Re: Paprika - recipe manager app for iOS and Mac

[Scott Howell]

Yes that is a good start and I will let you know once the Mac app is there. 
Don't worry it won't be to long. :)

On Jun 16, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:

> Hi.  thanks for the info.  might start off with the iOS version perhaps.
> 
> 
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
> Mahatma Gandhi
> 
> On 16/06/2012, at 11:32 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Hi Maria,
>> 
>> Yes and no. :) Yes it is generally accessible, but I would say that the next 
>> version will be even better. So you could manage with it today but wait and 
>> I think you will be even more pleased.
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.  do you know if the mac version is accessible?  
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Maria Chapman
>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
>>> Mahatma Gandhi 
>>> 
>>> On 16/06/2012, at 8:48 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> A while back there was a discussion of the Paprika app for the 
>>>> iPhone/iPod, iPad, and there is also a version for the Mac. I worked with 
>>>> the devs to address some accessibility issues with the iOS versions. I am 
>>>> thrilled to report that both apps are fully accessible. If you are looking 
>>>> for a very flexible, fully-featured recipe and meal planning app, and want 
>>>> to have the ability to sync recipes, meal plans, and grocery lists across 
>>>> all devices, then you will want to purchase Paprika.
>>>> I really have to throw my support behind these devs because when I 
>>>> approached them and provided information about VoiceOver etc. Christine 
>>>> (one of the devs) really took it upon herself to learn VoiceOver. We kept 
>>>> in touch and she asked a lot of questions and really was interested in 
>>>> learning more than just how to label buttons etc. To say the support is 
>>>> excellent would be an understatement. I have worked with a number of devs 
>>>> who have done a lot to make their apps accessible and I am sure many of 
>>>> you have as well. However, when a dev really digs in and even starts 
>>>> looking at changing APIs and so forth in order to ensure accessibility 
>>>> says a lot, In fact they are also working hard to make the Mac version of 
>>>> their app just as accessible.
>>>> Here are links to both iOS versions. Yes there are two different versions 
>>>> and considering the layout I can understand why they elected to go with 
>>>> two separate versions.
>>>> 
>>>> Paprika Recipe Manager app for iPhone/iPod, 
>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8
>>>> 
>>>> Paprika Recipe Manager for iPad, 
>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-get/id392408028?mt=8
>>>> 
>>>> If you do purchase either or both apps I would like to hear your thoughts.
>>>> 
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Re: Shortcut for typing a period ?

[Scott Howell]

You have to do the tap in a rhythum. You will have to practice, but it should 
be a tap followed by another tap in quick succession. No more than 1 second 
apart.. Practice and you will get there. Basically you need to tap so VO 
inserts or says space and quickly tap again so it is interpreted correctly. I 
had to learn this myself and sometimes I still manage to mess up. :)

On Jun 16, 2012, at 2:48 PM, AppleGourmet  wrote:

> Sorry but I just can't get it!! Whenever I tap the space bar I get the space! 
>  If I hit the space bar twice I get two spaces inserted. Just can't get the 
> period to work. Is any help possible? Or will this be another lost cause like 
> selecting text!
> any help will be highly appreciated. Many blessings
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Re: Paprika - recipe manager app for iOS and Mac

[Scott Howell]

Sieghard,

Thank you for your comments and I will share them with Christine. I hope that 
anyone who does purchase either or both versions will rate the app and maybe 
write a review in the app store. I really believe that when you take the time 
to thank devs via the app store and mention accessibility you are raising 
awareness. I know it may not seem like much, but I do read reviews of apps 
before I purchase them and I pay attention to what reviewers are saying. You 
can sort through the group that is providing valuable feedback and the group 
that just wants to complain about nothing (in some cases).
And yes devs do read the comments and base decisions on future updates based on 
comments. Well that is if the dev wants to continue selling his/her app. :)
Thanks again Sieghard for the positive feedback.

Scott

On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Sieghard wrote:

> Sieghard

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Re: Editing text in iPhone

[Scott Howell]

ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I would have to disagree with your 
statement concerning the editing functions as being junk. There certainly is 
some learning curve which is true with about anything. I would have to say the 
editing functionality works well and I have used it on several occasions with 
great success. I point this out because I want others to have another opinion 
and understand that they should give it a go before assuming it is junk.
I think the thing that throws many users and especially those used to how 
editing is done in the world of WIndows screen readers the learning curve will 
be a bit more.

On Jun 16, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Rose Combs wrote:

> The edit function and cut and paste on the phone itself is junk, said from 
> someone who much prefers using a keyboard when needing to edit where ctrl v 
> and c work and where deleting works with separate keys so you know exactly if 
> you are going the right direction.  I very much hate editing on the phone 
> itself, if Vokul makes a mistake, in fact, I just leave it there, and if I 
> make a horrible on typing I just delete the whole thing and try again.  I 
> don't do lengthy messages or e-mail on the phone, only mail I get is to send 
> phone numbers to the address connected to the phone because reading e-mail on 
> the phone is not for me at least a pleasant experience.  I have lots of uses 
> for the phone but editing, cutting and pasting are not among them unless I am 
> bored and feel I have nothing else to do. 
>  
> I like the phone and it goes everywhere with me but those functions and the 
> rotors are my least favorite.  Practice in those cases does not make perfect, 
> just frustration. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chuck Dean
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Editing text in iPhone
>  
> Yes, as above, make sure you are going in the right direction.
> 
> When I first got my iPhone I thought the edit function was junk until I 
> realized my mistake.
> Chuck
> 
> On Friday, June 15, 2012 1:49:54 PM UTC-7, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> I often get really confused when I try to edit the text that I've typed. 
> For example, when I want to edit a text message, I swipe down with one 
> finger and VO reads the text character by character. 
> Now, if I want to delete a character, I double tap  the  delete button. 
> So, sometimes the character that VO last spoke gets deleted and at 
> other times the character which was immediately before the character 
> that VO last spoke gets deleted. 
> So, how exactly does this work? 
> Let's say I've made a spelling mistake and have written my name as R A 
> H O U L instead of R A H U L. 
> So, where should I press the delete button to delete the O? 
> 
> Thanks in advance for your assistance. 
> 
> Best, 
> Rahul
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Re: Paprika - recipe manager app for iOS and Mac

[Scott Howell]

Hi Maria,

Yes and no. :) Yes it is generally accessible, but I would say that the next 
version will be even better. So you could manage with it today but wait and I 
think you will be even more pleased.

On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> HI.  do you know if the mac version is accessible?  
> 
> thanks
> 
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
> Mahatma Gandhi
> 
> On 16/06/2012, at 8:48 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> A while back there was a discussion of the Paprika app for the iPhone/iPod, 
>> iPad, and there is also a version for the Mac. I worked with the devs to 
>> address some accessibility issues with the iOS versions. I am thrilled to 
>> report that both apps are fully accessible. If you are looking for a very 
>> flexible, fully-featured recipe and meal planning app, and want to have the 
>> ability to sync recipes, meal plans, and grocery lists across all devices, 
>> then you will want to purchase Paprika.
>> I really have to throw my support behind these devs because when I 
>> approached them and provided information about VoiceOver etc. Christine (one 
>> of the devs) really took it upon herself to learn VoiceOver. We kept in 
>> touch and she asked a lot of questions and really was interested in learning 
>> more than just how to label buttons etc. To say the support is excellent 
>> would be an understatement. I have worked with a number of devs who have 
>> done a lot to make their apps accessible and I am sure many of you have as 
>> well. However, when a dev really digs in and even starts looking at changing 
>> APIs and so forth in order to ensure accessibility says a lot, In fact they 
>> are also working hard to make the Mac version of their app just as 
>> accessible.
>> Here are links to both iOS versions. Yes there are two different versions 
>> and considering the layout I can understand why they elected to go with two 
>> separate versions.
>> 
>> Paprika Recipe Manager app for iPhone/iPod, 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8
>> 
>> Paprika Recipe Manager for iPad, 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-get/id392408028?mt=8
>> 
>> If you do purchase either or both apps I would like to hear your thoughts.
>> 
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Paprika - recipe manager app for iOS and Mac

[Scott Howell]

All,

A while back there was a discussion of the Paprika app for the iPhone/iPod, 
iPad, and there is also a version for the Mac. I worked with the devs to 
address some accessibility issues with the iOS versions. I am thrilled to 
report that both apps are fully accessible. If you are looking for a very 
flexible, fully-featured recipe and meal planning app, and want to have the 
ability to sync recipes, meal plans, and grocery lists across all devices, then 
you will want to purchase Paprika.
I really have to throw my support behind these devs because when I approached 
them and provided information about VoiceOver etc. Christine (one of the devs) 
really took it upon herself to learn VoiceOver. We kept in touch and she asked 
a lot of questions and really was interested in learning more than just how to 
label buttons etc. To say the support is excellent would be an understatement. 
I have worked with a number of devs who have done a lot to make their apps 
accessible and I am sure many of you have as well. However, when a dev really 
digs in and even starts looking at changing APIs and so forth in order to 
ensure accessibility says a lot, In fact they are also working hard to make the 
Mac version of their app just as accessible.
Here are links to both iOS versions. Yes there are two different versions and 
considering the layout I can understand why they elected to go with two 
separate versions.

Paprika Recipe Manager app for iPhone/iPod, 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8

Paprika Recipe Manager for iPad, 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-get/id392408028?mt=8

If you do purchase either or both apps I would like to hear your thoughts.

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Re: WWDC: What's new in iOS 6.0

[Scott Howell]

Ben, if you were expecting news on a new iPHone then you were going to be 
let-down. This is not the conference for new hardware. I would not anticipate 
anything from APple until later this year. I cannot recall APple really talking 
about new iPhones at a WWDC.

On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> I found it quite underwelming to be honest.
> 
> I don't care about maps (Although I understand that some people will)
> Siri is terrible in the UK at the moment anyway and it looks like this
> won't change
> The passport thing won't be adopted widely enough for me to remember to use it
> 
> I know its a developer conference but I really wanted a new device; I
> don't want to replace my 3GS only to find that something new will come
> out in a few months.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
> On 6/11/12, Joseph Lee  wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> Just finished with WWDC 2012 keynote and some exciting news on iOS 6.0 came
>> out:
>> * Facebook integration is official - share photos, post and like about apps
>> and integrates with Notification Center.
>> * Enhanced mail with VIP mail notifications.
>> * Phone enhancement with "do not disturb" mode and new sliders.
>> * Photo upload possible in Safari, plus offline reading mode available.
>> * FaceTime calls are possible with cell networks; phone numbers and Apple
>> ID
>> are unified.
>> * Apple's own Maps app, including local traffic and businesses; includes
>> turn-by-turn navigation and 3D maps.
>> * Passbook - to act as virtual ticket holders.
>> * Siri now includes looking up sports scores, reservations and more, plus
>> more languages are available.
>> These are just samples of over 200 features in iOS6, according to Apple.
>> And
>> you can take advantage of this release in the fall - if you have iPhone 3GS
>> and later, iPod Touch 4th gen and iPad II and III. Thanks.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
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Re: How to go No Mail?

[Scott Howell]

And I could go pull the information from the link and post it for you, but I do 
not have the time right now either. 
So I guess when you find the time you can investigate the link on your own.

On Jun 10, 2012, at 9:20 AM, JANE SHEEHAN wrote:

> I just wish someone would just post them to the list, though.  I don't have
> time to go through the archives to look for things like that right now.
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Re: Is Cobo books accessible and easy to use?

[Scott Howell]

Hi Anne,

One thing I have been meaning to ask is if Kobo works well with Braille 
displays which is my preferred method of reading. I suspect so, but wanted to 
ask in the event there were any issues I need to keep in mind when reading the 
books.

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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

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Grant if you have not dropped the devs a note I would encourage you to do so. 
There must surely be something going on because if taking pictures works well 
then there seems to be little reason the app cannot identify money. Have you 
tried removing and reinstalling the app? I have no idea if this would help, but 
may be worth trying. For me the identification happens very quickly and I have 
used the app with an iPhone 4 and 4S. This is a curious issue.

On Jun 8, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

> Interesting - I wonder why everybody's experiences differ so much?
> There must be some other factor of which we're not aware.
> 
> I literally have never had one scrap of money spoken to me by the
> Looktel Money Recognizer - even though I have had sighted assistance
> to make sure that every conceivable angle of the money is shown. As I
> said, I thought maybe it was my camera, but other pictures seem to
> take fine, so who knows.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Grant
> 
> On 6/8/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>> That is very interesting because the LookTell apps have worked very well for
>> me. The INote app was very disappointing.
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
>>> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
>>> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
>>> treasury dept.
>>> 
>>> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
>>> 
>>> Kimber
>>> 
>>> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
>>>> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
>>>> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
>>>> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
>>>> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>>>> 
>>>> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
>>>> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
>>>> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>>>> 
>>>> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
>>>> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
>>>> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
>>>> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Grant
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Re: Looktel apps do not work accurately for me

[Scott Howell]

That is very interesting because the LookTell apps have worked very well for 
me. The INote app was very disappointing.

On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:

> I haven't had a lot of luck with the looktel money reader either. My
> iPhone is less than a month old so I'm sure it's not the camera. I've
> had more success with eyenote, which I believe is an app from the
> treasury dept.
> 
> As for the other looktel app I don't have it and so can't comment.
> 
> Kimber
> 
> On 6/8/12, Grant Hardy  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've posted in the past about the Looktel money recognizer being
>> unable to read any of the currency I throw at it. As of yet I've
>> never, ever had a bill be spoken. It doesn't matter if I put it on a
>> table, hold it in front of the camera, move it around, expose
>> different parts of the currency, and so on.
>> 
>> The object recognizer also doesn't work particularly accurately and
>> often gives unexpected results. A good example is that I've actually
>> put, well, bills, into the database, and these are always mixed up.
>> 
>> You don't suppose I could have a subtle problem with my camera, do
>> you? We don't notice anything when taking photos, but maybe there's a
>> subtle scratch on the camera or something? Do you have any ideas why
>> the Looktel apps would be behaving so oddly?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Grant
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Re: free macs

[Scott Howell]

As far as I know yes. However, you hold the C key down right after the startup 
chime and hold it until the drive starts to spin. Of course this thread is no 
longer iOS related, so best we stop here. :)
Good luck

On Jun 6, 2012, at 10:28 AM, RDLAW wrote:

> that is an idea. Would I only need to place the UBuntu  disk in the drive the 
> same as I would a standard pc?
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 03:33
> Subject: Re: free macs
> 
> 
> Yeah Ricardo, but man those would make nice boxes to run Ubutu on. :)
> I have an old G5 I am picking up from my parents since they really did not 
> make use of it and there are my plans for it. I thought it would be 
> interesting to see if I could connect iOS devices to it.
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I mean, its free, and you can't really knock free but, you won't be able to 
>> run the latest operating system on there, and you will be using the first 
>> version of Voiceover which was pretty bare bones.  I believe those are Power 
>> PC Macs, not Intel's so, you would only be able to upgrade to Leopard OSX 
>> 10.5 if I'm not mistaken.  Honestly, as a voiceover user, I wouldn't bother. 
>>  The experience with voiceover is really nothing like what you would have 
>> now running Lion 10.7.  And with that antiquated hardware, I'm not sure how 
>> productive you could even be.  I think it would just cheapen the Mac 
>> experience if you've never used a Mac before.  Better off find a refurbished 
>> 2010 or 2011 Mac mini.
>> 
>> JMO.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:11 AM, RDLAW  wrote:
>> 
>>> Someone on freecycle is giving away the following:
>>> 2 Apple Power Macintoshes (no monitors included) Mac OSX-10.4 Tiger 
>>> Operating system on both:
>>> 
>>> First Computer is a Power Macintosh G4/400 with 2 Gigabytes Ram, 40 
>>> Gigabytes boot drive, 30 Gigabytes files drive, Firewire 800PCI card, and 
>>> gigabit ethernet PCI card.
>>> 
>>> Second Computer is a Power Macintosh G4/Dual 500 with 1.75 Gigabytes of 
>>> Ram, 20 Gigabytes boot drive, and 30 Gigabytes files drive.
>>> Is this worth going after?
>>> 
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Re: Accessible App - The Night Sky

[Scott Howell]

I agree and I will likely purchase the pack. Of course I still plan to contact 
the dev and suggest the buttons be properly labeled either way.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

> Hi Scott, as Jan mentions, apparently we also need to download the info pack 
> which makes the features I'd been speaking of available to VO.
> 
> This might be worth mentioning to the devs because, if the label can be 
> visible to VO with the info pack installed, then it should at least be able 
> to be visible to VO without the info pack. Obviously the user wouldn't get 
> the additional info, but at least having the names of bodies available to 
> them would be a really cool / useful feature.
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> Hey Cara,
> 
> I'm thinking I will contact the dev to see about getting the buttons labeled. 
> I did not find a button labeled target, but maybe I was in some weird screen. 
> :) Maybe more accurately some out of this world place. :)
> 
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jan, yes, when the app comes up, you might need to double tap the screen 
>> and you'll then see a button near the top center (portrait mode) which is 
>> labeled 'Target.' Just under the target button you'll see the name of 
>> whatever you're looking at at the time. It's not the kind of app to display 
>> a list of stars etc. It will only show you the one you're pointed directly 
>> at. I assume if you can see, you'd see more info on the screen but VO only 
>> reads the item which is specifically focused on. So this is the one toward 
>> the center of the screen.
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps…
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jan Blüher wrote:
>> 
>> Hallo Cara,
>> 
>> I bought the app. It seems to be quite nice, but I cozldn't get it to tell 
>> me the names of stars and constallations. Did you manage to make the the app 
>> talking?
>> 
>> Thanks and greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> ---
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>> Available on the App Store:
>> http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor
>> ---
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>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Germany
>> 
>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 03.06.2012 um 19:21 schrieb Cara Quinn:
>> 
>>> Hi All;
>>> 
>>> For those of you interested in learning about what's around you in the sky, 
>>> It turns out that The Night Sky is actually usable with VO. This app is on 
>>> sale right now, and I believe it's .99 cents US. I say I believe, because 
>>> the App Store isn't letting me see the price now that I've downloaded it. :)
>>> 
>>> Anyway, this app is augmented reality for the sky. So what this means, for 
>>> those whom might not know, is that you can simply point your phone at the 
>>> sky and it will tell you what you're pointing at; be it a star, 
>>> constellation, planet, satellite etc.;) The app is  not perfect by any 
>>> means, but it does let you see what you're facing and can really be quite 
>>> interesting.
>>> 
>>> I also downloaded the extra info pack for approx $1.50 which gives you 
>>> information on what you're looking at but so far, I cannot figure on how to 
>>> get this to play nicey nice with VO. So there ya go.
>>> 
>>> -Just thought some might be interested… Here's the linkie!…
>>> 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-night-sky/id475772902?mt=8&ls=1
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> Smiles,
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
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Re: free macs

[Scott Howell]

Yeah Ricardo, but man those would make nice boxes to run Ubutu on. :)
I have an old G5 I am picking up from my parents since they really did not make 
use of it and there are my plans for it. I thought it would be interesting to 
see if I could connect iOS devices to it.


On Jun 6, 2012, at 2:15 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I mean, its free, and you can't really knock free but, you won't be able to 
> run the latest operating system on there, and you will be using the first 
> version of Voiceover which was pretty bare bones.  I believe those are Power 
> PC Macs, not Intel's so, you would only be able to upgrade to Leopard OSX 
> 10.5 if I'm not mistaken.  Honestly, as a voiceover user, I wouldn't bother.  
> The experience with voiceover is really nothing like what you would have now 
> running Lion 10.7.  And with that antiquated hardware, I'm not sure how 
> productive you could even be.  I think it would just cheapen the Mac 
> experience if you've never used a Mac before.  Better off find a refurbished 
> 2010 or 2011 Mac mini.
> 
> JMO. 
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:11 AM, RDLAW  wrote:
> 
>> Someone on freecycle is giving away the following:
>> 2 Apple Power Macintoshes (no monitors included) Mac OSX-10.4 Tiger 
>> Operating system on both:
>> 
>> First Computer is a Power Macintosh G4/400 with 2 Gigabytes Ram, 40 
>> Gigabytes boot drive, 30 Gigabytes files drive, Firewire 800PCI card, and 
>> gigabit ethernet PCI card.
>> 
>> Second Computer is a Power Macintosh G4/Dual 500 with 1.75 Gigabytes of Ram, 
>> 20 Gigabytes boot drive, and 30 Gigabytes files drive.
>> Is this worth going after?
>> 
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Re: free macs

[Scott Howell]

I sure would. However, you would want to use these as Linux boxes or if you 
choose to use Tiger or Leopard, understand these OSes are not being supported 
any longer. So, software is not being patched for security issues etc. If 
either meets the specs for Snow Leopard, then you will be fine for a little 
while.

On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:11 AM, RDLAW wrote:

> Someone on freecycle is giving away the following:
> 2 Apple Power Macintoshes (no monitors included) Mac OSX-10.4 Tiger Operating 
> system on both:
> 
> First Computer is a Power Macintosh G4/400 with 2 Gigabytes Ram, 40 Gigabytes 
> boot drive, 30 Gigabytes files drive, Firewire 800PCI card, and gigabit 
> ethernet PCI card.
> 
> Second Computer is a Power Macintosh G4/Dual 500 with 1.75 Gigabytes of Ram, 
> 20 Gigabytes boot drive, and 30 Gigabytes files drive.
> Is this worth going after?
>  
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Re: HOw to get info on stars etc in The Night Sky

[Scott Howell]

Ah, so the app is essentially limited without purchasing the info pack. Maybe 
that extra purchase is worth it if you really can get some extra info.

On Jun 4, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Jan Blüher wrote:

> Hallo Cara and list,
> 
> it only works if you bought the info pack for 1,59€ (1.99$). In the basic 
> version the target button and the label that tells you, where you are looking 
> at, is not there. I just bought the info pack and they appeared.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
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> 
> Am 03.06.2012 um 23:12 schrieb Cara Quinn:
> 
>> Hi again All,
>> 
>> Well I've just figured out how to get info on the star or body that you are 
>> viewing in The Night Sky. It was so simple but not obvious. :)
>> 
>> The object you're looking at is in the center of the screen and is read by 
>> VO when you tap it. Just above this is a button labeled 'Target.' Double 
>> tapping this button brings up a screen with info about the item being 
>> viewed. There is a back button in the top left corner which allows you to go 
>> back to the viewing screen. It's as simple as that! :)
>> 
>> What was confusing me was that there is a caption below the viewed item that 
>> says 'tap for info.' So tapping this actually does nothing but tapping the 
>> target button just above the body being viewed will show the info.
>> 
>> So there ya go!
>> 
>> This is the first accessible augmented reality sky app that I've seen.
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Cara :)
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Re: Message rules

[Scott Howell]

Yes setting up the rules is pretty easy.

