Re: SURBL and DNS wildcards

2004-11-18 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 11:32:41 AM, Chris Santerre wrote:
 That is correct, only the reg domains go in.

Yes, the goal is to list the registrar domains and also to check
those in SURBL applications.  The wildcarded parts of subdomains
are usually ignored.  We did that deliberately to ignore the
entropy or unique identifiers they're trying to add in random or
keyed FQDNs, and to get to the invariant part of their URI
domains.

  http://www.surbl.org/implementation.html

P.S. to Chris: Fry's does not appear to have JO:E as of 11/17.  :-(

Jeff C.
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sa-learn --import with postgresql

2004-11-18 Thread Rupa Schomaker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Ran into a problem importing into postgres.  Running with -D didn't help
other than pinpointing to a problem while importing msgids.  postgres
logs showed:

2004-11-17 16:20:41 [14205] ERROR:  value too long for type character
varying(200)

The bayes_seen table has msgid as a varchar(200).

Changing it to 'test' fixed it for me.  Either spamassassin should
truncate or the underlying datatype should be larger or the error should
be handled better.  (import failed and deleted everything)

I didn't check behavior for learning a single message with a long msgid.

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Re: sa-learn --import with postgresql

2004-11-18 Thread Rupa Schomaker
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Rupa Schomaker wrote:
[snip]

 2004-11-17 16:20:41 [14205] ERROR:  value too long for type character
 varying(200)
 
 The bayes_seen table has msgid as a varchar(200).
 
 Changing it to 'test' fixed it for me.  Either spamassassin should

err, changing to type 'text' fixed it for me.

[snip]

After the import, there were 5 rows with msgid  200:

4 like:
%RNDDIGIT36%RNDLCCHAR13%RNDDIGIT13%RNDLCCHAR13...

1 like:
jughvuuvygvi5zRhsptNPX[lots of [EMAIL PROTECTED] of spaces]hotmail.com

Note that mysql truncates long values silently so is not affected by
this.  Other databases most probably behave like postgres.

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Re: Insecure dependency in eval while running setuid [DOMAIN-OK]

2004-11-18 Thread Vicki Brown
At 08:53 -0500 11/15/2004, Matt Kettler wrote:
1) are you SURE you want allow_user_rules set?

positive.

Unless you trust all your  users this can be a bit risky.

I trust all my users.
Or, to put it more specifically, I trust the three or four who might bother
to edit their files and the rest are all me anyway as far as that goes.

Unless you're going to put body, rawbody,  header or meta statements in
user_prefs,

body and header, yep.
That's precisely why I have allow_user_rules

2) I'd check for malformed body rules. Run spamassassin --lint to see if it
can help you. Line 1669 of PerMsgStatus is where SA is executing the
expressions for body rules.

Did that. I got a bunch of score for a rule that doesn't exist errors.
Nothing that looked serious.

I'd check for add-on rules that have unescaped
punctuation (ie  instead of \) in /etc/mail/spamassassin/*.cf and in
user_prefs. Most likely it's a typo.

yeah, that's what I figured, although I haven't found it.
I did toss a couple of rules.


However, it's going to be a body rule that's the troublemaker.

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RE: spamd logging with wrong timestamp?

2004-11-18 Thread Dimitry Peisakhov
Mike, adding that switch to syslog didnt seem to work. I found some other
posts through google which claim that stopping syslogd and spamd and
starting them again fixes this up, but it hasnt worked for me.

If anyone else has any ideas, they would be greately appreciated.

Thanks,
Regards, Dimitry

-Original Message-
From: Mike Kercher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:04 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: spamd logging with wrong timestamp?


Dimitry Peisakhov wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
I've recently discovered that my spamd is writing to the logs with
 the incorrect timestamp. It looks like its using GMT to timestamp
 instead of the actual time on the box (11hr difference). I fixed this
 previously by restarting the service, but its not doing the trick
 now.. Anyone have ideas about this? There doesnt seem to be any
 switches for spamd to control timestamps or timezone config. 
 
 thanks,
 Regards,
 
 Dimitry Peisakhov
 Systems Administrator
 
 HENRY WALKER ELTIN
 02 8875 4721
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago with a machine that had an
older OS on it.  sendmail was logging the correct timestamp but MailScanner
was logging about 2 hours behind.  The way I resolved it was to add the '-r'
switch to my syslog initscript.

Mike


Re: Configuring bayes lock file locations?

2004-11-18 Thread alan premselaar
brian wrote:
After upgrading to 3.0.1 I've been having problems with bayes.  This may 
be a question for the mimedefang guys, but I'll start here.

I have upgraded the databases, and its now reading correctly, as I get 
bayes scoring now.  However autoupdates are failing because of lock 
files...

