Re: Telstra Internet Calling
If it were me I'd refuse to be part of any trial of technology that is vendor dependent. I'd request that they support only open standards available to all platforms. It may use VoIP but Microsoft Passport indeed! You'd have to have rocks in your head to rely on Microsoft providing any security for anything. Looks like Telstra jumping further into bed with M$ so that M$ can control more of the universe. On Monday, April 22, 2002, at 02:52 , Brett Carboni wrote: Hi all, I've been selected to take part in a voice over internet trial. I'd like to participate but am dubious as to whether they have the technology set up for Macs. (They rarely do). Also, I found this in the fine print 3 Technology 3.1 You must have Internet access, have a valid Microsoft Passport, have installed the latest version of Microsoft Messenger either by loading Microsoft XP onto your computer or downloading the Messenger Session Initiated Protocol Client software from the Microsoft download site. It is available for Windows 95, 98, NT4, 2000 and ME. But why would they have sent this to me, being registered as a Mac user. Is there another way? I would like to participate. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Warren Jones http://homepage.mac.com/warrenj/ Parkwood, Western Australia
Re: TELSTRA BILLING ACCESS Now available to Mac
At 16:11 +0800 6/3/02, Andrew Nielsen wrote: Why indeed? Even the banks (those most-conservative of institutions) have managed to have online access to systems with security levels that they're comfortable with by using Internet standards and without resorting to certificates. You'd think with a profit of $2bn announced today that Telstra could manage something similar. Why would anyone expect that from Telstra. Heck, my BigPond internet access stuff can't even be paid online! But better yet, when you phone the payment number, as you finish the payment it plays an advert for online payment that I can't even use and I have to listen to before it tells me which number to press to pay another bill (because of course the BigPond internet bill is seperate from the FastPath connection bill, sigh). Peter. -- http://www.interarchy.com/ ftp://ftp.interarchy.com/interarchy.hqx
Re: TELSTRA BILLING ACCESS Now available to Mac
At 15:29 +0800 06/03/2002, Bob Howells wrote: SO, IF you are a Telstra customer you can get access. GO TO http://telstra.com and look on the front page for WHY JOIN Why indeed? Even the banks (those most-conservative of institutions) have managed to have online access to systems with security levels that they're comfortable with by using Internet standards and without resorting to certificates. You'd think with a profit of $2bn announced today that Telstra could manage something similar. I'm not a Telstra customer any more, and have had access to online billing information from my provider for a while now. -- Andrew Nielsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Starfish Technologies Pty Ltd http://www.starfish.net.au/ ACN 076 426 714 / ABN 49 426 849 601 Tel: 0500 555 677 Consultants in Unix, Mac OS, Windows networking technologies RIP Spike Milligan - the last of the Goons, the end of an era
Re: Telstra Broadband
On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 03:36 AM, Bob wrote: Although long overdue, it is pleasing to read that Telstra broadband support staff are to receive training about OSX from Apple. Don't quite know what this article is on about. I have been using Telstra broadband in MacOS X since I0.0 was released with absolutely no problems whatsoever. It's nice to know that Telstra staff will receive training, but it's hard to know just how extensive this will need to be. Perhaps the main thrust will be to cure them of thinking in Windows. -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Telstra ADSL and Cable Broadband gossip
Leaked: New Telstra Broadband Pricing * All cable-based plans (residential and business) will become full speed, Subscribers will see their monthly fee rise as much as $20, if they were previously eligable for the loyalty discount. BigPond users who are no longer on their contract should seriously consider changing their ISP. The references for alternate ISP's were only for ADSL ( at least 1/2 were not for West Australia). For *Cable*, is there an alternative ISP (Western Australia)? I'm thinking of renegotiating all my phone lines for Tsunami, chefs, manager, personal etc, but I don't want to get stuck with any increases after I've finished. All in all, I'm pretty happy with cable (I'm sure Peter H would agree) and don't ever want to go back to dialup. Pity the 3Gb cap stops you doing neat things like listen to internet radio with iTunes for long times. I use most of the 3 Gb and constantly have to monitor it. Brett Carboni Tsunami
Re: Telstra OnRamp Home Highway
Hi Doug, I have used Telstra Home Highway and have found it to be a very cost effective product. The throughput when connected by the ISDN side of it isnt as good as true ISDN due to the overheads of the HH, but is still quite fast and stable. When connected by a modem over it, you will find your connection speeds should improve. I havent had any experience with either the DOV or the Mac side of HH. These links may help you out though: Traverse Technologies are an Australian manufacturer of HH DOV equipment, and I have heard good things about them. Having a quick look, the NETspider-SX model looks like it may suit you, as it works on any operating system that supports an analog modem. It does look a little limited in its features, but I havent come across any other mac compatible ones. http://www.traverse.com.au/Australia/html/products.html Also, for other readers who may not know about DOV or HH, Traverse also have a little writeup about it at: http://www.traverse.com.au/Australia/html/dov.html Of course, your ISP needs to be able/want to accept a DOV connection. A list of some ISP's who accept DOV connections are on the Traverse page. However, I know that there are quite a few in Perth which do DOV, but are not on that page, so it may pay to ask the ISP you are with currently if they support it. Regards Trevor Lee --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using this? Are there any ISDN modems with Mac drivers on the market that do Data over Voice? -- Prozac-Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.
