Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-17 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Sorry Tom, but I installed the one I always use for initial Java install 
before I install LO.


As I id say, I hope to get access to the laptop soon to connect it to 
the Net and work on the problem[s].  Then I can get all of the Win7 
updates and get the utility software as well.


On 02/16/2012 08:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Hmm, weird.  Perhaps it's too high a version of java?  Is it using a more 
recent version than 6u21?
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 17/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 0:20


Her laptop is faster than my quad.  It is a desktop replacement.

There is hardly any space used on the drive itself.  She has not had
time to place anything on it.

I wish I had a machine as fast as her laptop.

I still have to add Virus protection and other utilities as well.  LO
was the first package to be installed on the thing.  I added some video
files [less than 3 Gig total] to the laptop so she could watch them later.

So I doubt it is an issue with a too full system or one needing to be
defragged, etc., etc..  She has had it less than 1 week and I said, I
was the first one to place anything on the drive.  She does not even
have Internet yet.

On 02/16/2012 09:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sounds like her machine was just being a bit slow.  If that is Windows then perhaps 
defrag, Disk Clean-up, perhaps uninstall the 2nd and 3rd antivirus program.  
Watch out for auto-scans and defrags.  Empty the wastebin and the wastebin of the 
emailing program she uses.  Windows performance seems to suddenly drop off if the 'drive' 
is over 80% full.  If the defragger shows 21% free space then that is about as good as it 
gets unless you can get it right down to almost nothing on the hard-drive (unlikely) when 
there seems to be another slight boost in performance.  Set the virtual memory to a fixed 
size about 2xRam or a little less, anything over Ram but below 2xRam is about perfect.  
The virtual memory is probably heavily fragmented as it's been randomly changing size and 
throwing bits of itself all over the drive.  Setting it to a fixed size stops it getting 
worse.  The standard Windows defragger can't do system-files, such as the virtual
memory (pagefile.sys on Xp and earlier), which are usually the ones that 
make the biggest difference.  Hmmm, ideally a reinstall of Windows and then set the 
virtual memory might be best but it takes a LOT of time to install all the other programs 
and tweak and update everything.  Maybe LO took her just over the 80%?

On pretty much any OS check what processes start-up when the machine is booted up and when scheduled tasks are due to run.  I tend to switch all that off (or at least the bits i know how to do myself, such as defrags, updates and antivirus-scans) and then try to remember to do maintenance tasks at a time to suit myself.   


Regards from
Tom :)


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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 12:36

I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a lady.  
She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.

But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon and the windows came up empty 
with a not responding text in the pop up window name.

Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

Any idea how to fix this?

I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the issue 
was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add more free 
software to her brand new laptop.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I know LibreOffice 3.5.0 can use java 1.7 but i doubt that has been back-ported 
to all other releases that people are using out there.  Java is going to be a 
problem until we can get rid of any dependence on it completely.  It's not our 
devs fault that Oracle can't write something that isn't broken and vulnerable 
before Oracle release it.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 17/2/12, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote:

From: V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 1:47

Tom,

It is buried down in the Dev list, but the LibO BASE JDBC performance issues 
with the Java JRE are fixed by changes to the JDBC driver to reduce JNI 
Attach/DetachThread cycles, the 35023 bug 
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35023 ) is closed.

We should no longer be pusing the JRE 1.6u21--current JRE 1.6u31 or 1.7u3 are 
fully acceptable.

Look elseware for the issue with spell check.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:16 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

Hi :)
Hmm, weird.  Perhaps it's too high a version of java?  Is it using a more 
recent version than 6u21?
Regards from
Tom :)




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RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-17 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

No. You've misunderstood the whole Java JRE and BASE HSQLDB performance issue. 
Problem is not and never was with the Sun/Oracle Java JRE. The past problem 
with LibO and OOo HSQLDB performance was with process thread creation in the 
LibO/OOo JDBC interface.

The dev patch (by Stephen Bergmann) for Bug 35023 Base functions extremely 
slowly with Java 1.6.0_20 and 1.6.0_24 has been applied to the 3.5.0 core, 
and may make it into 3.4.6; but use of a 1.6u21 JRE was only a work around for 
LibO's BASE native HSQLDB 1.8 performance issues as that version of the JRE 
handled needed threads differently. 

