RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey that’s great to hear,

Glad to hear there are still good people out here.

Cheers,

Simon Fogarty

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

Hi, Simon, and, everyone, great news to tell you all. My friend's iPhone was 
returned to her by way of the driver bringing it back to her. I don't know the 
details of how all this happened, meaning if the driver found her phone in his 
car and looked to find any contact information in her phone. She told me 
someone contacted him, so as I said I don't know the details about all of how 
she got her phone returned to her, the most important thing is that she has it. 
I'm just beginning to go through email now this morning so I want to thank 
Simon, and all of you that responded to my message. I'll copy the messages so 
she can read any tips and advice given, and send it to her, and keep all these 
messages in case information like this is needed again. My friend thanks all of 
you as well.

Arlene
- Original Message -
From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:28 AM
Subject: RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

If it’s an iphone then there is find my ipHone which she can log in to via the 
web browser on a computer,

If it’s an android,
There is a simplar product called (from memory) find my droid,

Either tool can let you remotely connect to the device either sounding an alerm,
Sending a message to it or remotely wiping the device so it’s not useable by 
anyone else.
The android find my droid,
I’m not sure of the details these daysbut there must be something on the net 
that your friend can check out.

Good luck to her.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2021 7:46 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

A friend wrote to me concerning accidently leaving her iPhone in a lyft car. 
Her insurance can't get in touch with lyft and the police say they can't do 
anything about it. I don't use this type of transportation so if this has 
happened to anyone else and how you were able to solve this with getting your 
phone returned to you, or if anyone knows what to do and or knows how to get in 
touch with lyft, please let me know and I'll pass the information on to her. I 
gave her the subscribing directions for subscribing to the list, but don't know 
if she'll get accepted and on to the list quick enough where this experience is 
concerned. Thank you for any helpful solutions.

Arlene


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Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Arlene]

Brad, I really appreciate this infirmation since we still have the original se. 
Thank you.

Arlene


  - Original Message - 
  From: Brad Snyder 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:16 AM
  Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions


  If you are using iOS 14, you should be aware there is a setting to minimize 
the appearance of the Phone app during a call, making it appear as a small 
banner, rather than the traditional full screen view with keypad visible.


  You can change this and restore the original appearance during calls as 
follows:
  1.  Go to Settings > Phone.
  2.  Swipe to Incoming Calls, and double tap to open.
  3.  Select Full Screen as your desired display style.


  HTH.


  - Brad -




  On Mar 11, 2021, at 08:01, Shirley Tracy  wrote:


  Thanks. I didn’t know that. 

  Have a great day.


  Shirley Tracy

  From: Richard Turner
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:48 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

  Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear 
because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may 
go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and 
then double tap on the keypad tab.
  you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have 
headphones on, that makes it easier.


  Richard

  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."
  "Why, what did she tell you?"
  "I don't know, I didn't listen."
  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:

 
Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I 
have a related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after 
someone has called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the 
call? Is it even possible?

Tks.

Shirley Tracy

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select 
speaker in call that should be on.
The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically 
switch to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.
Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will 
automatically switch to speaker.
Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull 
it away, it will switch to speaker.
The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.
You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th 
tab along the bottom of the screen.
The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It 
will not work unless VoiceOver is active.
HTH,


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always 
present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center 
when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver 
instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a 
voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on a 
phone call.
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive 
calls.
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to know 4 things.
>> 
>> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?
>> 
>> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would 
be happy if the number screen was always front and center.
>> 
>> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad 
would be front and center when I use the phone?
>> 
>> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?
>> 
>> 
>> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to 
answer and hang up.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any and all help!
>> 
>> nancy
>> 
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Re: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

[Arlene]

Hi, Simon, and, everyone, great news to tell you all. My friend's iPhone was 
returned to her by way of the driver bringing it back to her. I don't know the 
details of how all this happened, meaning if the driver found her phone in his 
car and looked to find any contact information in her phone. She told me 
someone contacted him, so as I said I don't know the details about all of how 
she got her phone returned to her, the most important thing is that she has it. 
I'm just beginning to go through email now this morning so I want to thank 
Simon, and all of you that responded to my message. I'll copy the messages so 
she can read any tips and advice given, and send it to her, and keep all these 
messages in case information like this is needed again. My friend thanks all of 
you as well.

Arlene
  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:28 AM
  Subject: RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution


  If it’s an iphone then there is find my ipHone which she can log in to via 
the web browser on a computer,

   

  If it’s an android,

  There is a simplar product called (from memory) find my droid,

   

  Either tool can let you remotely connect to the device either sounding an 
alerm,

  Sending a message to it or remotely wiping the device so it’s not useable by 
anyone else.

  The android find my droid,

  I’m not sure of the details these daysbut there must be something on the net 
that your friend can check out.

   

  Good luck to her.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
  Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2021 7:46 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

   

  A friend wrote to me concerning accidently leaving her iPhone in a lyft car. 
Her insurance can't get in touch with lyft and the police say they can't do 
anything about it. I don't use this type of transportation so if this has 
happened to anyone else and how you were able to solve this with getting your 
phone returned to you, or if anyone knows what to do and or knows how to get in 
touch with lyft, please let me know and I'll pass the information on to her. I 
gave her the subscribing directions for subscribing to the list, but don't know 
if she'll get accepted and on to the list quick enough where this experience is 
concerned. Thank you for any helpful solutions.

   

  Arlene

   

   

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Re: Masks & Face ID

[Maria Reyes]

yeah it'll be interesting to see how that new feature works. 

