Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You are assuming a static number of users.  LO is growing rapidly such that 
most of the users are new users that haven't had time to be disappointed yet.  

I think you are right though and that this issue should be reported as a bug 
unless it already has been.

Personally i quite like that i don't have to worry about what happens to the 
3.x.x folder and just let the installer grab all my old settings and move them 
into the new folder.  I do have plenty of space but don't really want stray 
bits dupliacted all over the place leaving future users uncertain of what they 
can't delete.  

On one machine with MSO 2007 i found MSO 2000 and uninstalled it only to find 
that took the 2007 with it.  The 2007 was an upgrade on the 2000 and hadn't 
bothered to change any names.  Frankly i prefer the 4.0.0s way to that!! :)
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Virgil Arrington 
>To: Tom Davies ; dslie...@liessefamily.net; 
>users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 14:06
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6
> 
>
>Or, people have upgraded, have had problems, and are too disappointed to 
>keep reporting them.
>
>For example, as I reported before, LO 3.6.6.2 properly loads the style list 
>in the format it was in on the last close out. For me that is 
>"hierarchical," my preferred way of displaying styles.
>
>LO 4.0 went back to the "old" behavior of defaulting to another view 
>setting.
>
>LO 4.0.4 has really strange behavior. When a document loads with the style 
>list, the notation at the bottom of the list *says* it's hierarchical (just 
>as I wanted), but the actual list is not arranged hierarchically; it is 
>arranged alphabetically. Admittedly, it's a minor irritation, but one that I 
>didn't have with LO 3.6
>
>As we now know, upgrades sometimes contain bug regressions. That being the 
>case, an upgrade to LO 4 should politely leave LO 3.6 alone, so those of us 
>who prefer the older version wouldn't have to reinstall it. AOO has done 
>this; TDF should be able to as well.
>
>Virgil
>
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: Tom Davies
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:58 AM
>To: dslie...@liessefamily.net ; users@global.libreoffice.org
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6
>
>Hi :)
>'Fortunate' like 99.99% of people!  Upgrading from 3.x.x to 4.0.x produced a 
>startling lack of bump in traffic on this list, except old die-hards 
>remarking on how well it went.  The 4.1.0-beta gave more of a bump but still 
>nothing like the start of a new branch used to produce here.
>
>If we take the ancient figure of 60milion users (am i remembering 
>correctly?) world-wide and that this is the international list and gets 
>emails from Japan, India, Iran, even New Zealand and all around the globe i 
>think we can safely say that
>1.  not so many are upgrading and/or
>2.  not many are having troubles  of course there is another possiblity but 
>LO usage seems to be growing rapidly, not dwindling!
>
>Regards from
>Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Dave Liesse 
>>To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 18:51
>>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6
>>
>>
>>Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before.  My LO 3.4 directory is
>>still present, but practically empty.  This is NOT good behavior if the
>>user is not notified first.  I'll be sure to go back and find your
>>earlier message and save it, for future use.  When there's an upgrade
>>(as opposed to a patch), I want the ability to test it before abandoning
>>my old software.  Guess I'm fortunate not to have had issues going from
>>3.4 to 4.0!
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>On 7/24/2013 08:13, Andrew Brown wrote:
>>> Hi Virgil
>>>
>>> You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two
>>> version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's
>>> own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two
>>> copies to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct
>>> install folders (by default I never allow any installing program's
>>> defaults in Windows 7, many known issues with virtual links to folders
>>> etc). And correct in your observation, as well as my earlier supplied
>>> info, LO does not do this, rather opting for a single user settings
>>> store, detecting another install of LO, and uninstalling it, before
>>> installing the upgrade (or possible d

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
Or, people have upgraded, have had problems, and are too disappointed to 
keep reporting them.


For example, as I reported before, LO 3.6.6.2 properly loads the style list 
in the format it was in on the last close out. For me that is 
"hierarchical," my preferred way of displaying styles.


LO 4.0 went back to the "old" behavior of defaulting to another view 
setting.


LO 4.0.4 has really strange behavior. When a document loads with the style 
list, the notation at the bottom of the list *says* it's hierarchical (just 
as I wanted), but the actual list is not arranged hierarchically; it is 
arranged alphabetically. Admittedly, it's a minor irritation, but one that I 
didn't have with LO 3.6


As we now know, upgrades sometimes contain bug regressions. That being the 
case, an upgrade to LO 4 should politely leave LO 3.6 alone, so those of us 
who prefer the older version wouldn't have to reinstall it. AOO has done 
this; TDF should be able to as well.


Virgil


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Davies

Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:58 AM
To: dslie...@liessefamily.net ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

Hi :)
'Fortunate' like 99.99% of people!  Upgrading from 3.x.x to 4.0.x produced a 
startling lack of bump in traffic on this list, except old die-hards 
remarking on how well it went.  The 4.1.0-beta gave more of a bump but still 
nothing like the start of a new branch used to produce here.