In my config I have:
bayes_path  /var/spool/MIMEDefang
Maillog is reporting:
Nov 17 12:54:02 lithium mimedefang-multiplexor[35151]: Slave 0 stderr: 
bayes: lock: 35570 cannot create tmp lockfile 
/var/spool/MIMEDefang.lock.host.domain.com.35570 for 
/var/spool/MIMEDefang.lock: Permission denied

This seems to me a spamassassin error message.  It appears that I need 
to be able to configure where the lock file is written.  /var/spool is 
not an option since its not a very good idea to loosen permissions here 
for obvious security reasons (not to mention mimedefang will tell you to 
sod off until you fix it).

Brian,
  This has been discussed on the MIMEDefang list in the past.  It 
appears to be a timing issue between MIMEDefang and the SA locking 
mechanisms.  adding 'bayes_learn_to_journal 1' to your sa-mimedefang.cf 
file should resolve your problems. (at least it resolved the problem for me)

hope this helps.
alan


Re: Question

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Hepworth
Jason
The default SpamAssassin rules are a good start, but what extra rules 
are you running?

There are some very good ones on www.ruleemporium.com.
Also are you using any of the URI RBL's from www.surbl.org? These can 
help alot too.

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Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
Jason Novak wrote:
I've upgraded to SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and, for the most part everything 
seems to work ok...although there are consistently some spam messages 
that still seem to get through.  All false negatives a run sa-learn to 
learn.

My local.cf is configured as follows:
bayes_path /var/lib/nobody/.spamassassin/bayes
bayes_min_spam_num 20
bayes_auto_learn 1
auto_whitelist_path /var/lib/nobody/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist
my mail log is as follows for a spam message:
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Re: Web Based sa-learn?

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Hepworth
Hi
if you are using MailScanner to front end SA, Mailwatch can help - no 
cut and paste, but you can run sa-learn on the messages to 'correct' 
bayes view of spam.

Also if you have a imap accessible email server (not Exchange 2000 of 
later as it mangles the headers) there are quite a few perl scripts 
hanging about so people can drag/drop to and spam/ham folder.

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RD wrote:
Hello List,
Is there any available sa-learn type script out there where I can simpy 
cutpaste suspected spam/ham via http?

Thanks in advance.
rd.
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How can I bring CPU down where Spamd takes %60 of all CPU?

2004-11-18 Thread LOGS \(Tunc Eresen\)
 Is there a way of reducing or caping CPU usage spamd by issuing commands or
making changes in config?

Regards 
Tunc




Re: How to stop this stock-spam?

2004-11-18 Thread Martin
Matt Kettler wrote:
First, a word of warning.. 2.63 is subject to DoS if a carefully made 
malformed message comes in. Not a huge security risk, but I'd at least 
consider upgrading to 2.64 or higher in the near future. (2.64 should be 
an easy upgrade from 2.63.. 3.0.x might be a bit more involved, but 
might be useful in the longer term.)
Hi Matt,
Thank you, i'm aware of the issue with 2.63, and i'm planning and 
upgrade to 2.64. I've actually been to lazy. Will take care of this next 
week. Thanks for reminding me :)

As for the spam, you might try some of these. Keep the scores low as 
these could cause problems for financial newsletters. However, in your 
case it looks like these are getting close to 5.0 on their own, so a 
heavy score isn't needed.

body OTCBB  /\bOTCBB\b/
score OTCBB 0.4
describe OTCBB mentions penny stocks
body OTCBB2 /\bOver the Counter bulletin board\b/i
score OTCBB2 0.4
describe OTCBB2 mentions penny stocks
body PINK_SHEET /\bPink Sheet (?:Stocks?|trading)\b/i
score PINK_SHEET0.4
describe PINK_SHEET mentions penny stocks.
body INVEST_ADVICE /\bInvestment Advice\b/i
score INVEST_ADVICE 0.2
describe INVEST_ADVICE offers investment advice.
Note: i just wrote these, and have not tested or linted them. PINK_SHEET 
might have some logic errors, but I think it's ok.
Thanks for these rules. They linted OK, but i just got a similar spam 
that got 0.0 points (see attached file). When i ran it manually a few 
hours later i got the following score:

Content analysis details:   (4.6 points, 5.0 required)
 pts rule name  description
 -- 
--
 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_41BODY: 4alpha-pock-1alpha
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 1.8 MIME_QP_DEFICIENT  RAW: Deficient quoted-printable encoding in 
body
 2.2 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net
[Blocked - see 
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?61.33.16.183]


It doesn't seem like any of the rules of yours got triggered? The spam 
in question is attached.