On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Kirsten Edmondson wrote:

> Hi Scott, 
> Perhaps slightly off-topic, but is it easy to set up filters etc in Gmail? 
> Reply off list if more appropriate. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3 Jun 2012, at 23:42, Scott Howell  wrote:
> 
>> Danielle,
>> 
>> No you cannot. However, if you have a Gmail account you can setup labels and 
>> filters which will accomplish what you want.
>> 
>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Does anybody know if you can set up message rules on the iPhone? Four
>>> example, sometimes I don't know who my email is from, especially
>>> witthis group,  because it doesn't say vIPHONE in the subject line, so
>>> if it is a name I don't recognise, I just think it's  spam, and
>>> usually end up deleting it. This is quite irritating, especially if
>>> the emails have weird subject lines which seems to have happened quite
>>> a bit recently.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has any ideas, even if it means getting a secondary email
>>> client, please do let me know. I would be very interested in this.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Danielle
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Re: Accessible App - The Night Sky

[Scott Howell]

Hey Cara,

I'm thinking I will contact the dev to see about getting the buttons labeled. I 
did not find a button labeled target, but maybe I was in some weird screen. :) 
Maybe more accurately some out of this world place. :)

On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

> Hi Jan, yes, when the app comes up, you might need to double tap the screen 
> and you'll then see a button near the top center (portrait mode) which is 
> labeled 'Target.' Just under the target button you'll see the name of 
> whatever you're looking at at the time. It's not the kind of app to display a 
> list of stars etc. It will only show you the one you're pointed directly at. 
> I assume if you can see, you'd see more info on the screen but VO only reads 
> the item which is specifically focused on. So this is the one toward the 
> center of the screen.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps…
> 
> Smiles,
> 
> Cara :)
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Jan Blüher wrote:
> 
> Hallo Cara,
> 
> I bought the app. It seems to be quite nice, but I cozldn't get it to tell me 
> the names of stars and constallations. Did you manage to make the the app 
> talking?
> 
> Thanks and greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> ColorVisor - The app to identify colors.
> Available on the App Store:
> http://itunes.com/app/ColorVisor
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
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> 
> 
> 
> Am 03.06.2012 um 19:21 schrieb Cara Quinn:
> 
>> Hi All;
>> 
>> For those of you interested in learning about what's around you in the sky, 
>> It turns out that The Night Sky is actually usable with VO. This app is on 
>> sale right now, and I believe it's .99 cents US. I say I believe, because 
>> the App Store isn't letting me see the price now that I've downloaded it. :)
>> 
>> Anyway, this app is augmented reality for the sky. So what this means, for 
>> those whom might not know, is that you can simply point your phone at the 
>> sky and it will tell you what you're pointing at; be it a star, 
>> constellation, planet, satellite etc.;) The app is  not perfect by any 
>> means, but it does let you see what you're facing and can really be quite 
>> interesting.
>> 
>> I also downloaded the extra info pack for approx $1.50 which gives you 
>> information on what you're looking at but so far, I cannot figure on how to 
>> get this to play nicey nice with VO. So there ya go.
>> 
>> -Just thought some might be interested… Here's the linkie!…
>> 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-night-sky/id475772902?mt=8&ls=1
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Smiles,
>> 
>> Cara :)
>> ---
>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>> 
>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Message rules

[Scott Howell]

Danielle,

No you cannot. However, if you have a Gmail account you can setup labels and 
filters which will accomplish what you want.

On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Does anybody know if you can set up message rules on the iPhone? Four
> example, sometimes I don't know who my email is from, especially
> witthis group,  because it doesn't say vIPHONE in the subject line, so
> if it is a name I don't recognise, I just think it's  spam, and
> usually end up deleting it. This is quite irritating, especially if
> the emails have weird subject lines which seems to have happened quite
> a bit recently.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas, even if it means getting a secondary email
> client, please do let me know. I would be very interested in this.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
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Re: A Time to Wear iPhone Around my Neck

[Scott Howell]

Hey Brett thanks for sharing and you know perhaps we should create a tie that 
has a handy iPhone pocket built-in to the backside of the tie. Now bet that is 
one nobody has come up with. Well now that I mentioned it I should probably go 
patent the idea. :)

On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Brett C. wrote:

> 
> A time to sing, a time to dance, and a time to wear my iPhone around my neck. 
> As incredible as the iPhone is, it seems fragile to me. Dropping and breaking 
> the phone is a concern of mine. I don't want the phone around my neck at all 
> times, but there are instances that I've thought it would be a good idea for 
> convenience and security of the phone. Here are a few examples. 
> Walking a new route:  I like to use the neck holder while using Ariadne and 
> MyWay, along with the Aftershocz headphones. I enjoy having my hand free, and 
> being able to simply touch the phone when I want information. I clip the 
> headphone controller to the cable, and coil the excess line with a twist tie.
> Navigating in a car:  I enjoy playing navigator, but I find it a little 
> annoying to hold the phone the entire drive. When I place the phone on the 
> seat between my legs, I have a way of forgetting i put it there and leave the 
> car without it. I find it a bother to put the phone in and out of my pocket 
> while seated and belted in.
> Security:  I'm not constantly paranoid of getting the phone ripped from my 
> hand, but I have heard stories. With this holder, the phone is much more 
> secure from a spontaneous grab.
> Workouts:  I use my phone with a treadmill and elliptical. When I reach for 
> the phone from the machine's little shelf, I'm often concerned it's going to 
> slip from my sweaty grip and break on the equipment. With my around the neck 
> holder, I can check my time, change music, take calls etc. The holder comes 
> with a rain coat type sleeve. It protects the phone from moisture, and it has 
> a little hole for the headphones.
> Around the house:  In a private environment like my home, it's nice to have 
> my phone with me, while I go through my routines. I can wear comfortable 
> clothing without pockets, and don't have to blindly dash for the phone I left 
> somewhere when it sounds an alert. Surely, I can't be the only guy that has 
> had the phone propped between the head and shoulder while talking and taking 
> a leak at the same time? I've had so many vivid visions of the phone 
> splashing in the toilet bowl.
> This isn't a sales pitch, it means nothing to me whether you want one or not. 
> I just found something that meets some of my desired convenience, and wanted 
> to share in case someone else thinks a little like me. I think the site's 
> description is clear and accurate, so I won't go into that. It is easy to 
> slide the phone in and out of the holder. The one part that I find a little 
> difficult is switching the neck cables. I don't do this often, so it's not a 
> big deal to me.
> 
> http://www.iphone-lanyard.com/Site/iPhone_Holder.html
> 
> Brett
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Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review

[Scott Howell]

Hey Fred I did not, but not sure the list allows for attachments. I'm curious 
now. :)

On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Fred Olver wrote:

> cott, I had attached my grilling cookbook to my previous message, did you get 
> it?
> 
> Fred Olver
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review
> 
> 
> Fred,
> 
> I Believe there is at least one company that makes a fork that will audibly 
> provide the temp. The difference in this case is the IGrill will let you 
> measure the temp remotely and accessibly wich is rather nice. I have not 
> purchased one of these myself, but if you smoke any kind of meat I can see 
> how this device would be very handy and especially if it is really cold 
> outdoors. :)
> And someone was curious if you could use it in an oven and yes you can from 
> what I was told.
> 
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Fred Olver wrote:
> 
>> Gentlemen, There is a facility in San Fransisco which also makes an 
>> accessible grilling thermometer. Can't remember it's name, but will look it 
>> later and get back to you. It does not work with the I-devices, but looks to 
>> be nearly as functional.
>> See attachment.
>> Fred Olver
>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review
>> 
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I would suggest you send your request and concerns about the app to the 
>> company that develops iGrill. I know they are rather pleased to have made 
>> the accessibility changes and may be willing to make a few more tweaks. I 
>> have found in more cases than not developers who are willing to make 
>> corrections for accessibility. I had considered the Igrill as well, but your 
>> review has certainly peaked my interest again. I like to smoke meat as well 
>> and this would be a nice solution and especially when we put turkey on for 
>> smoking around THanks Giving. I might have to send you a private note to get 
>> your thoughts on smokers since I just had to trash my old bullet smoker 
>> which gave up the ghost.
>> Thanks for the great review.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> 
>>> I do a lot of grilling, and more important, slow smoking  of ribs, brisket 
>>> and pork and other great meats.  (It's times like this I feel sorry for the 
>>> vegetarians out there.)  But, one of my biggest problems was getting a meet 
>>> and grill temperature reading during the cooking process.  About a year 
>>> ago, I noticed a product called iGrill by iDevices Inc.  The url is 
>>> http://www.igrillinc.com/ that had a wireless bluetooth digital thermometer 
>>> and iPHone/iPod/IPad application.  I instantly downloaded the free app, to 
>>> see how well it worked with voiceover, and was disappointed. Last week, I 
>>> noticed an update for the app that included a bug fix bullet item reading 
>>> "improved voiceover support".  I downloaded the app and checked it out.  
>>> Things looked very very promising, but I didn't have the hardware.  That 
>>> all changed with a recent UPS delivery.  I'm very pleased with their 
>>> progress, and feel it is a very useable solution with most features 
>>> accessible, and I'm sharing my review here.
>>> 
>>> I opened the box and it came with a base unit, two temperature probes, and 
>>> batteries.  Without reading a thing, I was able to install the batteries, 
>>> and plug in the two probes.  The front of the unit has three touch 
>>> sensitive buttons.  Not my first choice for a blind user, but they are 
>>> dimpled and distinguishable.   At this point I ran the iGrill application 
>>> on the phone and listened to the getting started instructions.  The three 
>>> buttons are power and plus and minus The plus being above the minus and the 
>>> power being to the left of those two. However, other than the power button, 
>>> the device can be controlled entirely from the iOS application, so you 
>>> really don't need to worry about the plus and minus buttons on the unit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As instructed by the online documentation accessible via the application, 
>>> ,I pressed all three buttons to enable the device to pair, and sure enough, 
>>> in Settings, General, Bluetooth, on my iPhone, the i

Re: Is there a solution that lets you wear you IPhone around your neck.

[Scott Howell]

And for women there is even a bra that will allow you to carry your iphone as 
well. Amazing the ways you can carry such a device. Around my neck? Yeah it 
would not be swinging on the end of that rope for sure. :) If the idea is for 
easy access you know Scottevest even makes shirts with inside pockets  and not 
to be left out, for you gents you can stuff yours in your drawers if you know 
what I mean. :)


On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Anne wrote:

> What about checking out a scottevest. It has an inside pocket chest height 
> which will fit the iphone, besides many other pockets. 
> Www.scottevest.com
> 
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 8:53 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:
> 
>> I carry so much junk in my jacket pockets, one more gismo hardly makes a 
>> difference. But that's me, that's most our tribe in fact.
>> 
>> I think that's why I'd like a means of isolating the phone from the tools, 
>> coins, clippers, knives, wallets, passes and stuff I've forgot now.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Not By Sight" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:14 PM
>> Subject: RE: Is there a solution that lets you wear you IPhone around your 
>> neck.
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Annie, I would be worried about hanging something so heavy around my
>> neck. I know that in your hand it doesn't feel so heavy but day after day of
>> just that amount of weight hanging around my neck would worry me over time.
>> 
>> JMO
>> Jay
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Annie Skov Nielsen
>> Sent: June-02-12 6:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Is there a solution that lets you wear you IPhone around your neck.
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Does anybody here on this list know of a hanger for the IPhone, that allows
>> you to wear your IPhone around the neck.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
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Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review

[Scott Howell]

Fred,

I Believe there is at least one company that makes a fork that will audibly 
provide the temp. The difference in this case is the IGrill will let you 
measure the temp remotely and accessibly wich is rather nice. I have not 
purchased one of these myself, but if you smoke any kind of meat I can see how 
this device would be very handy and especially if it is really cold outdoors. :)
And someone was curious if you could use it in an oven and yes you can from 
what I was told.

On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

> Gentlemen, There is a facility in San Fransisco which also makes an 
> accessible grilling thermometer. Can't remember it's name, but will look it 
> later and get back to you. It does not work with the I-devices, but looks to 
> be nearly as functional.
> See attachment.
> Fred Olver
> - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review
> 
> 
> Scott,
> 
> I would suggest you send your request and concerns about the app to the 
> company that develops iGrill. I know they are rather pleased to have made the 
> accessibility changes and may be willing to make a few more tweaks. I have 
> found in more cases than not developers who are willing to make corrections 
> for accessibility. I had considered the Igrill as well, but your review has 
> certainly peaked my interest again. I like to smoke meat as well and this 
> would be a nice solution and especially when we put turkey on for smoking 
> around THanks Giving. I might have to send you a private note to get your 
> thoughts on smokers since I just had to trash my old bullet smoker which gave 
> up the ghost.
> Thanks for the great review.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I do a lot of grilling, and more important, slow smoking  of ribs, brisket 
>> and pork and other great meats.  (It's times like this I feel sorry for the 
>> vegetarians out there.)  But, one of my biggest problems was getting a meet 
>> and grill temperature reading during the cooking process.  About a year ago, 
>> I noticed a product called iGrill by iDevices Inc.  The url is 
>> http://www.igrillinc.com/ that had a wireless bluetooth digital thermometer 
>> and iPHone/iPod/IPad application.  I instantly downloaded the free app, to 
>> see how well it worked with voiceover, and was disappointed. Last week, I 
>> noticed an update for the app that included a bug fix bullet item reading 
>> "improved voiceover support".  I downloaded the app and checked it out.  
>> Things looked very very promising, but I didn't have the hardware.  That all 
>> changed with a recent UPS delivery.  I'm very pleased with their progress, 
>> and feel it is a very useable solution with most features accessible, and 
>> I'm sharing my review here.
>> 
>> I opened the box and it came with a base unit, two temperature probes, and 
>> batteries.  Without reading a thing, I was able to install the batteries, 
>> and plug in the two probes.  The front of the unit has three touch sensitive 
>> buttons.  Not my first choice for a blind user, but they are dimpled and 
>> distinguishable.   At this point I ran the iGrill application on the phone 
>> and listened to the getting started instructions.  The three buttons are 
>> power and plus and minus The plus being above the minus and the power being 
>> to the left of those two.  However, other than the power button, the device 
>> can be controlled entirely from the iOS application, so you really don't 
>> need to worry about the plus and minus buttons on the unit.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As instructed by the online documentation accessible via the application, ,I 
>> pressed all three buttons to enable the device to pair, and sure enough, in 
>> Settings, General, Bluetooth, on my iPhone, the iGrill showed up and could 
>> be paired.
>> .
>> The key to this  product is in the iGrill application, a free download from 
>> the Apple App Store.  In the iGrill app, there are Four major button tabs.  
>> Cooking, Tools, INfo and Settings.
>> 
>> The "cooking" button is where you have access to the remote temperature 
>> probe data.  If the device is off an not paired, this section will read not 
>> connected.  If the iGrill is on, you will see readable data on two probes 
>> with current temperature, user defined label, and alarm label. Flicking 
>> works perfectly and all data seems easily and quickly accessible. You can 
>> rename the two probe labels to anything you w

Re: iGrill (bluetooth thermometer review

[Scott Howell]

Scott,

I would suggest you send your request and concerns about the app to the company 
that develops iGrill. I know they are rather pleased to have made the 
accessibility changes and may be willing to make a few more tweaks. I have 
found in more cases than not developers who are willing to make corrections for 
accessibility. I had considered the Igrill as well, but your review has 
certainly peaked my interest again. I like to smoke meat as well and this would 
be a nice solution and especially when we put turkey on for smoking around 
THanks Giving. I might have to send you a private note to get your thoughts on 
smokers since I just had to trash my old bullet smoker which gave up the ghost.
Thanks for the great review.

Scott

On Jun 2, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Scott Bresnahan wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I do a lot of grilling, and more important, slow smoking  of ribs, brisket 
> and pork and other great meats.  (It's times like this I feel sorry for the 
> vegetarians out there.)  But, one of my biggest problems was getting a meet 
> and grill temperature reading during the cooking process.  About a year ago, 
> I noticed a product called iGrill by iDevices Inc.  The url is 
> http://www.igrillinc.com/ that had a wireless bluetooth digital thermometer 
> and iPHone/iPod/IPad application.  I instantly downloaded the free app, to 
> see how well it worked with voiceover, and was disappointed.  Last week, I 
> noticed an update for the app that included a bug fix bullet item reading 
> "improved voiceover support".  I downloaded the app and checked it out.  
> Things looked very very promising, but I didn't have the hardware.  That all 
> changed with a recent UPS delivery.  I'm very pleased with their progress, 
> and feel it is a very useable solution with most features accessible, and I'm 
> sharing my review here.
> 
> I opened the box and it came with a base unit, two temperature probes, and 
> batteries.  Without reading a thing, I was able to install the batteries, and 
> plug in the two probes.  The front of the unit has three touch sensitive 
> buttons.  Not my first choice for a blind user, but they are dimpled and 
> distinguishable.   At this point I ran the iGrill application on the phone 
> and listened to the getting started instructions.  The three buttons are 
> power and plus and minus The plus being above the minus and the power being 
> to the left of those two.  However, other than the power button, the device 
> can be controlled entirely from the iOS application, so you really don't need 
> to worry about the plus and minus buttons on the unit.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> As instructed by the online documentation accessible via the application, ,I 
> pressed all three buttons to enable the device to pair, and sure enough, in 
> Settings, General, Bluetooth, on my iPhone, the iGrill showed up and could be 
> paired.
> .
> The key to this  product is in the iGrill application, a free download from 
> the Apple App Store.  In the iGrill app, there are Four major button tabs.  
> Cooking, Tools, INfo and Settings.
> 
> The "cooking" button is where you have access to the remote temperature probe 
> data.  If the device is off an not paired, this section will read not 
> connected.  If the iGrill is on, you will see readable data on two probes 
> with current temperature, user defined label, and alarm label.  Flicking 
> works perfectly and all data seems easily and quickly accessible.  You can 
> rename the two probe labels to anything you wish.  Since I smoke, meat, I 
> have one labeled as meat and the other as grill.  Logical examples might be 
> fish or chicken.  The device comes with two probes designed for food.  An 
> ambient  temperature probe for grill surface can be purchased separately.  
> What I was stunned and pleasantly surprised to see, was that there are a slew 
> of predefined temperatures for a range of foods that you can pick from that 
> have the right temperature already defined.  Want that tuna the right temp, 
> pick tuna.  Want a chicken done just right, select chicken.  And, you may add 
> your own items to the list.  Basically, this is a Label with a target 
> temperature.  All totally accessible and properly labeled with voiceover 
> tags.  Now, what's nice for the smokers out there, you can also specify a 
> temperature range.  Smokers generally like to keep their grill temperature 
> between 225 and 250, and for any probe, you can specify a target temperature 
> or a range of temperatures.  The target temp will alarm when the probe hits 
> that temperature.  The range temperature will alarm when the temperature goes 
> above or below that range.  Both the target and range temperatures work great.
> 
> My only complaint on the cooking tab is that for both probes you have the 
> option of facebook and twitter buttons.  In my opinion, a waste of space.  
> Just because you can integrate easily with social media via the iOS API 
> doesn't mean you should.  At the very least, I 

Re: battery issues since upgrading to 5.1.1

[Scott Howell]

Hey Joe,

Well it has been a while now and my battery issues have completely been 
resolved. I have absolutely no clue how or why. I still need to look at my 
wife's phone, but I suspect I know what her issue is and it may be related to 
either an incident she had or a corrupt install. However, the issue must not be 
to bad because she is not after me to do something about it. :)

On Jun 2, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Joe Paton wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know I am late on this one, but was the battery drain cause ever identified?
> 
> I am experiencing a similar drain of the IPhone 4g, but my wife does not on 
> her IPhone 3.  although our phones are not totally identical, mostly they 
> are.  the apps that we use over the WI FI are the same, but the sta nav apps 
> are turned off.
> 
> Just curious.
> 
> Joe
> At 00:01 15/05/2012, you wrote:
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> Yes this is even with the screen locked. I have not tracked it down to any 
>> specific application, but of course the variables are so numerous it may be 
>> difficult to track it down. Thus may require rebuilding from scratch, but 
>> hopefully not necessary.
>> 
>> On May 14, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > Are you saying this 3% per hour drop happens even with the screen locked? 
>> > That is definitely not happening here with a 4S that has the latest update 
>> > installed.
>> >
>> > Mary
>> >
>> > Mary Otten
>> > motte...@gmail.com
>> >
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Re: IOS development

[Scott Howell]

All of this chatter about programming reminds me that I have been wanting to 
ask a question. I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent, but the little 
programming I tried to learn became a bit confusing in trying to remember all 
of the syntax etc. THis was a really long time ago when I tried to learn 
Pascal. In any case I would love to learn objective C. So, what is a good book 
that can help take the uninformed to informed. :) In other words how does one 
get started and especially in understanding classes etc. I'm sure I could run 
about the web and look at all sorts of sample code, but I believe you need to 
have a foundation to build on. I'm probably more interested in development from 
the angle of trying to help developers make their apps accessible. I do not see 
myself developing apps for sale. :) My full-time job keeps me fed, housed, and 
able to afford apps. :)
Any advice would be appreciated. I realize this is not a developers list but my 
interest is in furthering the goal of accessibility for iOS and Mac apps.

On May 31, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Jan Blüher wrote:

> Hallo Igor,
> 
> I just took a look at the Apple documentation from the point of view of a 
> beginner. I have to admit that most of the introduction articles do also rely 
> on Interface Builder. Sample code is everywhere, but not arranged that 
> straight forward. You will have to search a bit for.
> 
> At least, I can recommend an introduction to Objective-C called
> The Objective-C Programming Language
> and where you can find sample code. If you are used to C++, you should have 
> no problems with it. Indeed, is is possible to write apps in C++, however, 
> you will need Objective-C for the Cocoa Touch Framework anyway.
> 
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> 
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> Am 31.05.2012 um 16:40 schrieb igor_kaplan:
> 
>> Hi Jan,
>> 
>>  Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am the windows and unix C++ developer
>> for 20 years and now would like to try IOS development.
>>  I understand, XCode is only tool for developing and building
>> applications for IOS, my concern is the interface builder as you
>> mentioned. I got several books about IOS development, however all of
>> them are using the interface builder as a tool to build the user
>> interface.
>> 
>>  I was looking for the information, how to create the user interface
>> in the code itself, without using the interface builder.
>>  So, that development Apple page, which you refer below will give the
>> documentations, how to build user interface without the Interface
>> Builder? I'll definitely check that!
>> 
>>  Many thanks for your help.
>> 
>> All the best.
>> 
>>   Igor.
>> 
>> Jan Blüher wrote:
>>> Hallo Igor,
>>> 
>>> Xcode is the only tool you can use for iOS development. there is no way 
>>> around. However, Xcode is quite accessible and blind people can use it, as 
>>> I do.
>>> 
>>> The thing that is not accessible is the so-called Interface Builder, with 
>>> which you can click and drag your user interface. But this is no problem. 
>>> Everything can be done programmatically. There is a lot of documentation on 
>>> Apple's developer portal at http://developer.apple.com . It is very 
>>> covering and accessible. You have to register as an developer (for free) to 
>>> get access.
>>> 
>>> Do you have some experiences in programming?
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
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Re: Otterbox warranty experience

[Scott Howell]

I also had the earphone cover tear on the Defender case I had for my former 3GS 
and they replaced it without any problem.
They are a very good company and do stand behind their products.

On May 30, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:

> Hi, Raoul,
> 
> I purchased my Otter Box defender pink case from the AT&T store a day after I 
> got my phone in October, 4S launch day.
> 
> The flap that closes over the headphone jack began to tear, and I called the 
> company the second week of March.  By then, the piece was on by a thread.  
> They asked me a few questions, then took my information to send me the new 
> silicone part.
> 
> In about a week I received the new part.  By then the piece had come off, and 
> I was keeping track of it like a hawk!
> 
> So far so good with the new, same color pink, case, and I love it!  The 
> company was terrific, which will certainly bring me back for more business.
> 
> Marcy
> 
> On May 30, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> 
> Hey all. I would just like to tell about my recent Otterbox warranty 
> experience.
> 
> I have an iPhone 4S with the midnight blue Otterbox Defender case. Recently 
> the rubber flap on the bottom has not been closing and so the charging port 
> is exposed when I'm not charging it. Also, if I squeeze the top portion of 
> the phone near the sensor, it makes a sort of snapping sound, like the inner 
> case parts are not fully sealed. I called Otterbox at 855-688-7269 and was on 
> hole for maybe 1 minute. They are in Colorado and so are 2 hours behind my 
> time zone. I explained to the rep what my issue was and he asked a few 
> questions, like which specific Otterbox case it is, and when I purchased it 
> and from whom. After answering those few questions and confirming my contact 
> information, he processed the order and I'll have a replacement case within a 
> week or 2. I don't even have to return the old current case.
> 
> How cool is that? Otterbox is awesome!
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Re: Blindside the Game

[Scott Howell]

Hey Raul, ok that was the bummer for me. The game was pretty short. I wonder if 
they plan other episodes they would charge for or the will give those to people 
who purchase the game and not sure what the plans are going forward.
Either way the game is another demonstration of the capabilities of the iPhone 
and iPad.

On May 25, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

> I've completed the game and it was pretty fun. Kind of short for what it is, 
> but still fun. And yes, you need practice to get things down right.
> 
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> On 5/25/2012 6:54 PM, Alex Stone wrote:
>> I bought this earlier today, and I must admit I’m struggling. I guess I
>> just need practice.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jan Blüher
>> *Sent:* 23 May 2012 17:19
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Blindside the Game
>> 
>> Hallo,
>> 
>> right, it is definitly worth the money. You just have to like monsters ;-).
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> Am 23.05.2012 um 17:51 schrieb Raul A. Gallegos:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I bought this game a couple hours ago and have been playing it. I would
>> say it is definitely worth the $2.99 plus tax.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On May 23, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Søren Jensen > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>>There is not a free version, but I'll tell you that it's really
>>worth the money if you have the required device.
>> 
>>I've just spent an our on the game and it's totally amazing.
>> 
>>Best regards:
>> 
>>Søren Jensen
>> 
>>Mail & MSN:
>> 
>>s...@coolfortheblind.dk 
>> 
>>Website:
>> 
>>http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>>Den 23/05/2012 kl. 16.52 skrev Ed Worrell:
>> 
>>HEllo, I don't believe that there is a free version.
>> 
>>Ed
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Re: Blindside the Game

[Scott Howell]

Unfortunately I found the game to easy or I was to lucky. Once I got across the 
road and tracks things were simple. THe part that was a bummer is the ending. 
I'm not going to tell you about the ending, but you will likely agree it was a 
bummer.

On May 25, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Alex Stone wrote:

> I bought this earlier today, and I must admit I’m struggling. I guess I just 
> need practice.
> Cheers
> Alex
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jan Blüher
> Sent: 23 May 2012 17:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blindside the Game
>  
> Hallo,
>  
> right, it is definitly worth the money. You just have to like monsters ;-).
>  
> Jan
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>  
>  
> Am 23.05.2012 um 17:51 schrieb Raul A. Gallegos:
> 
> 
> I bought this game a couple hours ago and have been playing it. I would say 
> it is definitely worth the $2.99 plus tax.
> 
> 
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> On May 23, 2012, at 11:08 AM, Søren Jensen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi.
> There is not a free version, but I'll tell you that it's really worth the 
> money if you have the required device.
> I've just spent an our on the game and it's totally amazing.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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> HEllo, I don't believe that there is a free version.
>  
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Re: Review of BrailleTouch in Access World

[Scott Howell]

THe only other option is to convence Apple that this could be another keyboard 
option which then it would have to be integrated into the OS. There would have 
to be a fair amount of interest before it would be considered because it would 
likely not be a trivial change.

On May 25, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

> Eileen, yes, all apps run in a sandbox meaning they're pretty much
> isolated from the rest of the phone except in cases where they use
> very specific APIs. For example, apps are sometimes allowed, at a
> user's request, to open files from other apps. Usually, this is
> actually a good thing, because it means that you can pretty much try
> whatever you want on iOS without worrying about system instability.
> But I agree, in cases like this, it's in fact a detriment rather than
> a benefit.
> 
> I imagine what you'd have to do is type the text into this app, then
> copy it to the clipboard, and then paste it elsewhere. Or, the
> developers might allow you to compose Email or text messages with the
> text pre-filled. This is basically the extent of what the app would be
> able to do and I don't think Apple will budge on this: it's just a
> part of their operating system.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Grant
> 
> On 5/25/12, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> Hello List,
>> 
>> In the May issue of Access World there is an extensive review of the
>> Braille
>> Touch app that had been the buzz on this list a while back. I believe all
>> braille users on this list should read and then think about submitting a
>> recommendation to the Apple Accessibility folks. From what I understood,
>> Apple has restricted this app from fully integrating with inputting text.
>> So, I am not sure how anyone of us would be able to use this as text input
>> and benefit from it. Please correct me if I interpreted this wrong. Happy
>> reading.
>> 
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Re: Breaking Out of Mail Jail

[Scott Howell]

Sandy, not sure what you mean at all. ONce you return to the home screen Mail 
is effectively in the background and is no longer on the screen. Yes it remains 
in the app switcher, but any app you launch will remain there unless you remove 
it.

On May 24, 2012, at 5:28 AM, Sandy Finley wrote:

> I don’t know if I can explain this. I can easily read my e-mail messages. But 
> getting out of mail is something else again. I know I can use the home key to 
> get to the home screen but it seems that the mail is still open. It’s as if 
> it is in the way. Does anybody understand what I mean?
>  
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Re: What is the purpose of the Notification Center?

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Sandy,

The weather is only one aspect of the notification center. THe notification 
center can contain alerts from other apps such as text messages, Mail, apps 
that track the delivery of packages, and so much more. The notification center 
is anything but superfluous . Prior to the notification center you may have 
gotten an alert from an appointment on your calendar, a text message etc. and 
pretty much if you missed it you would have to go look at each app for any 
possible alerts. Notification center contains all that information in one 
place. 
You will get other points of view on this, but I think you will find 
notification center to be very valuable. Btw, I moved the weather app off the 
home screen, so honestly having this information quickly available is welcome.


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> As a brand new iPhone user the Notification Center seems superfluous. There 
> is an icon on my home screen if I want weather and so far that’s all I see 
> that it does. And I don’t see anything about it in the excellent NBP “Getting 
> Started” book.  Thanks.
>  
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Re: help with Ibooks?

[Scott Howell]

Fred, if I recall correctly once it is downloaded you should have gotten a 
popup that would let you select to open it in iBooks. I tried this only once, 
so am doing this from memory. If that was not the case for you I will grab 
another book and try again. I'll specifically look for the same book you 
downloaded.

On May 22, 2012, at 9:58 AM, fred olver wrote:

> This past weekend I downloaded a free app called ibooks search.  Within it 
> were several catagories listed, one of them to project goutenberg which as 
> some of you will recall is a repository of free books. Anyway, I attempted to 
> download a book, The Great Gatsbee and couldn't figure out what to do after 
> that. I guess that's the long way of saying I could use some help with Ibooks 
> or some direction where I might find some information on how to use it.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Fred Olver
> http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com  For some of us it's a way of life and 
> for some of us it just makes life easier.
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Re: Tascam IM2 Stereo Microphone

[Scott Howell]

There are dock extension cables available that would probably provide the 
extension you are looking for.

On May 21, 2012, at 12:59 AM, goshawk on horseback wrote:

> as far as I know, there isn't an extension cable for this mic, as it has been 
> designed mainly for portability, which I will say, is the one thing I really 
> don't like about this mic, as it just sticks out of the doc connector, which 
> means that it picks up a lot of handling noise. I would say that it could 
> also very easily break the doc connector, if it is knocked.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:35 AM
> Subject: RE: Tascam IM2 Stereo Microphone
> 
> I just read the specs on the microphone on the Tascam web site and nothing 
> was mentioned about an extension cable.
> I've heard of cables designed to connect an iPad to a speaker dock, but I 
> have no idea where you'd find it or whether it would work as an extension 
> cable for that microphone.
>  
> Richard
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Julia Cosgrove (Mrs)
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tascam IM2 Stereo Microphone
> 
> Hello All
> 
> I have just purchased the above microphone but rather understood that there 
> was an extension lead which would make the mic more flexible.  On looking 
> into this, all I could find today were other types of leads appertaining to 
> the audio/visual and charging characteristics of the iPhone.
> 
> Perhaps someone can correct me on this?
> Best wishes.
> 
> Julia from the UK. 
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Re: A T & T Micro cell information wanted

[Scott Howell]

Actually there was a time you could get one for free if the coverage was that 
bad.

On May 20, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

> Hi Ricardo;
> 
> As long as people want to pay for something their will always be
> people out there who will charge them for it.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
> 
> On May 20, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> I know this has nothing to do with nothing but, what a rip off.  Why should 
>> you pay for that?  Its because of their bad coverage that you need the thing 
>> in the first place.  They should be paying you to use it.  Your easing 
>> congestion on their network.  To be honest, I just would have went to a 
>> carrier that provided coverage in my home.  They would have no choice but to 
>> let me out of my contract.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On May 20, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I didn't realize they were that much. I think the offer was some time last 
>>> year. I just know we needed one because me and my mom's iPhones have almost 
>>> no service here at home without one.
>>> HTH,
>>> Jeffrey
>>> On May 20, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Jeff,
 
   Any idea why they were offering them for free?  How long ago was your 
 offer?
 
 I called for more information after receiving your message and found they 
 are $199.00.   And no annual or monthly fee.  Also they let me connect up 
 to 15 devices.
 
 I hope to go talk to a store representative this week.
 
 ERic Caron
 On May 20, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
 
> I don't remember and the reason for this is because we got one here when 
> they had them for free. And they had an E-Mail sent out with this offer. 
> This was a while back.
> I do have to say that the AT&T MicroCell works very well.
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On May 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Steve Robertson wrote:
> 
>> How much does it cost?
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> Original message:
>>> We have one. No additional cost to the plan you pay for. Just plug it 
>>> in to the router, follow the instructions it gives which are available 
>>> on the AT&T website in PDF BTW, and you should be good to go :)
>>> HTH,
>>> Jeffrey
>>> On May 20, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
>> 
 Hello List,
>> 
 I'm wondering if anyone out there is using a Micro cell.  My 
 understanding is this hardware hooks to your wireless network and 
 boosts your iPhone cell service.
 I'm wondering if this is a one time cost for hard ware or has a 
 monthly fee.  Also wondering how well it has worked for anyone using 
 it.
 Any thoughts or experience on using this hardware, and also purchase 
 and set up would be appreciated.
 I'm living in a area with intermittent cell service so would like to 
 improve reliability.
>> 
 I've been looking at different options over the past year or so but 
 keep finding major  problems with each alternative.  Your experiences 
 and suggestions appreciated.
>> 
>> 
 eric Caron
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Re: A T & T Micro cell information wanted

[Scott Howell]

Hmmm, I thought they were $150.