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> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:07 PM, Wendy Lin  wrote:
> 
>  Hi All,
> 
> Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 9to5 
> Mac, the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock your phone 
> if you have an Apple Watch.
> 
> Wendy
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>  
>> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id settings,
>>  
>> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
>>  
>> If you have two faces that is.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>>  
>> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
>> for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
>> phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>  
>>  
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
>> sherrywells1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:44 AM
>> To: 'VIPhone' 
>> Subject: Masks & Face ID
>>  
>> I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set 
>> it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more 
>> than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use 
>> in unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you 
>> would have done it.  I’m just curious though since it would make sense to 
>> allow more than one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.
>>  
>> Sherry Wells
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Re: Apple Event Rumored for March 23, iMac Pro Discontinued, and More

[Wendy Lin]

Lol thanks for sharing! It’s funny because I got an email from Mac Rumours with 
the same article.

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 5:16 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Morning world,
> Hey I thought this might have some interest for some,
>  
> Both the event for a couple of weeks away,
>  
> And if you are diabetic,
> Check out the rumours on the apple watch 7.
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> 
> A reliable Chinese leaker known as "Kang" this week said an Apple Event is 
> planned for Tuesday, March 23 
> ,
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> 
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> ,
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> ,
>  and a new Apple TV. A wildcard possibility is a redesigned iMac with an 
> Apple silicon chip.
> 
> If the rumor is accurate, Apple should officially announce the event early 
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Re: thinking of up grading phones

[Wendy Lin]

Whatever works. Everyone has their own preference how they like to unlock their 
phones.

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
> on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
> in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
> high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
> be great.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones
> 
> The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
> I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
> They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
> you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch 
> ID option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use 
> faceID I don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want 
> to purchase an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home 
> button.  My phone makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very 
> easy.
> 
> On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
>> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
>> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
>> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
>> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
>> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
>> deals on the 11.
>> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
>> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
>> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
>> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
>> mother told me when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
>> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
>> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
>> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
>> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
>> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>> 
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Ken
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>> 
>> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
>> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
>> Kenny
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Re: Masks & Face ID

[Wendy Lin]

Hi All,

Well based on the Youtube videos I’ve watched from Apple Insider and 9to5 Mac, 
the Face ID feature with the masks will only work to unlock your phone if you 
have an Apple Watch.

Wendy

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
>  
> IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id settings,
>  
> So in a way you can have both faces in there.
>  
> If you have two faces that is.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
> for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
> phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:44 AM
> To: 'VIPhone' mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Masks & Face ID
>  
> I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set 
> it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more 
> than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
> unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you would 
> have done it.  I’m just curious though since it would make sense to allow 
> more than one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.
>  
> Sherry Wells
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RE: Transit near address

[Richard Turner]

Do you have BlindSquare?  With that you can simulate a location and look for 
transit stops.

Also, the free Good Maps Explorer may be able to do that.
It will show up on your device as Explorer.


Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 5:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transit near address

No, we are house hunting, so I wanted to put in an address and see if any 
transit is nearby. Possibly get walking directions to the nearest stop. 

Thanks,
Traci 

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner  
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> Are you talking about entering an address you are at to find the nearest 
> transit stops to you?
> If so, try the free Lazarillo app.
> 
> 
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
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> Hi all, what is your preferred method to find nearest transit to an address.
> 
> I've looked in apple maps and google maps, but not seeing an easy way to 
> enter in an address then look for nearby transit. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Transit near address

[Traci Duncan]

No, we are house hunting, so I wanted to put in an address and see if any 
transit is nearby. Possibly get walking directions to the nearest stop. 

Thanks,
Traci 

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> Are you talking about entering an address you are at to find the nearest 
> transit stops to you?
> If so, try the free Lazarillo app.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
> Duncan
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Transit near address
> 
> Hi all, what is your preferred method to find nearest transit to an address.
> 
> I've looked in apple maps and google maps, but not seeing an easy way to 
> enter in an address then look for nearby transit. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: strange issue with phone identification

[Joseph Hudson]

That's because the name comes up on the caller ID comes up as the account 
holders name. T-Mobile can make this adjustment for you by calling 611.

> On Mar 11, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> Today I was working on my computer with my cell phone on the table next to 
> me. The screen was locked on the phone and I was alone at that moment.
>  
> My land line rang and it said it was my cell phone calling, announcing my 
> name as the caller.
>  
> When I checked the number, it was my husband's cell phone number announcing 
> my name. He had indeed called me from the grocery store, so it was his phone.
>  
> He checked the name under about in general settings, and it was his name. The 
> account is in his name as well. We are both using the latest IOS update.
>  
> The only thing we have in common as far as the phone is T-Mobile. The 
> T-Mobile account is in my name, but his phone and number, as well as his 
> Apple ID are all his.
>  
> What would make it show up as my name with his number when he calls someone? 
> Where can we look to change it?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
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strange issue with phone identification

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

Today I was working on my computer with my cell phone on the table next to me. 
The screen was locked on the phone and I was alone at that moment.

My land line rang and it said it was my cell phone calling, announcing my name 
as the caller.

When I checked the number, it was my husband's cell phone number announcing my 
name. He had indeed called me from the grocery store, so it was his phone.

He checked the name under about in general settings, and it was his name. The 
account is in his name as well. We are both using the latest IOS update.

The only thing we have in common as far as the phone is T-Mobile. The T-Mobile 
account is in my name, but his phone and number, as well as his Apple ID are 
all his.

What would make it show up as my name with his number when he calls someone? 
Where can we look to change it?

Thanks.

Vicki

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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Simon A Fogarty]

Only if you had them on the tip of your nose.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 12:13 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

Hi Simon,
No, that won't work as you would get your nasty booger's on the screen. LOL Mr. 
Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

I've thought about this myself,

I wondered how we would get on if you could have the tip of your nose as a 
finger print on your phone so if you do have wet fingers, You could use your 
nose?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that Face ID is great if you happen to 
have wet finger tips.  After washing dishes, I cannot unlock my phone without 
using my passcode.  I have the SE 2nd gen, so no face ID.  But when I was 
working and used the iPHone 11, the Face ID worked great.
Just drying your hands with a towel doesn't always get enough of the moisture 
off to not mess up the fingerprint sensor.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
be great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch ID 
option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use faceID I 
don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want to purchase 
an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home button.  My phone 
makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very easy.

