Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

Just fixed that, thanks!

//Ed

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Fae  wrote:
> It makes the trends page unreadable. Could you add a white underlay to
> the tabulated text so it does not become obscured by a changing
> unpredictable background?
>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Fae]

It makes the trends page unreadable. Could you add a white underlay to
the tabulated text so it does not become obscured by a changing
unpredictable background?

Cheers,
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

This thread is pretty old, and what I'm going to say is hardly
research worthy, but I thought I'd mention that I recently made the
wikistream background image change based on uploads to the Wikimedia
Commons :-)

http://wikistream.inkdroid.org/

If you try it out you might have to wait for a moment for a Commons
upload to trigger the background to change from the default white.

//Ed

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Jodi Schneider  wrote:
> The trending articles are really nice, Ed! It would be nice to add tooltips
> for the bot/person/(whatever the red things are) icons; those icon-based
> filters are a nice addition!
> -Jodi
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just a quick heads up to let you know I added some statistics
>> gathering to wikistream.inkdroid.org for displaying "trending"
>> articles. Trending articles are just articles ranked by how many times
>> they were edited in the current hour or day (relative to GMT). I added
>> similar stats for editors and bots. Since I just deployed the code,
>> the numbers for today aren't complete, but they should be going
>> forward.
>>
>> I wanted to store the stats from the past hour and past 24 hours using
>> a rolling window. But this proved trickier (for me) to do w/ the Redis
>> backend that I was already using for streaming the updates (pub/sub).
>> It should be possible, but I thought I would make a start, and see if
>> it was worth the extra effort. Let me know what you think, if anything
>> comes to mind.
>>
>> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Dmitry Chichkov]

Just verified, it is back up. And actual changes are also coming through
[filtered by negative user ratings (calculated using some pretty old
wikipedia dump)].

-- Best, Dmitry

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Dmitry Chichkov wrote:

> Hmm... Somebody actually visited the site. Interesting. I've been running
> it over a year and I haven't seen the thing used much.
> Looks like it was only some weird IP change, I've updated the DNS. So it
> should be back up pretty soon.
>
> Anyway the main point was to show some alternative implementation/ideas.
> And by the way source code is available here
> http://code.google.com/p/wrdese/ it's a very lightweight Django/JQuery
> project and can be tweaked fairly easily...
>
> -- Best, Dmitry
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) 
> wrote:
>
>> Ed Summers, 22/06/2011 12:14:
>> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov  wrote:
>> >> You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays
>> realtime
>> >> stream (filtered)...
>> >
>> > Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-)
>>
>> Looks like the opposite happened.
>>
>> Nemo
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Dmitry Chichkov]

Hmm... Somebody actually visited the site. Interesting. I've been running it
over a year and I haven't seen the thing used much.
Looks like it was only some weird IP change, I've updated the DNS. So it
should be back up pretty soon.

Anyway the main point was to show some alternative implementation/ideas. And
by the way source code is available here
http://code.google.com/p/wrdese/it's a very lightweight Django/JQuery
project and can be tweaked fairly
easily...

-- Best, Dmitry

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote:

> Ed Summers, 22/06/2011 12:14:
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov  wrote:
> >> You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays
> realtime
> >> stream (filtered)...
> >
> > Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-)
>
> Looks like the opposite happened.
>
> Nemo
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Ed Summers, 22/06/2011 12:14:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov  wrote:
>> You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime
>> stream (filtered)...
>
> Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-)

Looks like the opposite happened.

Nemo

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Jodi Schneider]

The trending articles are really nice, Ed! It would be nice to add tooltips
for the bot/person/(whatever the red things are) icons; those icon-based
filters are a nice addition!

-Jodi

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Ed Summers  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just a quick heads up to let you know I added some statistics
> gathering to wikistream.inkdroid.org for displaying "trending"
> articles. Trending articles are just articles ranked by how many times
> they were edited in the current hour or day (relative to GMT). I added
> similar stats for editors and bots. Since I just deployed the code,
> the numbers for today aren't complete, but they should be going
> forward.
>
> I wanted to store the stats from the past hour and past 24 hours using
> a rolling window. But this proved trickier (for me) to do w/ the Redis
> backend that I was already using for streaming the updates (pub/sub).
> It should be possible, but I thought I would make a start, and see if
> it was worth the extra effort. Let me know what you think, if anything
> comes to mind.
>
> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

Hi all,

Just a quick heads up to let you know I added some statistics
gathering to wikistream.inkdroid.org for displaying "trending"
articles. Trending articles are just articles ranked by how many times
they were edited in the current hour or day (relative to GMT). I added
similar stats for editors and bots. Since I just deployed the code,
the numbers for today aren't complete, but they should be going
forward.

I wanted to store the stats from the past hour and past 24 hours using
a rolling window. But this proved trickier (for me) to do w/ the Redis
backend that I was already using for streaming the updates (pub/sub).
It should be possible, but I thought I would make a start, and see if
it was worth the extra effort. Let me know what you think, if anything
comes to mind.

//Ed

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Dmitry Chichkov  wrote:
> You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime
> stream (filtered)...

Oh wow, maybe I can shut mine off now :-)

//Ed

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Dmitry Chichkov]

You may want to take a look at the wpcvn.com - it also displays realtime
stream (filtered)...

Best, Dmitry
On Jun 21, 2011 10:25 PM, "Ed Summers"  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Dario Taraborelli
>  wrote:
>> min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still
there in all three browsers
>
> Ok I made the deltaControl a bit bigger. It looks fine in my Chrome
> and Firefox (on Linux). If it is still a problem for you could I twist
> your arm into opening a ticket with the details of what browser/OS you
> are using, so we don't bug everyone on the list with my lack of CSS
> chops? :-)
>
> https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues
>
> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Dario Taraborelli
 wrote:
> min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still there in 
> all three browsers

Ok I made the deltaControl a bit bigger. It looks fine in my Chrome
and Firefox (on Linux). If it is still a problem for you could I twist
your arm into opening a ticket with the details of what browser/OS you
are using, so we don't bug everyone on the list with my lack of CSS
chops? :-)

https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues

//Ed

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Dario Taraborelli]

>> - you should probably set a min-width for the control panel
>> - when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no 
>> matter how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS)
> 
> Hmm, is this still the case? I fixed the width of the #controls to
> 650px. Hopefully that'll prevent that behavior.

min-width now works as expected, but the wrapped text issue is still there in 
all three browsers

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Dario Taraborelli
 wrote:
> - there's a typo in the dropdown menu (All Wikpedias)

fixed, thanks!

> - you should probably set a min-width for the control panel
> - when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no 
> matter how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS)

Hmm, is this still the case? I fixed the width of the #controls to
650px. Hopefully that'll prevent that behavior.

> - there is no legend explaining how the diff size is measured (I know it's 
> trivial, but it would be helpful for people who are not familiar with 
> Wikipedia)

Yes, good idea, I guess I've got some real estate for that.

> - for RTL languages (Arabic, Hebrew) the diff size is displayed incorrectly 
> in Safari (it's appended to the left and, when negative, the minus sign is 
> wrongly positioned)

Thanks, I'm not quite sure how to fix that. But I'll add it to the RTL
ticket that is already in GitHub.

https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues/6

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Dario Taraborelli]

Ed, 

nice job. Some minor glitches you may want to fix:

- there's a typo in the dropdown menu (All Wikpedias)
- you should probably set a min-width for the control panel
- when I move the slide to values greater than 0 the text is wrapped, no matter 
how large my browser window is (tested in FF/Safari/Chrome on Mac OS)
- there is no legend explaining how the diff size is measured (I know it's 
trivial, but it would be helpful for people who are not familiar with Wikipedia)
- for RTL languages (Arabic, Hebrew) the diff size is displayed incorrectly in 
Safari (it's appended to the left and, when negative, the minus sign is wrongly 
positioned)

HTH

Dario

On Jun 21, 2011, at 9:19 PM, Ed Summers wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions all (keep them coming). I added the ability
> to filter by language, as well by whether the edit was by a logged in
> user, an anonymous (IP) user, or a bot. I'm not completely happy with
> the icons I chose so if you know of any better ones please let me
> know.
> 
>http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
> 
> //Ed
> 
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>> Hi Jodi,
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Jodi Schneider  
>> wrote:
>>> It would be really interesting to have these visualizations for other
>>> projects (e.g. wikisource, wikiquote, ...). -Jodi
>> 
>> Yes, absolutely. Do you happen to know if their IRC logs are roughly
>> the same as the main language wikipedias? Another good candidate for
>> adding to the Issue tracker if you have time to note it down.
>> 
>> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

Thanks for the suggestions all (keep them coming). I added the ability
to filter by language, as well by whether the edit was by a logged in
user, an anonymous (IP) user, or a bot. I'm not completely happy with
the icons I chose so if you know of any better ones please let me
know.

http://wikistream.inkdroid.org

//Ed

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> Hi Jodi,
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Jodi Schneider  wrote:
>> It would be really interesting to have these visualizations for other
>> projects (e.g. wikisource, wikiquote, ...). -Jodi
>
> Yes, absolutely. Do you happen to know if their IRC logs are roughly
> the same as the main language wikipedias? Another good candidate for
> adding to the Issue tracker if you have time to note it down.
>
> //Ed
>

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

Hi Jodi,

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Jodi Schneider  wrote:
> It would be really interesting to have these visualizations for other
> projects (e.g. wikisource, wikiquote, ...). -Jodi

Yes, absolutely. Do you happen to know if their IRC logs are roughly
the same as the main language wikipedias? Another good candidate for
adding to the Issue tracker if you have time to note it down.

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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

Hi Jyothis,

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Jyothis E  wrote:
> Can we plan for a few filter options for name spaces, time zones,  IP edits
> vs non IP edits, for IP edits, may be geolocation based IP activism on a
> mao, Also may be languages grouped by continent (may be tie with timezone)
> etc?

Yes, great ideas! Definitely add these ideas in the Issue tracker [1]
if you get a chance.

//Ed

[1] https://github.com/edsu/wikistream/issues

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[Jodi Schneider]

It would be really interesting to have these visualizations for other
projects (e.g. wikisource, wikiquote, ...). -Jodi

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Jyothis E  wrote:

> Ed,
>
> Can we plan for a few filter options for name spaces, time zones,  IP edits
> vs non IP edits, for IP edits, may be geolocation based IP activism on a
> mao, Also may be languages grouped by continent (may be tie with timezone)
> etc?
>
> Regards,
> Jyothis.
>
> http://www.Jyothis.net
>
> My Malayalam Wikipedia page 
> Metawiki page 
> I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com
> My toolserver tools 
>
> woods are lovely dark and deep,
> but i have promises to keep and
> miles to go before i sleep and
> *lines to go before I press sleep*
>
> completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) /
> resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>> > Ed -- Nice.  To be clear, I would still appreciate a multi-column
>> > look, because for me that is a much clearer visualization of the
>> > site's activity than looking at any single edit-size-range.  It's like
>> > a sparkline: you can get both a sense of flow and a feel for the
>> > texture in the dimension of significance.
>>
>> Understood. I'm just not sure I want to make the display that
>> complicated at this point. The code is there for you to use as you
>> wish though.
>>
>>
>> > Reverts could show up as a thin red line between two edits, extending
>> > to the side with the word "rv", with the article title available on
>> > mouseover.
>>
>> Do you have a sense of the mechanics of identifying reverts? Do they
>> show up in an identifiable way in the IRC logs?
>>
>> //Ed
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[Jyothis E]

Ed,

Can we plan for a few filter options for name spaces, time zones,  IP edits
vs non IP edits, for IP edits, may be geolocation based IP activism on a
mao, Also may be languages grouped by continent (may be tie with timezone)
etc?

Regards,
Jyothis.

http://www.Jyothis.net

My Malayalam Wikipedia page 
Metawiki page 
I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com
My toolserver tools 

woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
*lines to go before I press sleep*

completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources)
+ ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings



On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Ed Summers  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> > Ed -- Nice.  To be clear, I would still appreciate a multi-column
> > look, because for me that is a much clearer visualization of the
> > site's activity than looking at any single edit-size-range.  It's like
> > a sparkline: you can get both a sense of flow and a feel for the
> > texture in the dimension of significance.
>
> Understood. I'm just not sure I want to make the display that
> complicated at this point. The code is there for you to use as you
> wish though.
>
>
> > Reverts could show up as a thin red line between two edits, extending
> > to the side with the word "rv", with the article title available on
> > mouseover.
>
> Do you have a sense of the mechanics of identifying reverts? Do they
> show up in an identifiable way in the IRC logs?
>
> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Joe Corneli]

Another crazy idea: bullet-time on mouseover.  Not sure how that would
work, but the damn thing moves too fast!  (Good job everybody.)

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[Joe Corneli]

Options: Show summary lines and time of edit.

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[Samuel Klein]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Ed Summers  wrote:

>> Reverts could show up as a thin red line between two edits, extending
>> to the side with the word "rv", with the article title available on
>> mouseover.
>
> Do you have a sense of the mechanics of identifying reverts? Do they
> show up in an identifiable way in the IRC logs?

