Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] New member

[Abbas Mahmood]

Yes, I just got his subscription notification. Welcome MacKenzie!
//Abbas.

Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 04:59:54 -0800
From: musyoka.mor...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: elmac...@gmail.com
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] New member

Hey everyone,
I hereby write to introduce someone who is really interested in joining this 
great team.
He is Mackenzie,from Moi university.I just send him the link,you guys will hear 
from him soon.
Good day.
Regards,

Morine.



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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Join The Discussion

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi,
I'm not quite sure I've understood what you're talking about.
Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that WMF is prioritizing Wikipedia 
Mobile. 
On mobile devices , many people go directly to wikipedia.org . 
Unfortunately, this shows the standard portal page of the globe and languages 
.
Errm, are you sure about this statement? My mobile phone automatically 
redirects to Wikipedia Mobile, which is in Beta currently. This Beta version 
has new features already, such as a drop-down feature for changing your 
language. 
//Abbas.

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 05:46:23 +0300
From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Join The Discussion

Hello,
I came across this on the project Wikipedia mobile, and I thought it's worth 
sharing.

---

On mobile devices , many people go directly to wikipedia.org . Unfortunately, 
this shows the standard portal page of the globe and languages . Everyone in 
the world currently sees the same page on their mobile device, and it is not so 
easy to read and navigate that page on a small screen.


What if we could show a country-

specific portal page automatically, based on the current location of the user?

The search interface would use the most-used language of that country, with 
secondary languages for that

country prominently displayed as

options.

In order to see how countries use languages, take a look here :

http://stats .wikimedia.org 
/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageViewsPerCountryBreakdown.htm

In some countries, the native

language is the primary version of Wikipedia that is used. Certainly that is 
true of all

English-speaking countries,

Germany, France, Spain, Japan, etc.

But there are more than 60 countries where English is not their native 
language, and yet English Wikipedia is the primary version. Usually the 
secondary version is the one in their

native language.

And in India , English may be the

common denominator, but all the Indic languages would be obvious choices.

Easily searching in one of those

languages could be so much more obvious. Viewing and typing in some languages 
can be an issue, of course.

What do you think of this idea? Give us your feedback so we can prioritize this 
project.

*** 
Regards,

Stephen
---Better late than never,but never late is better.---
iwanjau.WordPress.com



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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of Wikimedia Kenya - December 2011 - Meta

[Abbas Mahmood]

Ah, Oscar, hold your breath! The Board of Trustees is yet to pass a resolution. 
And that's when we'll be an official chapter.

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:04:20 +0300
From: oslim...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of Wikimedia 
Kenya - December 2011 - Meta

yey guys, we got a new year present from chapcom 

we got officialy recognizeexcited couodnt wait to get to a laptop to send 
so pardon typos

;-)

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Resolutions/Approval_of_Wikimedia_Kenya_-_December_2011



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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of Wikimedia Kenya - December 2011 - Meta

[Abbas Mahmood]

No, that's ChapCom's vote. It's a two-fold process: chapcom's approval then the 
Board's approval. We are still awaiting the Board to vote on this...

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:19:48 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of   
Wikimedia Kenya - December 2011 - Meta



















Actually, Abbas, the resolution has passed
already – 6 in favour, 0 opposed, 0 abstained.

So, it’s congrats indeed! (and no
holding of breaths J)

Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: Abbas Mahmood
[mailto:abbas...@hotmail.com] 

Sent: 11 January 2012 13:40

To:
wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval
of Wikimedia Kenya -
December 2011 - Meta



 



Ah, Oscar, hold your breath! The
Board of Trustees is yet to pass a resolution. And that's when we'll be an
official chapter.







Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:04:20 +0300

From: oslim...@gmail.com

To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya]
Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of Wikimedia Kenya
- December 2011 - Meta



yey guys, we got a new year present from chapcom 

we got officialy recognizeexcited couodnt wait to get to a laptop to send
so pardon typos

;-)

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee/Resolutions/Approval_of_Wikimedia_Kenya_-_December_2011



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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of Wikimedia Kenya - December 2011 - Meta

[Abbas Mahmood]

Branton,

The registration can not come before elections because we will need the Board 
Members to act as signatories when signing the certificate(s) of registration.

Once the Board is elected, I will also forward their names to be added to the 
Wikimedia Chapters mailing list.

Warmly,
Abbas. 

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:32:28 +0300
From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters committee/Resolutions/Approval of 
Wikimedia Kenya - December 2011 - Meta

True! thanks Oscah for the timely updates ,now that the year has just started 
we need to work on prioritizing our tasks and execute them accordingly , me 
thinks registration comes before elections ,then interim officials need to work 
on the registration Abbas, Oscah,Steve ,Ann and the team coz  the registration 
daint need our input having had enough discussions on the same before , maybe 
we do a meet up and decide the mode ,date , of electing the board in accordance 
of with our constitution ,the new board with our input needs to come up  with a 
road map of the projects to be undertaken this year.


   Thanks

   Bruce Obwari,



On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

Hi guys,



I believe the boards aporoval is simply going to be a formality. We

need to start putting our house in order.  We should start thinking of

electing our Board, Expedite the registration process with Kenyan

Authorities and start laying and strategising our annual projects.



Best,

tratt





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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] 2012 Road Map

[Abbas Mahmood]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Alex Wafula  wrote:Hi all,
I hoped by now we'd have received confirmation to go ahead and register 
locally. 
I presume that the resolution might be passed at the next Board meeting in 
February, or even later on, since the Board is know engaged in really 
contentious issues re:fundraising. 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Representatives for the Wikimedia Conference 2012 in Berlin

[Abbas Mahmood]

Asaf,

RE: the Chapters list, I have already been informed by Michael Peel, the list 
admin, that we should forward 5 people (presumably the Board) to be added. I 
shall send their names once we have a Board in place.

Abbas.

From: abar...@wikimedia.org
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:41:16 -0800
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] WMKE Representatives for the Wikimedia Conference
2012 in Berlin

Hi, everyone.
I was wondering if you have at least one or two folks subscribed to the 
chapters-only mailing list (chapt...@wikimedia.ch), where Harel Cain, this 
year's program manager for the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin, has been 
inviting chapters to start thinking about their representation in Berlin this 
year.  He has asked me to make sure WMKE is aware of the invitation, and I 
quote his e-mail for your consideration below.  Note that he sent it to me 
expressly for the purpose of helping it reach all the chapters that haven't 
responded yet -- neither I nor anyone else from the Foundation is subscribed to 
the chapters-only mailing list, and this is deliberately so.


You may remember that last year, your delegates in Berlin were Abbas and Limoke.
You can read all about the conference, and past years' conferences, 
here:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012


Cheers,
   Asaf

From: Harel Cain 


Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 21:26
Subject: Re: [Chapters] **Reminder** Registration for Chapters Meeting 2012: 
YOUR ACTION REQUIRED
To: chapt...@wikimedia.ch



Dear all,

In the eleven days since I first sent out the e-mail below, quite a few 
chapters have chosen their delegates to the Chapters Conference 2012 or at 
least an interim contact person for the chapters has signed up in 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012/Participants.



However, we still haven't received any sign of life from the following 
chapters, and our plans are for registration to end in less than two weeks' 
time, by February 5th!
So may I please remind you all to speed up the choice of your representatives 
to ChapConf12 - our time is running out. I would also like to repeat that 
Wikimedia Deutschland, our kind host, will be covering the flight and 
accommodation costs for chapters who cannot afford it themselves.



Please, if you're from one of these chapters - list yourself as an interim 
contact person. If you know how to contact anyone from those chapters and think 
they are not following the list - please forward this to them.



* Wikimedia Brazil (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can someone 
forward this to any of their people?)
* Wikimedia Canada (are they on the list?)


* Wikimedia Deutschland
* Wikimedia DC (too busy with Wikimania?)
* Wikimedia Espana
* Wikimedia France
* Wikimedia Hong Kong


* Wikimedia Indonesia (Siska, you there?)
* Wikimedia Italia
* Wikimedia Kazakhstan (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can 
someone forward this to any of their people?)


* Wikimedia Kenya (chapter-to-be, probably not on this list yet - can someone 
forward this to any of their people?)
* Wikimedia Macedonia (Kiril, you there?)
* Wikimedia Macau (are they on the list?)


* Wikimedia Mexico
* Wikimedia Norge
* Wikimedia Polska
* Wikimedia Portugal
* Wikimedia Russia


* Wikimedia Serbia
* Wikimedia Taiwan
* Wikimedia Ukraine
* Wikimedia South Africa (apparently being added to the list as we speak)




Thank you everyone!

Harel Cain
Program manager for Chapters' Meeting 2012

-- 
Asaf Bartov


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Some Possible Synch with OLPC Kenya

[Abbas Mahmood]

Awesome work, Oscar!
Keep us posted :-)
Cheers,Abbas
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:44:29 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Some Possible Synch with OLPC Kenya
> 
> Jambo wote,
> 
> I have been busy this past  month with OLPC projects as some of you
> know. It has been really exciting and I must say while at it, I got to
> create a number of opportunities where we could possibly work hand in
> hand. Especially in creating content (The Kenya Syllabus ZIM file)
> 
> 
> I also distributed the Offlione Wikipedia to Teachers in Kisumu,
> Butere, Bungoma, Taita and Kampala and they all were so excited.
> Today we are meeting the Assistant Minister for Higher Education who
> will introduce us to the KIE guys ( whom we really tried hard to loop
> in during the Offline Project in vain ).
>  I am sure to loop in our Offline Project to the Minister and the KIE
> guys and see if we could get some support from them.
> We have lots of rely Education oriented activities lined up for the
> year and am sure we as WMKE will feature in many of them.
> 
> So stay tuned :-)
> 
> Yours,
> 
> -- 
> Limoke Oscar,
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Idea - Schools project upper phase

[Abbas Mahmood]

David,
I'm not a techie, so I can't really comment on any of this. But I do know some 
MediaWiki folks as well as some people on WMF's tech/mobile department. So if 
you need their help/support, I'd be happy to connect you to them :-)
All the best,Abbas.

Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:50:31 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Idea - Schools project upper phase

Guys,

Think of this... You have $100 to spend on a learning device. A computer maybe. 
Or maybe even an Android Tab. Think of the two. A $100 computer is slow and 
lazy and probably wont run anything beyond windows xp. An Android device on the 
other hand, will run ICS (Android 4) and probably offer great speeds. Now, we 
need Android offline readers. I am a Java developer, I need hands to work with, 
who wants in on an Android reader? It will be much more cooler to use touch 
screen devices for learning plus they are really modern... give it a though, I 
think I want to start an open source project on this...

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Idea - Schools project upper phase

[Abbas Mahmood]

And you might want to join the Wikimedia Mobile mailing list: 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l 
--Abbas
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:55:56 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Idea - Schools project upper phase

Abbas, 

That would be cool, if there is probably something existing or in progress, I 
would like to participate and customize it for Africa... Kenya. 

David.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:





David,
I'm not a techie, so I can't really comment on any of this. But I do know some 
MediaWiki folks as well as some people on WMF's tech/mobile department. So if 
you need their help/support, I'd be happy to connect you to them :-)

All the best,Abbas.

Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 09:50:31 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Idea - Schools project upper phase

Guys,

Think of this... You have $100 to spend on a learning device. A computer maybe. 
Or maybe even an Android Tab. Think of the two. A $100 computer is slow and 
lazy and probably wont run anything beyond windows xp. An Android device on the 
other hand, will run ICS (Android 4) and probably offer great speeds. Now, we 
need Android offline readers. I am a Java developer, I need hands to work with, 
who wants in on an Android reader? It will be much more cooler to use touch 
screen devices for learning plus they are really modern... give it a though, I 
think I want to start an open source project on this...


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative inBerlin

[Abbas Mahmood]

Oscar,
you forgot David. One more thing to consider is who is eligible to vote?