On May 20, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
>   Any idea why they were offering them for free?  How long ago was your 
> offer?
> 
> I called for more information after receiving your message and found they are 
> $199.00.   And no annual or monthly fee.  Also they let me connect up to 15 
> devices. 
> 
> I hope to go talk to a store representative this week.  
> 
> ERic Caron 
> On May 20, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
> 
>> I don't remember and the reason for this is because we got one here when 
>> they had them for free. And they had an E-Mail sent out with this offer. 
>> This was a while back.
>> I do have to say that the AT&T MicroCell works very well.
>> HTH,
>> Jeffrey
>> On May 20, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Steve Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> How much does it cost?
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> Original message:
 We have one. No additional cost to the plan you pay for. Just plug it in 
 to the router, follow the instructions it gives which are available on the 
 AT&T website in PDF BTW, and you should be good to go :)
 HTH,
 Jeffrey
 On May 20, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>> 
> Hello List,
>>> 
> I'm wondering if anyone out there is using a Micro cell.  My 
> understanding is this hardware hooks to your wireless network and boosts 
> your iPhone cell service.
>I'm wondering if this is a one time cost for hard ware or has a 
> monthly fee.  Also wondering how well it has worked for anyone using it.
>Any thoughts or experience on using this hardware, and also purchase 
> and set up would be appreciated.
> I'm living in a area with intermittent cell service so would like to 
> improve reliability.
>>> 
> I've been looking at different options over the past year or so but keep 
> finding major  problems with each alternative.  Your experiences and 
> suggestions appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
> eric Caron
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Re: Recipe App

[Scott Howell]

I highly recommend Paprika. In fact if you purchase now you will benefit from 
some incredible work being done on the iPhone, iPad, and Mac versions of this 
incredible app. The developers of Paprika are absolutely incredible and I 
sincerely mean that.
The current versions are pretty accessible and you will find them overall very 
good, but again even better is yet to come and that is all I can tell you for 
now. :)

On May 20, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

> Hi Ed,
> Here are a couple portions of messages from the archives.  I personally have 
> not purchased this app, but I happen to be browsing the archives when I found 
> your message.
>  
>  
>  Paprika Recipe Manager was designed to make it easy to download and
> import recipes from other sources, but I thought it would also work well for 
> Keith's
> purposes of simply inputting and keeping track of his own recipes.  Glad to 
> hear
> this worked well for you, especially since the $4.99 price is on the higher 
> side
> of most apps.   For anyone else who is interested, here's the App Store link 
> and
> the link to the User Guide support pages:
> • Paprika Recipe manager for iPhone ($4.99)
> by Hindsight Labs, LLC
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590...
> • Paprika User Guide support pages,
> iPhone edition: http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/iphone/
> There's a separate version of the app for the iPad, with corresponding links: 
> • Paprika
> Recipe manager for iPad ($4.99) by Hindsight Labs, LLC
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-get/id392408028...
> • Paprika User Guide support pages, iPad edition: 
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/ipad/
> I think the iPhone app version is probably simpler to navigate, based on 
> reading
> the User Guides.  This app has a lot of features, so it is worth reading the 
> User
> Guides to find out about them. HTH.  Cheers,
> Esther
> I forgot to include another quirky bit for the Paprika
> Recipe app that I meant to describe.  You can search for recipes by Name, 
> Ingredients,
> or Source.  However, there's an unlabeled button in the search field that you 
> have
> to set first, if you want to search by ingredients, for example.  So you 
> would double
> tap in the search field, flick right to "button" and double tap, then get the 
> menu
> to search recipes by name, ingredient, or source.  Double tap to select 
> "ingredient",
> for example.  Now you can enter an ingredient into the search field and have 
> the
> app filter for recipes that contain the ingredient.  Basically, if you want 
> to search
> by other than name of recipe, you need to flick to that unlabeled button in 
> the search
> field first, double tap it, and then change the default search criterion. >> 
> HTH.
> Cheers,
> >> Esther
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Edward Przybylek
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Recipe App
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Can anyone recommend a reasonably accessible app for entering and organizing 
> recipes on the iPhone?  Thanks.
>  
> Take care,
> Ed Przybylek
>  
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Re: Status Item

[Scott Howell]

iPads require 10 watts and the USB port on a computer only delivers five watts. 
However, apparently it is possible for the iPad to charge, but very slowly. 
This of course is not the most effective or recommended way to charge the iPad.

On May 19, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

> Hi Kerry,
> 
> I'm pretty sure an iPad can't charge off a computer, or if it does, it 
> happens very slowly. It requires more power than an iPHone, which is why this 
> doesn't work well.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> On May 19, 2012, at 12:02 PM, K. F. Ifill wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> I just bought a new Ipad and I updated and charged it last night. I plugged 
>> it in to my laptop and it says in the status item that the ipad is not 
>> charging. Is this normal or should I be panicking?
>> 
>> Thanks Kerry
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Re: no wifi connection

[Scott Howell]

SOunds like you have something configured incorrectly. If you like, write me 
off list and I might be able to help you. SOrry I have not been following this 
thread extensively, but I do have an SMC (business class model); however, may 
be able to help you. This really is not the place to go into extensive 
troubleshooting, so feel free to write.
scottn3...@gmail.com

On May 19, 2012, at 2:38 AM, RDLAW wrote:

> I went out and purchased a router to use with this smcd3gnv gateway 
> modem/router  I got from comcast. Here's the new fun. the router is not 
> getting an IP from the gateway though my laptop and destop are.
> - Original Message - From: "Dean Adams" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 02:49
> Subject: Re: no wifi connection
> 
> 
> Hi RDLW,
> Try entering the ip address subnet mask router ip address and the dns setting 
> manually so for example if you router is using the ip address range of 
> 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254 set your iphone to an ip address that no other 
> device is using if all devices are getting there Ip Address's via dhcp you 
> should be able to go into your router and there will be a section where you 
> can check what address are being assigned so if your router is assigning 
> address's as above give your Iphone an Ip address of 192.168.1.15 subnet mask 
> of 255.255.255.0 router ip 192.168.1.1 and Dns is the same as the routers 
> address but I use the Google Dns servers which are 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 all 
> these setting are manual ones give it a go and let me know how you get on. 
> And what model and brand is your router.
> Regards Dean
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
> breezepa...@gmail.com
> phone: 0243206031
> Mobile: 0428133758
> Skype : deanadams9
> 
> On 17/05/2012, at 10:30 PM, RDLAW wrote:
> 
>> Now I'm confused. There were 2 tabs manual and automatic. All this time 
>> manual was checked. I selected automatic and I was able to go from web page 
>> to web page in safari but in the app store it still claims it cannot connect 
>> to iTunes.
>> - Original Message - From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 03:07
>> Subject: Re: no wifi connection
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes that would be the way I would do it. I'm still pretty sure its a
>>> router issue, but if you wanted to rule the phone out that is what you
>>> should do.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ben.
>>> 
>>> On 5/17/12, RDLAW  wrote:
 I wil try the google suggestion. When you speak of a clean install are you
 suggesting that I choose "start as new phone".
 - Original Message -
 From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 06:37
 Subject: Re: no wifi connection
 
 
> Hi,
> 
> The iPhone 4 antenna problem only effected the phone antenna; wireless
> apparently was unaffected.
> Your case or speedDots won't be blocking the reception which means
> something more interestings going on here. At the end of the day, if
> you're convinced its the phone, the only way to confirm is to do a
> clean restore - E.G. not from a backup and see if wifi works.
> Have you tried googling router model iphone 3gs where router model
> would be replaced with the model of your router? That should bring up
> people with the same problem if its a router issue.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 
> On 5/16/12, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> depends on the model of your phone. the iphone 4 had the weird antenna
>> issue
>> (a design flaw) and having a rubber boot around the phone resolved the
>> issue. not sure about the 4S though. I have a 3GS here and have no
>> trouble
>> connecting into my wireless router or any other. I am not sure where the
>> antenna is on the 3GS but it works very well for 3 year old technology.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On May 15, 2012, at 11:03 PM, RDLAW wrote:
>> 
>>> Today I took the router down to wep 128 and still could not get in. My
>>> laptop has no problem connecting and going on line. I discovered today
>>> that the router is set for "b, g, & n". I finally found it in the
>>> gateway's web interface.
>>> Where is the embedded antenna suppose to be on the phone? Is it at all
>>> possible that the speed dots overlay could be blocking it?Or the case
>>> I'm
>>> using?
>>> - Original Message - From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 04:23
>>> Subject: Re: no wifi connection
>>> 
>>> 
 There are multiple reasons why open wireless networks might have done
 that.
 Until you can actually confirm by yourself that its accepting 11G
 connections this is what I'm guessing is the problem.
 Of course, you could try resetting the phone which from memory solved
 Marks issue, but I'm still putting my money on a router problem.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 5/15

Re: battery issues since upgrading to 5.1.1

[Scott Howell]

Hi Mary,

Yes this is even with the screen locked. I have not tracked it down to any 
specific application, but of course the variables are so numerous it may be 
difficult to track it down. Thus may require rebuilding from scratch, but 
hopefully not necessary.

On May 14, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> 
> Are you saying this 3% per hour drop happens even with the screen locked? 
> That is definitely not happening here with a 4S that has the latest update 
> installed.
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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battery issues since upgrading to 5.1.1

[Scott Howell]

All,

Just curious if anyone has noticed their battery dropping more quickly since 
upgrading to 5.1.1. My wife who is not using VO and I have both noticed that on 
average we are seeing a drop of about 3 percent per hour. We restored her phone 
last night to see if this would correct the problem, but it has not. In fact I 
also noticed that with her phone when powered off and not connected to a 
charger, the phone turns itself back on and this is consistent. I will be 
trying a few things to see if we can mitigate  the problem, but it is curious.

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Re: Status bar using a Braille display

[Scott Howell]

ANd you can also use chord 1, 2, and 3.

On May 13, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Øyvind Lode wrote:

> Pressing Command B or Space with 1,2 (the back command) did the trick 
> .
> 
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> Subject: Status bar using a Braille display
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I can go to the status bar by pressing Command S or Space with 2,3,4.
> But how do I move out of the status bar when done?
> 
> Currently I need to touch the phone to get out of the status bar.
> 
> I'm using a Brailliant BI 40.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: Calling All Chess Players For Help

[Scott Howell]

HIARCS is not and as far as I can determine will ever be accessible. I tried 
working with the developer on/off for over a year and I just got the usual "I'm 
going to work on that, but". Which in the end was pretty much telling me "I'm 
not going to do it."
So, if you want to try contacting him Mark to see if he would still consider 
making it accessible, good luck. This was one of the first chess apps I 
purchased and I keep  it around as a reminder like with Documents To Go as 
examples of where some deves will blow so much smoke you get anal emphysema.


On May 10, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

> I don't know about that one.
> Shredder chess and chess-wise, are both accessible.
> They both have a free version.
> 
> Later,
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch)
> 
> On May 10, 2012, at 5:16 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> A while back I downloaded HiArcs Chess.  
>> 
>> For whatever reason, I cannot seem to make heads or tails of how to get
>> started with a new game.  
>> 
>> Is this game still considered to be VoiceOver accessible?  
>> 
>> The only thing I can seem to do is to land on a text edit field whick, when
>> attempting to access, will not even bring up the virtual keyboard for text
>> entry.
>> 
>> Any tips on how to start and play a new game will be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: Apple blew it.

[Scott Howell]

I'm not so sure such a feature would be possible. VoiceOver is not bolted on it 
is a core component of the OS. Although a nice idea, just not practical. 
Unfortunately we hav have no idea how many people have written to Apple 
informing them of the issue. So, if only a few people are having the problem as 
compared to the entire user population, they will prioritize accordingly. You 
have to understand that in the scheme of things it really comes down to 
resources and priorities balanced against those resources. I can very much 
appreciate the issue of not being able to use your Braille display. I was very 
much in that situation until iOS 5.0 came out and I had my display for nearly a 
year.