Use of Java JRE 1.7 (with Oracle Corp ownership strings) was back ported to 
3.4.5--so no issue there. Look for issues with spell check elsewhere.

Stuart 

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:05 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

Hi :)
I know LibreOffice 3.5.0 can use java 1.7 but i doubt that has been back-ported 
to all other releases that people are using out there.  Java is going to be a 
problem until we can get rid of any dependence on it completely.  It's not our 
devs fault that Oracle can't write something that isn't broken and vulnerable 
before Oracle release it. Regards from Tom :)


--- On Fri, 17/2/12, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote:

From: V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 1:47

Tom,

It is buried down in the Dev list, but the LibO BASE JDBC performance issues 
with the Java JRE are fixed by changes to the JDBC driver to reduce JNI 
Attach/DetachThread cycles, the 35023 bug 
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35023 ) is closed.

We should no longer be pusing the JRE 1.6u21--current JRE 1.6u31 or 1.7u3 are 
fully acceptable.

Look elseware for the issue with spell check.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sounds like her machine was just being a bit slow.  If that is Windows then 
perhaps defrag, Disk Clean-up, perhaps uninstall the 2nd and 3rd antivirus 
program.  Watch out for auto-scans and defrags.  Empty the wastebin and the 
wastebin of the emailing program she uses.  Windows performance seems to 
suddenly drop off if the 'drive' is over 80% full.  If the defragger shows 21% 
free space then that is about as good as it gets unless you can get it right 
down to almost nothing on the hard-drive (unlikely) when there seems to be 
another slight boost in performance.  Set the virtual memory to a fixed size 
about 2xRam or a little less, anything over Ram but below 2xRam is about 
perfect.  The virtual memory is probably heavily fragmented as it's been 
randomly changing size and throwing bits of itself all over the drive.  Setting 
it to a fixed size stops it getting worse.  The standard Windows defragger 
can't do system-files, such as the virtual
 memory (pagefile.sys on Xp and earlier), which are usually the ones that 
make the biggest difference.  Hmmm, ideally a reinstall of Windows and then set 
the virtual memory might be best but it takes a LOT of time to install all the 
other programs and tweak and update everything.  Maybe LO took her just over 
the 80%?

On pretty much any OS check what processes start-up when the machine is booted 
up and when scheduled tasks are due to run.  I tend to switch all that off (or 
at least the bits i know how to do myself, such as defrags, updates and 
antivirus-scans) and then try to remember to do maintenance tasks at a time to 
suit myself.    

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 16/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 12:36

I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a lady.  
She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.

But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon and the 
windows came up empty with a not responding text in the pop up window name.

Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

Any idea how to fix this?

I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the issue 
was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add more free 
software to her brand new laptop.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Her laptop is faster than my quad.  It is a desktop replacement.

There is hardly any space used on the drive itself.  She has not had 
time to place anything on it.


I wish I had a machine as fast as her laptop.

I still have to add Virus protection and other utilities as well.  LO 
was the first package to be installed on the thing.  I added some video 
files [less than 3 Gig total] to the laptop so she could watch them later.


So I doubt it is an issue with a too full system or one needing to be 
defragged, etc., etc..  She has had it less than 1 week and I said, I 
was the first one to place anything on the drive.  She does not even 
have Internet yet.


On 02/16/2012 09:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Sounds like her machine was just being a bit slow.  If that is Windows then perhaps 
defrag, Disk Clean-up, perhaps uninstall the 2nd and 3rd antivirus program.  
Watch out for auto-scans and defrags.  Empty the wastebin and the wastebin of the 
emailing program she uses.  Windows performance seems to suddenly drop off if the 'drive' 
is over 80% full.  If the defragger shows 21% free space then that is about as good as it 
gets unless you can get it right down to almost nothing on the hard-drive (unlikely) when 
there seems to be another slight boost in performance.  Set the virtual memory to a fixed 
size about 2xRam or a little less, anything over Ram but below 2xRam is about perfect.  
The virtual memory is probably heavily fragmented as it's been randomly changing size and 
throwing bits of itself all over the drive.  Setting it to a fixed size stops it getting 
worse.  The standard Windows defragger can't do system-files, such as the virtual
  memory (pagefile.sys on Xp and earlier), which are usually the ones that 
make the biggest difference.  Hmmm, ideally a reinstall of Windows and then set the 
virtual memory might be best but it takes a LOT of time to install all the other programs 
and tweak and update everything.  Maybe LO took her just over the 80%?