On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
> deals on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
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> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
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>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Simon,
No, that won't work as you would get your nasty booger's on the screen. LOL
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

I've thought about this myself,

I wondered how we would get on if you could have the tip of your nose as a 
finger print on your phone so if you do have wet fingers,
You could use your nose?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that Face ID is great if you happen to 
have wet finger tips.  After washing dishes, I cannot unlock my phone without 
using my passcode.  I have the SE 2nd gen, so no face ID.  But when I was 
working and used the iPHone 11, the Face ID worked great.
Just drying your hands with a towel doesn't always get enough of the moisture 
off to not mess up the fingerprint sensor.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
be great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch ID 
option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use faceID I 
don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want to purchase 
an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home button.  My phone 
makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very easy.

On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
> deals on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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RE: new Ipad air

[Simon A Fogarty]

I think they were lookin at the iPad not the pro and air,

Really to me the pro and air are some what similar,
I’m tempted to say the air is half pro,

And I’d say a good buy in most ways.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 5:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new Ipad air

Here is a link that might help that compares the iPad Air and iPad Pro:
2020 iPad Air vs. iPad Pro: Hands-On Comparison - 
MacRumors



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new Ipad air

I think so. Might go with an ipad. I’m not sure what the differences are 
between an air and the regular ipad which does have a mb128 model.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new Ipad air

As far as I know, no, that is what they chose to do and I think its 150 more 
for the 256 than 64, right?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new Ipad air

I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw the 
models jump from gb64 to gb256. Is there not a gb128 model?

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RE: new Ipad air

[Simon A Fogarty]

That is possible,

The iPad mini 5 does that.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 5:34 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new Ipad air

I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw the 
models jump from gb64 to gb256. Is there not a gb128 model?

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RE: Masks & Face ID

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Richard,

IOS 14 also allows you to have an alternate face in your face id settings,

So in a way you can have both faces in there.

If you have two faces that is.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID

You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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Subject: Masks & Face ID

I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set it 
up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more than 
one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you would have 
done it.  I’m just curious though since it would make sense to allow more than 
one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.

Sherry Wells
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Simon A Fogarty]

I have to agree,

I’m looking to update my 11 pro max but I’m getting the 13 rather than the 12 
simply because the 5g tech is still in the early stages,
And if there is an underscreen touch id then hey double the security options.

The only thing we have to watch with face id is if attention mode is on,
I know for myself looking at the camera is next to bloody impossible and I can 
look people directly in the eye

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:45 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

I agree with Sieghard on all counts.
Face ID works quite well, blind or not, and also finger dexterity might make 
entering a passcode hard, but it shouldn’t effect touch ID since you just have 
to touch the home button after training it, and training it is just touching it 
at slightly different angles until it learns your finger.

And, on upgrading, unless you need a new phone right now because your current 
phone is malfunctioning, wait and see what the 13 offers, plus, the 11 prices 
will drop when the 13 comes out.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock your 
phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock my 
phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires me to 
put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting 
released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face Id and a 
mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check 
something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull 
my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe 
up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my 
PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wendy 
Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

Wendy

On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID 
since there is no  touch ID.
It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it 
that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on 
the 11.
Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that 
is part of the iPhone 12.
HTH,

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t 
take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other 
physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the 
phone.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thinking of up grading phones

Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
Kenny
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Simon A Fogarty]

That's somewhat bad luck for you folks,

We heerre in NZ don't have to wear masks unless traveling on planes or public 
transport and that has only been a rule for the passed 2 weeks,

But I thought apple and Samsung did something to allow the phones to scan your 
face while wearing a mask and it works. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:39 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

the mask has made using face id so annoying. Other than that most of the time 
it works.

On 3/11/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to 
> unlock your phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I 
> have to unlock my phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and 
> wearing my mask requires me to put in my passcode. I have an Apple 
> Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting released because Apple has made 
> it possible to do all that with Face Id and a mask on as long as you 
> also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check something when I am 
> walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull my phone 
> out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe 
> up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my 
> PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wendy Lin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones
>
> I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since 
> I’m blind, and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.
>
> Wendy
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
> mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>
> No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
> You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money 
> on the iPhone 11, 5G is the future.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with 
> the Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
> deals on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From:
> viphone@googlegroups.com legroups.com>
> On Behalf Of Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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RE: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Simon A Fogarty]

Interesting,

I have’t heard of anyone  purchasing one yet but I was lead to believe that the 
battery life wasn’t great in the mini,

It was really the size that they were pushing as a replacement size or format 
to that of the SE but with the face id and 5g features.

I wonder what this does for the 13’s format range.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:30 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand
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Apple has informed partner suppliers that it has reduced iPhone 12 
mini production plans for the 
first half of 2021, with manufacturing of some specialty parts suspended 
altogether, according to a report on Wednesday.

Citing industry sources familiar with the matter, Nikkei reports major 
suppliers were recently 
informed of the 
production shift that marks a change in Apple's procurement strategy. Prior to 
the reported downward revision, the tech giant was aggressively buying 
semiconductors, printed circuit boards and displays amid a worldwide parts 
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Simon A Fogarty]

I've thought about this myself,

I wondered how we would get on if you could have the tip of your nose as a 
finger print on your phone so if you do have wet fingers,
You could use your nose?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 March 2021 4:29 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that Face ID is great if you happen to 
have wet finger tips.  After washing dishes, I cannot unlock my phone without 
using my passcode.  I have the SE 2nd gen, so no face ID.  But when I was 
working and used the iPHone 11, the Face ID worked great.
Just drying your hands with a towel doesn't always get enough of the moisture 
off to not mess up the fingerprint sensor.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
be great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch ID 
option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use faceID I 
don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want to purchase 
an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home button.  My phone 
makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very easy.

On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
> deals on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>
> --
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>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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RE: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Shirley Tracy]

Thanks, Brad. I’m not using IOS 14, but I’ll keep that information in mind for future.   Shirley Tracy From: Brad SnyderSent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 10:16 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions If you are using iOS 14, you should be aware there is a setting to minimize the appearance of the Phone app during a call, making it appear as a small banner, rather than the traditional full screen view with keypad visible. You can change this and restore the original appearance during calls as follows:1.  Go to Settings > Phone.2.  Swipe to Incoming Calls, and double tap to open.3.  Select Full Screen as your desired display style. HTH.- Brad - On Mar 11, 2021, at 08:01, Shirley Tracy  wrote: Thanks. I didn’t know that.  Have a great day.  Shirley Tracy From: Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:48 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and then double tap on the keypad tab.you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have headphones on, that makes it easier.  Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.""Why, what did she tell you?""I don't know, I didn't listen."-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote: Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I have a related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after someone has called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the call? Is it even possible? Tks. Shirley Tracy From: Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select speaker in call that should be on.The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will automatically switch to speaker.Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull it away, it will switch to speaker.The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th tab along the bottom of the screen.The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It will not work unless VoiceOver is active.HTH,  Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.""Why, what did she tell you?""I don't know, I didn't listen."-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:> > Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on a phone call.> >> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:>> >> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive calls.>> >> >> I would like to know 4 things.>> >> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?>> >> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would be happy if the number screen was always front and center.>> >> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad would be front and center when I use the phone?>> >> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?>> >> >> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to answer and hang up.>> >> >> Thanks for any and all help!>> >> nancy>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.>> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.>> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >> The 

Re: new Ipad air

[Brad Snyder]

If you want an iPad with 128 GB of storage, you'll need to get the standard 
iPad, which is a very capable device and should be all you'll need to do most 
things.
My wife has the seventh generation version of the standard iPad with 128 GB of 
storage, and she is very happy with this device. The eighth generation has a 
step newer processor, and should be even more capable of doing whatever it is 
you need to do.

- Brad -

On Mar 11, 2021, at 10:45, Richard Turner  wrote:


As far as I know, no, that is what they chose to do and I think its 150 more 
for the 256 than 64, right?
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new Ipad air
 
I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw the 
models jump from gb64 to gb256. Is there not a gb128 model?
 
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RE: Putting pictures back on the phone from the computer

[Carla]

We tried that once before but will try it again.  Thanks.  Will let you know if 
it works.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Putting pictures back on the phone from the computer
 
You could try reversing what you did to get them off, but not knowing how you 
did that, I’m not sure.
 
Otherwise, you could import tham into iTunes and then sync your phone with 
itunes making sure that photos are checked for syncing.
 
 
 
Richard
 
Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com  
 
 
 
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I took pictures and videos off of my phone but now that I have more gigs I 
would like to put them back on the phone.  Does anyone have instructions for 
doing that?  Thanks!
 
Carla
 
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RE: Putting pictures back on the phone from the computer

[Richard Turner]

You could try reversing what you did to get them off, but not knowing how you 
did that, I'm not sure.

Otherwise, you could import tham into iTunes and then sync your phone with 
itunes making sure that photos are checked for syncing.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 10:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I took pictures and videos off of my phone but now that I have more gigs I 
would like to put them back on the phone.  Does anyone have instructions for 
doing that?  Thanks!

Carla

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Putting pictures back on the phone from the computer

[Carla]

I took pictures and videos off of my phone but now that I have more gigs I
would like to put them back on the phone.  Does anyone have instructions for
doing that?  Thanks!
 
Carla
 

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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Carolyn]

Definitely far more convenient than passcode. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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There’s nothing wrong with using pass codes, but face ID is perfectly usable by 
a blind person. I find it more convenient then a passcode myself.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

 

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

 

Wendy





On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

 

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.

You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on 
the iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

 

- Brad -


On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
Face ID since there is no  touch ID.

It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait 
until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor 
has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.

But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
deals on the 11.

Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it 
since that is part of the iPhone 12.

HTH,

 

Richard

 

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a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





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mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:



No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both 
of which have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of 
the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use 
the other physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or 
reset the phone.

 

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 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ken
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Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning 
curve, too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.

Kenny

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RE: Transit near address

[Richard Turner]

Are you talking about entering an address you are at to find the nearest 
transit stops to you?
If so, try the free Lazarillo app.


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Hi all, what is your preferred method to find nearest transit to an address.

I've looked in apple maps and google maps, but not seeing an easy way to enter 
in an address then look for nearby transit. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Transit near address

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Hi all, what is your preferred method to find nearest transit to an address.

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Re: Masks & Face ID

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You can have two faces stored, but they can't be masked. In iOS 14.5, if you 
are masked and are wearing an unlocked Apple Watch, the watch will unlock your 
phone.

Best,
Anna


> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
> 
> Not so on recent versions of iOS.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 11, 2021, at 09:45, Richard Turner  > wrote:
> 
> You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
> for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
> phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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> realize that you are in a hurry.
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> I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set 
> it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more 
> than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
> unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you would 
> have done it.  I’m just curious though since it would make sense to allow 
> more than one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.
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RE: new Ipad air

[Richard Turner]

Here is a link that might help that compares the iPad Air and iPad Pro:
2020 iPad Air vs. iPad Pro: Hands-On Comparison - 
MacRumors



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: new Ipad air

I think so. Might go with an ipad. I'm not sure what the differences are 
between an air and the regular ipad which does have a mb128 model.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: new Ipad air

As far as I know, no, that is what they chose to do and I think its 150 more 
for the 256 than 64, right?



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I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw the 
models jump from gb64 to gb256. Is there not a gb128 model?

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RE: new Ipad air

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I think so. Might go with an ipad. I’m not sure what the differences are 
between an air and the regular ipad which does have a mb128 model.

