Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread Terry Blanton
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Terry Blanton  wrote:
Just nod if you can hear me.  Is there anyone at  home?

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:27 PM, peatbog  wrote:
>> Replied to in vortex-b.
>>
>
> I got a 550 failure from the attempt to send the reply to
> vortex-b, so maybe Popfile can sort the political junk from the
> juicy fringe-science stuff.
>
>



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread peatbog
> Replied to in vortex-b.
> 

I got a 550 failure from the attempt to send the reply to
vortex-b, so maybe Popfile can sort the political junk from the
juicy fringe-science stuff.



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread peatbog
Replied to in vortex-b.



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> Kindly take this stuff to Vortex-b.

Hi Bog,

I've said my peace. I guess one could say I've had my cup'o'java.

However, in regards to your request. No.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread Man on Bridges

Hi,

On 12-10-2011 15:08, Peter Gluck wrote:
It seems people still do not love Egality because it is an impossible, 
biased, false ant-mertocratic concept. But slowly the start to hate 
Inequality when it is in malign forms.

Take this meta-movement and the Arab spring.
It is important however that the solutions found should be better than 
the original problems.


Or as they say: "If you ain't part of the solution, you are part of the 
problem"


Kind regards,

MoB



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread peatbog
Kindly take this stuff to Vortex-b.



Re: [Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Gluck
You started it, my friend- but I have raised the problem
in the final part of this essay:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/02/sue-ellen-principle-and-kaltwasser.html

It seems people still do not love Egality because it is an impossible,
biased, false ant-mertocratic concept. But slowly the start to hate
Inequality when it is in malign forms.
Take this meta-movement and the Arab spring.
It is important however that the solutions found should be better than the
original problems.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:55 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

> From: Peter Gluck
>
> > History's bad wordplay:
> > http://www.alternet.org/story/152698/millionaire%27s_march%>
>
> 3A_protesters_hit_the_streets_in_ny_and_visit_the_1_percent_at_their_homes?a
> kid=7693.112117.nEOOaL&rd=1&t=2
>
> > 1 percent richest = FatCats
> >
> > Just signalling it, not to be discussed, please
>
> Too late, Peter,
>
> I DO feel compelled to briefly discuss the "political" mater... just a tad
> because I'm an American, and I'm deeply concerned about the direction my
> country has been headed lately. It's not pretty.
>
> IMO, it is appalling how many republican candidates vying for the president
> of the United States in 2012 have either dismissed or completely condemned
> these grass-roots demonstrations. They have side-stepped the fact that the
> formation of the movement is pretty much how their own super-conservative
> Tea Party movement began from individuals unhappy about the way things have
> been handled. It has been called the Tea Party of the Left. An appropriate
> description.
>
> This movement, of course, reminds me of my own participation in the
> Wisconsin demonstrations last winter against super conservative Governor,
> Mr. Walker, who is essentially my employer, me being a state employee.
> Walker is now facing the possibility of being recalled. Petitions to have
> him recalled will begin in earnest in November. Possible re-elections may
> proceed around April and May of next year.
>
> Meanwhile, in regards to the 99% movement, I heard republican candidate,
> Herman Cain, describe the movement as comprised of a bunch of disgruntled
> people blaming rich people for having jobs (and wealth) while they
> themselves don't. Herman's solution? Don't blame the rich for having jobs
> and having gotten rich from their efforts. His solution: go out and work
> for
> the wealth you covet from the rich. I guess from Herman's POV many of 9%
> who
> are currently unemployed must be lazy, or something stupid like that. He's
> clueless, and yet there are enough people in this country who apparently
> buy
> into his profound ignorance of the situation. Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann
> stated that she thought she saw a lot of union organizers in the midst of
> 99% crowds. Therefore, I guess that from her POV it makes the crowds
> nothing
> more than puppets doing the bidding of these nasty Union organizers. And,
> here too, there are enough people in this country who apparently buy into
> her POV as well.
>
> I am concerned about what will happen in 2012. I hope for the best, but to
> be honest I currently feel pessimistic. Perhaps It's because I haven't had
> my cup'o'java this morning yet.
>
> Regards,
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


[Vo]:OT - formally just interesting- other FatCats in some trouble

2011-10-12 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From: Peter Gluck

> History's bad wordplay:
> http://www.alternet.org/story/152698/millionaire%27s_march%>
3A_protesters_hit_the_streets_in_ny_and_visit_the_1_percent_at_their_homes?a
kid=7693.112117.nEOOaL&rd=1&t=2

> 1 percent richest = FatCats
>
> Just signalling it, not to be discussed, please

Too late, Peter,

I DO feel compelled to briefly discuss the "political" mater... just a tad
because I'm an American, and I'm deeply concerned about the direction my
country has been headed lately. It's not pretty.

IMO, it is appalling how many republican candidates vying for the president
of the United States in 2012 have either dismissed or completely condemned
these grass-roots demonstrations. They have side-stepped the fact that the
formation of the movement is pretty much how their own super-conservative
Tea Party movement began from individuals unhappy about the way things have
been handled. It has been called the Tea Party of the Left. An appropriate
description.

This movement, of course, reminds me of my own participation in the
Wisconsin demonstrations last winter against super conservative Governor,
Mr. Walker, who is essentially my employer, me being a state employee.
Walker is now facing the possibility of being recalled. Petitions to have
him recalled will begin in earnest in November. Possible re-elections may
proceed around April and May of next year.

Meanwhile, in regards to the 99% movement, I heard republican candidate,
Herman Cain, describe the movement as comprised of a bunch of disgruntled
people blaming rich people for having jobs (and wealth) while they
themselves don't. Herman's solution? Don't blame the rich for having jobs
and having gotten rich from their efforts. His solution: go out and work for
the wealth you covet from the rich. I guess from Herman's POV many of 9% who
are currently unemployed must be lazy, or something stupid like that. He's
clueless, and yet there are enough people in this country who apparently buy
into his profound ignorance of the situation. Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann
stated that she thought she saw a lot of union organizers in the midst of
99% crowds. Therefore, I guess that from her POV it makes the crowds nothing
more than puppets doing the bidding of these nasty Union organizers. And,
here too, there are enough people in this country who apparently buy into
her POV as well.

I am concerned about what will happen in 2012. I hope for the best, but to
be honest I currently feel pessimistic. Perhaps It's because I haven't had
my cup'o'java this morning yet.

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks