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Hi Kerri, When it comes to upgrading from a 4 or even a 4S to a 5S or 6 I am with you 100%. However, what I don't get is how some people think they are really gaining a lot by upgrading from a 5S to a 6 or 6 Plus and even the upgrade from a 5 to the 6 which is a 2-generation upgrade for most people is probably not that necessary. Yes, it will be marginally faster, but apart from that the only main benefit of a 5S versus a 5 would be touch Id and the 64 Bit processor which means you can run Alex if you really like that voice. Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kerri G Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Hi, I mainly agree with what you have stated here. Now I admit that we only had our iPhone 4 for 2 years but that wasn’t because we wanted a new 5S just to keep current. the issue was that he 4 was slowing down under IOS7, we did not have Siri; in short, we should have waited a month to purchase the 4S. So I think it largely depends on your circumstances. On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8. When that happens, then I can see how much slower it is. I would assume that the ipad mini 2 will make a difference running ios 8. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Hi Russ, If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need Alex
Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
Hi, I mainly agree with what you have stated here. Now I admit that we only had our iPhone 4 for 2 years but that wasn’t because we wanted a new 5S just to keep current. the issue was that he 4 was slowing down under IOS7, we did not have Siri; in short, we should have waited a month to purchase the 4S. So I think it largely depends on your circumstances. On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8. When that happens, then I can see how much slower it is. I would assume that the ipad mini 2 will make a difference running ios 8. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Hi Russ, If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3. As of now, I have the first generation ipad mini. In my case, updating to the ipad mini 2 will be an upgrade of hardware. -Original Message- From: Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:
Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3?
I believe Charles is suggesting that it just might be remarkable if Microsoft engendered a policy of protecting the customer investment and not introduce operating systems that require new PC platforms to run on efficiently. I certainly see his point. Holland's Boy, Bill - Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? I don't understand your point about Microsoft's support of operating systems? How do you want Microsoft to think about operating system support? I must be missing it, but unless you want Microsoft to do more to encourage people to think they need to upgrade every year or two, I'm not sure how your statement relates to the rest of the thread. On 10/17/2014 12:02 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: I sure wish Microsoft thought this way when it comes to operating system support. I did upgrade from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 in order to get Siri, and am still using the same phone. I'm thinking that, when I get the money, I may upgrade to a 6 plus for better battery life, but that's not going to happen for a while. I also plan to get the KNFB reader because of how well it does what it does, but that, too, is down the road. The only complaint I have about my current phone is that it is a 16 gig model. I sure wish we could use thumb drives. Well, maybe I should rephrase that, because we can get external storage devices for iPhones, but the price is far too high for my liking. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios
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Hmm, I guess I don't see this point. Microsoft supported Windows XP for over 10 years. I don't see any other operating system provider supporting an operating system for that long. The laptop I'm using right now was purchased when the latest iPhone was the iPhone 4. My laptop is still running Windows 7, which is still a supported operating system from Microsoft. Furthermore, I could easily upgrade to Windows 8 on this laptop. An iPhone 4, on the other hand, is not supported by IOS 8. I could add memory to my laptop and increase the size of my internal hard drive, thus protecting my original investment in a laptop and getting more life out of it. Microsoft's laptop and desktop operating systems are also supported on a much larger range of platforms from many more hardware providers than Apple's operating systems. There are a lot of reasons to knock Microsoft, but claiming that Apple does more to protect your hardware investment than Microsoft isn't one of them. After all, Microsoft doesn't generate as much revenue from hardware sales as Apple does. On 10/18/2014 07:45 AM, Bill Gallik wrote: I believe Charles is suggesting that it just might be remarkable if Microsoft engendered a policy of protecting the customer investment and not introduce operating systems that require new PC platforms to run on efficiently. I certainly see his point. Holland's Boy, Bill - Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? I don't understand your point about Microsoft's support of operating systems? How do you want Microsoft to think about operating system support? I must be missing it, but unless you want Microsoft to do more to encourage people to think they need to upgrade every year or two, I'm not sure how your statement relates to the rest of the thread. On 10/17/2014 12:02 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: I sure wish Microsoft thought this way when it comes to operating system support. I did upgrade from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 in order to get Siri, and am still using the same phone. I'm thinking that, when I get the money, I may upgrade to a 6 plus for better battery life, but that's not going to happen for a while. I also plan to get the KNFB reader because of how well it does what it does, but that, too, is down the road. The only complaint I have about my current phone is that it is a 16 gig model. I sure wish we could use thumb drives. Well, maybe I should rephrase that, because we can get external storage devices for iPhones, but the price is far too high for my liking. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months