On May 8, 2012, at 2:31 PM, paras shah wrote:

> a couple weeks ago, I sent a sujjestion to apple saying that they
> should have a voice over spicific update system. Meaning, if a bug
> gets fixed they can push it out and it would not affect the jeneral
> public. The more people email apple about this feature the better.
> 
> On 5/8/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> That isn't acceptable.  Lots of peole have braille devices that worked fine
>> until 5.1 so many thousands of dollars worth of equipment is not usable
>> until Apple deams accessibility to be a priority.
>> They broke it, they need to fix it.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 8, 2012, at 10:40 AM, paras shah  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys, you have to understand that this was a verry miner update. I
>>> am sure it will be fixed in 6.0
>>> 
>>> On 5/8/12, Richard Turner  wrote:
 Apple did not fix the issue with the HIMS braille devices in IOS 5.1.1.
 They also did not fix the bug with setting an all-day appointment.
 Please write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know how unacceptable
 this
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Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out

[Scott Howell]

Danielle,

WHen swiping through something, is that something within a specific app? I am 
using a 4S and I am not encountering this issue. There could be an app causing 
the problem as well. Interesting issue.

On May 7, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Danielle McCullough wrote:

> No, it is a bug, it happens to me all the time. It will especially happen if 
> you are swiping through something very quickly. It's like it goes in to 
> overload.
> 
> Danielle
> - Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
> 
> 
> This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For 
> example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you 
> tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes 
> something does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that 
> only seems to be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to 
> "factory" settings.
> 
> On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote:
> 
>> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to
>> ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either
>> restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for
>> Voiceover to come back.
>> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major
>> bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again,
>> who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix.
>> 
>> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced
>> that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone
>> thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I
>> experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time.
>> 
>> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Daniel Miller
>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
>> 
>> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of James Mannion
>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
>> 
>> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be
>> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility.
>> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people
>> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem
>> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is
>> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to
>> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9
>> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them.
>> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was
>> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is
>> not written anywhere.
>> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something.
>> 
>> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea  wrote:
>>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the
>>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote:
>>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you
>>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the
>>>> calendar still.
>>>> 
>>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking
>>>> up issue, either. We can only hope!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725
>>>> Skype: sseric57
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been
>>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone
>>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item
>>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell.
>>>> 
>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote:
>&g

Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out

[Scott Howell]

This is not an issue I have encountered. Have you determined a pattern? For 
example, have you found this issue occurs when using a certain app? Have you 
tried (yes I know it's painful) reinstalling from scratch? Sometimes something 
does become corrupted or some software conflict has occurred that only seems to 
be resolved when starting from a complete restore back to "factory" settings.

On May 7, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Cristobal wrote:

> The speech locking up where Voiceover will just go silent for sixty to
> ninety seconds at a time for no reason or solution other than either
> restarting the phone or waiting out the sixty or ninety seconds for
> Voiceover to come back.
> For all the great accessibility Apple's done with the phone, this is a major
> bug one would figure would be addressed by now in some fashion. Then again,
> who knows, maybe it's just not that easy to fix. 
> 
> I recently got an iPad 2 and for the first week or so, I hadn't experienced
> that issue and started getting all jazzed that maybe it was just an iPhone
> thing, but of course, reality had to step in and and yesterday, I
> experienced the Voiceover going silent bug twice in about an hour's time.
> 
> Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Daniel Miller
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 2:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out
> 
> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of James Mannion
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
> 
> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be
> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility.
> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people
> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem
> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is
> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to
> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9
> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them.
> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was
> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is
> not written anywhere.
> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something.
> 
> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea  wrote:
>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the 
>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks.
>> 
>> Veronica
>> 
>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote:
>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you 
>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the 
>>> calendar still.
>>> 
>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking 
>>> up issue, either. We can only hope!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725
>>> Skype: sseric57
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been 
>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone 
>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item 
>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell.
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to 
>>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt 
>>>> error
>>> every time
>>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be 
>>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list 
>>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per 
>>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Jenifer and all,
>>>> 
>>

Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out

[Scott Howell]

Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been addressed, but I 
am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone app would launch when I 
unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item not addressed in the release 
notes. I guess only time will tell.

On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote:

> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to see
> addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt error every time
> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be
> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list of fixes
> that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per say for any
> accessibility improvements/fixes.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out
> 
> Hi Jenifer and all,
> 
> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the update
> doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will be included.
> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the past where
> there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the update What's New
> summary.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote:
> 
>> Nothing accessibility.  A few bugs that were addressed in photo stream,
> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has to do
> with accessibility.  I'm updating now though just because.
>> Jenifer Gilley
>> email
>> claudas...@gmail.com
>> MSN: 
>> claudas...@cox.net
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Cristobal
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM
>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out
>> 
>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads for those
> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that didn't
> prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash it the first time
> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I don't
> know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps others can dig up
> the information.
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Re: Digit-Eyes update in the App Store

[Scott Howell]

Hi Nancy,

I'm not sure how interesting this is to the list; however, I wil post this much 
for the record. I just launched Digit-Eyes in a totally dark room and the flash 
did activate. I did not realize this would occur. I suspect the situation I was 
dealing with may have just been at the level in which the flash is not 
activated. So, I will try a few tests to see at what level of lighting does the 
flash activate.
There may even be an instance where I created a shadow, so I'm not sure. I will 
say again that Digit-Eyes is performing very nicely indeed. I'm sure the 
improved camera of the 4 and 4S as well as having the flash does help.

On May 5, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Nancy M wrote:

> Hi Scott, that is an interesting point.
> 
> We have some automatic detection logic where the software determines when it 
> thinks there is a problem and turns the flash on (provided, of course, that 
> it is on a device with a flash), but we don't give an option for the user of 
> the software to make that determination and to override the logic in the 
> program.
> 
> I guess this brings up a couple of issues:
> a)   have you had scans fail for insufficient light on a device where there 
> is a flash?
> b)  can you tell us a bit more about the experience and how the software 
> could have handled it better?
> 
> I'm not positive this is a topic of interest to everyone on the board; if you 
> think it is not, I'm the person reading support this weekend, so you can send 
> commentary to supp...@digit-eyes.com or me personally (nmiracle at the same 
> address)
> 
> I'd love to hear more about this!
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, May 5, 2012 3:21:29 PM UTC-5, Scott Howell wrote:
> I have to say that I am very impressed with DigitEyes now. I just installed 
> the update and I certainly was one who had issues with some of the earlier 
> versions. I can now with confidence recommend this app. In fact I find it 
> nearly as fast as Red Laser and the information returned is great. THe only 
> thing I would add is the ability to toggle the flash which does help when 
> lighting conditions are not optimal. 
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 3:23 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote: 
> 
> > I know I'm even ordering the washable labels to label my clothes and I even 
> > created my own QR codes from qrstuff.com and it worked beautifully. 
> > On May 5, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Eric Caron  wrote: 
> > 
> >> Hi listers, 
> >> 
> >> I'm a recent new user of Digit-Eyes.  I noticed last night that 
> >> there was a update in the app Store.  I tried it out this morning and was 
> >> very pleased with the results.  I can now leave the app and return to it 
> >> as often as needed and each time the scan button is working correctly and 
> >> ready to go.  In the earlier release I had to often quit the app in the 
> >> App Switcher to get the scan button to work again. 
> >> This app is rapidly becoming one of my most used appps.  I'm very 
> >> impressed with the quick response to technical and individual needs. 
> >> 
> >> This is the app that among other things lets you scan bar codes to hear 
> >> what a product is, and also print your own labels to mark items with 
> >> recorded or text information. 
> >> 
> >> I noticed there is a new podcast about Digit-Eyes at Applevis.com. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I would recommend updating this App. 
> >> 
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Re: Digit-Eyes update in the App Store

[Scott Howell]

I have to say that I am very impressed with DigitEyes now. I just installed the 
update and I certainly was one who had issues with some of the earlier 
versions. I can now with confidence recommend this app. In fact I find it 
nearly as fast as Red Laser and the information returned is great. THe only 
thing I would add is the ability to toggle the flash which does help when 
lighting conditions are not optimal.

On May 5, 2012, at 3:23 PM, VaShaun Jones wrote:

> I know I'm even ordering the washable labels to label my clothes and I even 
> created my own QR codes from qrstuff.com and it worked beautifully.
> On May 5, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I'm a recent new user of Digit-Eyes.  I noticed last night that there 
>> was a update in the app Store.  I tried it out this morning and was very 
>> pleased with the results.  I can now leave the app and return to it as often 
>> as needed and each time the scan button is working correctly and ready to 
>> go.  In the earlier release I had to often quit the app in the App Switcher 
>> to get the scan button to work again.
>>  This app is rapidly becoming one of my most used appps.  I'm very 
>> impressed with the quick response to technical and individual needs.
>> 
>> This is the app that among other things lets you scan bar codes to hear what 
>> a product is, and also print your own labels to mark items with recorded or 
>> text information.
>> 
>> I noticed there is a new podcast about Digit-Eyes at Applevis.com.
>> 
>> 
>> I would recommend updating this App.
>> 
>> eRic Caron 
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Re: elusive OCR App

[Scott Howell]

David,

I concur and this is why I have not bothered with any of the color ID apps for 
the iPhone. There are likely instances where the iPhone's camera may perform 
sufficiently, but ingeneral lighting is always going to be an issue and one 
even the iPhone cannot overcome, yet. :)

On May 4, 2012, at 1:56 AM, David Chittenden wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> The problem with colour recogniser apps is not the camera. The problem is the 
> inconsistent lighting. For sighted people, colours look different based on 
> how much light there is. This is a concept which is very difficult for blind 
> people to comprehend. The way specialised colour identifiers work is by 
> housing the light next to the lens of the camera. One places the identifier 
> directly on the colour item. Because the device is tuned to the specific 
> light used in the device, a person always receives a constant result.
> 
> In the real world, the darker the ambient light, the darker the colour - and 
> this is the case across the board, for all colours. The only way to 
> constantly get perfect results is to go with one of the expensive, specially 
> built colour identifiers. It is impossible with devices like the iPhone. The 
> light is not mounted around the lens. The light is close to the lens, so if 
> you place the iPhone against the item, you block all the light and the colour 
> becomes black. Sorry folks, but this is the way it is, and whining about it 
> will not change the laws of physics - ever!
> 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 03/05/2012, at 9:57, alex wallis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> remember another thing with iPhone OCR apps is they are limited by the 
>> camera that apple decides to put in the iPhone, hence the mixed results with 
>> colour recogniser apps.
>> Remember, also with KNFB reader the phone had to be sent away to be 
>> specially modified, I think it needed some sort of flash filters fitting to 
>> the camera, not really sure.
>> What I am trying to say, is that even with knfb, you had to go to a lot of 
>> trouble to get it to work with the phone.
>> A phone which, as other people have said on list is now disappearing, just 
>> like nokia and symbian in general.
>> I mean, would any iPhone users seriously go back to symbian and nokia, just 
>> to get a good OCR app?
>> I really doubt it.
>> Besides which, talks is barely keeping up with new handsets and developers 
>> don't care about the oppinions of users at all, by developers, I mean nuance 
>> as they don't really support the team who actually work on talks.
>> the last few versions have just been about adding support for handsets, not 
>> really adding any new features or even accessibility for apps.
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Re: Square Card Reader

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The problem I gather is that when you plug the device in you loose speech 
because it connects to the earphone port. Using Braille however would probably 
not pose a problem. I do not have one so cannot test it out.

