Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
Hi Robert, Well done! Glad you now have you system almost as you want it. To answer your question below, I was under the impression you did a fresh install of Snow Leopard OS X 10.6. If that is the case I wouldn't expect you to see mail boxes when you open Mail.app. Just to add another comment. The intention of the dual boot is to do most of your day-to-day task under Lion, including reading and answering email and to only boot into Snow Leopard when you want to run a legacy app that you cannot port to Lion. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-10, at 23:13, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: At Last! It's all up and running.Your reset password link worked beautifully/ Many thanks for all your helpful advice.This has been quite a challenge for me. One small problem has arisen with mail in 10.6.8- My mailboxes have vanished and so has the Signatures button! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
You're right! Lion for every day it shall be. Once again,many thanks! Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au On 10/08/2011, at 11:49 PM, cm wrote: Hi Robert, Well done! Glad you now have you system almost as you want it. To answer your question below, I was under the impression you did a fresh install of Snow Leopard OS X 10.6. If that is the case I wouldn't expect you to see mail boxes when you open Mail.app. Just to add another comment. The intention of the dual boot is to do most of your day-to-day task under Lion, including reading and answering email and to only boot into Snow Leopard when you want to run a legacy app that you cannot port to Lion. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-10, at 23:13, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: At Last! It's all up and running.Your reset password link worked beautifully/ Many thanks for all your helpful advice.This has been quite a challenge for me. One small problem has arisen with mail in 10.6.8- My mailboxes have vanished and so has the Signatures button! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
HEELP! I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext. drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard on small partition and applicable soft ware. Results! Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line. On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume. The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion. tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail. Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that ! Please help.Thanks! Hi Robert, Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options. Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role. Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion. To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail sketch of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow the abbreviated steps, please write back to the group. 1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something go wrong. 2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal drive, 50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended (journaled) format. 3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X 10.7 Lion. 4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there. Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can boot into Snow Leopard by holding down the Option key. You can run Freehand and Photoshop CS2 by booting into Snow Leopard. There are a number of variations to the above. One is to put Snow Leopard on an external drive. If this is bootable (as described by Ronni below) you can boot into it by holding down the option key. Another variation is to use copy your original bootable Snow Leopard install back to the the small partition -- this, however, will likely require you to make your Snow Leopard install much smaller by deleting redundant files. Remember that while you may not be able run certain applications on both systems, all the data files of each operating system are visible to both operating systems, so there is not need to maintain two copies of your data files. One small complication is that you need to stop Spotlight from indexing both operating system application files. That is to say, if you use Spotlight to launch, say, Disk Utility (as I do), you don't want the Lion version showing up in Snow Leopard, and the Snow Leopard version showing up in Lion. This is solved by excluding the Snow Leopard Application file from within the Spotlight preferences on Lion, and excluding the Lion Application folder from within the Spotlight preferences on Snow Leopard. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-04, at 10:26, Ronda Brown wrote: On 04/08/2011, at 9:55 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: I need to continue using Macromedia Freehand MX and Photoshop CS2 in my work as I'm familiar with them but aware that OS Lion does not support them. Is it possible to run 10.6.8 from an external Drive (and use Lion on My computer Drive (iMac 27)? If so how does one select which OS to start up with? I have a fairly reasonable clue about this issue but would appreciate some Expert advice Thanks in advance! Hi Robert, I would suggest a better way is to do what I have done. I cloned my OS X 10.6.8 system using Super Duper (you can use Carbon Copy Cloner if you prefer) onto a bootable External FW Drive. Then purchased Lion OS X 10.7 from the App Store and installed Lion on an external FW Drive. This way I can boot into Lion for testing purposes before I decide if I want it on my main work MacBook Pro. By doing this, my work MBP is not being disturbed by any ‘glitches’ that I might find using Lion. You can use a USB External; Drive if you wish, I just prefer using FW drives (of which I have many ;-) Very important: You first must format the external drive in ‘GUID Partition Table’ Format: Mac OS Extended (journaled) otherwise you will not be able to boot from the drive. (If you require details how to format an external drive, please post back
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
Hi Robert, Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position. I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the following 1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive 2) A backup of your old system on an external drive 3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of your main hard drive. So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you are. On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change that please try the following: * By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion. * Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk * Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your computer The system should now reboot into Lion. Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix that later. Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following: * With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the one with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it. * Reboot while holding down the Option key Does the external drive appear as a start up option? If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: HEELP! I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext. drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard on small partition and applicable soft ware. Results! Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line. On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume. The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion. tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail. Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that ! Please help.Thanks! Hi Robert, Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options. Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role. Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion. To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail sketch of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow the abbreviated steps, please write back to the group. 1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something go wrong. 2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal drive, 50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended (journaled) format. 3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X 10.7 Lion. 4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there. Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can boot into Snow Leopard by holding down the Option key. You can run Freehand and Photoshop CS2 by booting into Snow Leopard. There are a number of variations to the above. One is to put Snow Leopard on an external drive. If this is bootable (as described by Ronni below) you can boot into it by holding down the option key. Another variation is to use copy your original bootable Snow Leopard install back to the the small partition -- this, however, will likely require you to make your Snow Leopard install much smaller by deleting redundant files. Remember that while you may not be able run certain applications on both systems, all the data files of each operating system are visible to both operating systems, so there is not need to maintain two copies of your data files. One small complication is that you need to stop Spotlight from indexing both operating system application files. That is to say, if you use Spotlight to launch, say, Disk Utility (as I do), you don't want the Lion version showing up in Snow Leopard, and the Snow Leopard version showing up in Lion. This is solved by excluding the Snow Leopard Application file from within the Spotlight preferences on Lion, and excluding the Lion Application folder from within the Spotlight preferences on Snow Leopard. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-04, at 10:26, Ronda Brown wrote: On 04/08/2011, at 9:55 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: I need to continue using
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been, but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow Leopard OS
X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second partition?
Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original system, or was it a
fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly deleted
the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change that
please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix that
later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS Extended(Journaled).Installed
Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard on small partition and
applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number of
options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A
large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this
partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller internal
partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see all the
data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one just restarts
the computer while holding down the Option key and one sees a selection
menu to choose either operating system. By default the computer boots into
OS X 10.7 Lion.
To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail sketch
of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow the
abbreviated steps, please write back to the group.
1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy
Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something
go wrong.
2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal drive,
50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended (journaled)
format.
3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X 10.7
Lion.
4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install
the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there.
Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can boot into Snow Leopard
by holding down the Option key. You can run Freehand and Photoshop CS2 by
booting into Snow Leopard.
There are a number of variations to the above. One is to put Snow Leopard
on an external drive. If this is bootable (as described by Ronni below)
you can boot into it by holding down the option key. Another variation is
to use copy your original bootable Snow Leopard install back to the the
small partition -- this, however, will likely require you to make your
Snow Leopard install much smaller by deleting redundant files.
Remember
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
It was a fresh install from a DVD
On 05/08/2011, at 9:40 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been, but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow Leopard
OS X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second
partition? Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original system,
or was it a fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly deleted
the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change
that please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix that
later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS
Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard
on small partition and applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number
of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A
large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this
partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller internal
partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see all the
data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one just
restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one sees a
selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the computer
boots into OS X 10.7 Lion.
To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail sketch
of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow the
abbreviated steps, please write back to the group.
1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy
Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something
go wrong.
2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal drive,
50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended (journaled)
format.
3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X 10.7
Lion.
4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install
the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there.
Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can boot into Snow Leopard
by holding down the Option key. You can run Freehand and Photoshop CS2 by
booting into Snow Leopard.
There are a number of variations to the above. One is to put Snow Leopard
on an external drive. If this is bootable (as described by Ronni below)
you can boot into it by holding down the option key. Another variation is
to use copy your original bootable Snow Leopard install back to the the
small partition -- this, however, will likely require you to
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
OK Robert. Give me a bit of time to do some trials I will post back. Options
that spring to mind are running disk repair on the 10.6 partition from the 10.6
DVD. Or alternatively putting the iMac in target disk mode and affecting the
repair from a MacBook. Or perhaps even installing Snow Leopard on an external
drive until you the get the internal drive copy functional.
I'll get back to you tomorrow evening.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 23:03, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
It was a fresh install from a DVD
On 05/08/2011, at 9:40 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been, but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow Leopard
OS X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second
partition? Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original system,
or was it a fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly
deleted the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change
that please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix
that later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS
Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard
on small partition and applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number
of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A
large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this
partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller
internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see
all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one
just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one
sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the
computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion.
To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail
sketch of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow
the abbreviated steps, please write back to the group.
1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy
Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something
go wrong.
2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal
drive, 50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended
(journaled) format.
3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X
10.7 Lion.
4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install
the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there.
Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
You could just try booting off the 10.6 DVD and then reinstall 10.6 onto the
10.6 partition you made.
Once reinstalled, you should then have the option of booting to the Lion
(10.7) or Snow Leopard (10.6) partitions.
It will only reinstall the operating system and keep everything else in
tact.
Once booted, you can then go and install the updates for 10.6.
That should get it working on both.
