on a page for the original author. Any slight difference in fonts, spacing etc. could push the last row onto a second page. Similarly, if the sheet only just fits the width of a page, the last column can get pushed off by slight variations. Even different versions of MS Excel can end up rendering the same document slightly differently. Particularly if you don't have the same fonts installed as are used in the document, in which case substitutes are used. A few potential workarounds: 1. Format Page Sheet Scale Fit ... on number of pages 1 2. Format Page Page, Slightly reduce top and bottom margins 3. Slightly reduce the height of one or more blank rows (if any) being used for spacing. Ideally get the original author to make sure the form fits on a single page with plenty of space to spare (horizontally as well as vertically), so you (and others) don't have to keep adjusting it every time. That will help ensure the form is usable across different systems and software versions. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Hyphen Printing Problem in Writer??
The quirk arises if I print and I have also sussed out that if I create a PDF using Export directly as PDF the same thing happens, i.e. a small gap appears between the letter and the hyphen. (On Print Preview the hyphens are where they should be.) I had a look at what happens when I insert a hyphen manually. On the PDF the manually inserted hyphen was where I'd expect it to be, i.e. bang up against the character, so the gap seems only to creep in when the hyphens are inserted automatically. As I said in my previous email, I don't usually use automatic hyphenating so my digging around is purely out of curiosity. Graham On 2 August 2014 18:09, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I was wrong about it being fixed in a newer branch. I saw Graham's response about it working fine in his and figured 2+2=6. I didn't realise that Frank was already using the newer branch. Apols and regards from Tom :) On 2 August 2014 16:09, CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com wrote: Hi Graham: Yes - I too always download from the website as Ubuntu's repository usually contains older, supposedly more stable versions of software. In the case of LibreOffice, I chose to use a more recent build (4.3 branch) as it has fixes for a couple bugs that directly affect my work). I use the 64 bit version, though, so there may be some difference there. As for the hyphen, my belief (based on using publishing and word processing software for more than thirty years) is that the hyphen itself should be acquired from the particular font in use, and it should look and act as if you had typed it manually, using the same exact spacing. If the text is ragged right i.e. unjustified, you should not see any difference between a hyphen you typed yourself and an automatic hyphenation. If the text is right justified, the hyphen's spacing should be stretched out along with all the other characters in the line to make it reach the right margin, but ignoring/removing the character's own right-hand spacing for the last character (in this case, the hyphen). And I agree with you that one would expect no additional spacing between the last real character and the hyphen. It's interesting to me that you have extraneous spacing BEFORE the hyphen while, in my case, the hyphen overlays the final non-hyphen character (which now that I look more closely, seems like it has not had its right edge spacing removed, giving the appearance that it is only overlapping the right half of the final character.) In my case, the actual printed output is fine, as is the output in any pdf export I make from LibreOffice Writer, so the problem would seem to be related only to the display. You seem to be suggesting that your additional spacing is on the printed output. Is that the case? If so, does it match the Print Preview display? TomD made a comment that this behavior has been fixed in a newer branch, but I haven't figured out what that means. So I guess I'm just stuck with WYSIAWYG instead of WHYSIWYG for a while (the A is for almost). Have a great weekend... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Hyphen-Printing-Problem-in-Writer-tp4116929p4117556.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Medical dictionary/thesaurus
On 08/02/2014 07:45 PM, Thomas Taylor wrote: Would someone please suggest a medical dictionary/thesaurus for LibreOffice? I've looked through the extension download site but haven't located any there. Thanks, Tom These two are a little out of date, but the worked on LibreOffice before. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.2-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/English-US-Medical-openmedspelApril-22-2008.oxt 43,000 words http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.2-installs/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/Chemistry_Dictionary__technical_chemistry_words--ChemDictOOo2011-01-07.oxt 105,000 words -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Page break is not correct with printing