Re: Telstra OnRamp Home Highway
on 11/14/01 4:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Doug, I have used Telstra Home Highway and have found it to be a very cost effective product. The throughput when connected by the ISDN side of it isnt as good as true ISDN due to the overheads of the HH, but is still quite fast and stable. When connected by a modem over it, you will find your connection speeds should improve. Thanks Trevor, your response is exactly what I was hoping for. An informed opinion of someone using the product. I havent had any experience with either the DOV or the Mac side of HH. These links may help you out though: Traverse Technologies are an Australian manufacturer of HH DOV equipment, and I have heard good things about them. Having a quick look, the NETspider-SX model looks like it may suit you, as it works on any operating system that supports an analog modem. It does look a little limited in its features, but I havent come across any other mac compatible ones. http://www.traverse.com.au/Australia/html/products.html I've not only been to their web site but I've also had them on the phone today. They are extremely helpful and were able to answer questions about not only the ISDN side of the equation (including specific Data Over Voice questions I had) but also suggestions on hardware and software configurations for equipment I already had which will save me some money setting this whole thing up. It was nice that they didn't try to sell me another setup and even pointed me in the direction of free software for my router box. Now for the bad news for most people on the list. There are no ISDN solutions for the Mac currently that support DOV which means if you are a Mac only person or shop you'll end up paying the $1.10 per minute charge instead of the 19.8 cent charge for the untimed voice call. I'm lucky that I've got an old Pentium box that I can set up Smoothwall Linux on. Also, for other readers who may not know about DOV or HH, Traverse also have a little writeup about it at: http://www.traverse.com.au/Australia/html/dov.html Excellent FAQ for the basics. Of course, your ISP needs to be able/want to accept a DOV connection. A list of some ISP's who accept DOV connections are on the Traverse page. However, I know that there are quite a few in Perth which do DOV, but are not on that page, so it may pay to ask the ISP you are with currently if they support it. Regards Trevor Lee Unfortunately iiNet does not support Data over Voice connections. I was kind of upset about that since they've generally been a good ISP for me for the last three years. After a bit of research I've decided to go with Arachnet http://www.arachnet.com.au. If anyone else has any questions about Onramp Home Highway or using Data over Voice on the service check out the relevant pages on the Telstra site and the FAQ mentioned above. There is an opportunity for some pretty decent savings compared to iiNet or Telstra Broadband offerings and with Arachnet at least there are literally no download limits. -- Do pediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays?
