Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Raul A. Gallegos 
Hi, this only applies to the virtual on screen keyboard. There is no 
need to dictate while using a physical keyboard, so there is no dictate 
button. At least, I think that's what you are asking.


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On 4/1/2013 1:06 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

Is this true as well on the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard?
- Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?



Immediately to the left of the space bar.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"
 wrote:


is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be
using that function quite
frequently.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If
you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger
sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm
going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves
more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't
need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the
responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to
be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when
using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love
the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.

--
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Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
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On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
 But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
Thanks. :)


 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
<mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
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Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread David Chittenden 
No, just the onscreen keyboard. On my mac, dictation activates when I hold the 
fn key for more than two seconds. I wonder if there is an iOS equivalent. I 
don't use a QWERTY keyboard with my iPhone. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

On 02/04/2013, at 7:06, "Alan Paganelli"  wrote:

> Is this true as well on the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard?
> - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
> 
> 
>> Immediately to the left of the space bar.
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
>>> function quite
>>> frequently.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ray T. Mahorney
>>> WA4WGA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>>> 
>>> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If
>>> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger
>>> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm
>>> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves
>>> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't
>>> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the
>>> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to
>>> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when
>>> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love
>>> the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty,
>>> Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
>>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>>> 
>>> On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
>>>> When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
>>>> was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
>>>> told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
>>>> But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
>>>> telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
>>>> comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
>>>> repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
>>>> Thanks. :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>>> . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>>> . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
>>>> . My home page:
>>>> . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>>> 
>>>> Mark BurningHawk
>>>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>>> Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Alan Paganelli 

Is this true as well on the Amazon Basics Bluetooth keyboard?
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?



Immediately to the left of the space bar.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney" 
 wrote:


is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using 
that function quite

frequently.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If
you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger
sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm
going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves
more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't
need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the
responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to
be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when
using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love
the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.

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Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
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On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
 But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
Thanks. :)


 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
 . My home page:
 . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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RE: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Ray T. Mahorney 
well we'll see what happens I just ordered the standard overlay and I should 
have the phone late
this week or early next.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 17:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

A split tap is just an alternative to a double tap. When you find a 
button with one finger, like the dictate button, just tap the screen 
somewhere else with another finger while leaving your first finger on 
the screen. You could do this with a finger from your other hand or 
another finger from the same hand or just use the double tap with the 
same finger anywhere on the screen if you don't like the split tap.

On 04/01/2013 12:03 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
> if my experience with the 3 gs is anything to go on then the CP is going to 
> make it a bit
> interesting I understood that using the dictation function involved a so 
> called split tap?  Split
> what where? how?
>
>
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:59
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>
> Hi there. All joking aside, it seems like you have such a low expectation of 
> how to use the
iPhone,
> or that using the iPhone is very difficult. If you can double tap one button 
> with one finger, and
> you can do a two finger double tap, then you can use dictation. If this is an 
> acrobatic type of
> gesture then that is up to you to decide. Please know that I mean no offense. 
> I do not know if you
> have any sort of dexterity problems which would make certain gestures very 
> difficult to perform.
> However most things with the iPhone are very easy to do. I also realize of 
> course that what I
might
> term as an easy gesture might be difficult for someone else. For example, I 
> find it kind of
> difficult to perform a four finger tap on the upper part of the screen or a 
> four finger tap on the
> lower part of the screen to move to the first or last element respectively. I 
> forget what this
> gesture was to do this type of command in the past, but I do remember it 
> being a lot easier for
me.
> There are some people who have no problems doing this for finger gesture 
> though, so that is why I
> say that some gestures might be easy for some and not for others.
>
> Take care.
>
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
> wrote:
>
>> and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?
>>
>>
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>>
>> Immediately to the left of the space bar.
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
>>> function quite
>>> frequently.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ray T. Mahorney
>>> WA4WGA
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>>>
>>> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If
>>> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger
>>> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm
>>> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves
>>> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't
>>> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the
>>> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to
>>> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when
>>> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love
>>> the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty,
>>> Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
>>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>

Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Raul A. Gallegos 
Hi there. A split Is nothing more than finding the place you want with one 
finger and then tapping one time with another finger. This is sort of like when 
you want to keep your place without losing it on the screen. You can do this 
with one or two hands. However once you find a button, instead of doing a split 
tap you can do a double tap with one finger. The 3GS was the first phone that I 
had with the iPhone and I have nothing but positive experiences with it. I went 
into using the iPhone kicking and screaming, but then realized after about a 
week or two that it was really not all bad. If you do not know what some of 
these gestures are called or what they do, I highly recommend you get an app 
called VoiceOver Tutorial. It is by looktel, the people who make the money 
reader app. It is very easy to use and walks you through how to do some of the 
basic gestures. I have even provided the link to the app below. I hope this 
will help you.


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-voiceover-tutorial/id598788231?mt=8

On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:03 PM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:

> if my experience with the 3 gs is anything to go on then the CP is going to 
> make it a bit
> interesting I understood that using the dictation function involved a so 
> called split tap?  Split
> what where? how?
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:59
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
> 
> Hi there. All joking aside, it seems like you have such a low expectation of 
> how to use the iPhone,
> or that using the iPhone is very difficult. If you can double tap one button 
> with one finger, and
> you can do a two finger double tap, then you can use dictation. If this is an 
> acrobatic type of
> gesture then that is up to you to decide. Please know that I mean no offense. 
> I do not know if you
> have any sort of dexterity problems which would make certain gestures very 
> difficult to perform.
> However most things with the iPhone are very easy to do. I also realize of 
> course that what I might
> term as an easy gesture might be difficult for someone else. For example, I 
> find it kind of
> difficult to perform a four finger tap on the upper part of the screen or a 
> four finger tap on the
> lower part of the screen to move to the first or last element respectively. I 
> forget what this
> gesture was to do this type of command in the past, but I do remember it 
> being a lot easier for me.
> There are some people who have no problems doing this for finger gesture 
> though, so that is why I
> say that some gestures might be easy for some and not for others.
> 
> Take care. 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
> wrote:
> 
>> and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?
>> 
>> 
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>> 
>> Immediately to the left of the space bar.
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
>>> function quite
>>> frequently.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ray T. Mahorney
>>> WA4WGA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>>> 
>>> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
>>> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
>>> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
>>> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
>>> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
>>> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
>>> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
>>> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
>>> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
>>> the dictate button on all keyb

Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
A split tap is just an alternative to a double tap. When you find a 
button with one finger, like the dictate button, just tap the screen 
somewhere else with another finger while leaving your first finger on 
the screen. You could do this with a finger from your other hand or 
another finger from the same hand or just use the double tap with the 
same finger anywhere on the screen if you don't like the split tap.


On 04/01/2013 12:03 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

if my experience with the 3 gs is anything to go on then the CP is going to 
make it a bit
interesting I understood that using the dictation function involved a so called 
split tap?  Split
what where? how?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi there. All joking aside, it seems like you have such a low expectation of 
how to use the iPhone,
or that using the iPhone is very difficult. If you can double tap one button 
with one finger, and
you can do a two finger double tap, then you can use dictation. If this is an 
acrobatic type of
gesture then that is up to you to decide. Please know that I mean no offense. I 
do not know if you
have any sort of dexterity problems which would make certain gestures very 
difficult to perform.
However most things with the iPhone are very easy to do. I also realize of 
course that what I might
term as an easy gesture might be difficult for someone else. For example, I 
find it kind of
difficult to perform a four finger tap on the upper part of the screen or a 
four finger tap on the
lower part of the screen to move to the first or last element respectively. I 
forget what this
gesture was to do this type of command in the past, but I do remember it being 
a lot easier for me.
There are some people who have no problems doing this for finger gesture 
though, so that is why I
say that some gestures might be easy for some and not for others.