 

 

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Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 10:45 AM
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As far as I know, no, that is what they chose to do and I think its 150 more 
for the 256 than 64, right?

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com  

 

 

 

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Subject: new Ipad air

 

I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw the 
models jump from gb64 to gb256. Is there not a gb128 model?

 

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RE: new Ipad air

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As far as I know, no, that is what they chose to do and I think its 150 more 
for the 256 than 64, right?



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I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw the 
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new Ipad air

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I was looking at the new Ipad air to see what was available. It seems I saw
the models jump from gb64 to gb256. Is there not a gb128 model?

 

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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Larry Lumpkin]

Sorry, the text finally reappeared after I restarted JAWS.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

 

I agree with Sieghard on all counts.

Face ID works quite well, blind or not, and also finger dexterity might make 
entering a passcode hard, but it shouldn’t effect touch ID since you just have 
to touch the home button after training it, and training it is just touching it 
at slightly different angles until it learns your finger.

 

And, on upgrading, unless you need a new phone right now because your current 
phone is malfunctioning, wait and see what the 13 offers, plus, the 11 prices 
will drop when the 13 comes out.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

 

Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock your 
phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock my 
phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires me to 
put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting 
released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face Id and a 
mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check 
something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull 
my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe 
up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my 
PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

 

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

 

Wendy

 

On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

 

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.

You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

 

- Brad -


On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID 
since there is no  touch ID.

It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it 
that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.

But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on 
the 11.

Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that 
is part of the iPhone 12.

HTH,

 

Richard

 

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On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:



No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t 
take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other 
physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the 
phone.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: thinking of up grading phones

 

Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.

Kenny

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[Larry Lumpkin]

No text here.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 9:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

 

I agree with Sieghard on all counts.

Face ID works quite well, blind or not, and also finger dexterity might make 
entering a passcode hard, but it shouldn’t effect touch ID since you just have 
to touch the home button after training it, and training it is just touching it 
at slightly different angles until it learns your finger.

 

And, on upgrading, unless you need a new phone right now because your current 
phone is malfunctioning, wait and see what the 13 offers, plus, the 11 prices 
will drop when the 13 comes out.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,   www.turner42.com

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

 

Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock your 
phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock my 
phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires me to 
put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting 
released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face Id and a 
mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check 
something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull 
my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe 
up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my 
PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

 

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

 

Wendy

 

On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > wrote:

 

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.

You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

 

- Brad -


On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID 
since there is no  touch ID.

It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it 
that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.

But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on 
the 11.

Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that 
is part of the iPhone 12.

HTH,

 

Richard

 

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space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

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On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:



No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t 
take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other 
physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the 
phone.

 

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Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
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To hook Alexa to the internet, either go in the app to wifi or on an echo show, 
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Re: Masks & Face ID

[Brad Snyder]

Not so on recent versions of iOS.

- Brad -


On Mar 11, 2021, at 09:45, Richard Turner  wrote:

You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.
 
 
 
Richard
 
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I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set it 
up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more than 
one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you would have 
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Yes, FaceID allows for more than one face, but presently, FaceID will not work 
with a masked face.


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On Mar 11, 2021, at 09:43,  
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I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set it 
up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more than 
one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
unlocking the phone.  I’m guessing this isn’t possible or one of you would have 
done it.  I’m just curious though since it would make sense to allow more than 
one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.
 
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RE: Masks & Face ID

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You can only have one face, but apparently it looks like iOS 14.5 will allow 
for masks during face ID.  Not sure how that will work, but those who have a 
phone with face ID can find out once 14.5 is released.



Richard

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I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set it 
up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more than 
one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use in 
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Richard Turner]

I agree with Sieghard on all counts.
Face ID works quite well, blind or not, and also finger dexterity might make 
entering a passcode hard, but it shouldn’t effect touch ID since you just have 
to touch the home button after training it, and training it is just touching it 
at slightly different angles until it learns your finger.

And, on upgrading, unless you need a new phone right now because your current 
phone is malfunctioning, wait and see what the 13 offers, plus, the 11 prices 
will drop when the 13 comes out.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock your 
phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock my 
phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires me to 
put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting 
released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face Id and a 
mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check 
something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull 
my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe 
up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my 
PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wendy 
Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

Wendy

On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID 
since there is no  touch ID.
It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it 
that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on 
the 11.
Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that 
is part of the iPhone 12.
HTH,

Richard

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space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t 
take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other 
physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the 
phone.

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Chaltain at Outlook

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Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thinking of up grading phones

Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
Kenny
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Masks & Face ID

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I have an IPhone 8 so still use touch id.  When you set that up you can set
it up for more than one finger.  With face id, can you set it up with more
than one face?  If so, you could have both masked & unmasked faces for use
in unlocking the phone.  I'm guessing this isn't possible or one of you
would have done it.  I'm just curious though since it would make sense to
allow more than one face just as it does to allow more than one finger.

 

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Re: thinking of up grading phones

[lenron brown]

the mask has made using face id so annoying. Other than that most of
the time it works.

On 3/11/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock
> your phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock
> my phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires
> me to put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5
> getting released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face
> Id and a mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to
> check something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can
> just pull my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually
> manage a swipe up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI
> have to enter my PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy
> Lin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones
>
> I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m
> blind, and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.
>
> Wendy
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder
> mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>
> No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
> You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the
> iPhone 11, 5G is the future.
>
> - Brad -
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face
> ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait
> until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals
> on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers
> charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since
> that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain
> mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have
> home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it
> didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the
> screen to get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use
> the other physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or
> reset the phone.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From:
> viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> On Behalf Of Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too
> using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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Re: thinking of up grading phones

[Brad Snyder]

I wouldn't worry about any of this nonsense. There's always something new or 
rumored on the horizon.
If you want or need a new iPhone, go ahead and do it now.