Re: Telstra Online Billing
Yes, I was successful the second time I tryed. I use Netscape 4.7? on OS9.2= . I use it to see how much of my plan I have used during a month. Works wel= l once it's up and running. Some points to note: You cannot use Explorer! (IE doesn't support digital certificates) After failing to sign-up the first time (and any subsequent time), you ne= ed to phone the help line to get telstra to cancel your attempt and issue yo= u a new pin for a new digital certificate. When using Online Billing, DO NOT click on the BACK button on your browser at any time. (This might apply to any time you are using a digital = certificate). Patience is a virtue - can be slow, even when it works. Cheers Travis --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Pennefather [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Has anyone had success in signing up to Telstra's online billing at www.telstra.com.au/billing ? I have tried numerous times without success. I tried under OS 9 (.04, .1= , .2.1) using IE 5, Netscape 4.75 and 6.1 and OS X 10.1 IE5, Netscape 6. I= just can't get the digital certificate required. Any help appreciated. Cheers Greg
Re: Telstra Online Billing
Hi All Has anyone had success in signing up to Telstra's online billing at www.telstra.com.au/billing ? I have tried numerous times without success. I tried under OS 9 (.04, .1, .2.1) using IE 5, Netscape 4.75 and 6.1 and OS X 10.1 IE5, Netscape 6. I just can't get the digital certificate required. Any help appreciated. I did manage to get it working eventually with Netscape Navigator 4.08 under Classic, but it's such a pain to have to launch a different browser just to read a specific page that it's hardly worthwhile. Telstra... Making it easy for you Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Telstra Online Billing
Thanks Shay Cheers Greg on 22/10/01 1:31 PM, Shay Telfer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All Has anyone had success in signing up to Telstra's online billing at www.telstra.com.au/billing ? I have tried numerous times without success. I tried under OS 9 (.04, .1, .2.1) using IE 5, Netscape 4.75 and 6.1 and OS X 10.1 IE5, Netscape 6. I just can't get the digital certificate required. Any help appreciated. I did manage to get it working eventually with Netscape Navigator 4.08 under Classic, but it's such a pain to have to launch a different browser just to read a specific page that it's hardly worthwhile. Telstra... Making it easy for you Have fun, Shay
Re: Telstra Online Billing
YES ! But, I had problems initially and as a consequence I keep a separate Netscape user for access to Telstra. They supply a Security certificate which resides in the Browser user Preferences. Note : Only Netscape , as Explorer is NOT available for Mac. I am using Netscape 4.74 but any 4.7 version should be ok. ( OS 8.6 on a 7300/200 ) If you have trouble registering on the Net you can do it by phone, after that you get emails etc to set up the Security certificate. It's long winded and I really don't see why they use that way for security when the banks can do it so much easier. Bob H Greg Pennefather wrote: Hi All Has anyone had success in signing up to Telstra's online billing at www.telstra.com.au/billing ? I have tried numerous times without success. I tried under OS 9 (.04, .1, .2.1) using IE 5, Netscape 4.75 and 6.1 and OS X 10.1 IE5, Netscape 6. I just can't get the digital certificate required. Any help appreciated. Cheers Greg Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Telstra Online Billing
I think that Telstra are using the same PR and programming people as NAB. I have been trying to use this for some time now. They just don't make it easy. By the time you receive your digital certificate, you've forgotten why you applied for it then if you're unfortunate enough to remember, you go on the dubious track of going through the registration of your computer. I think they have designed this process to deter as many people as possible from using this facility. BTW don't upgrade your browser cos you'll lose everything and then when you ask their help line why, they'll say didn't you keep your original pin number to access the digital certificate in a holier than thou fashion. If all this sounds too hard you're probably right! Brett Curtis Ellenbrook, Western Australia From: Greg Pennefather [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:20:44 +0800 To: WAMUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Telstra Online Billing Hi All Has anyone had success in signing up to Telstra's online billing at www.telstra.com.au/billing ? I have tried numerous times without success. I tried under OS 9 (.04, .1, ..2.1) using IE 5, Netscape 4.75 and 6.1 and OS X 10.1 IE5, Netscape 6. I just can't get the digital certificate required. Any help appreciated. Cheers Greg Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Telstra Online Billing
Yes I've had dramas with Telstra online billing too. After much grief wondering why the graphs functions doesn't work I was told by Telstra that its not compatible with Macintosh. Cheers Colin From: Bob Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:58:33 +0800 To: wamug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Telstra Online Billing YES ! But, I had problems initially and as a consequence I keep a separate Netscape user for access to Telstra. They supply a Security certificate which resides in the Browser user Preferences. Note : Only Netscape , as Explorer is NOT available for Mac. I am using Netscape 4.74 but any 4.7 version should be ok. ( OS 8.6 on a 7300/200 ) If you have trouble registering on the Net you can do it by phone, after that you get emails etc to set up the Security certificate. It's long winded and I really don't see why they use that way for security when the banks can do it so much easier. Bob H Greg Pennefather wrote: Hi All Has anyone had success in signing up to Telstra's online billing at www.telstra.com.au/billing ? I have tried numerous times without success. I tried under OS 9 (.04, .1, .2.1) using IE 5, Netscape 4.75 and 6.1 and OS X 10.1 IE5, Netscape 6. I just can't get the digital certificate required. Any help appreciated. Cheers Greg Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
