Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi/Parkhomov reaction and the hydrogen anion
FYI: Ryan was kind enough to reply back and stated that the Alumina Reactor Tube had over 0.1” tolerance in diameter inside the SiC Heating Element, so it appears that this expansion is not a concern. When I get some free time, I will try to formally go through the analysis and post it here, for future design work. Mark Jurich From: Mark Jurich Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:06 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Re: Rossi/Parkhomov reaction and the hydrogen anion Thanks for the info, Bob. For the last week, I have been concerned about the Elastic Expansion of the Reactor Tube due to the approximately 5000 psi pressure change that could occur. A back-of-the-envelope calculation revealed a 0.010” expansion. This is about an order of magnitude greater than the thermal expansion (If both tubes were the same Alumina Material, the thermal expansion would “track” each other and essentially cancel, but not the elastic expansion of the Reactor Tube due to the pressure.). If there wasn’t enough Free Tolerance for the Reactor Tube to “breathe” it would jam against the alumina heater tube surrounding it, creating small pressure points, possibly cracking both tubes. ... I’ll pass this note on to Ryan and perhaps he can rest my fears on this. - Mark Jurich From: Bob Higgins Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:39 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi/Parkhomov reaction and the hydrogen anion Ryan Hunt would better to ask this question. I believe the reactor tube in the Bang! experiment was from CoorsTek. The other dogbone alumina tubes were also from CoorsTek. They have an online store. It is the dogbone Lugano HotCat replica that has the heater coil wrapped around a second alumina "heater" tube and then overmolded with the finned convection surface. The design called for a heater tube ID of 7.95mm and a reactor tube OD of 6.35mm. I don't know what the actual tube measurements were. However, the Bang! experiment did not use the dogbone as the tube furnace for the experiment. Bob Greenyer had gotten some sample SiC tube heaters that could go to very high temperature. They tried molding one into a dogbone, but it was too fragile and just shattered during the molding process. The closed-one-end reactor tube was slipped into the SiC tube heater with no convection surface other than the bare SiC heater tube. I don't know what the clearance was for the SiC heater tube, but it was probably about 4-5mm in diameter. The SiC heater could go easily to 1500C, so there was no problem in getting the reactor tube as hot as they wanted. It would have been difficult to measure a real COP for that experiment. The thermocouple was attached to the reactor tube and it was also measured using the Williamson pyrometer. When the alumina tube exploded in the Bang! experiment, it completely shattered the SiC heater tube around it and that was the last sample. Future experiments will likely be in the dogbone. On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Mark Jurich wrote: Bob, what was the Free Tolerance between the Reaction Tube OD and the Heater Tube ID in the MFMP Bang! Experiment? Who was the manufacturer of the alumina tubes? Thanks, Mark Jurich
Re: [Vo]:excluded LENR science to excellent technology
Dear Peter, I was mostly trying to give my two cents about why such an 'heavy' organization like SR can reward the ambition of nullify a (possible) progress. The Jante law is a fact and it probably has corresponding features among other nationalities. Otherwise I have learnt that it does not differ between nationalities but between individuals. Yes, there were fewer victims in Scandinavia but it lived and lives an awful lot more people in Austria / Germany. I do not know that the Catholics executed more witches but it would not amaze me as there are more mysticism in the Catholic church. It would not have happened anywhere, had it not been because mystical (and fabricated) stories kept the masses at bay. The church was strong but hardly kind. I think I heard Mats saying they will be back with more material (the testers). I agree that they should be reprimanded for not keeping things going at a better pace. The affiliation with Rossi and his demand for keeping some issues to himself might play a role here. However, even if that is understandable they could communicate just that; 'Rossi has not released the follow up - he has said he will have edited / approved our follow up DATE'. More communication is better for Parkhomov and everybody involved. Why make it difficult?. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Lennart, > > I wrote once an essay about witch hunt andI remebered this episode- > especially for the two boys who told who is witch. It is hystory. > An interesting aspect is the contribution of Catholics and Protestants to > the number of exections. > Sandinavai had say 5,000 victims while Germany Austria and satellies > 50,000 > > But the attack of the radio now is strange- it is impossible to > communicate with the testers. I think they could help the cause and > Parkhomov. > > Peter > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Lennart Thornros > wrote: > >> Hello Peter, >> I think your conclusion about Swedes is a little too general. Not I feel >> 'hit' by your statement about the Torsaker drama from being a Swede. >> However, this happened at the time Sweden was a major powerhouse and ruled >> large part of Europe. This stuff happened all over the world and was a >> result of ignorance and that the religion promoted mysticism. >> I think you have to see this in the light of more modern cultural flaws. >> I responded to Mats about it yesterday saying that the Jante law is still >> in charge. Jante is a short for 'Jag ar inte' (I am not . . . ). A Swede >> following the Jante laws avoids to accept anything that means he is better >> or have a better idea. Proper handling of good news is to say; I have not >> seen anything special and I do not take credit for anything good and as a >> matter of fact those claiming the right to brag about what I do not know >> about- they are lying. In my opinion that is a major hindrance for new >> things to be accepted. During the time we waited for the result from Lugano >> several people at Vortex suspected that Swedish professors where delaying >> so they could take unfair advantage. I knew that was not the case. There is >> no acceptance for that in Sweden. One better stick to the Jante law and >> admit; 'I am not worthy'. I think it is a way to make sure you do not >> predict wrong about the future. Later on if one is wrong following that law >> you can easily defend your point of view;'I was not going to accept teh >> unclear and tainted result we first heard about - now when we have clear >> status I am all in favor'. >> Maybe I just accept Torsakersprasten - it is less complicated:) >> >> Best Regards , >> Lennart Thornros >> >> www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com >> lenn...@thornros.com >> +1 916 436 1899 >> 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 >> >> “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a >> commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM >> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Peter Gluck >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Friends, >>> >>> It is about daily news, troubles with the Press, the way out >>> >>> >>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/lenr-on-way-from-excluded-science-to.html >>> >>> I want to see the days filled with Hot Cat replication tests. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>> Cluj, Romania >>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
[Vo]:Buckminsterdodecanitrofullerene Bomb
The buckybomb combines the unique properties of two classes of materials: carbon structures and energetic nanomaterials. Carbon materials such as C60 can be chemically modified fairly easily to change their properties. Meanwhile, NO2 groups are known to contribute to detonation and combustion processes because they are a major source of oxygen. So, the scientists wondered what would happen if NO2 groups were attached to C60 molecules: would the whole thing explode? And how? The simulations answered these questions by revealing the explosion in step-by-step detail. Starting with an intact buckybomb (technically called dodecanitrofullerene, or C60(NO2)12), the researchers raised the simulated temperature to 1000 K (700 °C). Within a picosecond (10-12 second), the NO2 groups begin to isomerize, rearranging their atoms and forming new groups with some of the carbon atoms from the C60. As a few more picoseconds pass, the C60 structure loses some of its electrons, which interferes with the bonds that hold it together, and, in a flash, the large molecule disintegrates into many tiny pieces of diatomic carbon (C2). What's left is a mixture of gases including CO2, NO2, and N2, as well as C2. Although this reaction requires an initial heat input to get going, once it's going it releases an enormous amount of heat for its size. Within the first picosecond, the temperature increases from 1000 to 2500 K. But at this point the molecule is unstable, so additional reactions over the next 50 picoseconds raise the temperature to 4000 K. At this temperature, the pressure can reach as high as 1200 MPa (more than 10,000 times normal atmospheric pressure), depending on the density of the material. Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2015-03-buckybomb-potential-power-nanoscale-explosives.html
Re: [Vo]:excluded LENR science to excellent technology