Otherwise you may have some more under lying problems going on.
Kind regards
Daniel
---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry
Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au
Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
**For everything Macintosh**
On 6/8/11 12:36 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
OK Robert. Give me a bit of time to do some trials I will post back. Options
that spring to mind are running disk repair on the 10.6 partition from the
10.6 DVD. Or alternatively putting the iMac in target disk mode and affecting
the repair from a MacBook. Or perhaps even installing Snow Leopard on an
external drive until you the get the internal drive copy functional.
I'll get back to you tomorrow evening.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 23:03, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
It was a fresh install from a DVD
On 05/08/2011, at 9:40 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been, but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow Leopard
OS X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second
partition? Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original system,
or was it a fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly
deleted the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change
that please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix
that later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS
Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard
on small partition and applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number
of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A
large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this
partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller
internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see
all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one
just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one
sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the
computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion.
To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail
sketch of the steps below, but if you want to proceed
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
You could just try booting off the 10.6 DVD and then reinstall 10.6 onto the
10.6 partition you made.
Once reinstalled, you should then have the option of booting to the Lion
(10.7) or Snow Leopard (10.6) partitions.
It will only reinstall the operating system and keep everything else in
tact.
Once booted, you can then go and install the updates for 10.6.
That should get it working on both.
Otherwise you may have some more under lying problems going on.
Kind regards
Daniel
---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry
Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
**For everything Macintosh**
On 6/8/11 12:36 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
OK Robert. Give me a bit of time to do some trials I will post back. Options
that spring to mind are running disk repair on the 10.6 partition from the
10.6 DVD. Or alternatively putting the iMac in target disk mode and affecting
the repair from a MacBook. Or perhaps even installing Snow Leopard on an
external drive until you the get the internal drive copy functional.
I'll get back to you tomorrow evening.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 23:03, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
It was a fresh install from a DVD
On 05/08/2011, at 9:40 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been, but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow Leopard
OS X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second
partition? Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original system,
or was it a fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly
deleted the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change
that please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix
that later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS
Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard
on small partition and applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number
of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A
large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this
partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller
internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see
all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one
just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one
sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the
computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion.
To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail
sketch of the steps below, but if you want to
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
I'll just add to what Daniel said, that it would be wise to get a backup
(either Time Machine or external disk) before you do anything. And preferably
don't delete it. :-)
C
On 2011-08-06, at 24:49, Daniel Kerr wrote:
You could just try booting off the 10.6 DVD and then reinstall 10.6 onto the
10.6 partition you made.
Once reinstalled, you should then have the option of booting to the Lion
(10.7) or Snow Leopard (10.6) partitions.
It will only reinstall the operating system and keep everything else in
tact.
Once booted, you can then go and install the updates for 10.6.
That should get it working on both.
Otherwise you may have some more under lying problems going on.
Kind regards
Daniel
---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry
Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
**For everything Macintosh**
On 6/8/11 12:36 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
OK Robert. Give me a bit of time to do some trials I will post back. Options
that spring to mind are running disk repair on the 10.6 partition from the
10.6 DVD. Or alternatively putting the iMac in target disk mode and affecting
the repair from a MacBook. Or perhaps even installing Snow Leopard on an
external drive until you the get the internal drive copy functional.
I'll get back to you tomorrow evening.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 23:03, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
It was a fresh install from a DVD
On 05/08/2011, at 9:40 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been,
but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so
you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow
Leopard
OS X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second
partition? Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original
system,
or was it a fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly
deleted the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you
are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change
that please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix
that later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the
one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS
Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow leopard
on small partition and applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise
I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number
of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac.
A
large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this
partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller
internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can
see
all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one
just restarts the computer
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
That goes without saying doesn't it?? :)
Backup,..backup,...backup ;)
And then backup ;)
I offer suggestions, but don't take responsibility for no backups :) lol.
A bit like luggage handlers,..all care,..no responsibility,..lol :)
Kind regards
Daniel
On 6/8/11 12:58 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll just add to what Daniel said, that it would be wise to get a backup
(either Time Machine or external disk) before you do anything. And preferably
don't delete it. :-)
C
On 2011-08-06, at 24:49, Daniel Kerr wrote:
You could just try booting off the 10.6 DVD and then reinstall 10.6 onto the
10.6 partition you made.
Once reinstalled, you should then have the option of booting to the Lion
(10.7) or Snow Leopard (10.6) partitions.
It will only reinstall the operating system and keep everything else in
tact.
Once booted, you can then go and install the updates for 10.6.
That should get it working on both.
Otherwise you may have some more under lying problems going on.
Kind regards
Daniel
---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry
Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au
Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au
**For everything Macintosh**
On 6/8/11 12:36 AM, cm cm200...@gmail.com wrote:
OK Robert. Give me a bit of time to do some trials I will post back. Options
that spring to mind are running disk repair on the 10.6 partition from the
10.6 DVD. Or alternatively putting the iMac in target disk mode and
affecting
the repair from a MacBook. Or perhaps even installing Snow Leopard on an
external drive until you the get the internal drive copy functional.
I'll get back to you tomorrow evening.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 23:03, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
It was a fresh install from a DVD
On 05/08/2011, at 9:40 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Deleting your backup is probably a little bolder than I would have been,
but
nevertheless you still have a booting system and all your data files, so
you
are in good shape. :-)
The only problem to solve is to get yourself a bootable copy of Snow
Leopard
OS X 10.6. How did you go about installing Snow Leopard on the second
partition? Did you use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy back your original
system,
or was it a fresh install from a CD?
C
On 2011-08-05, at 20:59, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
Hi Carlo!
1. Lion fully operational -.Have now selected it as Startup disc in
system
Preferences
2. Oh Dear! Earlier today,when I thought all was working,I stupidly
deleted the old system files from the external Drive!!! :-{
3. YES,I have a non functioning 10.6.8 on Main drive Partition.
On 05/08/2011, at 8:18 PM, cm wrote:
Hi Robert,
Don't panic, I think you are in a reasonably good position.
I just want to confirm where you stand. The way I read it, you have the
following
1) A fully operational OS X 10.7 Lion install on your main hard drive
2) A backup of your old system on an external drive
3) A non-functioning install of OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard on a partition of
your main hard drive.
So let's see if we can get you to where you need to be from where you
are.
On problem seems to be that Lion does not boot up by default. To change
that please try the following:
* By holding down the Option key, boot into Lion.
* Bring up System Preferences = Startup Disk
* Select Mac OS X, 10.7 as the system you want to use to start up your
computer
The system should now reboot into Lion.
Don't worry about Spotlight for now, it will do no harm and we can fix
that later.
Finally, I have a question for you. Please do the following:
* With the computer shut down, plug in your external hard drive -- the
one
with the Snow Leopard 10.6 backup on it.
* Reboot while holding down the Option key
Does the external drive appear as a start up option?
If so select it and see if you boot up into your old system.
Cheers,
Carlo
On 2011-08-05, at 17:09, Robert Miller-Eves wrote:
HEELP!
I decided to try Carlo's suggestion - Made a Carbon Cloner copy on
ext.
drive, Partitioned the internal Drive (Mac OS
Extended(Journaled).Installed Lion on main System,Installed snow
leopard
on small partition and applicable soft ware.
Results!
Lion will not open as default -have to hold option on startup otherwise
I
get the spinning wheel and a circle with the diagonal line.
On startup with option I get the Lion Volume but no Snow Leopard
Volume.
The Leopard Volume does show up on the desktop in Lion.
tried running Disk Warrior on the Leopard Volume to no avail.
Checked out Spotlight Prefs in both systems.Need more help with that !
Please help.Thanks!
Hi Robert,
Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options.
Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a
number
of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role.
Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac.
A
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
Hi Robert, Just to add to what Ronda has said and to give you some other options. Assuming you are migrating towards Lion on your iMac, you have a number of options to run 10.6 Snow Leopard in an auxiliary role. Here is a setup that I recently put in place for someone with an iMac. A large internal partition of the hard drive runs OS X 10.7 Lion and this partition also contains all the data files, while a much smaller internal partition contains OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard can see all the data files available to Lion. To boot into Snow Leopard, one just restarts the computer while holding down the Option key and one sees a selection menu to choose either operating system. By default the computer boots into OS X 10.7 Lion. To get this setup proceed as follows. I will give just a thumbnail sketch of the steps below, but if you want to proceed and can't follow the abbreviated steps, please write back to the group. 1) Make a clone of your system to an external drive using Carbon Copy Cloner or equivalent, just to give you an exit strategy should something go wrong. 2) Use Disk Utility to make a new small partition on your internal drive, 50 - 150 GB should be ample. Use the default Mac OS Extended (journaled) format. 3) Run the Lion upgrade application to move your main system to OS X 10.7 Lion. 4) Install a new copy of Snow Leopard on the small partition and install the software you would like to run under Snow Leopard there. Now you can will boot into Lion by default but can boot into Snow Leopard by holding down the Option key. You can run Freehand and Photoshop CS2 by booting into Snow Leopard. There are a number of variations to the above. One is to put Snow Leopard on an external drive. If this is bootable (as described by Ronni below) you can boot into it by holding down the option key. Another variation is to use copy your original bootable Snow Leopard install back to the the small partition -- this, however, will likely require you to make your Snow Leopard install much smaller by deleting redundant files. Remember that while you may not be able run certain applications on both systems, all the data files of each operating system are visible to both operating systems, so there is not need to maintain two copies of your data files. One small complication is that you need to stop Spotlight from indexing both operating system application files. That is to say, if you use Spotlight to launch, say, Disk Utility (as I do), you don't want the Lion version showing up in Snow Leopard, and the Snow Leopard version showing up in Lion. This is solved by excluding the Snow Leopard Application file from within the Spotlight preferences on Lion, and excluding the Lion Application folder from within the Spotlight preferences on Snow Leopard. Cheers, Carlo On 2011-08-04, at 10:26, Ronda Brown wrote: On 04/08/2011, at 9:55 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: I need to continue using Macromedia Freehand MX and Photoshop CS2 in my work as I'm familiar with them but aware that OS Lion does not support them. Is it possible to run 10.6.8 from an external Drive (and use Lion on My computer Drive (iMac 27)? If so how does one select which OS to start up with? I have a fairly reasonable clue about this issue but would appreciate some Expert advice Thanks in advance! Hi Robert, I would suggest a better way is to do what I have done. I cloned my OS X 10.6.8 system using Super Duper (you can use Carbon Copy Cloner if you prefer) onto a bootable External FW Drive. Then purchased Lion OS X 10.7 from the App Store and installed Lion on an external FW Drive. This way I can boot into Lion for testing purposes before I decide if I want it on my main work MacBook Pro. By doing this, my work MBP is not being disturbed by any ‘glitches’ that I might find using Lion. You can use a USB External; Drive if you wish, I just prefer using FW drives (of which I have many ;-) Very important: You first must format the external drive in ‘GUID Partition Table’ Format: Mac OS Extended (journaled) otherwise you will not be able to boot from the drive. (If you require details how to format an external drive, please post back I’ll include instructions. Then when I find some time to do some testing of Lion I just: Connect the FW Drive to MBP Go to System Preferences Startup Disk (Under System) Click ’Startup Disk’ (it will now show both your OS X 10.6.8 HD your OS X 10.7 HD Select the OS X 10.7 HD Click ‘Resart’ Your computer will restart into Lion. When you have finished testing Lion out, just restart back into OS X 10.6.8 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard OS X 10.7 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives -
OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
I need to continue using Macromedia Freehand MX and Photoshop CS2 in my work as I'm familiar with them but aware that OS Lion does not support them. Is it possible to run 10.6.8 from an external Drive (and use Lion on My computer Drive (iMac 27)? If so how does one select which OS to start up with? I have a fairly reasonable clue about this issue but would appreciate some Expert advice Thanks in advance! Robert Miller-Eves bobme...@highway1.com.au Mobile - 0411618793 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: OS 10.6.8/OS Lion Question
On 04/08/2011, at 9:55 AM, Robert Miller-Eves wrote: I need to continue using Macromedia Freehand MX and Photoshop CS2 in my work as I'm familiar with them but aware that OS Lion does not support them. Is it possible to run 10.6.8 from an external Drive (and use Lion on My computer Drive (iMac 27)? If so how does one select which OS to start up with? I have a fairly reasonable clue about this issue but would appreciate some Expert advice Thanks in advance! Hi Robert, I would suggest a better way is to do what I have done. I cloned my OS X 10.6.8 system using Super Duper (you can use Carbon Copy Cloner if you prefer) onto a bootable External FW Drive. Then purchased Lion OS X 10.7 from the App Store and installed Lion on an external FW Drive. This way I can boot into Lion for testing purposes before I decide if I want it on my main work MacBook Pro. By doing this, my work MBP is not being disturbed by any ‘glitches’ that I might find using Lion. You can use a USB External; Drive if you wish, I just prefer using FW drives (of which I have many ;-) Very important: You first must format the external drive in ‘GUID Partition Table’ Format: Mac OS Extended (journaled) otherwise you will not be able to boot from the drive. (If you require details how to format an external drive, please post back I’ll include instructions. Then when I find some time to do some testing of Lion I just: Connect the FW Drive to MBP Go to System Preferences Startup Disk (Under System) Click ’Startup Disk’ (it will now show both your OS X 10.6.8 HD your OS X 10.7 HD Select the OS X 10.7 HD Click ‘Resart’ Your computer will restart into Lion. When you have finished testing Lion out, just restart back into OS X 10.6.8 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard OS X 10.7 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