If we take the ancient figure of 60milion users (am i remembering 
correctly?) world-wide and that this is the international list and gets 
emails from Japan, India, Iran, even New Zealand and all around the globe i 
think we can safely say that

1.  not so many are upgrading and/or
2.  not many are having troubles  of course there is another possiblity but 
LO usage seems to be growing rapidly, not dwindling!


Regards from
Tom :)







From: Dave Liesse 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 18:51
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6


Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before.  My LO 3.4 directory is
still present, but practically empty.  This is NOT good behavior if the
user is not notified first.  I'll be sure to go back and find your
earlier message and save it, for future use.  When there's an upgrade
(as opposed to a patch), I want the ability to test it before abandoning
my old software.  Guess I'm fortunate not to have had issues going from
3.4 to 4.0!

Dave


On 7/24/2013 08:13, Andrew Brown wrote:

Hi Virgil

You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two
version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's
own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two
copies to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct
install folders (by default I never allow any installing program's
defaults in Windows 7, many known issues with virtual links to folders
etc). And correct in your observation, as well as my earlier supplied
info, LO does not do this, rather opting for a single user settings
store, detecting another install of LO, and uninstalling it, before
installing the upgrade (or possible downgrade). But this is not a bad
thing though, as covered by other respondees.

The link I supplied in my earlier email shows one how to overcome this
issue of LO and a universal store, allowing for two versions
simultaneous and operational on Windows 7.

Regards

Andrew



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-25 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
'Fortunate' like 99.99% of people!  Upgrading from 3.x.x to 4.0.x produced a 
startling lack of bump in traffic on this list, except old die-hards remarking 
on how well it went.  The 4.1.0-beta gave more of a bump but still nothing like 
the start of a new branch used to produce here.  

If we take the ancient figure of 60milion users (am i remembering correctly?) 
world-wide and that this is the international list and gets emails from Japan, 
India, Iran, even New Zealand and all around the globe i think we can safely 
say that 
1.  not so many are upgrading and/or
2.  not many are having troubles  of course there is another possiblity but LO 
usage seems to be growing rapidly, not dwindling!  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Dave Liesse 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013, 18:51
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6
> 
>
>Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before.  My LO 3.4 directory is 
>still present, but practically empty.  This is NOT good behavior if the 
>user is not notified first.  I'll be sure to go back and find your 
>earlier message and save it, for future use.  When there's an upgrade 
>(as opposed to a patch), I want the ability to test it before abandoning 
>my old software.  Guess I'm fortunate not to have had issues going from 
>3.4 to 4.0!
>
>Dave
>
>
>On 7/24/2013 08:13, Andrew Brown wrote:
>> Hi Virgil
>>
>> You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two 
>> version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's 
>> own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two 
>> copies to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct 
>> install folders (by default I never allow any installing program's 
>> defaults in Windows 7, many known issues with virtual links to folders 
>> etc). And correct in your observation, as well as my earlier supplied 
>> info, LO does not do this, rather opting for a single user settings 
>> store, detecting another install of LO, and uninstalling it, before 
>> installing the upgrade (or possible downgrade). But this is not a bad 
>> thing though, as covered by other respondees.
>>
>> The link I supplied in my earlier email shows one how to overcome this 
>> issue of LO and a universal store, allowing for two versions 
>> simultaneous and operational on Windows 7.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Andrew
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-24 Thread Dave Liesse
Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before.  My LO 3.4 directory is 
still present, but practically empty.  This is NOT good behavior if the 
user is not notified first.  I'll be sure to go back and find your 
earlier message and save it, for future use.  When there's an upgrade 
(as opposed to a patch), I want the ability to test it before abandoning 
my old software.  Guess I'm fortunate not to have had issues going from 
3.4 to 4.0!


Dave


On 7/24/2013 08:13, Andrew Brown wrote:

Hi Virgil

You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two 
version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's 
own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two 
copies to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct 
install folders (by default I never allow any installing program's 
defaults in Windows 7, many known issues with virtual links to folders 
etc). And correct in your observation, as well as my earlier supplied 
info, LO does not do this, rather opting for a single user settings 
store, detecting another install of LO, and uninstalling it, before 
installing the upgrade (or possible downgrade). But this is not a bad 
thing though, as covered by other respondees.


The link I supplied in my earlier email shows one how to overcome this 
issue of LO and a universal store, allowing for two versions 
simultaneous and operational on Windows 7.