Take care.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:


and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Immediately to the left of the space bar.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:


is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
function quite
frequently.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If
you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger
sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm
going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves
more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't
need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the
responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to
be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when
using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love
the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.

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On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
Thanks. :)


. Mark BurningHawk Baxter
. AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
. MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
. My home page:
. http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I'm not sure what you're talking about. When you're in an edit field, 
the virtual keyboard appears at the bottom of the screen. Right above 
the home key is the space button and just to the left of that is the 
dictate button. Just double tap anywhere on the screen once you find the 
dictate button. There's no acrobatics involved at all.


On 04/01/2013 11:54 AM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Immediately to the left of the space bar.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:


is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
function quite
frequently.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If
you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger
sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm
going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves
more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't
need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the
responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to
be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when
using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love
the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty,
Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
  But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
Thanks. :)


  . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
  . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
  . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
  . My home page:
  . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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RE: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Ray T. Mahorney 
if my experience with the 3 gs is anything to go on then the CP is going to 
make it a bit
interesting I understood that using the dictation function involved a so called 
split tap?  Split
what where? how?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi there. All joking aside, it seems like you have such a low expectation of 
how to use the iPhone,
or that using the iPhone is very difficult. If you can double tap one button 
with one finger, and
you can do a two finger double tap, then you can use dictation. If this is an 
acrobatic type of
gesture then that is up to you to decide. Please know that I mean no offense. I 
do not know if you
have any sort of dexterity problems which would make certain gestures very 
difficult to perform.
However most things with the iPhone are very easy to do. I also realize of 
course that what I might
term as an easy gesture might be difficult for someone else. For example, I 
find it kind of
difficult to perform a four finger tap on the upper part of the screen or a 
four finger tap on the
lower part of the screen to move to the first or last element respectively. I 
forget what this
gesture was to do this type of command in the past, but I do remember it being 
a lot easier for me.
There are some people who have no problems doing this for finger gesture 
though, so that is why I
say that some gestures might be easy for some and not for others.

Take care. 

On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:

> and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
> 
> Immediately to the left of the space bar.
> 
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
> wrote:
> 
>> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
>> function quite
>> frequently.
>> 
>> 
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>> 
>> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
>> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
>> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
>> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
>> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
>> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
>> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
>> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
>> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
>> the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty, 
>> Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>> 
>> On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
>>> When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
>>> was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
>>> told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
>>> But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
>>> telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
>>> comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
>>> repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
>>> Thanks. :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>> . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>> . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
>>> . My home page:
>>> . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>> 
>>> Mark BurningHawk
>>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>> Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Raul A. Gallegos 
Hi there. All joking aside, it seems like you have such a low expectation of 
how to use the iPhone, or that using the iPhone is very difficult. If you can 
double tap one button with one finger, and you can do a two finger double tap, 
then you can use dictation. If this is an acrobatic type of gesture then that 
is up to you to decide. Please know that I mean no offense. I do not know if 
you have any sort of dexterity problems which would make certain gestures very 
difficult to perform. However most things with the iPhone are very easy to do. 
I also realize of course that what I might term as an easy gesture might be 
difficult for someone else. For example, I find it kind of difficult to perform 
a four finger tap on the upper part of the screen or a four finger tap on the 
lower part of the screen to move to the first or last element respectively. I 
forget what this gesture was to do this type of command in the past, but I do 
remember it being a lot easier for me. There are some people who have no 
problems doing this for finger gesture though, so that is why I say that some 
gestures might be easy for some and not for others.

Take care. 