Thank you
/ Martin
Received: from aspam._mydomain.com_ (192.168.2.80 [192.168.2.80]) by 
exchangeserver.id.local with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 
Version 5.5.2653.13)
id VAQVTP84; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:48:06 +0100
Received: by aspam._mydomain.com_ (Postfix, from userid 500)
id 706CA13889; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:48:07 +0100 (CET)
Received: from TEST-6F4NTK1WBQ (unknown [61.33.16.183])
by aspam._mydomain.com_ (Postfix) with SMTP
id 4616213886; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:48:01 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Personal Entertainment Investments
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Gerald Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gerald Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 07:42:53 -0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--9_FAPLsq5F1.uJAvpBBpEU0
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on 
aspam._mydomain.com_
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no 
version=2.63

9_FAPLsq5F1.uJAvpBBpEU0
Content-Type: text/plain;
 format=flowed;
 charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

9_FAPLsq5F1.uJAvpBBpEU0
Content-Type: text/html;
 format=flowed;
 charset=iso-8859-15
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

9_FAPLsq5F1.uJAvpBBpEU0--

htmlPlease review this entire email about:br
Motion DNAbrbr

Pink Sheets Stock Symbol MTDNbr
a 
href=http://www.otcbb.com/asp/quote_module.asp?symbol=MTDN;http://www.otcbb.com/asp/quote_module.asp?symbol=MTDN/a
 
brbr
Big year expected in 2005 for Motion DNAbr
  br
Trading Symbol MTDNbr
Current Price (est.) $0.025br
Valued Price (est.) $1.00brbr

First time investors please read this:br
a 
href=http://www.pinksheets.com/otcguide/investors_howtobuy.jsp;http://www.pinksheets.com/otcguide/investors_howtobuy.jsp/a
brbr
Company officials expect to make the move to become a reporting company, due to 
their high expectations Motion DNA may surpass revenue projections for 2005. 
Currently with almost $500,000 in assets, zero debt, and increasing interest in 
its franchise program, company officials term the financial viability of Motion 
DNA as solid. All of the road blocks appear to be removed and Motion DNA 
expects to increase its market presence in the sports medicine industry and 
improve company revenues substantially, said Zig Ziegler, President of Motion 
DNA. We can now focus on increasing customer awareness and sales of our 
products and services.
brbr
In a move expected to provide future franchisees with access to a solid 
customer base, Motion DNA officials have agreed to terms with one of the 
nation's leading health club chains with over 430 locations in the US and 
Europe. Motion DNA is expected to launch its first analysis center in one of 
the club?s Arizona locations. Franchisees will be 

Help me help someone...

2004-11-18 Thread Jonathan Nichols
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1777629
This poor guy is having some strange issues with SpamAssassin and 
RulesDuJour that I can't manage to recreate.

Anyone care to take a look and offer a suggestion or two? :)


'meds' spam

2004-11-18 Thread Peter Campion-Bye

The only spam that's getting through on my system these days seems to have
'meds' and 'rx' in common. I would have thought that antidrug was the
ruleset to pick up stuff such as this:

--Spam Start---
Subject: meds saving zone

your assorted meds at better than Canadian pricing

A wide variety of medications for your paticular
eyes...Depression-Anxiety,
Muscle Relaxants, Pain Relief, Sexual Health, Sleeping Aids, drugs for
weight reduction, allergy...

overnight delivery for meds

gorgeous service for quality rx meds at low price

Internet pharmacy really makes things easier for me. Now I don't even step
out of the room to get rx refilled and meds delivered to my door.  --Delta
--Spam End-

but this message scores nothing for content, apart from BAYES_80 which is
not enough to push it over the threshold...

  X-Spam-Score: 3.19 BAYES_80,RCVD_IN_SBL,SPF_HELO_PASS,URIBL_SBL

Is there a ruleset I should be using to pick this stuff up?
I've put in a custom rule to pick up meds in the subject:

header  PCB_MEDSSubject =~ /(?:\bmeds|meds\b)/i
describePCB_MEDSSubject contains meds
score   PCB_MEDS5

Before I start adding body rules to pick up words like those in the
message above, is there already something around that does the job?
Thanks


X-NAS-* headers

2004-11-18 Thread Keith Hackworth
One of my customers received a blank message from Korea which spoofed an
invalid email address on his domain.  I was looking at the message and it
contained 3 distinct X-NAS message headers that I don't recognize:

X-NAS-Classification: 0
X-NAS-MessageID: 43604
X-NAS-Validation: {3342587F-BB8C-4C06-B6B4-9B637E4CDC44}

Does anyone have any idea what would add an X-NAS-* header?  I've googled
it and didn't really find anything too relevant, other than people
complaining about spam messages.  I would like to prevent these, and it'd
be great if I could just block any message containing X-NAS in the
headers, but I wanted to make sure some client or isp doesn't add them
automatically.

Thanks,
Keith



RE: X-NAS-* headers

2004-11-18 Thread Bruno Guerreiro
Hi,
I may be mistaken but i think that that's a Norton AntiSpam header.

Best regards.
Bruno Guerreiro

-Original Message-
From: Keith Hackworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:31 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: X-NAS-* headers


One of my customers received a blank message from Korea which spoofed an
invalid email address on his domain.  I was looking at the message and it
contained 3 distinct X-NAS message headers that I don't recognize:

X-NAS-Classification: 0
X-NAS-MessageID: 43604
X-NAS-Validation: {3342587F-BB8C-4C06-B6B4-9B637E4CDC44}

Does anyone have any idea what would add an X-NAS-* header?  I've googled
it and didn't really find anything too relevant, other than people
complaining about spam messages.  I would like to prevent these, and it'd
be great if I could just block any message containing X-NAS in the
headers, but I wanted to make sure some client or isp doesn't add them
automatically.