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Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8. When that happens, then I can see how much slower it is. I would assume that the ipad mini 2 will make a difference running ios 8. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Hi Russ, If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? I'll probably get the ipad mini 2 instead of the ipad mini 3. As of now, I have the first generation ipad mini. In my case, updating to the ipad mini 2 will be an upgrade of hardware. -Original Message- From: Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Somebody else just posted stating that the processor in the mini has not been updated. If that is true, my original statement stands. Why the hell by the new one? Take advantage of the price drop and get the old one. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Traci our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Not in the Mini, it is still the a7 chip. On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com wrote: Hello, Yes. It’s
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I sure wish Microsoft thought this way when it comes to operating system support. I did upgrade from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 in order to get Siri, and am still using the same phone. I'm thinking that, when I get the money, I may upgrade to a 6 plus for better battery life, but that's not going to happen for a while. I also plan to get the KNFB reader because of how well it does what it does, but that, too, is down the road. The only complaint I have about my current phone is that it is a 16 gig model. I sure wish we could use thumb drives. Well, maybe I should rephrase that, because we can get external storage devices for iPhones, but the price is far too high for my liking. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8. When that happens, then I can see how much slower it is. I would assume that the ipad mini 2 will make a difference running ios 8. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Hi Russ, If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which will give you a bit better speed. However, unless you really feel you need Alex which in my opinion sounds less clear than the default high quality female voice, why not get a third year out of your device and then upgrade next year when there will be some real changes. Just my thought on this. Regards, -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I don't understand your point about Microsoft's support of operating systems? How do you want Microsoft to think about operating system support? I must be missing it, but unless you want Microsoft to do more to encourage people to think they need to upgrade every year or two, I'm not sure how your statement relates to the rest of the thread. On 10/17/2014 12:02 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: I sure wish Microsoft thought this way when it comes to operating system support. I did upgrade from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 in order to get Siri, and am still using the same phone. I'm thinking that, when I get the money, I may upgrade to a 6 plus for better battery life, but that's not going to happen for a while. I also plan to get the KNFB reader because of how well it does what it does, but that, too, is down the road. The only complaint I have about my current phone is that it is a 16 gig model. I sure wish we could use thumb drives. Well, maybe I should rephrase that, because we can get external storage devices for iPhones, but the price is far too high for my liking. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: To upgrade or not to upgrade, was: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Mary, I find it interesting how some people still have PC's running Windows XP and Jaws 10 which means said PC is probably 5+ years old, but in some cases the same people feel they have to upgrade a 2-year old iPhone or iPad or in some cases even a 1-year old device. We are definitely taught that consuming and spending is the way to go and for the last 10 or 15 years kids grow up like that. Many things are made as throw-away items (printers are a good example) and companies understand very well how to get people to fix things which aren't really broken. I bought my Mom's iPad 2 for her and if I suggested now that maybe she should upgrade to the latest iPad Air 2 because it was faster, thinner, lighter and had touch Id she would just ask me why she would want to do that since her iPad works perfectly well for what she does. She is of course correct. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Truth to tell, I still have an old iPad one, which I bought right when iPad 2 came out. It has not been upgradable since iOS 5. But a lot of things still work on it. To be sure, it is rather sluggish by today's standards. But it's great for reading books. All my book apps still run just fine. Even audible, which can't be updated, so I don't have the delete problem on that machine. Smile. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Yes, it probably will make some difference, but then again as Apple refines iOS 8 it may run more efficiently on the slightly older devices and it's not like your iPad is that old. And if you do buy an iPad Mini 3 and maybe you wait a couple more months then 9 or 10 months later iOS 9 comes out and the next generation ipad Mini will be announced which most definitely then will get the A8 or even the nnewest A9 chip and you are once again in the same boat where maybe iOS 9 will run better on the newest devices and so on. My Mom is running iOS 8 on an iPad 2, that is the original large iPad second generation which I believe has an A5 processor and while she is not using voiceover, iOS itself works just fine. Your ipad |Mini as far as I remember would have an A6 or A6x processor and iOS 8 should run fine on that. Apple may want you to buy a new device every year or every 2 years, but market studies show that especially with the ipad a lot of people are using them for much longer. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? The thing is, I haven't installed ios 8 on my first generation ipad mini. I'm wondering if it will make it run slower than it currently is with ios 7? I want to wait for the bugs to be worked out of ios 8. When that happens, then I can see how much slower it is. I would assume that the ipad mini 2 will make a difference running ios 8. -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Hmmm, iPad mini 3? Hi Russ, If I were you I'd wait a year unless there is something wrong with your current iPad Mini. Yes, the iPad Mini Retina gives you a retina screen (probably not important for you) and it will give you the A7 processor which will give you a bit better
