[xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-16 Thread Tobias Kirchhofer 
We just switched to 7.3 and loved it! Cleaner look and Nested Spaces was what
we where looking for. Thank you very much for this awesome work!

What we are irritated about is something which is hopefully just a lack of
understanding about rights. We have had groups and adjusted single pages
according to our access policies. Everything worked as expected. After
update to 7.3 all rights do not function anymore! The rights were not
changed but now every user can access every single page - even "Administer
Wiki" on the main wiki and on each subwiki!

We reinvented our whole security rules and rights to the certain pages with
no success.

Could someone please support us in narrowing down this issue?



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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-16 Thread vinc...@massol.net 
Hi Tobias,

On 16 Nov 2015 at 20:24:01, Tobias Kirchhofer 
(tob...@kirchhofer.net(mailto:tob...@kirchhofer.net)) wrote:

> We just switched to 7.3 and loved it! Cleaner look and Nested Spaces was what
> we where looking for. Thank you very much for this awesome work!

Cool!

> What we are irritated about is something which is hopefully just a lack of
> understanding about rights. We have had groups and adjusted single pages
> according to our access policies. Everything worked as expected. After
> update to 7.3 all rights do not function anymore! The rights were not
> changed but now every user can access every single page - even "Administer
> Wiki" on the main wiki and on each subwiki!
>  
> We reinvented our whole security rules and rights to the certain pages with
> no success.
>  
> Could someone please support us in narrowing down this issue?

Rest assured that we haven’t changed how rights worked and were set up. So we 
just need to find out what happened during your upgrade. This is really 
strange. At this point I have no point what could have happened.

Could you check the rights page in the Admin UI and tell us what you see there 
for the guest user and for users and groups? Also, is it different from what 
you were seeing before?

Is there a way for us to reproduce this? What version of XWiki were you using 
before upgrading to 7.3?

Thanks
-Vincent

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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-17 Thread vinc...@massol.net 

Just noticed another thread with this problem:
http://markmail.org/message/xzapsextekrsgml3

Two threads talking about the same issue, seems like we have a problem… :(

I’ve asked the user to create a jira issue on the other thread. We’ll try to 
reproduce.

Thanks
-Vincent


On 16 Nov 2015 at 20:32:59, vinc...@massol.net 
(vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net)) wrote:

> Hi Tobias,
>  
> On 16 Nov 2015 at 20:24:01, Tobias Kirchhofer 
> (tob...@kirchhofer.net(mailto:tob...@kirchhofer.net)) wrote:
>  
> > We just switched to 7.3 and loved it! Cleaner look and Nested Spaces was 
> > what
> > we where looking for. Thank you very much for this awesome work!  
>  
> Cool!  
>  
> > What we are irritated about is something which is hopefully just a lack of
> > understanding about rights. We have had groups and adjusted single pages
> > according to our access policies. Everything worked as expected. After
> > update to 7.3 all rights do not function anymore! The rights were not
> > changed but now every user can access every single page - even "Administer
> > Wiki" on the main wiki and on each subwiki!
> >
> > We reinvented our whole security rules and rights to the certain pages with
> > no success.
> >
> > Could someone please support us in narrowing down this issue?  
>  
> Rest assured that we haven’t changed how rights worked and were set up. So we 
> just need to find out what happened during your upgrade. This is really 
> strange. At this point I have no point what could have happened.  
>  
> Could you check the rights page in the Admin UI and tell us what you see 
> there for the guest user and for users and groups? Also, is it different from 
> what you were seeing before?  
>  
> Is there a way for us to reproduce this? What version of XWiki were you using 
> before upgrading to 7.3?  
>  
> Thanks  
> -Vincent
>  

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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-17 Thread Tobias Kirchhofer 
We came from 7.1.

Meanwhile we solved the issue by restoring the Main-Wiki database from
backup. We store our data in subwikis,  the main Wiki is just a welcome page
and holds the user (ldap). After restore from backup the permission system
worked like before also in subwikis. The rights settings here and there were
the same before and after.

Probably some weird side effect from migration.

We use XWiki as an Intranet - no free registration.

Tell me if we can support further with this issue.  



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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-17 Thread vinc...@massol.net 
Hi Tobias,

What would be great is if you could use 
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Check+Security+Cache and 
give us the result. This should tell us why the permissions you have set do not 
produce any result.

Two devs have been trying to reproduce the problem to no avail so far. So we 
really need more information on your setup before the migration. Running this 
extension could help a lot too.

Thanks
-Vincent

On 17 Nov 2015 at 12:05:55, Tobias Kirchhofer (tob...@kirchhofer.net) wrote:

We came from 7.1.  

Meanwhile we solved the issue by restoring the Main-Wiki database from  
backup. We store our data in subwikis, the main Wiki is just a welcome page  
and holds the user (ldap). After restore from backup the permission system  
worked like before also in subwikis. The rights settings here and there were  
the same before and after.  

Probably some weird side effect from migration.  

We use XWiki as an Intranet - no free registration.  

Tell me if we can support further with this issue.  
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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-17 Thread Tobias Kirchhofer 
What i can provide is the status quo which is working

https://cargo.shift.agency/data/public/xwiki

We don't have an instance with a non working status, sorry.



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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-17 Thread vinc...@massol.net 
Hi Tobias,
On 17 Nov 2015 at 13:12:34, Tobias Kirchhofer (tob...@kirchhofer.net) wrote:

What i can provide is the status quo which is working 

https://cargo.shift.agency/data/public/xwiki 

We don't have an instance with a non working status, sorry. 


Thanks but that’s not going to be very useful :)

You haven’t kept a backup of the non working instance by any chance?

Is there a way for you to provide us with a zip of the original 7.1 instance 
that failed to upgrade yo 7.3 (with private data removed)?

Thanks

-Vincent
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Re: [xwiki-users] Irritating problems with rights

2015-11-17 Thread Tobias Kirchhofer 
We could try to set up a „non-working“ instance by rebuilding a backup of the 
7.1 version with the old database and upgrade again looking if the effect comes 
back.

From my point if view the other issue seems to be a different problem - our 
right settings remained, his setting remains not persistent 
http://markmail.org/message/xzapsextekrsgml3

What do you think?

Thank you!
 Tobias 




On 17 Nov 2015, at 13:20, vmassol [via XWiki] wrote:

> Hi Tobias,
> On 17 Nov 2015 at 13:12:34, Tobias Kirchhofer (tob...@kirchhofer.net) wrote:
>
> What i can provide is the status quo which is working 
>
> https://cargo.shift.agency/data/public/xwiki 
>
> We don't have an instance with a non working status, sorry. 
>
>
> Thanks but that’s not going to be very useful :)
>
> You haven’t kept a backup of the non working instance by any chance?
>
> Is there a way for you to provide us with a zip of the original 7.1 instance 
> that failed to upgrade yo 7.3 (with private data removed)?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Vincent
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