//Abbas.
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 13:19:13 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative  
> inBerlin
> 
> Apologies for the typos, sent from my phone on Nairobi streets. I hope
> the message is home nevertheless :-P
> 
> On 2/1/12, morine musyoka  wrote:
> > N morine...
> >  On Feb 1, 2012 1:10 PM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:
> >
> >> BT,
> >>
> >> The idea was to get the attention of those keen to represent us. Then
> >> I will add their names on the doodle. So far we have : Steve, Isaac
> >> and Edna. Still waiting for anyone still keen before I make the list
> >> of people to poll.
> >>
> >> PS: TO all those interested, The ChaoConf is a very engaging
> >> conference. Chapters share their experinces and lots of talking
> >> presenttons are done. Please be sure to have touch with all the
> >> current and previous projects if WMKE. it would be embarrasing for you
> >> to represent us yet you can not articulate and share our successes and
> >> failures with the rest if the wikimedia community.
> >>
> >> On that note, I wouod suggest like last year anyone oeen on going
> >> shoukd share with us what he/she has done or has participated in wmke
> >> prohects. That way, members will be better placed to decide who wilk
> >> represent us well. so get sharing and nominating ahd rem deadline for
> >> nominating someone or yourself is.suggest please?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >>
> >> On 2/1/12, Oliver Stegen  wrote:
> >> > Guys, I'm confused:
> >> > The doodle vote doesn't mention candidates for the ChapConf but dates
> >> (Feb
> >> > 2, 3 or 4). However, it sounded like we do the ChapConf representative
> >> vote
> >> > via doodle, and then meet for Board elections and other business at iHub
> >> on
> >> > Feb 11 (with agenda as of Steve's etherpad). Right?
> >> > So where's the doodle vote on the participants?
> >> > Best,
> >> > Oliver (aka BT)
> >> >
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: Limoke Oscar [mailto:oslim...@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: 01 February 2012 08:40
> >> >> To: Wikimedia Kenya .
> >> >> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative
> >> >> inBerlin
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi folks,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been monitoring Steve's Etherpad and I have not seen much
> >> >> activity on it. I would like to suggest that we nominate our reps to
> >> >> Chapters Conference through the list and if more than two people will
> >> >> be willing, I will be more that happy to administer the doodle vote (
> >> >> I am not interested)
> >> >>
> >> >> We really have a tight timeline to stick to so if you would like to
> >> >> Nominate someone or yourself,please do so on the list (with a good
> >> >> enough reason and proof of dedication to WMKE IMO  :-) ) . We have
> >> >> less than three days for that so lets do this ASAP.
> >> >>
> >> >> And then we can schedule the Board election meetup to the 11th as
> >> >> suggested in order to make better preparations for the same.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yours,
> >> >> --
> >> >> Limoke Oscar,
> >> >>
> >> >> ___
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> >> >> WikimediaKE@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative inBerlin

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> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:22:33 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative  
> inBerlin
> 
> Alex,
> 
> > I'd suggest we use the metrics we did last time:
> > * Number of meetups attended
> > * Duration of contribution to wmke
> 
> > I think I forgot some :)
>*A brief explanation of your contribution to WMKE over the past year

Perhaps the nominees should write up their personal statements on-wiki, in a 
central place?

> So am creating the final Doodle poll but I would like to point out
> that NOT all the people who have shown interest meet the above
> threshold. We had quite a number of physical meetups last year and am
> sorry to say I did not see some of you guys in ALL if not MOST of
> them. Since that is part of the Chapters agreed Criteria. I may LOCK
> out some participants who DO NOT meet the above threshold.

+1
> Finally, We had some discussion as to who is eligible to vote too. So
> NOT everyone subscribed to this mailing list is eligible. Only persons
> who show commitment through contribution to discussions and attending
> meetups will be eligible to voteSame criteria as last year

Agreed. Once again, maybe we should create a Wiki for these elections. It could 
include all the criteria, eligibility, names of nominees and their personal 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative inBerlin

[Abbas Mahmood]

Is the meeting tomorrow still on? Maybe it would have been better to meet the 
nominees tomorrow and hear their statements and vote thereafter. It'd be great 
if we'd get over with this, tomorrow, once and for all...

> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:17:45 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative  
> inBerlin
> 
> Bruce the link is fine, here it is
> :http://wikimedia.or.ke/Events/Chapters_Conference
> 
> I will hate to think that am the one making the selection criteria so
> anyone who gets time can add or approve or say something about this
> :http://wikimedia.or.ke/Events/Chapters_Conference
> 
> We have discussed and agreed on the same here on the list so am just
> documenting it.
> 
> Still waiting for BIOS :-)
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative inBerlin

[Abbas Mahmood]

And regardless of whether they'll be a meetup tomorrow, I'm still anticipating 
the personal statements on-wiki. Personally, I'm not going to vote for someone 
who can't wikify his/her personal statement.

--Abbas.

Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:55:41 +0300
From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
To: xelaw...@yahoo.com; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative
inBerlin

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On 3 February 2012 13:26, Alex Wafula  wrote:

Stephen mentioned the meetup would be pushed to 11th now that we were going to 
select our representatives over the list. But yah, it's proving to be a tad 
slow...

My suggestions, a brief meetup tomorrow (probably at Nairobi campus) to select 
our representatives or a Skype group  call/chat or even IRC.. we can then have 
a meetup on the 11th (probably at iHub) to discuss other stuff.


--alex
  





Is the meeting tomorrow still on? Maybe it would have been better to meet the 
nominees tomorrow and hear their statements and vote thereafter. It'd be great 
if we'd get over with this, tomorrow, once and for all...


> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:17:45 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative  
> inBerlin
> 
> Bruce the link is fine, here it is
> :http://wikimedia.or.ke/Events/Chapters_Conference

> 
> I will hate to think that am the one making the selection criteria so
> anyone who gets time can add or approve or say something about this
> :http://wikimedia.or.ke/Events/Chapters_Conference

> 
> We have discussed and agreed on the same here on the list so am just
> documenting it.
> 
> Still waiting for BIOS :-)
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative inBerlin

[Abbas Mahmood]

Isaac, you keep on insisting that you are online yet you haven't even bothered 
to write your personal statement until now. I am disappointed to say that 
despite the repeated calls for you guys to put your statements on wiki, none of 
you have bothered to do so. If you guys have to be pushed over and over again 
without no avail, I'm left to wonder whether this is the caliber of people that 
I am supposed to vote for to go "represent" us in Berlin. And speaking of 
representation, what is it you that you are going to say Wikimedia Kenya has 
done over the past year? Why should I vote for you? What value will you have by 
attending the Chapters Conference? Unfortunately, I do not have the luxury of a 
Skype call since I am using my mobile phone, so I am only going to be able to 
read them on wiki or on this mailing list. Otherwise, I am becoming more and 
more inclined to abstain from voting.
Sadly,Abbas.
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:12:59 +0300
From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Urgent :Chapters Conference Represenative
inBerlin

Iwould say a Skype chat for me. Will be online the whole day.



On 4 February 2012 09:10, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

Hi guys,



So since we have only today to determine our representatives and so

far NONE of them have met the minimum threshold i.e No bios,



Am creating the final Doodle poll so please if your are still keen,

forward your name again by midday so that I create the poll.



--

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters Co0nference Poll results

[Abbas Mahmood]

Congrats! Steve & Alex, please add your contact details here: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012/Participants 
--Abbas.
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:55:35 +0300
From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Chapters Co0nference Poll results

Congrats guys.Isaac K. Kosgei.
Bachelor of Agribusiness Management
+254727553981
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On 5 February 2012 14:49, David Mugo  wrote:

Congrats guys, let me know if you need anything from me, represent us well.
David.
On Feb 5, 2012 1:29 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:


Thanks Oscar, great job. Congratulations to Steve n Alex...
On Feb 5, 2012 10:20 AM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:



Hi Guys,
Thank you so much for your participation in the poll. Thank you too for all 
\the eligible and energetic members of WMKE who showed interest in representing 
us at the Chapters Conference in Berlin. 

I would like to present the poll results:





PS: I did note personally partake in the polls and I have shared the poll 
results with Abbas.
I have scrambled the order of polling up to maintain the CONFIDENCE of the 
participants.
 

  




So Officially Stephen and Alex will be our representatives to the Chapters 
Conference in Berlin this year.

PS: Alex,
I understand you have some history with the German Embassy, should their arise 
a problem, I would like David to be on standby. 





Abbas will notify Harel and you should make it your own responsibility to start 
making travel plans and being updated on the conference 
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Conference_2012) including adding 
your details. 





Please make presentation plans about the State of our Chapter( its a strictly 3 
min ppt)

Once again thank you so much for your time and participation

Yours,
-- 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] I am interested in your list

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Hi Michelle,
Kindly subscribe to this mailing list by filling in this form: 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
--Abbas
PS -- Steve, I just cc-ed Michelle. She probably didn't get your email since 
she isn't subscribed to this list yet.

> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:05:28 +0300
> From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] I am interested in your list
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Welcome..the admin of this mailing shall add you.
> 
> in the meantime you can acquaint urself with wikimedia foundation and
> what wikimedia does by visiting www.wikimediafoundation.org.
> 
> Welcome to the world of free knowledge ;)
> 
> regards,
> Stephen.
> 
> On 2/1/12, Michelle Shivu  wrote:
> > I am Michelle Tongo, a graduate in I.T from JKUAT and i am very interested
> > in joining the list.
> > Would appreciate if you added me
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michelle T.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Application to join Wikimedia Listing

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Hi Nicolas,
Kindly subscribe to this mailing list by filling in this form: 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake
--Abbas
PS -- Steve, I just cc-ed Nicolas. He probably didn't get your email since he 
isn't subscribed to this list yet

> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:08:56 +0300
> From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Application to join Wikimedia Listing
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Welcome..the admin of this mailing shall definately add you.
> 
> in the meantime you can acquaint urself with wikimedia foundation and
> what wikimedia does by visiting www.wikimediafoundation.org.
> 
> We shall be having a meeting this coming Saturday in Nairobi so if you
> will be available you can drop by.
> 
> Welcome to the world of free knowledge ;)
> 
> regards,
> Stephen.
> 
> On 2/4/12, Nicholas Odanga  wrote:
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> > My name is Andollo Nicholas. I am requesting if you can add me to the
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> > about Wikimedia services.
> >
> > Thanks.
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[Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,
This weekend's meetup will feature the elections of WMKE's board (at last!). 
So, there's a draft of the election details here: 
http://wikimedia.or.ke/Board_Elections. Kindly have a look at it and redact 
wherever necessary. The actual text is below.
Sincerely,
Abbas.

===Preamble===Wikimedia Kenya is seeking to appoint five candidates to sit on 
the Board of Trustees for one year, starting 1 March 2012. The five new members 
of the Board will help decide the future direction of Wikimedia Kenya. Board 
membership is unpaid. 
===Nominations===Wikimedia Kenya wishes to appoint five excellent board members 
and believe this can best be achieved by selecting from a large number of 
varied and skilled candidates. Therefore, we call for nominations by everyone 
who believes they or someone they know would be suitable. The chapters ask that 
this call for candidates be distributed as widely as possible through such 
forums as mailing lists, blogs and social media.
The successful candidates will be committed to the Wikimedia mission and 
willing and able to engage constructively with the stakeholders of the 
movement, including the chapter volunteers and Wikip|media contributors that 
provide it with essential support. The successful candidates will have: 
*The ability to provide expertise to the board in its goal of implementing a 
coherent vision on how Wikimedia projects work; 

* Sensitivity to complex issues surrounding the multiplicity of languages, 
cultures, and jurisdictions; 

* Knowledge and understanding of the governance of international non-profit 
organizations, balancing autonomy and subsidiarity; 

* The ability to think strategically and to work both as part of a team and 
independently; 

* A good standard of written and oral English and Swahili (fluency in 
additional language would be well regarded); 

* Sufficient time to devote to the role of board member, and the ability and 
willingness to travel. 
Increasing the geographical diversity of current board membership would be an 
advantage. 
===Rules===This section is a copy and paste from the bylaws'   
* Members of the Board shall be elected using the approval voting system, that 
is, the candidate who receives the greatest number of positive votes are 
elected.
* The board member shall be elected individually and the board will distribute 
the functions (of chairperson, treasurer, secretary, etc.) amongst themselves
* All voting for election shall be by secret ballot. In case of a tie, a 
re-election shall be made. 
* Ballot papers shall also be made available to members entitled to vote who 
attend the AGM in person. 
* A member is not entitled to vote at a general meeting unless all dues that 
are payable by the member to the Chapter have been paid. 
* On a poll, votes may be given either personally or by proxy. 
* A member can only give his proxy to another member and no voting member may 
hold more than one additional proxy. [Details about proxy voting are in the 
bylaws]
===Process===1.  The chapter will appoint a moderator and deputy moderator to 
manage the election. This is intended to be very simple: The moderators are 
responsible for keeping the wider Wikimedia community updated with the election 
progress; publicizing the call for nominations; and overseeing the actual 
elections. The moderators should not be candidates, but they can participate in 
the process. 
2. All candidate statements should be sent to the moderators and/or Wikimedia 
Kenya wiki. 
3. Chapter members will have the opportunity to ask questions to candidates. 
Candidates are encouraged, but not obliged, to answer all questions put to 
them. The Q&A will take place by any appropriate means devised by the 
moderators (e.g. by email, F2F, etc).
4. Voting will take place on [[insert date]].

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

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Branton,

Thank you for expressing your interest in the Moderator position. However, 
since the voting will _probably_ be at this weekend's meetup[1], it will be 
imperative for the moderators to be present and oversee the voting.

--Abbas.

[1] I hugely emphasise on the word ''probably'' since we have quite a short 
timeline, if the voting is to take place this Saturday.

--Abbas.

> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:50:59 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections
> 
> ,Having read and understood the elections details from the link posted
> by Abbas , the rules and regulations therein, with full knowledge of
> what the Board members mean to the future of WMKE Chapter ,with no
> specific interests in the Board member position  , i would like to
> offer myself to the position of The election moderator.
>  I promise to be fair , impartial and above reproach ,
> together we want to deliver uncontested election guided by rules and
> regulations in our Chapter constitution ,
> 
> On 2/8/12, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> > Thanks Abbas for taking this up.
> >
> > So the next hurdle is figuring out a Moderator and his Deputy? Any
> > applicants?
> >
> > Who are up for nominations for the Board?
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

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Branton,

Thank you for expressing your interest in the Moderator position. However, 
since the voting will _probably_ be at this weekend's meetup[1], it will be 
imperative for the moderators to be present and oversee the voting.

--Abbas.

[1] I hugely emphasise on the word ''probably'' since we have quite a short 
timeline, if the voting is to take place this Saturday.


> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:50:59 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections
> 
> ,Having read and understood the elections details from the link posted
> by Abbas , the rules and regulations therein, with full knowledge of
> what the Board members mean to the future of WMKE Chapter ,with no
> specific interests in the Board member position  , i would like to
> offer myself to the position of The election moderator.
>  I promise to be fair , impartial and above reproach ,
> together we want to deliver uncontested election guided by rules and
> regulations in our Chapter constitution ,
> 
> On 2/8/12, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> > Thanks Abbas for taking this up.
> >
> > So the next hurdle is figuring out a Moderator and his Deputy? Any
> > applicants?
> >
> > Who are up for nominations for the Board?
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

[Abbas Mahmood]

Branton,

plus counting the vote results. 

Just so we're clear, I am not the one who called for an election this Saturday. 
The elections item has been put up on the agenda on the etherpad that Stephen 
made. My role is merely elaborating the election process and ensuring that they 
are in line with our bylaws. _When_ it actually takes place is beyond my scope.

--Abbas.

Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:22:31 +0300
From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

@ Abbas , as per procedural approach outlined above,the moderator ought to 
among other things call for nominations ,publicize the elections, do Q & A 
session with the candidates ,this to me sounds like we have enormous task ahead 
if you actually do it in one sitting thats better , but i honestly have my 
reservations !if the elections are scheduled for this Sato my candidature 
stands withdrawn ,so lets have other members willing to play the reff.


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:




Branton,

Thank you for expressing your interest in the Moderator position. However, 
since the voting will _probably_ be at this weekend's meetup[1], it will be 
imperative for the moderators to be present and oversee the voting.


--Abbas.

[1] I hugely emphasise on the word ''probably'' since we have quite a short 
timeline, if the voting is to take place this Saturday.


> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 10:50:59 +0300

> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

> 
> ,Having read and understood the elections details from the link posted
> by Abbas , the rules and regulations therein, with full knowledge of
> what the Board members mean to the future of WMKE Chapter ,with no

> specific interests in the Board member position  , i would like to
> offer myself to the position of The election moderator.
>  I promise to be fair , impartial and above reproach ,
> together we want to deliver uncontested election guided by rules and

> regulations in our Chapter constitution ,
> 
> On 2/8/12, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> > Thanks Abbas for taking this up.

> >
> > So the next hurdle is figuring out a Moderator and his Deputy? Any
> > applicants?
> >
> > Who are up for nominations for the Board?
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications

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I know this is the umpteenth time you've got this reminder, but I'd love to see 
all of us in DC for Wikimania. So if you haven't applied, please do so. We all 
deserve to be there :)
--Abbas.

Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:21:04 -0800
From: jw...@wikimedia.org
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications

Hi All!
Just a quick reminder to apply for the Wikimania Scholarship! We are closing 
applications in just two weeks, and as of now there are only two Kenyans who 
have applied...! 

WIkimania is a great way for you to meet other Wiki[m/p]ians from around the 
world, network, share ideas, and simply enjoy each other's company! I'm sure 
you can talk to Isaac and Alex if you have any more questions about that :) 
http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships

Hope you all are doing well!Jessie



On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM, stephen wanjau  wrote:


Hi,

You can now apply for Wikimania2012 scholarships...see message below.

Thank me later and all the best.

best,
Stephen


-- Forwarded message --


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Date: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Subject: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications




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Greetings all and sundry!



Scholarship applications are now being accepted for Wikimania 2012 in

Washington, D.C.  The application window will be one month (through

February 16). To learn more about Wikimania scholarships, see

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships



To apply for a scholarship, you can fill out the application form

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications

[Abbas Mahmood]

Not sure Isaac, but it could probably be jina la familia au jina la pili.
--Abbas.

Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 03:12:21 -0800
From: lire...@yahoo.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications

Thanks for the reminder Abbas!Isaac I think Kiswahili translation for surname 
is JINA LA UKOO.
Regards,Nyarera.
From: Kosgei Isaac 
 To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. 
 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:07 PM

 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications
   

Great Reminder Abbas.
I was doing some Translation and I am looking for the Swahili word for Surname. 
Je Unaweza saidia? Isaac K. Kosgei.
Bachelor of Agribusiness Management

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On 8 February 2012 14:05, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:





I know this is the umpteenth time you've got this reminder, but I'd love to see 
all of us in DC for Wikimania. So if you haven't applied, please do so. We all 
deserve to be there :)

--Abbas.


Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:21:04 -0800
From: jw...@wikimedia.org

To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications


Hi All!
Just a quick reminder to apply for the Wikimania Scholarship! We are closing 
applications in just two weeks, and as of now there are only two Kenyans who 
have applied...! 


WIkimania is a great way for you to meet other Wiki[m/p]ians from around the 
world, network, share ideas, and simply enjoy each other's company! I'm sure 
you can talk to Isaac and Alex if you have any more questions about that :) 

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships


Hope you all are doing well!Jessie



On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM, stephen wanjau  wrote:



Hi,

You can now apply for Wikimania2012 scholarships...see message below.

Thank me later and all the best.

best,
Stephen


-- Forwarded message --


From: Sage Ross 
Date: Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Subject: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications





To: wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org, Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List 








Greetings all and sundry!



Scholarship applications are now being accepted for Wikimania 2012 in

Washington, D.C.  The application window will be one month (through

February 16). To learn more about Wikimania scholarships, see

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships



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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications

[Abbas Mahmood]

LOL. This thread is becoming funny. Thanks Isaac for bringing in some 
much-needed light-hearted humor to this mailing list. It's clearly needed to 
break the monotony of the boring bylaws :)

Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:32:37 +0300
From: gkariuk...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications

i know Isacc.clearly i cant compete in a swahili translation competition.


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Kosgei Isaac  wrote:


Grace,
Umenoa. Si sahihi hata kidogo. 




On 8 February 2012 14:19, Kosgei Isaac  wrote:


Thanks guys,
I really appreciate 

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On 8 February 2012 14:14, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:



Not sure Isaac, but it could probably be jina la familia au jina la pili. 


--Abbas.






Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 03:12:21 -0800
From: lire...@yahoo.com 


To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications



Thanks for the reminder Abbas!
Isaac I think Kiswahili translation for surname is JINA LA UKOO.


Regards,
Nyarera.






From: Kosgei Isaac 
To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. 
 

Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications




Great Reminder Abbas.
I was doing some Translation and I am looking for the Swahili word for Surname. 
Je Unaweza saidia? 
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On 8 February 2012 14:05, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:



I know this is the umpteenth time you've got this reminder, but I'd love to see 
all of us in DC for Wikimania. So if you haven't applied, please do so. We all 
deserve to be there :) 


--Abbas.






Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:21:04 -0800
From: jw...@wikimedia.org
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship 
applications 



Hi All! 


Just a quick reminder to apply for the Wikimania Scholarship! We are closing 
applications in just two weeks, and as of now there are only two Kenyans who 
have applied...! 


WIkimania is a great way for you to meet other Wiki[m/p]ians from around the 
world, network, share ideas, and simply enjoy each other's company! I'm sure 
you can talk to Isaac and Alex if you have any more questions about that :) 

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships



Hope you all are doing well!
Jessie




On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM, stephen wanjau  wrote:

Hi,

You can now apply for Wikimania2012 scholarships...see message below.

Thank me later and all the best.

best,

Stephen



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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012 now accepting scholarship applications
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Greetings all and sundry!

Scholarship applications are now being accepted for Wikimania 2012 in
Washington, D.C.  The application window will be one month (through
February 16). To learn more about Wikimania scholarships, see

http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships

To apply for a scholarship, you can fill out the application form
here: https://secure.wikidc.org/wm/schols/


Good luck!

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hello,
This is such wonderful news.
We have come a long way. This chapter has been two years in the making. I 
remember our very first meet-up in July 24, 2010 at Java House, Loita Street 
along with Oliver, Oscar and Dennis. Out of the ~20 winners of the Google 
challenge that I had notified about the first meeting, only the four of us 
attended. Despite our failed efforts to proselytize our fellow participants, we 
still had hope. Despite the criticisms, we still moved on. Despite the many 
failed projects, we've still managed to succeed in little projects, with high 
impact. Despite the chaos in this mailing list, the energy amongst us still 
prevails. Despite the fact that we're not yet legally recognized, we have 
managed to impact the community and partnered with several legally-recognized 
entities. Despite the huge gender gap in the global Wikimedia movement, we have 
managed to get a fair number of (awesome) ladies on board. Despite our 
differences, we are bonded by camaraderie. 
And yes, I would like a cake too. Or a bash. Or going back to Java where it all 
started. Whatever.
Warm regards,
Abbas.

 

Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:39:29 +0300
From: ednahkio...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to 
Wikimedia Kenya!


That's amazing.
-- Forwarded message --
From: BRANTON OBWARI 


Date: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia 
Kenya!
To: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter." 





Great!



On 2/9/12, David Mugo  wrote:

> What a happy day! I think we should cut a cake at Saturday's meetup!

>

> David.

>

> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:49 AM, stephen wanjau  wrote:

>

>> Sijambo,

>>

>> This in deed is great news.

>>

>> //Stephen.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!

[Abbas Mahmood]

Isaac,

Anyone with MediaWiki experience can volunteer to construct the site.

--Abbas.

Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:01:13 +0300
From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to 
Wikimedia Kenya!

Quick  note, the link to our website http://wikimedia.or.ke/Main_Page has 
always been site under Construction for So long. Who is the engineer behind 
this and when will the Construction be through. I think we need a timeline on 
this. 