Thanks,
Keith


Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Jfabricio - Greenwich International
Dear all,

I need to use some kind of antispam and decided to use spamassassin.
We just installed and started it but appear not work as well.
I use RedHat 7.3 + kernel 2.4.20-28.7 + sendmail 8.11.6 + procmail 3.22 +
mailscanner 3.27 + Fprot 3.13b (antivirus) + Spamassassin 2.64-1.
Some one can help me?

Thanks and Best regards

Jfabricio - IT Coordinator

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Re: Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Hepworth
Hi
so whats the problem?
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Jfabricio - Greenwich International wrote:
Dear all,
I need to use some kind of antispam and decided to use spamassassin.
We just installed and started it but appear not work as well.
I use RedHat 7.3 + kernel 2.4.20-28.7 + sendmail 8.11.6 + procmail 3.22 +
mailscanner 3.27 + Fprot 3.13b (antivirus) + Spamassassin 2.64-1.
Some one can help me?
Thanks and Best regards
Jfabricio - IT Coordinator
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Re: 'meds' spam

2004-11-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:35 AM 11/18/2004 +, Peter Campion-Bye wrote:
I've put in a custom rule to pick up meds in the subject:
header  PCB_MEDSSubject =~ /(?:\bmeds|meds\b)/i
describePCB_MEDSSubject contains meds
score   PCB_MEDS5
erm.. I'd STRONGLY suggest \b's on both, not one end.
The above will match any word beginning with, or ending in meds.
I'd also suggest matching medz as well as meds:
 /\bmed[sz]\b/i
Note that \b does not require a space, so it will match meds at the start 
or end of a line just fine. \b is just a word boundary requirement. 
Punctuation also counts as a word boundary... so it will match :meds just 
fine too. 



RES: Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Jfabricio - Greenwich International
Dear Martin,

Thanks for yours quickly reply.
I started spamd yesterday morning, but it does not stop any spam 
message.
For example, I usually receive about 130 spams every morning. I checked
this morning and the same number of spam entered on my inbox.

TKS

Jfabricio

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Enviada em: quinta-feira, 18 de novembro de 2004 10:33
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Assunto: Re: Spamassassin Starter

Hi

so whats the problem?

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Jfabricio - Greenwich International wrote:

 Dear all,

 I need to use some kind of antispam and decided to use spamassassin.
 We just installed and started it but appear not work as well.
 I use RedHat 7.3 + kernel 2.4.20-28.7 + sendmail 8.11.6 + procmail 3.22 +
 mailscanner 3.27 + Fprot 3.13b (antivirus) + Spamassassin 2.64-1.
 Some one can help me?

 Thanks and Best regards

 Jfabricio - IT Coordinator

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Re: Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On torsdag 18 november 2004, 15:58, Jfabricio - Greenwich International 
wrote:
 I started spamd yesterday morning, but it does not stop any
 spam message. For example, I usually receive about 130 spams every
 morning. I checked this morning and the same number of spam entered
 on my inbox.

Oh, you need to include far more information than that. Just think about 
how you would respond to a help request, how would you start?

For example, how did you integrate SpamAssassin with Sendmail? What does 
your procmail recipes look like? Do you see any messages in mail server 
logs, syslog or other logs?

Best,

Kjetil
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Re: RES: Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Hepworth
J
MailScanner does not use spamd/spamc in order to scan emails, but calls 
Spamassassin directly via Perl.

If email is flowing and you've not stopped sendmail before the 
MailScanner install then that's the problem.

Also MailScanner 3.x is kinda old (a couple of years at leaast), may I 
suggest you get the latest RPM from www.mailscanner.info and try again.

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Jfabricio - Greenwich International wrote:
Dear Martin,
Thanks for yours quickly reply.
I started spamd yesterday morning, but it does not stop any spam 
message.
For example, I usually receive about 130 spams every morning. I checked
this morning and the same number of spam entered on my inbox.
TKS

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Re: Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Hepworth
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
On torsdag 18 november 2004, 15:58, Jfabricio - Greenwich International 
wrote:

 I started spamd yesterday morning, but it does not stop any
spam message. For example, I usually receive about 130 spams every
morning. I checked this morning and the same number of spam entered
on my inbox.

Oh, you need to include far more information than that. Just think about 
how you would respond to a help request, how would you start?

For example, how did you integrate SpamAssassin with Sendmail? What does 
your procmail recipes look like? Do you see any messages in mail server 
logs, syslog or other logs?

Best,
Kjetil
Hi
he's using (or trying to use!) mailscanner to call SA and scan the 
emailand a very old version of MailScanner too.. I've asked him(?) 
to get the latest version...

