Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-10 Thread Joost Schouten (mailing lists)

On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Ville wrote:

 Thanks for the input again, live and learn :)
 
 In case anyone comes looking, the easiest way is to set a class c to body
 and prepend all your styles with .c.

or if you have 

.t-error{color:red;} 

coming from your default.css you can add 

BODY .t-error{color:green;} 

to your own css.

This saves you from having to add classes to every page. 

 
 - Ville

cheers, Joost

 
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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-09 Thread Ville
So the fix is to exclude all css files that third party libs include, then
copy the css from those jars, modify it and include it yourself?

I don't get how the ordering is not important, as the order dictates how the
styles are applied, and what overrides what?

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-09 Thread Ville
To clarify why the ordering IS important, if my css is included before
Tapestry's default, then I can't override T5's default styles. (And the
second picture in my earlier post demonstrates this..)

The proposed fix that I then exclude the T5 defaults altogether is not imho
the most elegant fix.

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-09 Thread Joost Schouten (mailing lists)
I might be missing something here but why do you not solve the problem with css 
specificity [1]? Css should never care about the order in which you load your 
css files IMHO.

Cheers,
Joost

[1]: http://www.htmldog.com/guides/cssadvanced/specificity/


On Nov 9, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Ville wrote:

 To clarify why the ordering IS important, if my css is included before
 Tapestry's default, then I can't override T5's default styles. (And the
 second picture in my earlier post demonstrates this..)
 
 The proposed fix that I then exclude the T5 defaults altogether is not imho
 the most elegant fix.
 
 - Ville
 
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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-09 Thread Ville
Hmm, 

I might then have done an error by mistakenly took for granted that the Tap5
stylesheet comes before mine. Thanks for the specificity link, that clears
it up nicely. 

Well, now I have to go write all my css again that overrides Tap 5 styles ;)

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-09 Thread Ville
Thanks for the input again, live and learn :)

In case anyone comes looking, the easiest way is to set a class c to body
and prepend all your styles with .c.

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-09 Thread Barry Books
I often use Amazon CloudFront (or Google for jQuery) to serve
CSS/Javascript on websites so the Tapestry @Include is only useful in
development for me and currently there does not seem to be a generic
way to turn off all the defaults. It would be OK (perhaps better) if
there was a default include service I could override. The API seems to
indicate that might be the case but in reality adding of defaults
seems a bit ad hoc and you have to look at the source to figure out
how to get rid of each one individually or I guess you could rewrite
the DOM after it's rendered.

I understand why defaults are important to get things going but I
suspect many people override all of the default CSS. I would also
guess I'm not the only one to use a CDN to serve css/javascript. The
current way defaults are added is at best magic but closer to
mysterious.

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread Barry Books
Personally I wish you could just put the stylesheets you want in the
layout.java @Import and have it work. In this particular case I think
the whole AppModule configuration is overkill for the problem. I would
be nice if there was a simple way to override all the stacks instead
tracking down all the defaults and turning them off. Perhaps

@Override(stylesheet=true)
@Import(stylesheet={classpath:/com/trsvax/bootstrap/bootstrap.css,myStyle.css})

This would just put bootstrap.css and myStyle.css in the page in the
order I specify. Any upstream styles would be suppressed.

I think the whole auto include thing is useful in the beginning but at
some point it just gets in the way.

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:56:56 -0200, Barry Books trs...@gmail.com wrote:


Personally I wish you could just put the stylesheets you want in the
layout.java @Import and have it work.


Why using @Import in Layout if you can add the style tags directly in  
the template?


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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread Ville
The problem is the thirdparty libraries:

If I include chenillekit, and that library includes css file for its window
component, it is essential that my css comes after that - otherwise I have
no way to override the styles.

If I put MY CSS to @Import tag the result is this:
tapestry5 default css
mycss
css from tapestry5-jquery library

If I put MY css directly to the head the end result is this:
mycss
tapestry5 default css
css from tapestry5-jquery library

So, in that case tapestrys default css overrides my css :/ This is clearly
not the intention. I can order MY css, but cannot control in which order
Tapestry includes it's own css or the thirdparty libraries / components.

Tested on 5.3 rc3, development mode.

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo

On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:04:18 -0200, Ville ville.virta...@cerion.fi wrote:


The problem is the thirdparty libraries:
If I include chenillekit, and that library includes css file for its  
window component, it is essential that my css comes after that -  
otherwise I have no way to override the styles.


Tapestry always put your CSS and JavaScript files after the  
component-provided ones. If not, this is a bug.