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On 9 February 2012 10:50, cliff argwings  wrote:

HERE'S TO WMKE...!! Congrats everyone!

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Chris Riwa  wrote:


Hi great people, this is some really great achievement for all of us.

Lets keep up the good work. "Tumetoka mbali na tunaenda mbali zaidi."

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!

[Abbas Mahmood]

Ha! I'm glad that you're inspired :) And yes, feel free to re-use it. 

--Abbas.

> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 13:39:01 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Fwd: [Internal-l] Congratulations to   
> Wikimedia Kenya!
> 
> LoL Abbas Mahmood
> 
> Your speech is awesome and i love it. Your diligence and personal
> commitment helped steer WMKE to its current state.  Cheers to all your
> effort and all the members who hang on through the hard times, the
> tough times and the ugly times too. Cheers to all of us...
> 
> BTW Abbas, allow me to borrow you speech? for maybe a blog and staff?
> Sire to Cite :-)
> > Hello,
> > This is such wonderful news.
> > We have come a long way. This chapter has been two years in the making. I
> > remember our very first meet-up in July 24, 2010 at Java House, Loita Street
> > along with Oliver, Oscar and Dennis. Out of the ~20 winners of the Google
> > challenge that I had notified about the first meeting, only the four of us
> > attended. Despite our failed efforts to proselytize our fellow participants,
> > we still had hope. Despite the criticisms, we still moved on. Despite the
> > many failed projects, we've still managed to succeed in little projects,
> > with high impact. Despite the chaos in this mailing list, the energy amongst
> > us still prevails. Despite the fact that we're not yet legally recognized,
> > we have managed to impact the community and partnered with several
> > legally-recognized entities. Despite the huge gender gap in the global
> > Wikimedia movement, we have managed to get a fair number of (awesome) ladies
> > on board. Despite our differences, we are bonded by camaraderie.
> > And yes, I would like a cake too. Or a bash. Or going back to Java where it
> > all started. Whatever.
> > Warm regards,
> > Abbas.
> 
> 
> 
> Lastly, Can we start now asking for Membership Contributions?
> -- 
> Limoke Oscar,
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

[Abbas Mahmood]

So some of us want a cake at the meetup. And it seems some people can't make it 
before 12pm/2pm. So, is it possible for us to wait for them (until 2.30pm?) so 
that they can experience this occassion with us as well? Kindly advise.

--Abbas.

From: deontemun...@hotmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:18:09 +
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY



i'll definitely be there for the meet-up.
 
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:59:09 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

Im on 0722334955 if anyone needs directions.
Or Twitter: @raidarmax

David.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM, stephen wanjau  wrote:



Hello Everyone,


After negotiations with the iHubbers, the consequences are
quite dreadful since the venue shall not be available for our meet-up this
coming Saturday as it had earlier emerged.


Nonetheless, there is some good news that a new venue has
been established courtesy of David. After having a chat with him, he 
offered to
accommodate WMKE at a Public Service Private facility that is located at Upper 
Hill
adjacent to Visa place.


To get there, go to Kencom then board buses headed to
Kenyatta then alight at Visa place.


PS: It is only the venue that has changed, meeting time is
still at 0930am so make a point to be there in time.


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

[Abbas Mahmood]

So I'm still waiting for the others to confirm whether they'll come before I 
order the cake. Grace? Oliver? Sarah? Isaac? And to the ones that had already 
confirmed: are you comfortable hanging out in the afternoon as well?

--Abbas.

> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:05:37 +0300
> From: musyoka.mor...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY
> 
> David we really appreciate,thanks.
> Morine.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:03 PM, David Mugo  wrote:
> > Just to clarify, the public service club is a member's only sports club that
> > I'm a member of and I'm allowed to have a few of my meetings, including this
> > one
> >
> > For the celebration, its the ideal place.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM, morine musyoka 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Ednah...al b thinking about that...am hoping aint working on sato.:-)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ednah Kiome  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > That waiting bit would be great so that we can celebrate together.Please
> >> > do!
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > Ednah
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:49 PM, David Mugo  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh... And remember I DJ too, I could bring some music...
> >> >>
> >> >> David.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:49 PM, David Mugo  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Guys,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The public service club could offer some services. A little catering
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> we could order a cake from a friend... short notice, but if given a go
> >> >>> ahead, I could order. A nice cake would cost somewhere between 2500 to
> >> >>> 4k.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Let me know...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> David.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Abbas Mahmood 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So some of us want a cake at the meetup. And it seems some people
> >> >>>> can't
> >> >>>> make it before 12pm/2pm. So, is it possible for us to wait for them
> >> >>>> (until
> >> >>>> 2.30pm?) so that they can experience this occassion with us as well?
> >> >>>> Kindly
> >> >>>> advise.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --Abbas.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> From: deontemun...@hotmail.com
> >> >>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> >>>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:18:09 +
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> i'll definitely be there for the meet-up.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:59:09 +0300
> >> >>>> From: raidar...@gmail.com
> >> >>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Im on 0722334955 if anyone needs directions.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Or Twitter: @raidarmax
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> David.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM, stephen wanjau 
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hello Everyone,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> After negotiations with the iHubbers, the consequences are quite
> >> >>>> dreadful since the venue shall not be available for our meet-up this
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> coming Saturday as it had earlier emerged.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Nonetheless, there is some good news that a new venue has been
> >> &

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

[Abbas Mahmood]

David,
That's just hilarious :) 
Isaac,
Wow, that came as a pleasant surprise. I appreciate the compliments. 

All,
Hope to see you tomorrow. After the treasurer's approval, I've ordered the 
cake. It's from the same baker that made our Wikipedia 10 cake. 
--Abbas.

Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:40:50 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

And you know the best thing about this is that Isaac will not have his piece of 
cake on skype :)

David.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Kosgei Isaac  wrote:

I am OK with the waiting. David, you rock man, thanks for all the

efforts you are putting in. Greatly appreciated. Abbas I liked your

morning note well written, reminds me of Obama's 2004 DNC address, I

think you can give Obama a run for his money.



On 09/02/2012, morine musyoka  wrote:

> David we really appreciate,thanks.

> Morine.

>

> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 5:03 PM, David Mugo  wrote:

>> Just to clarify, the public service club is a member's only sports club

>> that

>> I'm a member of and I'm allowed to have a few of my meetings, including

>> this

>> one

>>

>> For the celebration, its the ideal place.

>>

>> David.

>>

>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM, morine musyoka 

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Ednah...al b thinking about that...am hoping aint working on sato.:-)

>>>

>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ednah Kiome 

>>> wrote:

>>> >

>>> > Hi,

>>> >

>>> > That waiting bit would be great so that we can celebrate

>>> > together.Please

>>> > do!

>>> >

>>> > Regards

>>> > Ednah

>>> >

>>> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:49 PM, David Mugo  wrote:

>>> >>

>>> >> Oh... And remember I DJ too, I could bring some music...

>>> >>

>>> >> David.

>>> >>

>>> >>

>>> >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:49 PM, David Mugo 

>>> >> wrote:

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Guys,

>>> >>>

>>> >>> The public service club could offer some services. A little catering

>>> >>> and

>>> >>> we could order a cake from a friend... short notice, but if given a

>>> >>> go

>>> >>> ahead, I could order. A nice cake would cost somewhere between 2500

>>> >>> to

>>> >>> 4k.

>>> >>>

>>> >>> Let me know...

>>> >>>

>>> >>> David.

>>> >>>

>>> >>>

>>> >>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Abbas Mahmood 

>>> >>> wrote:

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> So some of us want a cake at the meetup. And it seems some people

>>> >>>> can't

>>> >>>> make it before 12pm/2pm. So, is it possible for us to wait for them

>>> >>>> (until

>>> >>>> 2.30pm?) so that they can experience this occassion with us as well?

>>> >>>> Kindly

>>> >>>> advise.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> --Abbas.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> 

>>> >>>> From: deontemun...@hotmail.com

>>> >>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 06:18:09 +

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> i'll definitely be there for the meet-up.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> 

>>> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:59:09 +0300

>>> >>>> From: raidar...@gmail.com

>>> >>>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] SATURDAY'S MEET-UP ON 11TH FEBRUARY

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Im on 0722334955 if anyone needs directions.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> Or Twitter: @raidarmax

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> David.

>>> >>>>

>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:57 PM, stephen wanjau

>>> >>>> 

>>> >>

[Wikimedia Kenya] FW: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hello,
Forwarding the thread below of congratulatory messages from the international 
community.
--Abbas.

From: ker...@africancommons.org
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:24:42 +0200
To: interna...@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!

Well done Abbas and team!  This is fabulous ... Afriwikians unite ;) !!!

Kerryn

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On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:





Yes, some of us are here :). I will forward this thread to our local mailing 
list so that the rest can see it too. Thanks for your congratulatory messages.

Regards from Kenya,
Abbas.



> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 17:11:44 +0530
> From: tinucher...@wikimedia.in
> To: interna...@lists.wikimedia.org


> Subject: Re: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!
> 
> Congratulations and Best wishes from  Wikimedia India Chapter.
> 
> Btw are the folks from the new chapter on the list to receive our wishes 


> ? :)
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards
> Tinu Cherian
> Wikimedia India Chapter
> http://wiki.wikimedia.in
> 
> 
> 


> 
> On 2/9/2012 3:18 AM, phoebe ayers wrote:
> > The Wikimedia Foundation Board is very pleased to welcome and approve
> > our 39th chapter, Wikimedia Kenya:
> > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Kenya


> >
> > Congratulations to all for your hard work!
> > -- Phoebe Ayers
> > WMF Board of Trustees Secretary
> >
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[Wikimedia Kenya] A message from Sumana

[Abbas Mahmood]

And someone from WMF is already interested in working with us! See message 
below.--Abbas

 > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:51:03 -0500
> From: suma...@wikimedia.org
> To: interna...@lists.wikimedia.org; abbas...@hotmail.com; oslim...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Internal-l] Congratulations to Wikimedia Kenya!
> 
> Abbas Mahmood, Limoke Oscar, and all the other Wikimedia Kenya people --
> welcome and congratulations! I look forward to meeting you at
> Wikimania, as many of you as can come.
> 
> I saw that you are interested in information/communication technology in
> schools, especially offline use of and access to Wikimedia content. I'd
> be happy to work with you on:
> 
> * encouraging Kenyan students to work on MediaWiki and related Wikimedia
> open source projects -- we have some new tutorial texts and videos up at
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Tutorials
> * helping technology-minded Kenyan students apply for paid open source
> work via Google Summer of Code, especially on MediaWiki --
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012
> * sharing experiences with the Wikimedia Foundation's mobile/offline
> engineering teams, and with Wikimedia Switzerland (which also sponsors
> Kiwix development) to ensure that Kiwix and mobile access work for you,
> in the educational contexts you've experienced
> 
> (Please feel free to forward my offer to public email lists, blogs, etc.)
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] CIO Article

[Abbas Mahmood]

This is wonderful news!
Abbas.

> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:36:51 +0300
> From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] CIO Article
> 
> Nice post ;)
> 
> Some limelight there ^^
> 
> //Stephen
> 
> On 2/18/12, David Mugo  wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > http://cio.co.ke/view-all-main-stories/4904-kenya-makes-it-to-39th-wikimedia-chapter-.html
> >
> > --
> > -
> > David Mugo,
> > ICT & E-Commerce Consultant,
> > http://majibu.com
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> >
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Photo Walk

[Abbas Mahmood]

Just so you know, getting a receipt doesn't make it a bona-fide, on-the-record 
expense. It could possibly be a form of creative accounting. Anyone can easily 
get a receipt book and give out receipts for seemingly legal expenses.
Abbas.

From: abar...@wikimedia.org
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:53:09 -0800
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Photo Walk

Excellent, thanks! 
   A.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, stephen wanjau  wrote:


Asaf, this fee is a legal fee. In fact other photo journalists pay for this and 
an official receipt from the City Council of Nairobi is issued.