- Brad -

On Mar 11, 2021, at 09:28, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I would highly recommend not to upgrade now. It's already mid March and whil 
the new 2021 phones are still 6 months away, an iPhon e8 is a good phone and I 
assume it probably works well. Especially if you were thinking of buying an 
iPhone 12 it is better to wait, if you can get a really good deal on an iPhone 
11 and if you don't care to have Touch Id as well as Face Id and you are not 
concerned about 5G and what the Lidar capable hardware might be capable of with 
respec tto blindness related app s then its OK to get an iPhone 11 now. In my 
opinion the 11 Pro or 11 Pro Max are a waste of money and they don't give a 
blind person a lot of advantages and as I said, I strongly discourage anybody 
from the iPhone 12 models because of their first generation 5G support, lack of 
Lidar except of in the Pro Max and maybe the Pro (I forget if only the Pro Max 
has it or also the Pro), but I know the regular 12 and 12 SE definitely don't 
have it.
If you are somebody who likes to get more than 2 or even 3 years out of an 
iPhone the iPhone 13 will in my opinion be the way to go.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not sure what being blind has to do with Face Id and being able to unlock your 
phone way easier and faster. I really hate it now when I have to unlock my 
phone in a store or authenticate a purchase and wearing my mask requires me to 
put in my passcode. I have an Apple Watch so I can't wait for 14.5 getting 
released because Apple has made it possible to do all that with Face Id and a 
mask on as long as you also wear your Apple Watch. I often want to check 
something when I am walking along with my dog and with Face I d I can just pull 
my phone out of it's belt case with my right hand, I can usually manage a swipe 
up and then I just glance at my phone and it unlocks. If iI have to enter my 
PIN I have to stop, drop the harness and use two hands.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

Wendy


On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID 
since there is no  touch ID.
It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it 
that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on 
the 11.
Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that 
is part of the iPhone 12.
HTH,

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t 
take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other 
physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the 
phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thinking of up grading phones

Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
Kenny
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Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand

[Brad Snyder]

Apple reportedly cuts iPhone 12 mini production amid tepid demand
Mikey CampbellMar 10, 2021

Apple has informed partner suppliers that it has reduced iPhone 12 mini 
production plans for the first half of 2021, with manufacturing of some 
specialty parts suspended altogether, according to a report on Wednesday. 

Citing industry sources familiar with the matter, Nikkei reports major 
suppliers were recently informed of the production shift that marks a change in 
Apple's procurement strategy. Prior to the reported downward revision, the tech 
giant was aggressively buying semiconductors, printed circuit boards and 
displays amid a worldwide parts shortage. 

Apple is targeting output at around 75 million iPhone units for the first half 
of 2021, down 20% from December 2020, the report says. Much of that downgrade 
is blamed on iPhone 12 mini. Nikkeisources note that demand for other iPhone 
models like the iPhone 12 Proremains strong. 

Today's report echoes rumblings out of Apple's Asian supply chain in 
Januarywhen Pegatron supposedly saw reduced orders for the diminutive iPhone. 
Foxconn, which is tasked with assembling the iPhone 12 Pro and 12 Pro Max, 
received an increase in orders for those models during the same period.

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modern iPhone including 5G connectivity, A14 Bionic processor, dual 12MP 
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Word of a soft demand first surfaced in November with TF Securities analyst 
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Richard Turner]

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that Face ID is great if you happen to 
have wet finger tips.  After washing dishes, I cannot unlock my phone without 
using my passcode.  I have the SE 2nd gen, so no face ID.  But when I was 
working and used the iPHone 11, the Face ID worked great.
Just drying your hands with a towel doesn't always get enough of the moisture 
off to not mess up the fingerprint sensor.



Richard

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thinking of up grading phones

And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
be great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch ID 
option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use faceID I 
don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want to purchase 
an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home button.  My phone 
makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very easy.

On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
> deals on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would highly recommend not to upgrade now. It's already mid March and whil 
the new 2021 phones are still 6 months away, an iPhon e8 is a good phone and I 
assume it probably works well. Especially if you were thinking of buying an 
iPhone 12 it is better to wait, if you can get a really good deal on an iPhone 
11 and if you don't care to have Touch Id as well as Face Id and you are not 
concerned about 5G and what the Lidar capable hardware might be capable of with 
respec tto blindness related app s then its OK to get an iPhone 11 now. In my 
opinion the 11 Pro or 11 Pro Max are a waste of money and they don't give a 
blind person a lot of advantages and as I said, I strongly discourage anybody 
from the iPhone 12 models because of their first generation 5G support, lack of 
Lidar except of in the Pro Max and maybe the Pro (I forget if only the Pro Max 
has it or also the Pro), but I know the regular 12 and 12 SE definitely don't 
have it.
If you are somebody who likes to get more than 2 or even 3 years out of an 
iPhone the iPhone 13 will in my opinion be the way to go.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thinking of up grading phones

Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
Kenny
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RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And with Face Id you simply look at yoru phone instead of putting your finger 
on the home button, as others pointed out, it's just as easy and seamless and 
in some cases it works even better in others not. It seems there is a pretty 
high probability that this Fall's iPhone will have both which would of course 
be great.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

The nice thing is, you don't have to use face ID if you don't want to.
I remember a while ago, I talked to someone at apple accessibility.
They were very helpful, and told me, that if you didn't want to use face ID, 
you could use your pass-code instead.  If the iPhone 13 doesn't have a touch ID 
option, that's what I'm going to do.  I'm glad if I don't want to use faceID I 
don't have to.  I do like touch ID a lot, though, because if I want to purchase 
an app, all I have to do, is just put my thumb on the home button.  My phone 
makes a little ding, and I've purchased my app.  Its very easy.