If I put MY CSS to @Import tag the result is this:
tapestry5 default css
mycss
css from tapestry5-jquery library

If I put MY css directly to the head the end result is this:
mycss
tapestry5 default css
css from tapestry5-jquery library


Have you tried without tapestry5-jquery, so we can be sure where the  
problem is? The tapestry5-jquery team had been done a wonderful job, but  
I've seen at least one bug specific to tapestry5-jquery that looked like a  
tapestry-core one. Nothing is perfect. :)


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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread François Facon
Hi Ville


 If I put MY css directly to the head the end result is this:
 mycss
 tapestry5 default css
 css from tapestry5-jquery library

did you try this in a layout component?

because I was able to override the default jquery theme with a

head
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
href=${context:css/cupertino/jquery-ui-1.8.16.custom.css} /
/head

in the layout template of the following basic application

https://github.com/got5/awlContact/blob/master/src/main/java/com/atosworldline/tapestry/components/Layout.tml

Regards
François

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread Barry Books
Good comment. That's even simpler. I'd still like some simple way to turn
off the defaults. Perhaps

@Import(stylesheet=false)

could clear the current stylesheets then I just put them in layout.tml.
Currently I'm using

public void
contributeMarkupRenderer(OrderedConfigurationMarkupRendererFilter
configuration) {
configuration.override(InjectDefaultStylesheet, new
MarkupRendererFilter() {

public void renderMarkup(MarkupWriter writer, MarkupRenderer
renderer) {
renderer.renderMarkup(writer);

}
});
}

to turn off the Tapestry one but it seems like there must be a better way.


Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread Ville
Hi,

I have overridden the default themeroller theme, this is no problem.

Take a look at this screenshot:
http://tinypic.com/r/r1djqc/5

It clearly demonstrates that tapestry-console.css, t5-alerts.css and
tree.css all come after my css -thus any overrides I have made take no
effect (To those classes). The first picture is taken using @Import in my
layout component.

The second is even more wrong, now using direct link rel=stylesheet tags
in the layout component:
http://tinypic.com/r/148b4n/5

Now my css is the dead first in the page, everything else coming after. And
yes, T5 respects the order in which I declare MY css files, but how can I
say that my css should be the last to include, always. (If the stack
contribution would use the normal after:/before: notation it could be done
using thous declaratives?)

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-08 Thread P . Stavrinides
Ordering of stylesheets is less of an issue imho, but I can see how excluding 
them can be important, as you could end up with tons of overrides that are 
excessive. 

So +1 for this idea:
 @Import(stylesheet=false)

Although I would rather prefer something along the lines of this for more 
precision:
@Exclude(stylesheet=default.css)

-Peter



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Subject: Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

Good comment. That's even simpler. I'd still like some simple way to turn
off the defaults. Perhaps

@Import(stylesheet=false)

could clear the current stylesheets then I just put them in layout.tml.
Currently I'm using

public void
contributeMarkupRenderer(OrderedConfigurationMarkupRendererFilter
configuration) {
configuration.override(InjectDefaultStylesheet, new
MarkupRendererFilter() {

public void renderMarkup(MarkupWriter writer, MarkupRenderer
renderer) {
renderer.renderMarkup(writer);

}
});
}

to turn off the Tapestry one but it seems like there must be a better way.

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-07 Thread Ville
Hi,

the problem arises when I use third party libs, namely Tap5-Jquery
(http://tapestry5-jquery.com/).

I have no means to control how they include their CSS. As a developer I want
to control the order in which CSS files get included stack by stack.

Can this be achieved by contributing to public static void
contributeJavaScriptStackSource(MappedConfigurationString, JavaScriptStack
configuration)? I suppose not, as this is MappedConfiguration, not ordered. 

Perhaps it's time for ordered mapped configuration. Atleast, CSS is heavily
dependant to the order and now I can't control it? Any thoughts?

 - Ville

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T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-06 Thread 9902468
Hi,

is there any documentation how the ordering of css is done? I've tried
stacks and straight imports, but I really haven't found any way to say that
my css is last. 

I use T5-jquery library and the included form.css is always attached later
than mine. (Effectively only way to override bits of that css is to write
inline css to my forms?)

 - Ville

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Re: T5.3 rc3 ordering of css

2011-11-06 Thread Steve Eynon
Hi,

I'm not sure where it is in the Docs (I can't see it on
http://tapestry.apache.org/css.html  ) but you can order your CSS by
placing the @Import on various render phase methods. i.e.

@Import(stylesheet=me-first.css)
void setupRender() {}

would come before any stylesheets declared with

@Import(stylesheet=me-last.css)
void cleanupRender() {}

Steve.


On 7 November 2011 04:05, 9902468 ville.virta...@greenstreet.fi wrote:
 Hi,

 is there any documentation how the ordering of css is done? I've tried
 stacks and straight imports, but I really haven't found any way to say that
 my css is last.

 I use T5-jquery library and the included form.css is always attached later
 than mine. (Effectively only way to override bits of that css is to write
 inline css to my forms?)

  - Ville

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