There are a few types of reverts.
Some have "rv" or "rvv" or "revert" [or equivalent in the appropriate
language] in the edit summary, undoing 1 edit
Some are (-N) changes immediately after a (+N) change, with some other
edit summary
A combination of the above rolling back multiple edits.  Here (-N) is
larger than the previous (+M)

The first group can be identified with few false positives - and the
-N/+N character-change used for confirmation.

S.

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[Ed Summers]

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> Ed -- Nice.  To be clear, I would still appreciate a multi-column
> look, because for me that is a much clearer visualization of the
> site's activity than looking at any single edit-size-range.  It's like
> a sparkline: you can get both a sense of flow and a feel for the
> texture in the dimension of significance.

Understood. I'm just not sure I want to make the display that
complicated at this point. The code is there for you to use as you
wish though.


> Reverts could show up as a thin red line between two edits, extending
> to the side with the word "rv", with the article title available on
> mouseover.

Do you have a sense of the mechanics of identifying reverts? Do they
show up in an identifiable way in the IRC logs?

//Ed

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[Samuel Klein]

Ed -- Nice.  To be clear, I would still appreciate a multi-column
look, because for me that is a much clearer visualization of the
site's activity than looking at any single edit-size-range.  It's like
a sparkline: you can get both a sense of flow and a feel for the
texture in the dimension of significance.

In fact, for the larger edits it might make sense to include 40 chars
of text from the update on a second line.

Reverts could show up as a thin red line between two edits, extending
to the side with the word "rv", with the article title available on
mouseover.

SJ

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> Hi SJ,
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
>> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
>> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
>> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
>> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
>> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
>> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>
> I am trying out a slider that allows you to set an "edit size" limit,
> which should achieve roughly the same thing without the need for
> additional columns. I haven't done any checking for pages that are
> immediately reverted though (yet).
>
> When I have time next I want to highlight the bots differently, maybe
> with a small robot icon (let me know if you know of one), and allow
> them to be filtered. Also I want to add language filtering since
> several people have asked for that. I'm not quite sure how to do the
> right-to-left for (ar,fa, ur, and he) since this basically right
> justifies things, and it's mixed in with other direction text. Ideas
> welcome on that front.
>
> //Ed
>
> PS. I'm having some issues keeping the service running. At the moment
> I'm not sure if its a bug in my code or something lower level in
> socket.io, express or node just yet...
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[Ed Summers]

Hi SJ,

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.

I am trying out a slider that allows you to set an "edit size" limit,
which should achieve roughly the same thing without the need for
additional columns. I haven't done any checking for pages that are
immediately reverted though (yet).

When I have time next I want to highlight the bots differently, maybe
with a small robot icon (let me know if you know of one), and allow
them to be filtered. Also I want to add language filtering since
several people have asked for that. I'm not quite sure how to do the
right-to-left for (ar,fa, ur, and he) since this basically right
justifies things, and it's mixed in with other direction text. Ideas
welcome on that front.

//Ed

PS. I'm having some issues keeping the service running. At the moment
I'm not sure if its a bug in my code or something lower level in
socket.io, express or node just yet...

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[Piotr Konieczny]

Ed Summers wrote:
> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> wikipedias in real time:
>
>  http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>
> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
> strategy.
>
> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.

Nice, I certainly agree it is a good "screensaver" for public 
presentations and such.

Feature request: ability to select feed from only some wikis (for 
example, En Wikipedia only, or Pl Wikipedia only).


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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Samuel Klein]

Fancy options:

- Choose individual Projects [just look at wiktionary, for instance]
- Choose a color scheme or audio scheme to go with it [ rcbirds comes
to mind :) ]
- Add small languages
- Include or ignore bots, period

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Congratulations; the next step would be to let choose which language
> versions (or other Wikimedia projects) you want to have included?
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> 2011/6/16 fox :
>> Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto:
>>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>>> wikipedias in real time
>>
>>
>> It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that
>> data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been
>> edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format).
>>
>> Good job ;)
>>
>> --
>> f.
>>
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>>  (Dr. Sheldon Cooper, PhD)
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Goran Milovanovic]

This is  a b s o l u t e l y  amazing.