The KES 2600 caters for a permit to take photos within the council's 
municipality for a day. 
When we went there (with Oscar) we were told to pay the fee. We were hesitant 
to just pay and we explained the uniqueness and non-commercial nature of our 
undertaking. Since the boss who could give us a waiver was out on a meeting. 
The receptionist adviced that we write an official letter explaining the 
purpose of our photo walk and request for a waiver thereof.



The results of our request shall be out on Monday or Tuesday. 
If we get a total waiver well and good and that's what we are hoping for.
//Stephen
   
On Feb 18, 2012 11:47 AM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:



Is this 2600 fee something official?  Will you be getting a receipt?  If so, 
it's fine to pay it.  If it really is a bribe, we cannot cooperate with it; 
supporting corruption is not a legitimate use of our donor funds.





   A.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, stephen wanjau  wrote:





Hello Nice people,

Asaf, I sought some advice from a local lawyer and he adviced me it would be 
wise to notify the authorites of our undertaking considering the security 
status of our country courtesy of the invasion into Somalia. The Alshabab have 
been threatening to bomb the city and since we are a group of youths who shall 
be taking photos we might be mistaken to be counterparts of the Alshabab 
looking for the best buildings to attack.








We sought advice from the OCPD Central police station today and the Urban 
Development Department at the city council of Nairobi.

At the city Council of Nairobi, they advised that we are supposed to pay a fee 
of KES2,600. We talked to them and they told us to write a letter to request 
for a partial or full waiver since ours was not a commercial undertaking.








As for the OCPD, he turned us down and he told us that he was too busy to 
handle our case ;( Planning to go and see him sometime this week or early next 
week.

The project is still on as scheduled for 25th February, am just working to 
ensure everyone is safe and not harassed by the City Council Askaris [1]  and 
the Regular police as well.









//Stephen

1. City council, a den of corruption.









On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Asaf Bartov  wrote:




What exactly did this photographer say you need a press card for?  I.e. what 
are you not allowed to photograph without a press card?
(In general, my experience shows that most people, including government 
officials and professional photographers, have a fairly hazy knowledge of 
copyright law, and often repeat "conventional wisdom" statements without 
scrutiny.  One of the things Wikimedians have been consistently good at, around 
the world, is finding out what the actual facts are, and making sure the public 
interest is served best, by not submitting to limitations that aren't actually 
there. -- so yes, it would behoove us to look at the written law.  I'm sorry I 
don't have time to look into this myself.  Do we have access to a friendly 
Kenyan lawyer who might be able to help us find out what the law says?)









   Asaf

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:39 AM, stephen wanjau  wrote:











Hello Nice people,



I do hope that you are doing well. At the meet-up, we resolved to undertake the
photo-walk on the Saturday of 25th February 2012 and not on the 18th
as it had earlier been indicated. During our meet-up I networked with a
photographer/ blogger who was in attendance and we dialogued about how we could
make this photo walk a success in terms of the logistics involved.



He informed me that he had been using images from commons as yet he never knew
of the existence of a local community of Wikim(p)edians! From what he said, we 
are required by law to get Press cards from the affected ministry
that deals with Journalism in Kenya, i.e. Ministry of Information and
Communication. 



Another alternative that we had been given earlier by Kaburo as we were
planning for Wikis takes Nairobi was to request for written permission from the
City Council of Nairobi. I am kind of muddled by these two opinions because in
Kenya there is freedom of panorama, one is allowed to take photos except at
such places that are marked explicitly that you are not supposed to take
photographs.


Freedom
of Panorama in Kenya as highlighted on Commons.


Anyone on this
list who is conversant with this, 

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi Oscar,

Thanks for following this through. I can't open the etherpad on my mobile, so I 
apologize in advance if I ask questions that are already answered in the 
etherpad.

1.) Out of the 3, how many people have signed up so far?

2.) what do you mean by hiring a venue?

3.) which institutions are you planning to visit?

4.) why are you stating that Wikimedia Kenya is in a state of budgetary 
insufficiency?

Sincerely,
Abbas.

> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:00:41 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa
> 
> Waasalumu ,
> 
> I hope we are doing great. It has been a week since I asked for your
> input into the above. Since I got none, I went ahead with the plans
> for the same.
> 
> So Wkimedia Kenya and Mozuilla Kenya had sometime last year discussed
> and greed on having an Outreach this year to introduce guys to our
> work.(https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Kenya-Mozilla-Wikimedia-Outreach
> and https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Kenya-Road-Trip-Institutions)
> 
> For Wikimedia, we would hold a few Wiki Academies to show guys how and
> what it takes to create Wikipedia and hope they will be apart of it
> and contribute if not make good use of other Wikimedia Resources in
> their daily life.
> 
> So the first outreach is almost here with us and I have been working
> on it with Alex from the Mozilla Camp and since we do not have
> sufficient budget and resources as Mozilla does ( I understand they
> really do have lots of cash for Outreach this year :-) ), we have
> agreed that Wikimedia Kenya will only need to cater for the boarding
> and travel expenses for its participants. We are still ironing out the
> details of hiring or finding a venue. Our audience in Mombasa will
> include guys from GTUG Mombasa and a few techies and developers in
> Mombasa and calling for a few students who would make it to the
> meetup. We have a liaison with the GTUG Guys in Mombasa helping with
> the coordination.
> 
> So this is a call for anyone keen on helping or who has a presentation
> and teaching to do to step forward (A maximum of 3 people). Tentative
> dates are March 9th to 10th
> 
> 
> Your input is eagerly awaited and volunteers too
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa

[Abbas Mahmood]

One more question:

5.) have you made any merchandise arrangements? For instance, the the 
locally-printed t-shirts. 

Abbas.

From: abbas...@hotmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:31:42 +
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa


Hi Oscar,

Thanks for following this through. I can't open the etherpad on my mobile, so I 
apologize in advance if I ask questions that are already answered in the 
etherpad.

1.) Out of the 3, how many people have signed up so far?

2.) what do you mean by hiring a venue?

3.) which institutions are you planning to visit?

4.) why are you stating that Wikimedia Kenya is in a state of budgetary 
insufficiency?

Sincerely,
Abbas.

> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:00:41 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa
> 
> Waasalumu ,
> 
> I hope we are doing great. It has been a week since I asked for your
> input into the above. Since I got none, I went ahead with the plans
> for the same.
> 
> So Wkimedia Kenya and Mozuilla Kenya had sometime last year discussed
> and greed on having an Outreach this year to introduce guys to our
> work.(https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Kenya-Mozilla-Wikimedia-Outreach
> and https://etherpad.mozilla.org/Kenya-Road-Trip-Institutions)
> 
> For Wikimedia, we would hold a few Wiki Academies to show guys how and
> what it takes to create Wikipedia and hope they will be apart of it
> and contribute if not make good use of other Wikimedia Resources in
> their daily life.
> 
> So the first outreach is almost here with us and I have been working
> on it with Alex from the Mozilla Camp and since we do not have
> sufficient budget and resources as Mozilla does ( I understand they
> really do have lots of cash for Outreach this year :-) ), we have
> agreed that Wikimedia Kenya will only need to cater for the boarding
> and travel expenses for its participants. We are still ironing out the
> details of hiring or finding a venue. Our audience in Mombasa will
> include guys from GTUG Mombasa and a few techies and developers in
> Mombasa and calling for a few students who would make it to the
> meetup. We have a liaison with the GTUG Guys in Mombasa helping with
> the coordination.
> 
> So this is a call for anyone keen on helping or who has a presentation
> and teaching to do to step forward (A maximum of 3 people). Tentative
> dates are March 9th to 10th
> 
> 
> Your input is eagerly awaited and volunteers too
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa

[Abbas Mahmood]

Thanks for the replies. 

I'm really looking forward to how this event turns out (esp. with regards to 
attendee turnover) since in all our past outreach events, we are the ones 
who've followed the students, and not the other way round.

RE: merch., I only have stickers left with me (plus lots of plus-sized 
t-shirts, if that counts).

--Abbas

> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:13:26 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Outreach 2012 to Mombasa
> 
> Hi Abbas,
> 
> > Thanks for following this through. Thank you
> >
> > 1.) Out of the 3, how many people have signed up so far? I just posted 
> > today this thread with the details. So anyone keen can sign up (on this 
> > thread,so far 0)
> >
> > 2.) what do you mean by hiring a venue? ( Uhhhm, We are not certain to get 
> > a free venue like we always do in Nairobi to host our participants)
> >
> > 3.) which institutions are you planning to visit? We will not be visting 
> > institutions but we will be inviting students and other keen people to the 
> > event.
> >
> > 4.) why are you stating that Wikimedia Kenya is in a state of budgetary
> > insufficiency? Because we do not have Outreach outrightly budgeted in our 
> > Budget or is it? :-)
> 
> 
> >
> > 5.) have you made any merchandise arrangements? For instance, the the
> > locally-printed t-shirts.
> Am in touch with Steve and he informs me that he has the fisrt batch
> of the locally printed t-shirts.
> 
> Steve please care to share more?
> 
> Thannks.
> 
> Find the details here:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya_Outreach_2012
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday Photo Walk

[Abbas Mahmood]

Thanks for the update.

Abbas.

> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:13:52 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday Photo Walk
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Thanks for the comprehensive report. And Am glad you put it so in
> detail that whoever missed should feel "kiwaru" :-)...Just too bad you
> did not mention the fact that I sat on that very seat that President
> Roosevelt and the Prince and the Queen sat on :-)
> 
> 
> I am working on a followup email to the head of Internet Information
> that we were given and will loop all you guys in.
> 
> A BIG thank you to all those who found time (Oliver, Alex, Steve,
> Chris and later Morine and Ednah) to this noble cause. Most
> interesting is the fact that we did NOT even have to pay for the
> permit from Kanjo and Police, Oliver was our permit and for that,
> thanks so much Oliver :-)
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday Photo Walk

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi Oliver,

I'm not sure which documents you are referring to that need to be signed and 
returned to the WMF. However, I presume that it's the Chapters Agreement. If 
that's the case, then:

1) We (or to be precise, I) have not yet received any documentation from the 
Foundation that requires our signing.

2) According to the Board Resolution, we have a time period of one year to sign 
that Agreement.

--Abbas.

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:31:32 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday Photo Walk






















Hi WMKE friends and fellows,

 

We (= Steve, Oscar, Alex, Chris, Morine
and yours truly) had a great photo walk today, starting from the New Tom Mboya
Monument on Moi Avenue and then crossing Haile Selassie to the Nairobi Railway
Museum (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi_Railway_Museum
- and notice that the article doesn’t have a picture yet, which should change
soon!). From there, we went back to Koinange St and ended our walk at the
Savannah Coffee Lounge on Loita St where Wikimedia Kenya had its first 
face-to-face
meeting in July 2010 – so, many historical memories! J

 

I’m looking forward to seeing a
number of photos uploaded onto Commons (Steve, are you going to go through
those 400+ pictures, select the best of each building and post them in the
Category:Nairobi?).

 

At Savannah, there was also some talk of
stream-lining the information of this mailing list with the two WMKE websites
on Meta and @co.ke – currently, some info isn’t available *anywhere* - bother!

 

Finally, we also discussed the upcoming
board elections and suggested that these take place on March 17th (anything
else would be too late – we need to send some documents to WMF with
signatures of board members, so there! – and the next two weekends are
already booked with outreaches to Mombasa
and Egerton). So, within the next 8 days, candidates to the 5 board positions
(Chair, Vice Chair, Treasurer, Secretary and Project / Logistics Officer) need
to write up their profiles. These should be sent to whoever will be in charge
of the elections … another question which has to be solved soonest!

 

So, let’s get cracking so that we
don’t lose our newly won chapterhood!

Yours for making the sum of all human
knowledge available to every single fellow inhabitant of our planet,

Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: stephen wanjau
[mailto:wanjaus...@gmail.com] 

Sent: 24 February 2012 20:34

To: i...@oliverstegen.net

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday
Photo Walk



 

Hello,



So far only six people have filled in their names at the etherpad.



We hope to meet at the Tom Mboya monument, along Tom Mboya Street adjacent to 
Kenya
National Archives at 10:00am where we shall decide which route to take as per
the goals here.