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Re: RES: Spamassassin Starter

2004-11-18 Thread Evan Platt
At 06:58 AM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
Dear Martin,
Thanks for yours quickly reply.
I started spamd yesterday morning, but it does not stop any spam 
message.
For example, I usually receive about 130 spams every morning. I 
checked
this morning and the same number of spam entered on my inbox.

SpamAssassin is merely going to mark the messages as spam - nothing more. 
Anything such as move to a seperate folder is done with other programs. 
They will still appear in your Inbox. Might help to post your procmail 
configuration  appropriate config from your SpamAssassin settings to help 
further troubleshoot.

Evan 



Re: spamd logging with wrong timestamp?

2004-11-18 Thread Michael Barnes

I've had servers log with incorrect time before and it was due to the
fact that I was in a different timezone than my server and I set my TZ
environment variable to reflect my timezone and not the timezone that
the server was located.  So, when I restarted the server, it inheireted
my TZ variable and started logging with that time and not the system
time.

If you might think that this is an issue, you could put the correct TZ
environment info in your spamd startup/shutdown script and that way it
will always be correct (or at least consistant).

Mike

On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 02:46:22PM +1100, Dimitry Peisakhov wrote:
 Mike, adding that switch to syslog didnt seem to work. I found some
 other posts through google which claim that stopping syslogd and spamd
 and starting them again fixes this up, but it hasnt worked for me.

 If anyone else has any ideas, they would be greately appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Regards, Dimitry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Kercher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 18 November 2004 12:04 AM
 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
 Subject: RE: spamd logging with wrong timestamp?
 
 
 Dimitry Peisakhov wrote:
  Hi guys,
  
 I've recently discovered that my spamd is writing to the logs with
  the incorrect timestamp. It looks like its using GMT to timestamp
  instead of the actual time on the box (11hr difference). I fixed this
  previously by restarting the service, but its not doing the trick
  now.. Anyone have ideas about this? There doesnt seem to be any
  switches for spamd to control timestamps or timezone config. 
  
  thanks,
  Regards,
  
  Dimitry Peisakhov
  Systems Administrator
  
  HENRY WALKER ELTIN
  02 8875 4721
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago with a machine that had an
 older OS on it.  sendmail was logging the correct timestamp but MailScanner
 was logging about 2 hours behind.  The way I resolved it was to add the '-r'
 switch to my syslog initscript.
 
 Mike

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Re: [OT] Amavisd memory usage

2004-11-18 Thread Vivek Khera
On Nov 17, 2004, at 11:07 AM, Michael W Cocke wrote:
Is this normal?  I would have expected them to be using the same
amount of memory, unless there's a leak somewhere.
Try not to confuse memory usage with memory leak.  It is a very common 
trap.

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Re: How can I bring CPU down where Spamd takes %60 of all CPU?

2004-11-18 Thread Jeremy Rumpf
On Thursday 18 November 2004 04:20 am, LOGS (Tunc Eresen) wrote:
  Is there a way of reducing or caping CPU usage spamd by issuing commands
 or making changes in config?

 Regards
 Tunc

If you must, nice it down to a lower priority. In your startup script add a 
nice adjustment to the spamd launch:

nice -n15 spamd .

or man nice form more details.

HTH,
Jeremy 



sender_header search algorithm

2004-11-18 Thread Eric A. Hall

I noticed that Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf describes the search algorithm for
the message sender as follows:

| SpamAssassin will attempt to discover the address used in the
| 'MAIL FROM:' phase of the SMTP transaction that delivered this
| message, if this data has been made available by the SMTP server.
| This is used in the EnvelopeFrom pseudo-header, and for various
| rules such as SPF checking.
|
| By default, various MTAs will use different headers, such as the
| following:
|
|X-Envelope-From
|Envelope-Sender
|X-Sender
|Return-Path
|
| SpamAssassin will attempt to use these, if some heuristics (such
| as the header placement in the message, or the absence of
| fetchmail signatures) appear to indicate that they are safe to
| use. However, it may choose the wrong headers in some mailserver
| configurations. (More discussion of this can be found in bug 2142
| in the SpamAssassin BugZilla.)
|
| To avoid this heuristic failure, the envelope_sender_header
| setting may be helpful. [...]
|
| If the header in question contains  or  characters at the start
| and end of the email address in the right-hand side, as in the
| SMTP transaction, these will be stripped.

The existing algorithm doesn't seem to work very well (or at least it
doesn't seem to work very well here; 2.64 seemed to be more reliable about
this, but 3.0.1 only seems to find From). I haven't come across any
significant discussion so I'm not sure what's going on here.

I suggest the following order:

  [user-override first]
  Return-Path
  Sender
  Resent-Sender
  List-ID
  List-Post/-*
  non-standard headers (like Errors-To)
  From
  Resent-From

The subset of List-* headers use different field structures (some of them
use URIs) and therefore require additional pattern-matching than the
simple matching.

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Re: any rules for RelayCountry?

2004-11-18 Thread Eric A. Hall

On 11/17/2004 12:53 PM, Martin wrote:

 |I'm looking to use the RelayCountry plugin data but there |doesn't
 seem to be any rules. Anybody know of any?

 Here's some rules I use, utilising the nerds.dk lists, not sure if its
 what you are looking for.

That works perfectly, and doesn't even need/use the RelayPlugin data,
which is good thing since it's causing some kind of interaction problem
with the spampd wrapper with postfix.

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spamd process using to much cpu

2004-11-18 Thread Matias Lopez Bergero
Hello,
I'm running spamassassin 3.0.1 on linux 2.4, using milter-spamc to talk 
with sendmail milter.

I'm seeing a heavy cpu usage in some process of spamd for a long time 
and sometimes they just hang there until I kill them(usage goes from 80% 
to 97%).
Also my system is reporting a high iowait load and a high disk usage 
that stops if a shutdown spammassassin processes.

This is normal?
Anyone with the same problem??
I'm running spamassassin with this flags: -d -c -m5 -H -D
Any comments/ideas will be most welcome.
BR,
Matías.


Kill spamd spawns new processes

2004-11-18 Thread Pradeep
Hi,
Today I updated spamassassin from 2.63 to 3.01 on a linux machine. My 
init script does not work anymore because when I kill spamd it creates 
five new processes. So, I cannot start the daemon again.Any help is 
appreciated. Here is the info.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# spamd -d -x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spamd
root 13272 1 75 14:50 ?00:00:03 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# kill -9 13272
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spamd
root 13273 1  0 14:50 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x
root 13274 1  0 14:50 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x
root 13275 1  0 14:50 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x
root 13276 1  0 14:50 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x
root 13277 1  0 14:50 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x

Thanks.
Pradeep.


Re: spamd process using to much cpu

2004-11-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:13 PM 11/18/2004, Matias Lopez Bergero wrote:
I'm seeing a heavy cpu usage in some process of spamd for a long time and 
sometimes they just hang there until I kill them(usage goes from 80% to 97%).
Also my system is reporting a high iowait load and a high disk usage that 
stops if a shutdown spammassassin processes.

This is normal?
Anyone with the same problem??
Define for a long time... Minutes? Hours?
From the sounds of it, it looks like SA is doing an opportunistic expiry 
on your bayes DB.. But that should only take a few minutes unless things 
are really haywire or your box is really slow.

Try running a sa-learn -D --force-expire on the command line and see if 
that runs smoothly.

Also, look around for bayes_toks.expirepid # files laying around next to 
your bayes DB.. that's a very clear sign SA is being killed while running 
expiry.



Spamd cpu issues.

2004-11-18 Thread Dave Goodrich
I've been watching these messages concerning high memory and cpu usage 
in spamd. In fact it caused me to wait until 3.01. But I have upgraded, 
running now for several days. Spamd is quite well behaved, not catching 
as much as 2.64 was, but I am still tuning.

I don't know if it matters but I'll throw this out anyway, maybe it will 
help someone. I don't run bayes, I don't run autowhitelist, I don't run 
pyzor/dcc/razor. I have never seen these issues of high memory/cpu 
useage. I amd handling 700/1300 messages per hour ( we are an ISP, 
traffic levels change daily 8^), 60% of which is spam this afternoon.

This is done with three machines using spamc to connect to a master 
server running spamd with user prefs stored in MySQL. spamd is running 
with the following startup under daemontools,

#!/sbin/sh
PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -a 12800 \
/usr/local/bin/spamd -i 10.0.240.253 -p 1783 -A 10.0.240.0/24 \
-m 10 --max-conn-per-child=200 -u vpopmail -x -q -s stderr 21
DAve

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Re: Kill spamd spawns new processes

2004-11-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:04 PM 11/18/2004, Pradeep wrote:
Today I updated spamassassin from 2.63 to 3.01 on a linux machine. My init 
script does not work anymore because when I kill spamd it creates five new 
processes. So, I cannot start the daemon again.Any help is appreciated. 
Here is the info.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# spamd -d -x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spamd
root 13272 1 75 14:50 ?00:00:03 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
/usr/bin/spamd -d -x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# kill -9 13272
have you tried being nice and sending a normal kill (SIGTERM) instead of a 
-9 (SIGKILL)?

kill -9 does not allow spamd any opportunity to clean up after itself. The 
OS just force-unloads the process by dropping it from the process list and 
marking all memory free and files closed. Any pending file io is left 
incomplete, and all children are left to their own devices. SA has no 
chance to notify it's children by using it's sigterm handler.  You could 
even corrupt your bayes DB by using kill -9 on spamd.

You should never kill -9 any process without doing a regular kill first, 
except as a truly drastic measure for a severely dangerous out-of-control 
process which is going to take your whole system down if you don't stop it.

Kill -9 is NOT a good thing to use for general shutdown of processes, it's 
really only one step better than having to pull the power plug on the box.