Dear Lennart, I wrote once an essay about witch hunt andI remebered this episode- especially for the two boys who told who is witch. It is hystory. An interesting aspect is the contribution of Catholics and Protestants to the number of exections. Sandinavai had say 5,000 victims while Germany Austria and satellies 50,000 But the attack of the radio now is strange- it is impossible to communicate with the testers. I think they could help the cause and Parkhomov. Peter On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Hello Peter, > I think your conclusion about Swedes is a little too general. Not I feel > 'hit' by your statement about the Torsaker drama from being a Swede. > However, this happened at the time Sweden was a major powerhouse and ruled > large part of Europe. This stuff happened all over the world and was a > result of ignorance and that the religion promoted mysticism. > I think you have to see this in the light of more modern cultural flaws. > I responded to Mats about it yesterday saying that the Jante law is still > in charge. Jante is a short for 'Jag ar inte' (I am not . . . ). A Swede > following the Jante laws avoids to accept anything that means he is better > or have a better idea. Proper handling of good news is to say; I have not > seen anything special and I do not take credit for anything good and as a > matter of fact those claiming the right to brag about what I do not know > about- they are lying. In my opinion that is a major hindrance for new > things to be accepted. During the time we waited for the result from Lugano > several people at Vortex suspected that Swedish professors where delaying > so they could take unfair advantage. I knew that was not the case. There is > no acceptance for that in Sweden. One better stick to the Jante law and > admit; 'I am not worthy'. I think it is a way to make sure you do not > predict wrong about the future. Later on if one is wrong following that law > you can easily defend your point of view;'I was not going to accept teh > unclear and tainted result we first heard about - now when we have clear > status I am all in favor'. > Maybe I just accept Torsakersprasten - it is less complicated:) > > Best Regards , > Lennart Thornros > > www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com > lenn...@thornros.com > +1 916 436 1899 > 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 > > “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a > commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> It is about daily news, troubles with the Press, the way out >> >> >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/lenr-on-way-from-excluded-science-to.html >> >> I want to see the days filled with Hot Cat replication tests. >> >> Peter >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:excluded LENR science to excellent technology
Hello Peter, I think your conclusion about Swedes is a little too general. Not I feel 'hit' by your statement about the Torsaker drama from being a Swede. However, this happened at the time Sweden was a major powerhouse and ruled large part of Europe. This stuff happened all over the world and was a result of ignorance and that the religion promoted mysticism. I think you have to see this in the light of more modern cultural flaws. I responded to Mats about it yesterday saying that the Jante law is still in charge. Jante is a short for 'Jag ar inte' (I am not . . . ). A Swede following the Jante laws avoids to accept anything that means he is better or have a better idea. Proper handling of good news is to say; I have not seen anything special and I do not take credit for anything good and as a matter of fact those claiming the right to brag about what I do not know about- they are lying. In my opinion that is a major hindrance for new things to be accepted. During the time we waited for the result from Lugano several people at Vortex suspected that Swedish professors where delaying so they could take unfair advantage. I knew that was not the case. There is no acceptance for that in Sweden. One better stick to the Jante law and admit; 'I am not worthy'. I think it is a way to make sure you do not predict wrong about the future. Later on if one is wrong following that law you can easily defend your point of view;'I was not going to accept teh unclear and tainted result we first heard about - now when we have clear status I am all in favor'. Maybe I just accept Torsakersprasten - it is less complicated:) Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Friends, > > It is about daily news, troubles with the Press, the way out > > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/lenr-on-way-from-excluded-science-to.html > > I want to see the days filled with Hot Cat replication tests. > > Peter > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
[Vo]:excluded LENR science to excellent technology
Dear Friends, It is about daily news, troubles with the Press, the way out http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/lenr-on-way-from-excluded-science-to.html I want to see the days filled with Hot Cat replication tests. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:Investigative journalism rewarded
I would speculate that SK will also report on this over at NET since he would perceive it as another imagined harpoon impaled into is favorite great white whale. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:56 PM On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Lewan Mats mailto:mats.le...@nyteknik.se> > wrote: The scientific news team at Swedish National Radio, SR, received a honorary mention a few days ago at the Swedish Rewards for investigative journalism, The Golden Spade, for its four part reportage on Swedish researchers' (those who made the Lugano measurements) collaboration with the "fraudster" Andrea Rossi (and where also I was a main target). There is no good deed that goes unpunished. Eric