On 3/10/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the 
> Face ID since there is no  touch ID.
> It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to 
> wait until we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall.
> Rumor has it that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
> But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good 
> deals on the 11.
> Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some 
> carriers charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently 
> offer it since that is part of the iPhone 12.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in 
> a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
> mother told me when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which 
> have home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, 
> and it didn’t take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the 
> bottom of the screen to get to the home page or bring up the app 
> switcher. You also use the other physical buttons to do things like 
> toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the phone.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ken
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thinking of up grading phones
>
> Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, 
> too using a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
> Kenny
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RE: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Brad for pointing that out.
I keep forgetting to tell people about that.  It can be rather annoying when 
the phone is just a tiny banner.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

If you are using iOS 14, you should be aware there is a setting to minimize the 
appearance of the Phone app during a call, making it appear as a small banner, 
rather than the traditional full screen view with keypad visible.

You can change this and restore the original appearance during calls as follows:
1.  Go to Settings > Phone.
2.  Swipe to Incoming Calls, and double tap to open.
3.  Select Full Screen as your desired display style.

HTH.

- Brad -

On Mar 11, 2021, at 08:01, Shirley Tracy 
mailto:shirleytrac...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks. I didn’t know that.

Have a great day.


Shirley Tracy

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear 
because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may 
go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and 
then double tap on the keypad tab.
you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have 
headphones on, that makes it easier.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy 
mailto:shirleytrac...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I have a 
related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after someone has 
called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the call? Is it 
even possible?

Tks.

Shirley Tracy

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select 
speaker in call that should be on.
The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically switch 
to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.
Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will 
automatically switch to speaker.
Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull it 
away, it will switch to speaker.
The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.
You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th tab 
along the bottom of the screen.
The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It will 
not work unless VoiceOver is active.
HTH,


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson 
> mailto:jhud7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always 
> present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center 
> when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver 
> instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a 
> voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on 
> a phone call.
>
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill 
>> mailto:girlyscr...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive calls.
>>
>>
>> I would like to know 4 things.
>>
>> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?
>>
>> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would be 
>> happy if the number screen was always front and center.
>>
>> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad would 
>> be front and center when I use the phone?
>>
>> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?
>>
>>
>> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to answer 
>> and hang 

Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Brad Snyder]

If you are using iOS 14, you should be aware there is a setting to minimize the 
appearance of the Phone app during a call, making it appear as a small banner, 
rather than the traditional full screen view with keypad visible.

You can change this and restore the original appearance during calls as follows:
1.  Go to Settings > Phone.
2.  Swipe to Incoming Calls, and double tap to open.
3.  Select Full Screen as your desired display style.

HTH.

- Brad -


On Mar 11, 2021, at 08:01, Shirley Tracy  wrote:

Thanks. I didn’t know that. 
 
Have a great day.
 
 
Shirley Tracy
 
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions
 
Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear 
because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may 
go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and 
then double tap on the keypad tab.
you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have 
headphones on, that makes it easier.
 
 
Richard
 
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy mailto:shirleytrac...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 
Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I have a 
related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after someone has 
called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the call? Is it 
even possible?
 
Tks.
 
Shirley Tracy
 
From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions
 
there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select 
speaker in call that should be on.
The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically switch 
to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.
Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will 
automatically switch to speaker.
Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull it 
away, it will switch to speaker.
The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.
You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th tab 
along the bottom of the screen.
The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It will 
not work unless VoiceOver is active.
HTH,
 
 
Richard
 
"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
 
> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always 
> present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center 
> when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver 
> instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a 
> voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on 
> a phone call.
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive calls.
>> 
>> 
>> I would like to know 4 things.
>> 
>> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?
>> 
>> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would be 
>> happy if the number screen was always front and center.
>> 
>> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad would 
>> be front and center when I use the phone?
>> 
>> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?
>> 
>> 
>> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to answer 
>> and hang up.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any and all help!
>> 
>> nancy
>> 
>> 
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RE: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Shirley Tracy]

Thanks. I didn’t know that.  Have a great day.  Shirley Tracy From: Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:48 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and then double tap on the keypad tab.you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have headphones on, that makes it easier.  Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.""Why, what did she tell you?""I don't know, I didn't listen."-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The GalaxyOn Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote: Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I have a related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after someone has called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the call? Is it even possible? Tks. Shirley Tracy From: Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select speaker in call that should be on.The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will automatically switch to speaker.Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull it away, it will switch to speaker.The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th tab along the bottom of the screen.The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It will not work unless VoiceOver is active.HTH,  Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.""Why, what did she tell you?""I don't know, I didn't listen."-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:> > Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on a phone call.> >> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:>> >> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive calls.>> >> >> I would like to know 4 things.>> >> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?>> >> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would be happy if the number screen was always front and center.>> >> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad would be front and center when I use the phone?>> >> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?>> >> >> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to answer and hang up.>> >> >> Thanks for any and all help!>> >> nancy>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.>> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.>> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >> The archives for this list can be searched at:>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="">>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="">> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn 

Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Richard Turner]

Yes. While on the call, you would need to pull the phone away from your ear 
because the screen won't respond if it is too close to your head, and so it may 
go on speaker which is good so you can hear VoiceOver. Open the phone app, and 
then double tap on the keypad tab.
you can access any app on the phone while talking. Of course, if you have 
headphones on, that makes it easier.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Mar 11, 2021, at 4:35 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:


Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I have a 
related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after someone has 
called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the call? Is it 
even possible?

Tks.