Re: Question

2004-11-18 Thread Jason Novak




Hi Martin,

I think I may have found the issue...It looks like these domains were
added in the auto-whitelist file which were probably decreasing the
score below the standard threshold of 5. The extra rulesets you see
are actually coming from ruleemporium.com.(SARE). That's why I was so
confused that these messages seem to be getting through. Thank you
again for the suggestion.

Best Regards,

Jason

Martin Hepworth wrote:
Jason
  
  
The default SpamAssassin rules are a good start, but what extra rules
are you running?
  
  
There are some very good ones on www.ruleemporium.com.
  
  
Also are you using any of the URI RBL's from www.surbl.org? These can
help alot too.
  
  
--
  
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Snr Systems Administrator
  
Solid State Logic
  
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
  
  
  
Jason Novak wrote:
  
  I've upgraded to SpamAssassin 3.0.1 and, for
the most part everything seems to work ok...although there are
consistently some spam messages that still seem to get through. All
false negatives a run sa-learn to learn.


My local.cf is configured as follows:


bayes_path /var/lib/nobody/.spamassassin/bayes

bayes_min_spam_num 20

bayes_auto_learn 1

auto_whitelist_path /var/lib/nobody/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist


my mail log is as follows for a spam message:

  
  
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Re: despamassassining

2004-11-18 Thread Hanspeter Roth
  On Nov 11 at 20:31, Matt Kettler spoke:

 Besides adjusting your administrator with a clue-by-four, you can run it 
 through spamassassin --remove-markup

Well I can't use perl on this site.
I'm trying to pipe it throgh `reformime -s 1.2 -e | formail -b`.
This only affects the date in the envelope.

-Hanspeter


Re: Kill spamd spawns new processes

2004-11-18 Thread Justin Mason
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Matt Kettler writes:
 At 05:04 PM 11/18/2004, Pradeep wrote:
 Today I updated spamassassin from 2.63 to 3.01 on a linux machine. My init 
 script does not work anymore because when I kill spamd it creates five new 
 processes. So, I cannot start the daemon again.Any help is appreciated. 
 Here is the info.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spam
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# spamd -d -x
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -ef|grep spamd
 root 13272 1 75 14:50 ?00:00:03 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 -T -w 
 /usr/bin/spamd -d -x
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# kill -9 13272
 
 have you tried being nice and sending a normal kill (SIGTERM) instead of a 
 -9 (SIGKILL)?
 
 kill -9 does not allow spamd any opportunity to clean up after itself. The 
 OS just force-unloads the process by dropping it from the process list and 
 marking all memory free and files closed. Any pending file io is left 
 incomplete, and all children are left to their own devices. SA has no 
 chance to notify it's children by using it's sigterm handler.  You could 
 even corrupt your bayes DB by using kill -9 on spamd.
 
 You should never kill -9 any process without doing a regular kill first, 
 except as a truly drastic measure for a severely dangerous out-of-control 
 process which is going to take your whole system down if you don't stop it.
 
 Kill -9 is NOT a good thing to use for general shutdown of processes, it's 
 really only one step better than having to pull the power plug on the box.

yep -- in fact, it's pretty much equivalent to pulling the power
plug on that process.  kill -15 is a lot safer.

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Re: Kill spamd spawns new processes

2004-11-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:05 PM 11/18/2004, Justin Mason wrote:
 Kill -9 is NOT a good thing to use for general shutdown of processes, it's
 really only one step better than having to pull the power plug on the box.
yep -- in fact, it's pretty much equivalent to pulling the power
plug on that process.  kill -15 is a lot safer.
Agreed.. Which is why it's only one step better than pulling the plug on 
the whole box :)

I also found this useful website which goes quite in-depth on the matter:
http://www.speculation.org/garrick/kill-9.html 



Re: more spamassassin + bayes + postgres stuff

2004-11-18 Thread Michael Parker
On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 at 06:53:19AM -0800, Rupa Schomaker wrote:
 
 Some questions:
 
 Is bytea really necessary?  If I follow the path of the patch, the bytea
 change was done prior to adding the index.  Since the tokens are binary
 data it is probably more correct through, especially if one has a
 encoding other than SQL_ASCII set for the DB...

Yes, as far as I can tell from the documentation.  The fact that we're
storing the binary value makes it necessary.  If I'm misinformed, then
feel free to point out where in the documentation.

 What do you use to benchmark changes?  I'm willing to experiment but
 would like to have some reproducable results for ya...

It's not really ready for real world consumption and time has been
short for getting it ready.  You can read a little about it here:
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesBenchmark

Hopefully, I'll get some free time soon and get it into the SA tree.

Michael


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RE: Spamd cpu issues.

2004-11-18 Thread Gary W. Smith
We ran the 3-beta for a while and recently built out a machine to start
building up our bayes and for a 1:1 comparison of spam scores.  We are
running SURBL, multiple SARE rules and AWL/Bayes with MySQL.  The spamd
and MySQL processes are running on a shared box for right now.  Box
specs are 2.8ghz, 1gb ram (Dell 2400n).