2014-08-03 13:00 keltezéssel, Mark Bourne írta: Albert Oszkó wrote: Hi all, I am new to this list, and I subscribed to try to get some help previously asked on the opensuse forum, but could not get a good answer yet. I copy some of my letters sent to that list In every month I get a kind of form, an Excel sheet which should be filled, then printed and undersigned in the last row . The original document is created in MS Office 2010 AFAIK, but is saved in *.xls, not xlsx format. When I open it in LibreOffice, it looks just fine, but when it comes to printing, the last row, the undersign, slips to a new page. I was advised to use Kingsoft Office. This originally Chinese package was praised to the heavens in terms of MS compatibility and usability, so I gave it a try. Hmmm. My sheet fell apart, and while it recognized that it was edited with Arial Narrow font, the typography was simply ugly. The letters was in different distances from each other. I read a lot, including forums, so I met Softmakers Freeoffice. I installed it. The outlook is a bit vintage, but that should not be a problem. Opened my document, looked fine, but just as for LO, the last row slipped to a new page ( the original document fits on a single A4 page). Pdf export seems to work. But there is an interesting thing I noticed: Earlier we got that document for a whole year, and a month was represented by a tab. When I exported that Excel sheet opend by LO to Pdf, then the 1st, 3d, etc sheets were OK, that is, fit to a page, but the even ones had the last line on a new page. Interesting, isn't it? So is there a workaround? I would cling to LO, if possible. What is the reason that it still cannot render a not too complicated MS document correctly. I use LO with openSUSE 13.1 and KDE 4.13.3 Any hints and opinions are welcome. It sounds like the form just about fits on a page for the original author. Any slight difference in fonts, spacing etc. could push the last row onto a second page. Similarly, if the sheet only just fits the width of a page, the last column can get pushed off by slight variations. Even different versions of MS Excel can end up rendering the same document slightly differently. Particularly if you don't have the same fonts installed as are used in the document, in which case substitutes are used. A few potential workarounds: 1. Format Page Sheet Scale Fit ... on number of pages 1 2. Format Page Page, Slightly reduce top and bottom margins 3. Slightly reduce the height of one or more blank rows (if any) being used for spacing. Ideally get the original author to make sure the form fits on a single page with plenty of space to spare (horizontally as well as vertically), so you (and others) don't have to keep adjusting it every time. That will help ensure the form is usable across different systems and software versions. Mark. Dear Mark, Thank you for the hint. Your 1st suggestion did not work, but another option from the same menu sequence did the job: Format Page Sheet Scale Fit printing regions for width/height (or something similar, my locale is Hungarian) Thanks, Albert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Page break is not correct with printing
On 3/08/14 11:00 pm, Mark Bourne wrote: Albert Oszkó wrote: Hi all, I am new to this list, and I subscribed to try to get some help previously asked on the opensuse forum, but could not get a good answer yet. I copy some of my letters sent to that list In every month I get a kind of form, an Excel sheet which should be filled, then printed and undersigned in the last row . The original document is created in MS Office 2010 AFAIK, but is saved in *.xls, not xlsx format. When I open it in LibreOffice, it looks just fine, but when it comes to printing, the last row, the undersign, slips to a new page. I was advised to use Kingsoft Office. This originally Chinese package was praised to the heavens in terms of MS compatibility and usability, so I gave it a try. Hmmm. My sheet fell apart, and while it recognized that it was edited with Arial Narrow font, the typography was simply ugly. The letters was in different distances from each other. I read a lot, including forums, so I met Softmakers Freeoffice. I installed it. The outlook is a bit vintage, but that should not be a problem. Opened my document, looked fine, but just as for LO, the last row slipped to a new page ( the original document fits on a single A4 page). Pdf export seems to work. But there is an interesting thing I noticed: Earlier we got that document for a whole year, and a month was represented by a tab. When I exported that Excel sheet opend by LO to Pdf, then the 1st, 3d, etc sheets were OK, that is, fit to a page, but the even ones had the last line on a new page. Interesting, isn't it? So is there a workaround? I would cling to LO, if possible. What is the reason that it still cannot render a not too complicated MS document correctly. I use LO with openSUSE 13.1 and KDE 4.13.3 Any hints and opinions are welcome. It sounds like the form just about fits on a page for the original author. Any slight difference in fonts, spacing etc. could push the last row onto a second page. Similarly, if the sheet only just fits