Shirley Tracy

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions

there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select 
speaker in call that should be on.
The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically switch 
to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.
Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will 
automatically switch to speaker.
Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull it 
away, it will switch to speaker.
The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.
You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th tab 
along the bottom of the screen.
The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It will 
not work unless VoiceOver is active.
HTH,


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>
> Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always 
> present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center 
> when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver 
> instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a 
> voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on 
> a phone call.
>
>> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:
>>
>> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive calls.
>>
>>
>> I would like to know 4 things.
>>
>> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?
>>
>> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would be 
>> happy if the number screen was always front and center.
>>
>> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad would 
>> be front and center when I use the phone?
>>
>> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?
>>
>>
>> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to answer 
>> and hang up.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any and all help!
>>
>> nancy
>>
>>
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RE: a couple of original SE basic questions

[Shirley Tracy]

Following the question you just answered for someone else on the list, I have a related query: Sometimes, I have a need to access the key pad after someone has called me on my IPhone. How can I open it while I’m already on the call? Is it even possible? Tks. Shirley Tracy From: Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 11:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: a couple of original SE basic questions there is a setting under the VoiceOver settings, Audio called auto select speaker in call that should be on.The description of that setting says, During audio calls, automatically switch to the speaker when not holding your iPhone to your ear.Meaning that if you put the phone by your ear, and pull it away, it will automatically switch to speaker.Or, if you just place your hand over the upper half of the phone and pull it away, it will switch to speaker.The keypad should show up if you use Siri to place a call.You can also open the phone app, and double tap on keypad which is the 4th tab along the bottom of the screen.The two finger double tap to answer or hang up is a VoiceOver function. It will not work unless VoiceOver is active.HTH,  Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.""Why, what did she tell you?""I don't know, I didn't listen."-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:26 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:> > Well, if I understand your question. The speakerphone button is always present when the keypad is hidden. And the keypad is always front and center when on a call if you don't hide it. And as far as when she do use VoiceOver instead of Siri the only time that you have to worry about just using just a voiceover, is when you're not on a call. As you can't use her when you're on a phone call.> >> On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:37 PM, Nancy Hill  wrote:>> >> I have the original I phone SE.  I mainly use it to make and receive calls.>> >> >> I would like to know 4 things.>> >> 1.  What is the easiest way to turn on the speaker phone function?>> >> 2. What is the easiest way to bring the number pad on the screen?I would be happy if the number screen was always front and center.>> >> 3.  Is there a way to set the SE so the speaker phone and number pad would be front and center when I use the phone?>> >> 4. When should I use VoiceOver instead of siri?>> >> >> I only use siri to make calls and use a split finger double tap to answer and hang up.>> >> >> Thanks for any and all help!>> >> nancy>> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.>> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.>> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >> The archives for this list can be searched at:>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="">>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="">> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > The archives for this list can be searched at:> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="">> --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.> To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=""> -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched 

RE: thinking of up grading phones

[Christopher Chaltain]

There’s nothing wrong with using pass codes, but face ID is perfectly usable by 
a blind person. I find it more convenient then a passcode myself.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thinking of up grading phones

I’ve always stuck to passcode. I don’t see the use of Face ID since I’m blind, 
and my degstarity is not the greatest for Touch ID.

Wendy


On Mar 10, 2021, at 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder 
mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:

No reason to wait. Face ID is seamless and superior to touch ID.
You won't regret making the upgrade. Don't  waste your time or money on the 
iPhone 11, 5G is the future.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2021, at 06:18, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 The people I have worked with had the biggest learning curve with the Face ID 
since there is no  touch ID.
It isn't that hard, but if your 8 is working fine, you may want to wait until 
we hear more details on what the iPhone 13 has to offer this fall. Rumor has it 
that it may contain both touch ID and Face ID.
But, if you really need to upgrade sooner, you will probably find good deals on 
the 11.
Check with your carrier if you are thinking about the 12 since some carriers 
charge more for 5 g service, even if they do not currently offer it since that 
is part of the iPhone 12.
HTH,

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Mar 10, 2021, at 2:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

No there isn’t. I went from an iPhone 7 and a Galaxy S7, both of which have 
home buttons, to a iPhone 11, which doesn’t have a home button, and it didn’t 
take long at all to pick up. You just swipe up from the bottom of the screen to 
get to the home page or bring up the app switcher. You also use the other 
physical buttons to do things like toggle voiceOver on and off or reset the 
phone.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 3:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thinking of up grading phones

Hi, I am still using an iphone 8, is there much of a learning curve, too using 
a phone without the home key? Am wanting to upgrade.
Kenny
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Alexa and Google question.

[Jenny Bomareto]

Hello all,

Do any of you know how to hook the a gadget and the G gadget to the Internet? 
Because I have two googles there’s already two Alexis hooked on to the Internet 
however I have one more to do a visual person helped me yesterday but we did 
not get a chance to do the third Alexa and the two googles. So any help you 
guys could give would be greatly appreciated.   also one a gadget is named 
echo, one is named computer, and I have to name the one here in there sitting 
on the bar in my kitchen I have to name it Alexa. And then of course I still 
have to make where I say hey Google for the two googles I have here. Thank you 
in advance.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

[Debby]

Hi Arlene,

 

If you are still looking for solutions for this go to problem:

 

http://www.lyft.com

 

Go to “rider” then choose help. In there is the information for lost items 
including phones.

 

Take care and stay safe!

 

Debby 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 2:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

 

If it’s an iphone then there is find my ipHone which she can log in to via the 
web browser on a computer,

 

If it’s an android,

There is a simplar product called (from memory) find my droid,

 

Either tool can let you remotely connect to the device either sounding an alerm,

Sending a message to it or remotely wiping the device so it’s not useable by 
anyone else.

The android find my droid,

I’m not sure of the details these daysbut there must be something on the net 
that your friend can check out.

 

Good luck to her.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2021 7:46 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: question concerning iPhone left in a lyft car with no solution

 

A friend wrote to me concerning accidently leaving her iPhone in a lyft car. 
Her insurance can't get in touch with lyft and the police say they can't do 
anything about it. I don't use this type of transportation so if this has 
happened to anyone else and how you were able to solve this with getting your 
phone returned to you, or if anyone knows what to do and or knows how to get in 
touch with lyft, please let me know and I'll pass the information on to her. I 
gave her the subscribing directions for subscribing to the list, but don't know 
if she'll get accepted and on to the list quick enough where this experience is 
concerned. Thank you for any helpful solutions.

 

Arlene

 

 

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