Regards

Andrew



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-24 Thread Andrew Brown

Hi Virgil

You have observed correctly. I have just done a test of installing two 
version of AOO under Windows 7, and quite correctly, it installs it's 
own local cache/store of settings, per version, thus allowing two copies 
to work side by side, as long as you create two distinct install folders 
(by default I never allow any installing program's defaults in Windows 
7, many known issues with virtual links to folders etc). And correct in 
your observation, as well as my earlier supplied info, LO does not do 
this, rather opting for a single user settings store, detecting another 
install of LO, and uninstalling it, before installing the upgrade (or 
possible downgrade). But this is not a bad thing though, as covered by 
other respondees.


The link I supplied in my earlier email shows one how to overcome this 
issue of LO and a universal store, allowing for two versions 
simultaneous and operational on Windows 7.


Regards

Andrew

On 24/07/2013 01:56 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:

Stuart wrote,

Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the 
LibreOffice installer behaves by default. If you need it to do 
>something else you have to do more than click on the installer.  
And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer behaves exactly the >same, 
but is less functional in migrating user settings and supporting 
extensions.


But, in my experience, the AOO installer did *not* behave "exactly the 
same." When installing AOO 4.0, the installer appears to have left AOO 
3.4.1 alone. Both appear on my system, properly in their respective 
folders. Both still appear on my desktop, and I can run either one as 
I wish. I confess I have no idea what's happening down the rabbit 
hole, but on the surface, I have two versions of AOO running side by 
side on my system.


By contrast, LO 4 *deleted* nearly everything in my "Program Files 
(x86)\LibreOffice 3.6" folder and installed LO 4 into a *new* folder, 
called "Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4" folder. I can understand 
overwriting older versions of software *in the same folder* but when a 
new version creates a new folder, then it should leave the older 
version alone just as AOO seems to do.


Also, when installing AOO 4, I was asked if I wanted to migrate my 
user settings from v. 3.4.1. LO didn't ask; it just did it.


Virgil




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-24 Thread Virgil Arrington

Stuart wrote,

Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the LibreOffice 
installer behaves by default. If you need it to do >something else you have 
to do more than click on the installer.  And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice 
installer behaves exactly the >same, but is less functional in migrating 
user settings and supporting extensions.


But, in my experience, the AOO installer did *not* behave "exactly the 
same." When installing AOO 4.0, the installer appears to have left AOO 3.4.1 
alone. Both appear on my system, properly in their respective folders. Both 
still appear on my desktop, and I can run either one as I wish. I confess I 
have no idea what's happening down the rabbit hole, but on the surface, I 
have two versions of AOO running side by side on my system.


By contrast, LO 4 *deleted* nearly everything in my "Program Files 
(x86)\LibreOffice 3.6" folder and installed LO 4 into a *new* folder, called 
"Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4" folder. I can understand overwriting 
older versions of software *in the same folder* but when a new version 
creates a new folder, then it should leave the older version alone just as 
AOO seems to do.


Also, when installing AOO 4, I was asked if I wanted to migrate my user 
settings from v. 3.4.1. LO didn't ask; it just did it.


Virgil 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-24 Thread Andrew Brown

Folks

This is a normal function of Windows 7/8 and LO. When installing one 
version higher or lower, it is coded to use a central store in this 
hidden by default location "C:\Users\name>\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\user\config". So installing two 
versions will use the same default store and challenge and change this 
store of the global settings.


This link will show you how to overcome this as I have done with 4.0.42 
and 4.1.0.3 running simultaneously  in a windows environment 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel. The web link 
supplied explains on how to relocate the global settings into the second 
version of LO installed so as not to create any conflicts.


Although I have never attempted this with AOO, I am sure a similiar 
process can be found on their website and done. As per above my LO 
version global setting are now located as such 
C:\Applications\LibreOffice 4.1\Data\settings\user\config.


Regards

Andrew

On 24/07/2013 03:26 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I think Win7 may think LO 4.x is the upgrade to 3.x and decide that to 
install the newer version it must uninstall the older one.  I have 
noticed that with a lot of packages lately.  Win7 deletes any previous 
versions of the software before the newer one is installed.


To be honest
For most users, they would want that to happen.  The "average" user 
does not want multiple versions of a package installed on a Windows 
system.  So, I would say that Win7 or even Win8, might thing it is a 
proper thing to do, uninstall old before new is installed to avoid 
package conflicts or mis-matched DLL files, etc., etc..





On 07/23/2013 09:01 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Virgil,

Not sure how far down the rabbit hole you'd like to go, but the 
simple truth is that full installs of LibreOffice 3.x and LibreOffice 
4.x use identical components of Microsoft Windows registry and system 
paths and are mutually exclusive.


One can happily run multiple versions of LibreOffice (or a mix of 
LibreOffice and OpenOffice), but they will not be fully integrated 
with Microsoft Windows OS--and at any given time only one can be 
fully integrated with the Windows OS.


Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the 
LibreOffice installer behaves by default. If you need it to do 
something else you have to do more than click on the installer. And, 
fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer behaves exactly the same, but is 
less functional in migrating user settings and supporting extensions.


Stuart


From: Virgil Arrington [cuyfa...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:52 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I 
installed both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.


Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously 
tried an earlier release in the LO 4 series.


When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to 
uninstall my previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some 
problems with LO 4, I uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.


On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I 
had inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, 
today, when I installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I 
did not check any box indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.


Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 
3.6.6.2 disappeared.


Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to 
me now twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did.


If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the 
TDF developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no 
longer want LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think 
for you” behavior I would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.


btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am 
able to run both programs.


Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-23 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


I think Win7 may think LO 4.x is the upgrade to 3.x and decide that to 
install the newer version it must uninstall the older one.  I have 
noticed that with a lot of packages lately.  Win7 deletes any previous 
versions of the software before the newer one is installed.


To be honest
For most users, they would want that to happen.  The "average" user does 
not want multiple versions of a package installed on a Windows system.  
So, I would say that Win7 or even Win8, might thing it is a proper thing 
to do, uninstall old before new is installed to avoid package conflicts 
or mis-matched DLL files, etc., etc..





On 07/23/2013 09:01 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Virgil,

Not sure how far down the rabbit hole you'd like to go, but the simple truth is 
that full installs of LibreOffice 3.x and LibreOffice 4.x use identical 
components of Microsoft Windows registry and system paths and are mutually 
exclusive.

One can happily run multiple versions of LibreOffice (or a mix of LibreOffice 
and OpenOffice), but they will not be fully integrated with Microsoft Windows 
OS--and at any given time only one can be fully integrated with the Windows OS.

Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the LibreOffice 
installer behaves by default. If you need it to do something else you have to 
do more than click on the installer.  And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer 
behaves exactly the same, but is less functional in migrating user settings and 
supporting extensions.

Stuart


From: Virgil Arrington [cuyfa...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:52 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed 
both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.

Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an 
earlier release in the LO 4 series.

When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to uninstall my 
previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some problems with LO 4, I 
uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.

On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I had 
inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, today, when I 
installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I did not check any box 
indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.

Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 3.6.6.2 
disappeared.

Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to me now 
twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did.

If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the TDF 
developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no longer want 
LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think for you” behavior I 
would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.

btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am able to run 
both programs.

Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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RE: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-23 Thread V Stuart Foote
Virgil,

Not sure how far down the rabbit hole you'd like to go, but the simple truth is 
that full installs of LibreOffice 3.x and LibreOffice 4.x use identical 
components of Microsoft Windows registry and system paths and are mutually 
exclusive.

One can happily run multiple versions of LibreOffice (or a mix of LibreOffice 
and OpenOffice), but they will not be fully integrated with Microsoft Windows 
OS--and at any given time only one can be fully integrated with the Windows OS.

Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the LibreOffice 
installer behaves by default. If you need it to do something else you have to 
do more than click on the installer.  And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer 
behaves exactly the same, but is less functional in migrating user settings and 
supporting extensions.

Stuart


From: Virgil Arrington [cuyfa...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:52 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed 
both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.

Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an 
earlier release in the LO 4 series.

When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to uninstall my 
previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some problems with LO 4, I 
uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.

On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I had 
inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, today, when I 
installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I did not check any box 
indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.

Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 3.6.6.2 
disappeared.

Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to me now 
twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did.

If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the TDF 
developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no longer want 
LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think for you” behavior I 
would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.

btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am able to run 
both programs.

Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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[libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed 
both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine.

Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an 
earlier release in the LO 4 series.

When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to uninstall my 
previous version of LO 3.6. After encountering some problems with LO 4, I 
uninstalled it and reinstalled LO 3.6.

On the prior occasion, I just assumed that, when installing LO 4, I had 
inadvertently clicked some option to uninstall the old 3.6. So, today, when I 
installed LO 4, I was very careful to make sure that I did not check any box 
indicating my desire to uninstall LO 3.6.6.2.

Nevertheless, LO 4 installed and, once again, my installation of LO 3.6.6.2 
disappeared.

Does anyone know if this is intentional behavior? It has happened to me now 
twice, and I’m 90% certain that it was not due to anything I did. 

If it is intentional, I find it most offensive. I can’t believe the TDF 
developers would be so presumptuous as to decide for me that I no longer want 
LO 3.6 on my system. This is the type of “let us think for you” behavior I 
would expect from MS, not from a FOSS project.

btw, AOO 4.0 installed quite nicely *next to* AOO 3.4.1, and I am able to run 
both programs.

Sorry, TDF, but on this one I have to give AOO a +1.

Virgil
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