Cheers,
Goran

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Congratulations; the next step would be to let choose which language
> versions (or other Wikimedia projects) you want to have included?
>
> Kind regards
> Ziko
>
> 2011/6/16 fox :
> > Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto:
> >> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> >> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> >> wikipedias in real time
> >
> >
> > It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that
> > data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been
> > edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format).
> >
> > Good job ;)
> >
> > --
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> >
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> >  (Dr. Sheldon Cooper, PhD)
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[Ziko van Dijk]

Hello,

Congratulations; the next step would be to let choose which language
versions (or other Wikimedia projects) you want to have included?

Kind regards
Ziko

2011/6/16 fox :
> Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto:
>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>> wikipedias in real time
>
>
> It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that
> data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been
> edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format).
>
> Good job ;)
>
> --
> f.
>
>  "I didn't try, I succeeded"
>  (Dr. Sheldon Cooper, PhD)
>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[fox]

Il 16/06/2011 06:40, Ed Summers ha scritto:
> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> wikipedias in real time


It's really nice, i think that would be great having an API to use that
data for other web apps (for example to get the last page that has been
edited from the english wikipedia in JSON or XML format).

Good job ;)

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[R.Stuart Geiger]

Yes, this is amazing, thanks for making it!  It's great that it shows
bot edits in a different color, as most people just tend to filter
them out.  This definitely will be my go-to visualization for
presentations, both about Wikipedia generally and about bots.

Stuart Geiger

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Sage Ross  wrote:
> Really solid!  This looks like the new go-to visualization for demonstrating
> the pace of changes on Wikipedia.
>
> One feature you might consider adding to it would be the option to
> just see the stream from one language.
>
> Another thing that would be good, in my opinion, would be to replace
> the flags with something like color-coded language abbreviations: en,
> de, and so on.
>
> Thanks much for this. I've already added it to the Wikimedia Education
> Portal as a resource that teachers can use for getting students
> excited about Wikipedia when they are running Wikipedia assignments in
> class.
>
> -Sage Ross
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>> Wow, thanks Ward. You made my professional career :-)
>>
>> Major props to node.js, redis and socket.io.  I really just put the
>> lego pieces together. It feels like the tools are getting better and
>> better some days. (he says as he tunes the TCP stack on his little
>> linode VPN to keep up with the traffic ...)
>>
>> //Ed
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ward Cunningham  wrote:
>>> I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to 
>>> quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I 
>>> ever did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed 
>>> for sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my 
>>> morning. -- Ward
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote:
>>>
 Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of
 characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3
 column display could work.

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>
> SJ
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>> wikipedias in real time:
>>
>>    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>>
>> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
>> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
>> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
>> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
>> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
>> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
>> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
>> strategy.
>>
>> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about 
>> wikistream.
>>
>> //Ed
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[Sage Ross]

Really solid!  This looks like the new go-to visualization for demonstrating
the pace of changes on Wikipedia.

One feature you might consider adding to it would be the option to
just see the stream from one language.

Another thing that would be good, in my opinion, would be to replace
the flags with something like color-coded language abbreviations: en,
de, and so on.

Thanks much for this. I've already added it to the Wikimedia Education
Portal as a resource that teachers can use for getting students
excited about Wikipedia when they are running Wikipedia assignments in
class.

-Sage Ross

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> Wow, thanks Ward. You made my professional career :-)
>
> Major props to node.js, redis and socket.io.  I really just put the
> lego pieces together. It feels like the tools are getting better and
> better some days. (he says as he tunes the TCP stack on his little
> linode VPN to keep up with the traffic ...)
>
> //Ed
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ward Cunningham  wrote:
>> I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to 
>> quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I 
>> ever did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed 
>> for sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my 
>> morning. -- Ward
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote:
>>
>>> Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of
>>> characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3
>>> column display could work.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
 Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
 three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
 with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
 out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
 immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
 edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
 (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.

 SJ


 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> wikipedias in real time:
>
>    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>
> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
> strategy.
>
> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>
> //Ed
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[Ed Summers]

Wow, thanks Ward. You made my professional career :-)

Major props to node.js, redis and socket.io.  I really just put the
lego pieces together. It feels like the tools are getting better and
better some days. (he says as he tunes the TCP stack on his little
linode VPN to keep up with the traffic ...)

//Ed

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Ward Cunningham  wrote:
> I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to 
> quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I 
> ever did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed for 
> sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my morning. 
> -- Ward
>
>
> On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote:
>
>> Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of
>> characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3
>> column display could work.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>>> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
>>> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
>>> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
>>> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
>>> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
>>> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
>>> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>>>
>>> SJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
 I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
 little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
 wikipedias in real time:

    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org

 Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
 sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
 Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
 interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
 activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
 bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
 the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
 strategy.

 Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.

 //Ed

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[Ward Cunningham]

I've written this app several times using technology from text-to-speech to 
quartz-composer. I have to tip my hat to Ed for doing a better job than I ever 
did and doing it in a way that he makes look effortless. Kudos to Ed for 
sharing both the page and the software that produces it. You made my morning. 
-- Ward


On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Ed Summers wrote:

> Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of
> characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3
> column display could work.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
>> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
>> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
>> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
>> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
>> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
>> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>> 
>> SJ
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>>> wikipedias in real time:
>>> 
>>>http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>>> 
>>> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
>>> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
>>> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
>>> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
>>> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
>>> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
>>> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
>>> strategy.
>>> 
>>> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>>> 
>>> //Ed
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[Ed Summers]

Actually re-reading this again, I definitely can grab the number of
characters in the change from the IRC update ... something like this 3
column display could work.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>
> SJ
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>> wikipedias in real time:
>>
>>    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>>
>> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
>> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
>> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
>> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
>> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
>> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
>> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
>> strategy.
>>
>> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>>
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[lior gimel]

A separate column for bot edits could be nice too.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:

> Good ideas. Although I'm not sure how much of that I can glean from
> the IRC messages without starting to hammer on the Wikipedia APIs.
>
> //Ed
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> > I'd also like to see another layer of color-coding - background
> > shading based on some measure of wikitrust.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> >> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
> >> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
> >> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
> >> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
> >> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
> >> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
> >> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
> >>
> >> SJ
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> >>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> >>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> >>> wikipedias in real time:
> >>>
> >>>http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
> >>> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
> >>> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
> >>> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
> >>> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
> >>> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
> >>> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
> >>> strategy.
> >>>
> >>> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about
> wikistream.
> >>>
> >>> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

Good ideas. Although I'm not sure how much of that I can glean from
the IRC messages without starting to hammer on the Wikipedia APIs.

//Ed

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> I'd also like to see another layer of color-coding - background
> shading based on some measure of wikitrust.
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
>> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
>> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
>> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
>> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
>> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
>> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>>> wikipedias in real time:
>>>
>>>    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>>>
>>> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
>>> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
>>> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
>>> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
>>> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
>>> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
>>> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
>>> strategy.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>>>
>>> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Samuel Klein]

I'd also like to see another layer of color-coding - background
shading based on some measure of wikitrust.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
> Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
> three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
> with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
> out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
> immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
> edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
> (time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.
>
> SJ
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
>> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
>> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
>> wikipedias in real time:
>>
>>    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>>
>> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
>> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
>> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
>> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
>> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
>> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
>> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
>> strategy.
>>
>> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>>
>> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Samuel Klein]

Without changing the concept or algorithm much, I'd like to see a
three column version, with the left-most column being for all edits --
with speed smoothed out over time (time delay 30 seconds, average it
out); the middle one being edits changing over 100 chars that aren't
immediately reverted (time-delayed 1 min?), and the left column being
edits changing over 1,000 chars that aren't quickly reverted
(time-delayed 2 minutes?), and aren't by bots or huggle.

SJ


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:
> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> wikipedias in real time:
>
>    http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>
> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
> strategy.
>
> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>
> //Ed
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Re: [Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[lior gimel]

This is a great feature for public presentations, thanks for creating it.
I think a version that displays edit only updates from the English language
wikipedia could be a nice feature.
Lior


On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Ed Summers  wrote:

> I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
> little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
> wikipedias in real time:
>
>http://wikistream.inkdroid.org
>
> Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
> sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
> Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
> interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
> activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
> bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
> the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
> strategy.
>
> Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.
>
> //Ed
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[Wiki-research-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

[Ed Summers]

I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a
little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language
wikipedias in real time:

http://wikistream.inkdroid.org

Perhaps like you, I've often tried to convey to folks in the GLAM
sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) just how much
Wikipedia is actively edited. GLAM institutions are increasingly
interested in "digital curation" and I've sometimes displayed the IRC
activity at workshops to demonstrate the sheer number of people (and
bots) that are actively engaged in improving the content there...with
the hopes of making the Wikipedia platform part of their curation
strategy.

Anyhow, I'd be interested in any feedback you might have about wikistream.

//Ed

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