On pretty much any OS check what processes start-up when the machine is booted up and when scheduled tasks are due to run.  I tend to switch all that off (or at least the bits i know how to do myself, such as defrags, updates and antivirus-scans) and then try to remember to do maintenance tasks at a time to suit myself.   


Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 16/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 12:36

I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a lady.  
She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.

But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon and the windows came up empty 
with a not responding text in the pop up window name.

Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

Any idea how to fix this?

I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the issue 
was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add more free 
software to her brand new laptop.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Hmm, weird.  Perhaps it's too high a version of java?  Is it using a more 
recent version than 6u21?
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 17/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 17 February, 2012, 0:20


Her laptop is faster than my quad.  It is a desktop replacement.

There is hardly any space used on the drive itself.  She has not had 
time to place anything on it.

I wish I had a machine as fast as her laptop.

I still have to add Virus protection and other utilities as well.  LO 
was the first package to be installed on the thing.  I added some video 
files [less than 3 Gig total] to the laptop so she could watch them later.

So I doubt it is an issue with a too full system or one needing to be 
defragged, etc., etc..  She has had it less than 1 week and I said, I 
was the first one to place anything on the drive.  She does not even 
have Internet yet.

On 02/16/2012 09:30 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Sounds like her machine was just being a bit slow.  If that is Windows then 
 perhaps defrag, Disk Clean-up, perhaps uninstall the 2nd and 3rd antivirus 
 program.  Watch out for auto-scans and defrags.  Empty the wastebin and the 
 wastebin of the emailing program she uses.  Windows performance seems to 
 suddenly drop off if the 'drive' is over 80% full.  If the defragger shows 
 21% free space then that is about as good as it gets unless you can get it 
 right down to almost nothing on the hard-drive (unlikely) when there seems to 
 be another slight boost in performance.  Set the virtual memory to a fixed 
 size about 2xRam or a little less, anything over Ram but below 2xRam is about 
 perfect.  The virtual memory is probably heavily fragmented as it's been 
 randomly changing size and throwing bits of itself all over the drive.  
 Setting it to a fixed size stops it getting worse.  The standard Windows 
 defragger can't do system-files, such as the virtual
   memory (pagefile.sys on Xp and earlier), which are usually the ones that 
make the biggest difference.  Hmmm, ideally a reinstall of Windows and then 
set the virtual memory might be best but it takes a LOT of time to install all 
the other programs and tweak and update everything.  Maybe LO took her just 
over the 80%?

 On pretty much any OS check what processes start-up when the machine is 
 booted up and when scheduled tasks are due to run.  I tend to switch all that 
 off (or at least the bits i know how to do myself, such as defrags, updates 
 and antivirus-scans) and then try to remember to do maintenance tasks at a 
 time to suit myself.   

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Thu, 16/2/12, webmaster for Kracked Press 
 Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com  wrote:

 From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working
 To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 16 February, 2012, 12:36

 I loaded 3.4.5 onto a Win7 [64-bit] laptop yesterday at a meeting for a 
 lady.  She wanted to use LO to type up the notes of the meeting right there.

 But after she saved the document, she clicked on the spell check icon and the 
 windows came up empty with a not responding text in the pop up window 
 name.

 Anyone have that problem with a newer HP laptop?

 Any idea how to fix this?

 I did not have the time to try to work with her to figure out what the issue 
 was, but I hope to get with her soon to fix the problem and add more free 
 software to her brand new laptop.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

2012-02-16 Thread V Stuart Foote
Tom,

It is buried down in the Dev list, but the LibO BASE JDBC performance issues 
with the Java JRE are fixed by changes to the JDBC driver to reduce JNI 
Attach/DetachThread cycles, the 35023 bug 
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35023 ) is closed.

We should no longer be pusing the JRE 1.6u21--current JRE 1.6u31 or 1.7u3 are 
fully acceptable.

Look elseware for the issue with spell check.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: Tom Davies [mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:16 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check for 3.4.5 on Win7 not working

Hi :)
Hmm, weird.  Perhaps it's too high a version of java?  Is it using a more 
recent version than 6u21?
Regards from
Tom :)




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