On Apr 27, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

> Anyone out there using the Square Card Reader app and device to take credit
> card payments? 
> 
> The app itself looks fairly accessible. I haven't received my free card
> reader yet, but wanted to know how this app plays out in the real world. 
> 
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Re: Can anyone recommend a blue tooth or usb folding keyboard for an iPhone 4S

[Scott Howell]

Hi AMy,

No problem and sorry for the silly question about the power switch. I realize 
when I asked the question what my mind got stuck on was that the switch had 
actually two on positions. :) Now why I had gotten that idea in my mind I have 
no clue, but obviously on and off are two positions. Although it sounds like a 
nice keyboard, i probably would find typing really tricky since I really need 
pretty much standard keys. :) I actually tried one of the folding Verbatim 
keyboards and found it to be a little to large when folded, but worse the 
number keys were entirely to small and not where they belong. :)
Thanks for the reply.

On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:41 AM, Amy Billman wrote:

> Hi Scott.
> I apologize for the delay in responding to you.
> No, the keyboard doesn’t fold.
> It’s a mini keyboard about the size and thickness of the iPhone.
> We’ve had customers tell us that they use their thumbs, while others do not.
> I think that one depends on how a person prefers to type on a smaller 
> keyboard like this one.
>  
> The two position power switch is for turning the keyboard on to use it, or 
> off when not in use to conserve battery.
> The other advantage of course, is that being able to turn it off, will mean 
> that you can throw it in your backpack or whatever, and you’re not going to 
> be accidentally pushing keys. People seem to like the off switch because they 
> can tell if it’s truly turned off as opposed to something like the Apple 
> Bluetooth keyboard, which is an awesome keyboard, but you turn that off by 
> holding in the button and hoping it works. J
>  
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>  
> Take care.
>  
>  
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Howell
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a blue tooth or usb folding keyboard for an 
> iPhone 4S
>  
> Amy,
>  
> THe one thing I was not clear about is if the keyboard is one of those little 
> things you have to use your thumbs to type on or if it is a more or less 
> regular keyboard you can use all fingers to type on. ALso the information 
> indicated the keyboard had a two position power switch and I was curious what 
> that is about. I was considering this keyboard, but these questions came to 
> mind. Also, if it folds is that the size referenced in the description? THe 
> keyboard is about the size and thickness of the phone when folded?
>  
> THanks,
>  
> On Apr 13, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Amy Billman wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello.
> Some folks in this thread recommended the 66 key rii mini Bluetooth keyboard 
> which my company sells.
> It’s not the same thing as seeing it for real, but we’ve written a manual 
> which may help give you some idea about what the keyboard looks like.
> You can view it and a short description on our web site at the following link:
> http://shop.speeddots.com/shop_other.html
>  
> In addition, if there’s any other questions I can answer for you to help one 
> way or the other in your decision, feel free to contact me on or off list.
>  
>  
>  
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can anyone recommend a blue tooth or usb folding keyboard for an 
> iPhone 4S
>  
> Hi, 
> I’m wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a good blue tooth or usb 
> wireless keyboard that can be used with an iPhone 4S. 
> Looking for something that is portable and is sold in a store so I can have a 
> look at it. 
> Thanks. 
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Re: batteries in bt keyboard

[Scott Howell]

Melissa,

If you orient the keyboard so the power button is on the right side the battery 
compartment is on the left side.
There is a screw-on cap that once you remove it just note the orientation of 
the batteries. I believe the batteries go into the keyboard positive end first. 
THe positive end is the end with the bump.

On Apr 25, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Melissa Tucker wrote:

> could someone shoot me an email explaining how the batteries go in the apple 
> bt keyboard?  I'm having one of those days where I do things and can't get 
> them to work properly.  thanks.
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Re: Era Jawbone headset

[Scott Howell]

Yes, those pieces are what holds it in your ear. There should be a short cable 
that connects to the charger. I'm not sure how to explain attaching everything, 
but if you have someone who can help get the loop back on it will be easier to 
wear. :)

On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Patti Johnson wrote:

> Okay, it looked like it came with several pieces, in the lid of the box, in 
> one side to the box.  I found a curvy thing that I suppose goes over your ea. 
>  It looks like to me a lot of this stuff has to be attached and I made the 
> mistake of taking the one rubbery thing off the little ear piece and there is 
> no way that I can get it back on.
> I think I also see that it has a small interesting looking thing to put the 
> ear piece in, but I don't see a wire to hook it up to charge it with.
> Should it have come with one, I'm assuming so.
> Unfortunately I don't have the best strength with my hands so getting all 
> these tiny pieces to fit where they are supposed to go will be interesting.  
> Thanks,
> Patti
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Howell
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Era Jawbone headset
> 
> Well someone who has this earphone will no doubt chime-in. First the thing 
> that is an earpiece is likely the earpiece. The Era likely has a loop on the 
> earpiece that you tuck inside the crease of your ear flap. Yes that thing 
> that sticks out of the side of your head and has several creases in it. Yes, 
> you actually stuff the earpiece in your ear and when that loop is placed 
> properly in the flappy ear thing on your head it will stay very nicely. Yes, 
> even if you were to toss your head about like one of those headbangers going 
> metal thrashing mad.
> The earpiece likely came with a couple of different loop sizes to fit 
> different flappy ears. So, find the one that fits the flap and get flappy 
> happy.
> Now the other thing that looks like a battery is really the wall charger. You 
> plug a very short cable into that and then the earpiece. This cable is not 
> very flappy in fact and is incredibly short. Well ok, I have the Jawbone Icon 
> and the cable was about three inches. I would recommend plugging the cable 
> into the earpiece before connecting to the ac adapter. Btw, I imagine your ac 
> adapter has the foldable prongs.
> Maybe that will help until someone smarter than I can shed more light on the 
> subject.
> 
> On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Patti Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Okay, smarter heads need to prevail here, grin.
>> I just got my Era Jawbone headset and have no clue what to do with it, there 
>> are three parts; one looks like a hear piece but with nothing to latch it 
>> onto; second looks like a big battery but with a USB thing on it and the 
>> third, a thing that I suppose you wrap the head set in when not in use?
>> Maybe not though.
>> If some one can just straighten me out a bit I may be able to figure out the 
>> rest of this.
>> Thanks,
>> Patti
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Re: lost my presets on Tune In Radio

[Scott Howell]

I upgraded recently and did not loose my presets. I do have an account, but not 
sure this has any baring on the issue.

On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:

> Hello.  I updated Tune In Radio Pro along with my other updates.  When I 
> opened the app today, I found out that I no longer had any presets.  Did 
> anybody else notice this?  Also, since I lost my presets, I tried to find a 
> way to search for specific stations so I could add them again, but I couldn't 
> find a search box anywhere.  I know I could do this before the update.  
> Please don't tell me this is no longer possible.  That would be the easiest 
> way to find the stations so I can add them back into my presets.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: Era Jawbone headset

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Well someone who has this earphone will no doubt chime-in. First the thing that 
is an earpiece is likely the earpiece. The Era likely has a loop on the 
earpiece that you tuck inside the crease of your ear flap. Yes that thing that 
sticks out of the side of your head and has several creases in it. Yes, you 
actually stuff the earpiece in your ear and when that loop is placed properly 
in the flappy ear thing on your head it will stay very nicely. Yes, even if you 
were to toss your head about like one of those headbangers going metal 
thrashing mad.
The earpiece likely came with a couple of different loop sizes to fit different 
flappy ears. So, find the one that fits the flap and get flappy happy.
Now the other thing that looks like a battery is really the wall charger. You 
plug a very short cable into that and then the earpiece. This cable is not very 
flappy in fact and is incredibly short. Well ok, I have the Jawbone Icon and 
the cable was about three inches. I would recommend plugging the cable into the 
earpiece before connecting to the ac adapter. Btw, I imagine your ac adapter 
has the foldable prongs.
Maybe that will help until someone smarter than I can shed more light on the 
subject.

On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Patti Johnson wrote:

> Okay, smarter heads need to prevail here, grin.
> I just got my Era Jawbone headset and have no clue what to do with it, there 
> are three parts; one looks like a hear piece but with nothing to latch it 
> onto; second looks like a big battery but with a USB thing on it and the 
> third, a thing that I suppose you wrap the head set in when not in use?
> Maybe not though.
> If some one can just straighten me out a bit I may be able to figure out the 
> rest of this.
> Thanks,
> Patti
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Backspacing Problem

[Scott Howell]

Well that would be the $64,000 question and for which I have no answer. For me 
it was generally fixed by banging the escape key  a few times. I have to admit 
it was pretty weird and I thought at first it was something I was doing wrong. 
So far the only keyboard I have really liked is the APple keyboard. I wish 
APple would make one that folds. :)

On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> Ok good, I feel glad someone else has experienced this. I tried reseting 
> VoiceOver, turning off and on bluetooth, forgetting and re-pairing the 
> device, all that. Only a reset would fix it. Nasty! I wonder what it all 
> means.
> 
> - Austin
> 
> On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Austin,
>> 
>> Funny you mention this because I had tried one of the Verbatim keyboards and 
>> there was a key I believe the first in the top row that would cause a 
>> similar problem on an iPHone 4S. THe problem was for me intermittent . I 
>> ended up returning the keyboard not for that reason, but because I could not 
>> get used to the number keys which were about half the size of all the letter 
>> keys and not in the same location. I think Verbatim has a nice product, but 
>> there are some things they could do to improve it.
>> So, back to your question. Yes I have encountered this, but not consistently.
>> I suspect it is a key that is mapped in some odd way that is freaking out 
>> either VO or the OS.
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a very strange problem. I purchased the New Trent iPad case with 
>>> keyboard. I set it up as expected, paired the keyboard etc. Every small 
>>> keyboard has a different layout. Next to the slash key it has a key which 
>>> VoiceOver's keyboard help identifies as "Control Character". Don't confuse 
>>> this with the control key.
>>> 
>>> When I hit it, everything goes nuts. By that I mean that when I go into any 
>>> textfield, it will act like I hold down the Delete key repeatedly - erasing 
>>> anything in the field and continuing to back up, causing the little sound 
>>> which occurs when at the beginning of the field. It will just keep going 
>>> and going and going for thousands of times. And to make it weirder, I 
>>> turned off the keyboard and disabled bluetooth and the problem persisted. I 
>>> had to reset the iPad to stop it.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this? What does this "control character" really 
>>> do? I'll have to have a sighted person look at the label to see. BTW this 
>>> happens with iOS 5.1 on an iPad 2. I guess I'll go back to the Apple 
>>> keyboard! 
>>> 
>>> - AUstin
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Backspacing Problem

[Scott Howell]

Austin,

Funny you mention this because I had tried one of the Verbatim keyboards and 
there was a key I believe the first in the top row that would cause a similar 
problem on an iPHone 4S. THe problem was for me intermittent . I ended up 
returning the keyboard not for that reason, but because I could not get used to 
the number keys which were about half the size of all the letter keys and not 
in the same location. I think Verbatim has a nice product, but there are some 
things they could do to improve it.
So, back to your question. Yes I have encountered this, but not consistently.
I suspect it is a key that is mapped in some odd way that is freaking out 
either VO or the OS.

On Apr 19, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> I have a very strange problem. I purchased the New Trent iPad case with 
> keyboard. I set it up as expected, paired the keyboard etc. Every small 
> keyboard has a different layout. Next to the slash key it has a key which 
> VoiceOver's keyboard help identifies as "Control Character". Don't confuse 
> this with the control key.
> 
> When I hit it, everything goes nuts. By that I mean that when I go into any 
> textfield, it will act like I hold down the Delete key repeatedly - erasing 
> anything in the field and continuing to back up, causing the little sound 
> which occurs when at the beginning of the field. It will just keep going and 
> going and going for thousands of times. And to make it weirder, I turned off 
> the keyboard and disabled bluetooth and the problem persisted. I had to reset 
> the iPad to stop it.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this? What does this "control character" really 
> do? I'll have to have a sighted person look at the label to see. BTW this 
> happens with iOS 5.1 on an iPad 2. I guess I'll go back to the Apple 
> keyboard! 
> 
> - AUstin
> 
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