The front end is 2 boxes (we actual have 4 nodes) that call spamc twice
(once for local 2.6.x version and then for the 3.01 version on the
remote box).  The memory on here has been pretty consistent on the
pre-prod box.  The two machines that are sending email to the server are
doing about 30k messages each per day.  


Anyways, I think that this is a fairly hard hit server for what we do
and haven't seen any significant memory issues yet.  We are building out
a production environment (to include MySQL mirroring) on a set of beefy
machines that all of the front-end relays will use as there backend
spamd processes.  So far the results have been extremely promising for
us.

Please note that the high memory listed is also the result of copying
4gb of files to the box.  Anyhow, here are the results from the top:

15:26:46  up 3 days, 19:50,  2 users,  load average: 0.38, 0.14, 0.18
81 processes: 77 sleeping, 4 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  cpuusernice  systemirq  softirq  iowaitidle
   total   30.0%0.0%0.0%   0.0% 0.0%4.0%   66.0%
Mem:  1025988k av,  837276k used,  188712k free,   0k shrd,   35888k

553064k actv,  196020k in_d,   12052k in_c
Swap: 1052248k av,  302896k used,  749352k free  475508k
cached

  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME CPU
COMMAND
 7624 nobody16   0 50792  38M  1888 S18.0  3.8   0:31   0 spamd
 7584 nobody16   0 48840  37M  1900 R10.0  3.6   0:26   0 spamd
 7628 nobody15   0 48564  37M  1900 S 1.0  3.7   0:27   0 spamd
1 root  15   0   116   7656 S 0.0  0.0   0:03   0 init
2 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:03   0
keventd
3 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00   0 kapmd
4 root  34  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00   0
ksoftirqd/
7 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00   0
bdflush
5 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:10   0 kswapd
6 root  15   0 00 0 RW0.0  0.0   0:02   0 kscand
8 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00   0
kupdated
9 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00   0
mdrecovery
   13 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   1:42   0
kjournald
   68 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00   0 khubd
  927 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00   0
kjournald
 3052 root  15   0   244  224   160 S 0.0  0.0   0:41   0
syslogd
 3056 root  22   0604 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 klogd
 3082 rpc   15   0764 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
portmap
 3101 rpcuser   25   0804 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
rpc.statd
 3112 root  15   0   164  148   108 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 mdadm
 3127 root  RT   0   252  152   116 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 auditd
 3179 root  24   0524 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 apmd
 3217 root  15   0   256  208   144 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
rpc.dracd
 3268 root  15   0   312   7664 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 sshd
 3362 root  25   0   1404 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
mysqld_saf
 3391 mysql 15   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3436 mysql 24   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3437 mysql 24   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3438 mysql 24   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3439 mysql 24   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3443 mysql 15   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3444 mysql 15   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3445 mysql 24   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:00   0 mysqld
 3446 mysql 15   0 18428 7972  1340 S 0.0  0.7   0:07   0 mysqld
 3456 root  15   0564 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 gpm
 3471 root  15   0  3288   8460 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 httpd
 3480 nobody15   0   472  208   124 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
proftpd
 3489 root  15   0   172  14892 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 crond
 3512 xfs   15   0  1904   6032 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 xfs
 3521 daemon15   0   196  168   124 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0 atd
 3531 root  18   0524 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
mingetty
 3532 root  18   0524 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
mingetty
 3533 root  18   0524 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
mingetty
 3534 root  18   0524 0 S 0.0  0.0   0:00   0
mingetty
 3535 root  19   0524 0 S 0.0  0.0   

script error?

2004-11-18 Thread Stefan Suurmeijer
Hi list,
this is probably some easy configuration issue, but it's now almost 1am 
and I just spent the last 4 hours upgrading my system so by now I 
wouldn't see a solution if it hit me in the face.

I have everything working, except for spamassassin. I had it working 
earlier, but I decided to get the newest version of SA from CPAN and now 
when I try to start spamd I get the following error:

ERROR!  spamassassin script is v3.00, but using modules v3.01!
which is great in not telling me anything useful about what is wrong. 
Can anybody point me in the right direction? Any help would be GREATLY 
appreciated

TIA
Stefan


Re: Kill spamd spawns new processes

2004-11-18 Thread Rick Macdougall

Matt Kettler wrote:
At 06:05 PM 11/18/2004, Justin Mason wrote:
 Kill -9 is NOT a good thing to use for general shutdown of 
processes, it's
 really only one step better than having to pull the power plug on 
the box.

yep -- in fact, it's pretty much equivalent to pulling the power
plug on that process.  kill -15 is a lot safer.

Agreed.. Which is why it's only one step better than pulling the plug on 
the whole box :)

I also found this useful website which goes quite in-depth on the matter:
Pssh, kill -15 is for wimps :)
Regards,
Rick