the width of a page, the last column can get pushed off by slight variations. Even different versions of MS Excel can end up rendering the same document slightly differently. Particularly if you don't have the same fonts installed as are used in the document, in which case substitutes are used. A few potential workarounds: 1. Format Page Sheet Scale Fit ... on number of pages 1 2. Format Page Page, Slightly reduce top and bottom margins 3. Slightly reduce the height of one or more blank rows (if any) being used for spacing. Ideally get the original author to make sure the form fits on a single page with plenty of space to spare (horizontally as well as vertically), so you (and others) don't have to keep adjusting it every time. That will help ensure the form is usable across different systems and software versions. Mark. I have had this problem caused by the font. The font on one computer was the same as the other computer (Arial on both) but the font package was not the exact same file. When I deleted and replaced the Arial on the second computer with the Arial file from the first computer then the document displayed the same. This is one argument for embedding the font in the document. It can be worse if the same font is not available or and a different font is substituted. For you the solution may be to ask the person writing the form to reduce the font 0.5 point so that everything fits on the page with extra space available. Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Page break is not correct with printing
On 8/3/2014 4:00 AM, Mark Bourne wrote: Albert Oszkó wrote: Hi all, I am new to this list, and I subscribed to try to get some help previously asked on the opensuse forum, but could not get a good answer yet. I copy some of my letters sent to that list In every month I get a kind of form, an Excel sheet which should be filled, then printed and undersigned in the last row . The original document is created in MS Office 2010 AFAIK, but is saved in *.xls, not xlsx format. When I open it in LibreOffice, it looks just fine, but when it comes to printing, the last row, the undersign, slips to a new page. I was advised to use Kingsoft Office. This originally Chinese package was praised to the heavens in terms of MS compatibility and usability, so I gave it a try. Hmmm. My sheet fell apart, and while it recognized that it was edited with Arial Narrow font, the typography was simply ugly. The letters was in different distances from each other. I read a lot, including forums, so I met Softmakers Freeoffice. I installed it. The outlook is a bit vintage, but that should not be a problem. Opened my document, looked fine, but just as for LO, the last row slipped to a new page ( the original document fits on a single A4 page). Pdf export seems to work. But there is an interesting thing I noticed: Earlier we got that document for a whole year, and a month was represented by a tab. When I exported that Excel sheet opend by LO to Pdf, then the 1st, 3d, etc sheets were OK, that is, fit to a page, but the even ones had the last line on a new page. Interesting, isn't it? So is there a workaround? I would cling to LO, if possible. What is the reason that it still cannot render a not too complicated MS document correctly. I use LO with openSUSE 13.1 and KDE 4.13.3 Any hints and opinions are welcome. It sounds like the form just about fits on a page for the original author. Any slight difference in fonts, spacing etc. could push the last row onto a second page. Similarly, if the sheet only just fits the width of a page, the last column can get pushed off by slight variations. Even different versions of MS Excel can end up rendering the same document slightly differently. Particularly if you don't have the same fonts installed as are used in the document, in which case substitutes are used. A few potential workarounds: 1. Format Page Sheet Scale Fit ... on number of pages 1 2. Format Page Page, Slightly reduce top and bottom margins 3. Slightly reduce the height of one or more blank rows (if any) being used for spacing. Ideally get the original author to make sure the form fits on a single page with plenty of space to spare (horizontally as well as vertically), so you (and others) don't have to keep adjusting it every time. That will help ensure the form is usable across different systems and software versions. Might it be feasible to explain the problem to the original source of that Excel file and ask if it could be tested in LO ;-) As Mark suggested, it might still not solve the problem if the original source has some other difference with what you have. However, it should get you closer -- and it could help spread awareness of LO ;-) [Some governmental entities in France now use LO, not MS. I'm told that Google employees routinely use either Linux or Max OS, not Windows. And Google pays software developers to support Linux development to fix bugs that are problems for them and introduce new features they want. Large organizations can do that and still save money from what they are currently paying MS.] Spencer Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