On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:54 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:

> and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
> 
> Immediately to the left of the space bar.
> 
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
> wrote:
> 
>> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
>> function quite
>> frequently.
>> 
>> 
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
>> 
>> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
>> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
>> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
>> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
>> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
>> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
>> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
>> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
>> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
>> the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty, 
>> Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>> 
>> On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
>>> When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
>>> was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
>>> told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
>>> But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
>>> telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
>>> comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
>>> repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
>>> Thanks. :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>> . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>> . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
>>> . My home page:
>>> . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>> 
>>> Mark BurningHawk
>>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>> Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>>> 
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RE: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Ray T. Mahorney 
and that one requires one of those acrobatic gestures?


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 16:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Immediately to the left of the space bar.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:

> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
> function quite
> frequently.
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
> 
> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
> the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty, 
> Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
> 
> On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
>> When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
>> was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
>> told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
>>  But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
>> telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
>> comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
>> repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
>> Thanks. :)
>> 
>> 
>>  . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>  . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>  . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
>>  . My home page:
>>  . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>> 
>> Mark BurningHawk
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Raul A. Gallegos 
Immediately to the left of the space bar.

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Ray T. Mahorney"  
wrote:

> is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
> function quite
> frequently.
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?
> 
> Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
> you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
> sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
> going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
> more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
> need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
> responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
> be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
> using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
> the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Soft kitty, Warm kitty, Little ball of fur. Happy kitty, Sleepy kitty, 
> Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper
> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
> 
> On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
>> When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
>> was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
>> told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
>>  But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
>> telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
>> comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
>> repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
>> Thanks. :)
>> 
>> 
>>  . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>>  . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>>  . MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com <mailto:burninghawk1...@hotmail.com>
>>  . My home page:
>>  . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>> 
>> Mark BurningHawk
>> Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>> Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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RE: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Ray T. Mahorney 
is the dictate button in a fixed location as I will I suspect be using that 
function quite
frequently.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 14:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri as seen on TV?

Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
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On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:
> When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
> was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
> told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
>   But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
> telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
> comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
> repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
> Thanks. :)
>
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Re: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-04-01 Thread Raul A. Gallegos 
Hi, if Voice Over is running you will get the behavior you mentioned. If 
you want Siri to behave the way it does everywhere else, in the larger 
sighted world, then you have to turn off VoiceOver. In fact, if I'm 
going to be interacting with Siri for any length of time which involves 
more than 2 questions or things to do, I turn off VoiceOver. I don't 
need her repeating what I asked, and then doing it. Plus I like the 
responses sounding and feeling more like they way there were designed to 
be, interactive. Personally I don't care for the way Siri works when 
using it with VoiceOver, but that's just my opinion. I do however, love 
the dictate button on all keyboards, and that's not the same thing.


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On 3/31/2013 10:08 AM, Mark BurningHawk wrote:

When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather
was like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she
told me, which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.
  But, is there a way that I can just have her answer me, without
telling me what I said?  LIke the commercials on TV, where she just
comes back with the snappy response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she
repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out this part?
Thanks. :)


  • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
  • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
  • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com 
  • My home page:
  • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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RE: Siri as seen on TV?

2013-03-31 Thread Thom 
If you turn off voice over it will do the trick.
Just lift the phone to your head and it should make the sound to access siri
 

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When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather was
like, she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she told me,
which was good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.  But, is there
a way that I can just have her answer me, without telling me what I said?
LIke the commercials on TV, where she just comes back with the snappy
response.  It's sort of anticlimactic if she repeats back to me what I said.
Way to cut out this part? 
Thanks. :)



 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 . MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 . My home page:
 . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/




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Home page:  Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/




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Siri as seen on TV?

2013-03-31 Thread Mark BurningHawk 
When I woke up and turned over in bed and asked Siri what the weather was like, 
she said, "You said, What's the weather like?" and then she told me, which was 
good because it was raining and my chicken was ill.  But, is there a way that I 
can just have her answer me, without telling me what I said?  LIke the 
commercials on TV, where she just comes back with the snappy response.  It's 
sort of anticlimactic if she repeats back to me what I said.  Way to cut out 
this part?
Thanks. :)


 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
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 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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