Basic requirements: 


 Camera (not compulsory!)
 Walk/Vehicle to move around/ public transport/
 autos are also okay.
 Data cable/ card reader for transfer of photos.
 Disable on-image timestamps or other data that
 appears over-top of images.
 Please empty the memory card.


Other activities:



 Encourage new people from outside the community
 to join.
 This is a team event. 


Do's:



 Bring plenty of water.
 Do not worry about the angles/ nitty gritties of
 the photo or your camera skills!
 Try and take a clear shot of the building.
 Note down the list of places, names of buildings
 that you photograph.
 If you learn something new about a landmark/
 statue/ building, do pass on the info. It would be very useful to update
 in the wiki pages.
 If you want to leave early, make sure you
 transfer your pictures to team volunteer.


Do not:



 Do not take pictures of people - To maintain a
 level of decency and also not to breach privacy
 Remember that all photos will be used for
 Wikipedia, hence do not include personal photos.
 Personal photos will not be considered for
 selection.
 Do not waste time, respect the time limit.
 Do not go into people's homes to photograph. All
 photos to be buildings/ statues/ landmarks of Nairobi.
 Do not take photos where it is prohibited to do
 so.


Just in
case something is not clear, please feel free to ask.


regards,


Stephen.





 










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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday Photo Walk

[Abbas Mahmood]

Oliver,

thanks for the reply. No, I don't think we should delay the elections. I just 
wanted to clarify the details re the Chapters Agreement.

Thanks, 
Abbas.

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: abbas...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday Photo Walk
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:45:32 +0300






















Hi Abbas,

 

Thanks for clarification. I had
misunderstood the deadline for the signing of the Chapter’s Agreement.
Would you rather that WMKE not rush the board election but take more time? If
nobody steps forward to moderate the election and if no candidates for the five
positions actually apply (or get nominated?) we won’t be able to hold it
on March 17 anyway … Sorry if I stepped on anyone’s toes. I just
thought it better to communicate to the entire mailing list what our little
group of six had discussed on Saturday.

 

Best wishes,

Oliver

 











From: Abbas Mahmood
[mailto:abbas...@hotmail.com] 

Sent: 28 February 2012 20:59

To: i...@oliverstegen.net

Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday
Photo Walk



 



Hi Oliver,



I'm not sure which documents you are referring to that need to be signed and
returned to the WMF. However, I presume that it's the Chapters Agreement. If
that's the case, then:



1) We (or to be precise, I) have not yet received any documentation from the
Foundation that requires our signing.



2) According to the Board Resolution, we have a time period of one year to sign
that Agreement.



--Abbas.







From: i...@oliverstegen.net

To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:31:32 +0300

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya]
Saturday Photo Walk



Hi WMKE friends and fellows,

 

We (= Steve, Oscar, Alex, Chris, Morine
and yours truly) had a great photo walk today, starting from the New Tom Mboya 
Monument
on Moi Avenue and then crossing Haile Selassie to the Nairobi Railway Museum
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nairobi_Railway_Museum - and
notice that the article doesn’t have a picture yet, which should change
soon!). From there, we went back to Koinange St and ended our walk at the
Savannah Coffee Lounge on Loita St where Wikimedia Kenya had its first 
face-to-face
meeting in July 2010 – so, many historical memories! J

 

I’m looking forward to seeing a
number of photos uploaded onto Commons (Steve, are you going to go through
those 400+ pictures, select the best of each building and post them in the
Category:Nairobi?).

 

At Savannah, there was also some talk of
stream-lining the information of this mailing list with the two WMKE websites
on Meta and @co.ke – currently, some info isn’t available *anywhere* - bother!

 

Finally, we also discussed the upcoming
board elections and suggested that these take place on March 17th
(anything else would be too late – we need to send some documents to WMF
with signatures of board members, so there! – and the next two weekends
are already booked with outreaches to Mombasa
and Egerton). So, within the next 8 days, candidates to the 5 board positions
(Chair, Vice Chair, Treasurer, Secretary and Project / Logistics Officer) need
to write up their profiles. These should be sent to whoever will be in charge
of the elections … another question which has to be solved soonest!

 

So, let’s get cracking so that we
don’t lose our newly won chapterhood!

Yours for making the sum of all human
knowledge available to every single fellow inhabitant of our planet,

Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: stephen wanjau
[mailto:wanjaus...@gmail.com] 

Sent: 24 February 2012 20:34

To: i...@oliverstegen.net

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Saturday
Photo Walk



 

Hello,



So far only six people have filled in their names at the etherpad.



We hope to meet at the Tom Mboya monument, along Tom Mboya Street adjacent to 
Kenya
National Archives at 10:00am where we shall decide which route to take as per
the goals here.



Basic requirements: 


 Camera (not compulsory!)
 Walk/Vehicle to move around/ public transport/
 autos are also okay.
 Data cable/ card reader for transfer of photos.
 Disable on-image timestamps or other data that
 appears over-top of images.
 Please empty the memory card.


Other activities:


 Encourage new people from outside the community
 to join.
 This is a team event. 


Do's:


 Bring plenty of water.
 Do not worry about the angles/ nitty gritties of
 the photo or your camera skills!
 Try and take a clear shot of the building.
 Note down the list of places, names of buildings
 that you photograph.
 If you learn something new about a landmark/
 statue/ building, do pass on the info. It would be very useful to update
 in the wiki pages.
 If you want to leave early, make sure you transfer
 your pictures to team volunteer.


Do not:


 Do not take pictures of people - To maintain a
 level of decency and also not to breach privacy
 Remember that all photos will be used for
 Wikipedia, hence do not include personal phot

[Wikimedia Kenya] Chapter Selected Board Seats

[Abbas Mahmood]

Dear all,The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees has two slots that are 
Chapter-Selected 
Trustees(http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announcement).
 The 2012 Chapter Selected Board Seats process has already started. Details 
here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats
The list of candidates vying is publicly available: http:// 
meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats/2012/Candidates. You have 
until 14th March to ask questions to the candidates, so please put your 
questions on this page:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapter-selected_Board_seats/2012/Candidates/Questions(there
 are already some questions and some answers there)

Candidates are not forced to answer, and even if they do, they're not forced to 
answer in public, so might happens that
some answers won't go to meta. Also do keep in mind this isn't a community 
vote. And therefore some discussions will not be publicly available. And since 
we have some Wikimedia Foundation Board Members & Staff on this mailing list, 
we wouldn't be able to hold this discussion on this mailing list. So in case 
you want to discuss a candidate, please do so off-list. And also, in case you 
have a candidate that you'd like to choose on behalf of Wikimedia Kenya, please 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Mombasa Outreach Budget and KU updates

[Abbas Mahmood]

All the best to those who are in Mombasa! Represent us well :-)
Abbas.

> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:15:40 +0300
> From: kipruttob...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Mombasa Outreach Budget and KU updates
> 
> hey
> 
> i too volunteered...
> 
> On 28/02/2012, cliff argwings  wrote:
> > Great Oscar!
> >
> > Good job with the follow up!
> >
> > rgds,
> >
> > //Cliff
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> >
> >> CLiff,
> >>
> >> We only  have 3 people who have volunteered so far and that's th number we
> >> need to the Outreach :
> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Coast Outreach Updates

[Abbas Mahmood]

Thanks for the report Oscar. May I ask: how many people turned up?
Plus during your free time, it might be great if you'd wikify this report onto 
our website (with more details such as turnover, program, pictures, date and 
location.)
Otherwise, thanks for representing us well.
--Abbas.

Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 09:22:31 +
From: oslim...@gmail.com
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CC: community-ke...@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Coast Outreach Updates

Hi ,
So we had a great and eventful outreach in Mombasa over the weekend where we 
met with guys from Mombasa IT society.
Mozilla Kenya Community and Wikimedia Kenya delivered interesting talks to the 
enthusiastic audience of mostly IT profession and students drawn from various 
Universities. It was exciting to see the level of enthusiasm and zeal from the 
audience and they were all willing to start the Mombasa Base for our future 
engagements. 

We managed to distribute the Offline Wikipedia for schools to a couple of 
University students ( about 10) who were rely happy and excited about it. 
One of the main organisers of the event and who is spearheading efforts to 
create the Mombasa IT society offered to use my presentation to other meet-ups 
she was going to have and I gladly obliged. 

We also had the chance to explore the rich culture and "Museum-ish" nature of 
Mombasa ( we all agreed that the whole of Mombasa is a Museum of its own kind  
:-) ) and we will be sharing the pics soon.The outreach was great and we had a 
great team from both camps and we look forward to such great and amazing 
outreach events.


PS: On the 9th to 10th, we have an official invitation to Egerton Universities 
and Steve is taking Charge of the sameOn the week of 14th, we have a date with 
KU and Alex is taking charge of that.


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[Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

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Hi all,
We were developing the content curriculum for the Kenyan curriculum so that we 
could have a custom-made offline Wikipedia version for us here: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects/Content_Development/Schools/Kenyan_Topics.
 Is there anyone who is still working on this? As of now we have articles on 
Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Mathematics, IRE, Agriculture, History & 
Geography. We don't have articles on Business Studies & CRE. Articles re 
Physics, Math, and Geography are too few and still need to be increased. Is 
there anyone here who has access to the Kenyan curriculum willing to fill in 
the blanks?
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

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Hi all,
So apart from Branton, we still need another moderator to oversee the election 
process. Any volunteers?
--Abbas.

> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:32:50 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections
> 
> Wewee! u people are making me feel really out of place now that am
> out of town...i guez Isaac should arrange to serve my cake on
> skype,might also consider flight arrangements from ths part of the
> world through the newly expanded Kisumu International Airport,lol
> Leme use this celebratory mood to thank the whole WMKE team under the
> able leadership of one Abbas,Oscar and the team your efforts was
> exemplary ,
> Lastly will i be in order to request to have my piece of cake on a
> later date?jst kidding
> 
>rgds.
> 
> On 2/10/12, Grace Kariuki  wrote:
> > the cake idea is fantastic
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Ann Njeri  wrote:
> >
> >> Great news
> >>
> >> On Feb 9, 2012 7:14 AM, "morine musyoka"  wrote:
> >>
> >>> wow thats awesome.
> >>> On Feb 9, 2012 9:41 AM, "Kosgei Isaac"  wrote:
> >>>
>  Congrats. I am so proud to be a WMKE Member.
> 
> 
>  On 9 February 2012 09:16, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Receive Congratulations from folks from internal :-) to all of us for
> > the effort and for the recognition as the 39th Chapter.
> >
> >
> > Back to the issue at hand ( Board Elections), I would opine that we
> > discuss all the hows and whats of carrying out the election
> > successfully. Having it on Saturday is such a short time to prepare
> > adequately both to the nominees and voters.
> >
> > See you on Sartuday.
> >
> > PS: I second Mugos suggestion for a Cake on Saturday if not a bash :-)
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups

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Hi,
iHub has confirmed that they are willing to give us some space every last 
Saturday of the month, starting this month on 31 March 2011.
--Abbas.

From: hf...@ushahidi.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:11:36 -0800
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups



On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:Thanks Heather,

yes sure you can help us by pushing up for our group to get a spot.
Your Ushahidi badge should come in handy :-)

Yes! I will add my voice :)

Nice to hear from you again. So how is the research going?

Well, thanks, Oscar. Should be publishing the first results pretty soon. Will 
definitely post here when I do.
Best,Heather.



On 2/7/12, Heather Ford  wrote:
This is wonderful! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help this
along too :)


On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:

Thanks Alex,

Please follow it up. I hear iHub may grant permanent corners to such
groups at their space which will really be a good thing if we get one,
at-least we will have an "office"
keep us posted


On 2/7/12, Alex Wafula  wrote:
I'm on it. One of the managers
of the space had mentioned this; meeting up with him sometime this week.
I'll be looking into getting a permanent date for meetups at the space
(once a month).

Alex




So i just stumbled on this and am traveeling so couldnt wait to share
it. I think we need to be a part of it. so who is going to follow it
up?
www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/02/call-for-ihub-user-groups-and-meetups/

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Free wikimedia browsing by orange kenya

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi,

Wikimedia had announced this partnership quite a long time ago: 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/24/free-mobile-for-wikipedia-starts-with-orange/


Abbas.

Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 16:14:58 +0300
From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Free wikimedia browsing by orange kenya

Hey guys

I hope you are fine. I have it from very credible sources that orange kenya 
wants to introduce free wikimedia browsing on their network. wot do you think?

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:41:07 +0300From: chriwaus...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

Hallo Wikimedians,
It's been a while but I hope we are all well. This serves as a reminder that we 
are supposed to have board elections so that we can proceed with the 
registration process of being a fully recognized chapter. Furthermore, I am 
availing myself to be part of the team of members that will overlook the 
election process.Hi Chris! Thanks for following this up -- I had totally 
forgotten about this: my apologies. Anyway, Branton and Cliff had already 
volunteered to be moderators, but you're more than welcome to join them 
nonetheless. 
 I'll be in contact with all the acting board members on how we shall see 
this activity come to pass successfully. Just for the record, on our last meet 
up we planned to have these elections on the 17th of this month. However, this 
seems to be to soon if we are to have a well planned and executed 
election.Precisely. Some of the moderator tasks that I surmise include 
(but are not limited to) finalizing the Board Elections process: 
http://wikimedia.or.ke/Board_Elections;  brainstorming the voting criteria; 
creating a nominations page; announcing the call for nominees and making any 
other necessary announcements; creating a timeline and of course overseeing the 
actual elections.
 I would like to suggest that we plan for the 31st of March since Ihub 
had offered space for WikimediaKE on the last Saturday of every month. 
+1.
 Also, do we have a time from iHub for our monthly meetings? Morning? 
Midday? Afternoon? Evening?Still unconfirmed. Let me liaise with iHub 
and get back to you.
Sincerely,Abbas.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

[Abbas Mahmood]

David, 
That was discussed quite a while ago: 
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediake/2011-July/001590.html 
--Abbas.


Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:09:41 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections

What are the seats? We need to know who is contesting for what seat. 

David.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:



Thanks Chris for Volunteering for this  and bringing to the attention. It seems 
we have been avoiding this issue for quite sometime and the earlier we settle 
the elections, the better.



For Starter, let us have guys interested in the Board respond to this thread 
...we may just be preparing for an election that we may not need in the first 
place :-) 


So we have 5 seats on the board...
Consider this My Nomination-- 

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,
There has been some mis-communication between myself and iHub -- the latter had 
scheduled our meetup to be 31st of next month, rather than this month. So, 
since iHub is already booked on 31st March, we'll have to push the meetup to 
7th April or look for another venue and stick with our original date. What's 
your preference?
--Abbas.


Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 00:59:54 +0300
From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups

Hello,
This is great news to our community.
Ihub ni yetu;)
Best,

Stephen.
On Mar 8, 2012 11:53 PM, "Asaf Bartov"  wrote:

Fantastic news!  A regular venue is a big step forward.  Congrats, WMKE! :)
   A.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:33 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:







Hi,
iHub has confirmed that they are willing to give us some space every last 
Saturday of the month, starting this month on 31 March 2011.



--Abbas.


From: hf...@ushahidi.com
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 11:11:36 -0800



To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups



On Feb 7, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:
Thanks Heather,

yes sure you can help us by pushing up for our group to get a spot.
Your Ushahidi badge should come in handy :-)




Yes! I will add my voice :)

Nice to hear from you again. So how is the research going?

Well, thanks, Oscar. Should be publishing the first results pretty soon. Will 
definitely post here when I do.



Best,Heather.



On 2/7/12, Heather Ford  wrote:
This is wonderful! Let me know if there's anything I can do to help this



along too :)


On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Limoke Oscar wrote:




Thanks Alex,

Please follow it up. I hear iHub may grant permanent corners to such



groups at their space which will really be a good thing if we get one,
at-least we will have an "office"



keep us posted


On 2/7/12, Alex Wafula  wrote:



I'm on it. One of the managers
of the space had mentioned this; meeting up with him sometime this week.



I'll be looking into getting a permanent date for meetups at the space



(once a month).

Alex










So i just stumbled on this and am traveeling so couldnt wait to share



it. I think we need to be a part of it. so who is going to follow it
up?



www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/02/call-for-ihub-user-groups-and-meetups/




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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

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Yayyy! Hopefully, the custom-made version of offline Wikipedia will be out soon 
so that we can use it in this project. 
Thank you David.
--Abbas.

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:11:20 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

Thanks guys, I think I will get Hon. Hassan to also get the press to cover 
this, it will assist us in the publicity we need to get people to know that the 
Wikimedia community exists.

David.


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Awesome David,

I will be happy to provide with remote tech help but definitely wont be 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

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David, 
Yep, good idea. Count me in. We could easily finish it in one meetup if we'd 
all crowdsource.
--Abbas.

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:28:20 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

Guys, 

Can we have a meetup also to discuss and finalize on the Kenya School Syllabus? 
I can sponsor Nyama choma for 10 people.

David.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Grace Kariuki  wrote:

good work


On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:15 AM, morine musyoka  
wrote:

Hello everyone,
This is a great initiative,
I would be glad to take part in this.:-)
Morine.



On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Kosgei Isaac  wrote:
> This is a good Idea David.
> I wanna mention that I talked to the schools that I did the Pilot in Nakuru


> and they dont use it because the version is not in the context they teach in
> class. My advice is before we go to schools lets first work on getting a
> Kenyan version.
> Isaac K. Kosgei.
>


> On 26 March 2012 21:41, Sameer Muiruri  wrote:
>>
>> That is great work guys, especially David.
>>

>> 

>> From: David Mugo 
>> To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.
>> 


>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:28 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>>
>> When is a good time to do this? Consider schools are closing soon for the


>> April holidays.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Abbas Mahmood 
>> wrote:

>>

>> Yayyy! Hopefully, the custom-made version of offline Wikipedia will be out
>> soon so that we can use it in this project.
>>
>> Thank you David.
>>
>> --Abbas.
>>


>>
>> 
>> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:11:20 +0300
>> From: raidar...@gmail.com
>> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org


>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
>>
>>
>> Thanks guys, I think I will get Hon. Hassan to also get the press to cover
>> this, it will assist us in the publicity we need to get people to know that


>> the Wikimedia community exists.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Limoke Oscar  wrote:

>>

>> Awesome David,
>>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Ihub call for Organized group meetups

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While we wait for the moderators response, it seems to me that the majority of 
the people (who responded) would prefer us to stick with the same date. So 
David, is the Public Service Club freely available. Or do we have to pay to use 
it? It'd be important for us to know the expected costs in advance, before the 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank you

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Oh my goodness, Lisper! May I ask you to please pause and breathe in (and out) 
before sending unnecessary emails to this list? I am quite overwhelmed by my 
almost unmanageable inbox, and would highly appreciate it if we'd stop flooding 
people's inboxes.
--Abbas.



Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:44:47 -0700
From: lispermwe...@yahoo.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank  you

thank you for the security
that was very good of you
that's why i choose to work with you
am assured of security.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank you

[Abbas Mahmood]

Sorry for being blunt :-|
I have heard lots of complaints about this mailing list from both local chapter 
members, Wikipedia editors, and the wider Wikimedia community. Phoebe once 
mentioned something about mailing lists that I believe is worth sharing:
One point that I have thought about, and talked about privately with
some of you, is (particularly on a list like this) how much time --
how many person-hours -- is spent on each email. An email list where
the entire staff and chapters officers are subscribed means that each
email is read by a few hundred people, many of whom are getting paid
and/or who have serious institutional responsibilities. So even if a
long mail only takes 5 minutes to read, parse and think about, how
many person-hours (and in turn donor dollars, lost productivity, or
time taken from other things) are being spent? Let's be optimistic and
assume that any given email is only read by *half* the list. 5 minutes
x 100 people = 500 minutes / 60 = 8.3 hours.

So one full workday -- 8 hours of our collective time -- for each long
email. That is a heavy burden to ask of ourselves, and a heavy
responsibility on those of us (like me!!!) who go on at length in
their mails!
Being the admin of this list, I have seen s many people unsubscribe to this 
list, mostly because they have found it nonconstructive and lots of lip-service 
going on. So people can be free to post whatever they want on this mailing 
list, but that doesn't mean that we are free from the repercussions of what we 
say. The consequence of this being a list that is ignored, or people 
unsubscribe, or even get added to a kill file.
So we can therefore continue on as we are, and reap whatever the results of 
that are or individuals can choose to self-moderate.
The choice is yours!
Abbas. 

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:02:15 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank you
From: njeria...@gmail.com
To: abbas...@hotmail.com

that wasn't sooo kind

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:





Oh my goodness, Lisper! May I ask you to please pause and breathe in (and out) 
before sending unnecessary emails to this list? I am quite overwhelmed by my 
almost unmanageable inbox, and would highly appreciate it if we'd stop flooding 
people's inboxes.

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:44:47 -0700
From: lispermwe...@yahoo.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] thank  you

thank you for the security
that was very good of you
that's why i choose to work with you

am assured of security.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections 2012

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,

David, do you mind booking the Public service club for us?

Chris and I suggested that we start this meeting early, (probably at 10am?) so 
that we can wind up early and go to Pizza Inn for lunch. We would've preferred 
to order some pizzas to be delivered at the Club, but I'm assuming that they 
won't allow us to come with food from outside.

Abbas.


Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:45:50 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections 2012

Great, looking forward to it.

A small observation, the bios page has 7 candidates, I would like to request 
Isaac to remove his bio from the top of the page since he was among the last 
ones to post his bio, let Ann's which was the first to be posted remain on top. 


I know this is simply a formatting issue but to me, it goes back to portray 
other values in a person. It can easily be translated as self appointed 
dominance, which is not fair or democratic and is not a leadership value. 


David.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:40 AM, cliff argwings  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

So yesterday, the Electoral team met finalize on the arrangements for the
forthcoming board elections to be held on Saturday, 31st March - 2012. Below 
are the key
points to note -:

1. The elections date remains as announced earlier on, 31 - 03 - 2012, 
beginning from 


12 noon.

2. Voting by Proxy still allowed in any case need might be. The person who wants
to vote by Proxy has to therefore mention his proxy before the due date and
send them with the necessary requirements for the voting process.



3. All contestants registered will be allowed to take part as candidates. No one
will be disqualified as far as eligibility is concerned for their candidature, 
unless 
otherwise proven!

4. For the Q & A session, the electoral team welcomes all questions starting


today, an official compilation of the questions will be sent out today as well.
The session will run through Thursday till Friday.

5. Friday is a 'Free Day'!  We'll be taking any views and comments with regards


to the Elections process!

Lastly we'd like to invite everyone to come and be part of this Great History 
in the
making, 'The First Board Elections - WMKE Chapter' !

Warm Regards,

//Cliff





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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

[Abbas Mahmood]

> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300
> From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available
> now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am
> sure it will help them lotz.
> 
> Gerrard

Hi Gerrard,
Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had 
installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the 
content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version, 
because we don't want to repeat past mistakes.
David, 
I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us after the 
Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could also act as a 
get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience at the Chapters 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections 2012

[Abbas Mahmood]

I've created an etherpad: 
http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/3te5azOUIp. Please add up your name if you're 
intending to come and also add any topic that you wish to be discussed.
Abbas.

> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:15:25 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board Elections 2012
> 
> David & Oscar ,your concerns are not only legitimate but genuine , i
> want to believe that  as you have rightfully pointed  out that its
> just but a formatting issue ,& we are better placed to sort out that
> ,i undertake to rectify that ASAP !Meanwhile i would i urge everyone
> to torn down n not let emotions get the better of us on things that
> can be reslved amicably by the team ,it falls within our mandate
> to ensure a fair uncontested elections.
> 
> Branton
> 
> 
> On 3/28/12, Limoke Oscar  wrote:
> > David,
> >
> > I agree. Isaac you should conform to the existing norms like all of us did.
> >
> > So when is the team officially telling us who will be voting and the
> > voting criteria and how the voting process is going be like?
> >
> > On 3/28/12, David Mugo  wrote:
> >> Great, looking forward to it.
> >>
> >> A small observation, the bios page has 7 candidates, I would like to
> >> request Isaac to remove his bio from the top of the page since he was
> >> among
> >> the last ones to post his bio, let Ann's which was the first to be posted
> >> remain on top.
> >>
> >> I know this is simply a formatting issue but to me, it goes back to
> >> portray
> >> other values in a person. It can easily be translated as self appointed
> >> dominance, which is not fair or democratic and is not a leadership value.
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:40 AM, cliff argwings
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> So yesterday, the Electoral team met finalize on the arrangements for the
> >>> forthcoming board elections to be held on Saturday, 31st March - 2012.
> >>> Below are the key
> >>> points to note -:
> >>>
> >>> 1. The elections date remains as announced earlier on, 31 - 03 - 2012,
> >>> beginning from
> >>> 12 noon.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Voting by Proxy still allowed in any case need might be. The person
> >>> who
> >>> wants
> >>> to vote by Proxy has to therefore mention his proxy before the due date
> >>> and
> >>> send them with the necessary requirements for the voting process.
> >>>
> >>> 3. All contestants registered will be allowed to take part as candidates.
> >>> No one
> >>> will be disqualified as far as eligibility is concerned for their
> >>> candidature, unless
> >>> otherwise proven!
> >>>
> >>> 4. For the Q & A session, the electoral team welcomes all questions
> >>> starting
> >>> today, an official compilation of the questions will be sent out today as
> >>> well.
> >>> The session will run through Thursday till Friday.
> >>>
> >>> 5. Friday is a 'Free Day'!  We'll be taking any views and comments with
> >>> regards
> >>> to the Elections process!
> >>>
> >>> Lastly we'd like to invite everyone to come and be part of this Great
> >>> History in the
> >>> making, 'The First Board Elections - WMKE Chapter' !
> >>>
> >>> Warm Regards,
> >>>
> >>> //Cliff
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
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> >> ICT & E-Commerce Consultant,
> >> http://majibu.com
> >> Twitter: @raidarmax
> >>
> >
> >
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> > Limoke Oscar,
> > "*point me to the destiny,and I will curve my own path to it *"
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

[Abbas Mahmood]

Gerrard,
I agree with you whole-heartedly that it can be used to broaden students' 
minds. But you are missing one very important aspect: that History student in 
Kamukunji is more interested cramming in Colonization in Kenya (which is not 
found in offline Wikipedia) than reading (for leisure) a history topic such as 
The British Empire (which is found in the version we installed). IMO, high 
school students want to read content for the sake of passing exams. Period. And 
the SOS version fails at delivering such goals.
Now we have to choices: either to use the current version of Wikipedia and 
distribute it (hoping against hope that we'll receive positive results contrary 
to the feedback we got at the pilot), or incorporate the feedback, create a 
custom-made version for Kenyan students and hope that this time round, we'll be 
able to increase Wikipedia readership in Kenya. I'd personally vouch for the 
latter, since I think that it's morally wrong for us to _not_ use the learnings 
from the past in our future projects, especially when it involves donor funds.
Abbas.

Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:48:45 +0300
From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools

David,
Just a quick question.What was the discussion? I thought it was about assisting 
students in Kamukunji. Sorry if i deviated from that. I do hope you have a good 
party though.

Abbas
I know it is under development but considering the non-digital encyclopedias i 
had in my former school, the offline wikipedia is far more useful than you 
would know. It may be irrelevant to curricula but usefull to broaden the 
students minds.


On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Mugo  wrote:

Abbas,

Thanks for pointing out that Gerrald's view was not relative to the discussion. 
I would like to suggest something for all new members, please take time to 
study the activities we have undertaken before making contributions. 



I will only be able to host a maximum of 12 people at my place so again I will 
chose to go for old members due to oblivious reasons. The weekend after Easter 
on Saturday I have a high school get together so I will not be available. 



Maybe we can take a quick survey to see who would be available on the Easter 
Sunday evening... Monday is is holiday. If we make 10 people +, we are good to 
go. People who have not at all been involved with the Wikipedia for Schools 
project will get the least consideration for this one.



David.

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:






> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:34:37 +0300
> From: gerrardkos...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org


> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia for Kamukunji Schools
> 
> Hi guys
> 
> The nairobi skuls idea is great. Lets just give them what is available
> now, we can always upgrade it when the kenyan version is out. I am


> sure it will help them lotz.
> 
> Gerrard

Hi Gerrard,
Your assumption is flawed: we've called a number of schools that we had 
installed the offline Wikipedia and the feedback that we got was that the 
content wasn't relevant. This is why we are working on a Kenyan version, 
because we don't want to repeat past mistakes.


David, 
I agree with Stephen and think that you should consider hosting us after the 
Berlin meeting (probably on the weekend after Easter?). It could also act as a 
get-together for us to hear Stephen's and Alex's experience at the Chapters 
Meeting. Thanks for the offer :-)


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Update from the electoral team

[Abbas Mahmood]

In Wikimedia, we use IRC (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat )
--Abbas.

Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:41:51 +0300
From: oslim...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Update from the electoral team

I cannot be on Skype, 
Is another Virtual Room possible? I propose Google Plus Hangout, its easier and 
all of us can use it with ease.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS BY KOSGEI

[Abbas Mahmood]

Branton,

Thank you for posting Isaac's responses. Following his responses, I have some 
questions for Isaac. Should I send them to you off-list, or ask them on this 
thread?

Abbas.

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:33:28 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS BY KOSGEI
> 
> Hello Board,
> Here are the answers to the  questions
> 1. Why do you think you suit to be in the board of WMKE?
> I have been a part of WMKE for over a year now and I have seen it
> grow. I understand the tasksand challenges that lie ahead and I
> believe taking a lead role as a Board member I am going to leverage on
> the lessons and experiences that I have learned since I joined so that
> we Make Wikimedia Kenya a chapter of excellence and a model to be
> emulated all across our continent.
> Having worked in the education and technology field for quite sometime
> I know that knowledge is a great resource that has the capacity to
> change generations and alter the course of history for the better. I
> am therefore very supportive of the Wikimedia Vision and I will bring
> with me my experience as an open source enthusiast and a Webfwd for
> the success of the chapter.
> 
> 2. What is your take on the level of participation of members in WMKE
> projects/meetings/mailing list? Anything you think should be done
> differently?
> 
> We Should work to improve member participation and come up with
> projects. I do believe the mailing list is a good form of
> communication but only if used in the right way so that we have only
> the most important and relevant information on the mailing list and
> not too much that it causes inconvenience.
> 
> 3. As a board needs members with different skills (e.g.
> administrative, financial, public relations etc), please tell us which
> particular skill set have you worked in previously, like in another
> society or organisation?
> 
> I bring with me plenty of experience in management having worked in
> the educational field as an administrative assistant at Bridge
> international Academies, as an Operations Associate at Mprep and also
> as agribusiness officer at PanAAC.
> 
> I am also good in networking and building communities and I hope to
> use this skills in improving wikimedia Kenya
> 
> 4. Which languages have you worked in so far? And what is your
> position on both a language policy and a language strategy for WMKE?
> 
> I have worked on Swahili and English and I beleive we should really
> work more in improving the local languages
> particularly swahili.
> 
> 5. How would you best deal with the issue of editor attraction and
> retention in our local chapter so as to ensure the growth of WMKE as a
> whole?
> 
> I will encourage more outreach projects to educational institutions
> and also work towards having entry level projects for the newbies. e.g
> Wikpedia Takes Nairobi.
> 
> 6. Now that we are an independent chapter, how do you plan to raise
> funds supposing the parent Wikimedia Foundation won't avail funds to
> run the aforementioned project?
> 
> Having taken part in the annual fundraiser I learned a lot of lessons
> on the topic.
> 
> 1. Wikimedia Fundraiser is facilitated by 2 things, Banners and Appeals.
> 
> 2. The banners and appeals used in other parts of the world may not
> have the same impact as it does here in Kenya.
> 
> We therefore need to come up with Banners and that best describe our
> local experience and also have a lower level of contribution that most
> people can afford. I am thinking of the Kenyans for Kenya intitiative
> where it was possible for people to donate as low as 10Shs.
> 
> Therefore working with the team we will come up with the best
> fundraiser strategy that best fits our local chapter.
> 
> 7. What kind of a project/ activity would you envision WMKE and its
> members undertake in order to fulfill the objectives of Wikimedia
> Foundation as a whole?
> 
> We need to further on the exiting offline project and also work on
> attracting more editors in our Swahili Wikipedia. My goal is to have
> at least 300 edits per month on Swahili Wikipedia.
> 
> The other project is partnering with chapters in other parts of the
> world on potential projects that can be replicated locally. e.g the
> Wik1 Africa project.
> 
> 
> Warmly,
> Isaac K. Kosgei.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI

[Abbas Mahmood]

Branton,

It is quite unclear which candidate answered these questions. Please clarify. 
Also, do indicate whether these Q's are coming from the electoral team or 
ordinary members.

Abbas.

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:45:23 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI
> 
> 1. Why do you think you suit to be in the board of WKME?
> Firstly, I am willing to contribute my time and other resources as a
> leader as I seek to serve others with the objective of attaining the
> common good for society as a whole. I know there are those specialized
> skills and talents that I have which will contribute to build WKME,
> especially the Kenyan chapter.   I may not know much but I’m willing
> to learn and I believe that’s the most important thing. I am a team
> player who believes that the more is yielded when we collaborate. We
> also need a female representative on the board and a place which I am
> ready to take up.
> 2. What is your take on the level of participation of members in the
> WKME projects/meetings/mailing list? Anything   you think should be
> done differently?
> There is room for improvement, I speak also for myself. We need to be
> more dedicated to the projects that we do as well as build the spirit
> of solidarity in our midst by taking all successes and failures as a
> team and not individually.
> I would suggest that we attempt to have online meetings where we can
> conference as well as chat live. This will help counter the problem of
> unavailability of members for the meet-ups, increase number of
> meetings and kill the problem of need for geographical proximity.
> 3. As a board needs members with different skills (e.g.
> administrative, financial, public relations etc) please tell us which
> particular skill set you have worked in previously, like another
> society or organization?
> I have accounting skills that have been gained not only theoretically
> but practically. I have completed CPA (certified Public Accountant).
> I have also worked in Sarova Stanley in the accounts department. This
> will help assist greatly in maintaining accurate accounts based on
> accounting standards requirements.
>  I am also a marketer having only one year left to complete my degree
> in Marketing and Finance. Early next month I will be working in
> Synovate Kenya, a research firm. The skills gained therein will be
> useful for us to develop strategies and invest in research that is
> useful in solving various challenges we have like getting and
> retaining editors.
> I also serve in the Leadership of Global Leadership interlink (GLI),
> an international organization that is seeking to build leaders in
> their formative years so that they can uphold ethical principles all
> through their lives. We carry out duties like organizing conferences,
> training of members, preparing content to be taught and discussed
> among other administrative tasks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 4. Which languages have you worked in so far? And what is your
> position on both a language policy and language strategy for WMKE?
> Sadly I have not worked in any languages so far but I do intend to in
> the future. A language strategy can be that of getting as many tribes
> as possible to contribute to building of Wikipedia. It may seem
> difficult but we have an example from the current local radio stations
> broadcasted in various local languages to learn from. Our pride comes
> from our culture which gives us our identity, something we should all
> be proud of.
> 5. How would you best deal with the issue of editor attraction and
> retention in our local chapter to ensure the growth of WKME as a
> whole?
>  I think the best place to start is to research into the question “Why
> don’t people edit, and if they do, why are most people not committed?”
> The answers to the above questions can give us a guide to formulate
> strategy that will increase and retain editors.
> On speculation though, I think the idea of Wikimedia has not really
> sunk in the mind of many Kenyans let alone the issue of editing. I
> remember when we went to Kenyatta University and one of the senior
> lecturers had not heard of the concept Wikipedia. There is need to
> increase the sensitization that will help us attract more Kenyans. We
> need to come up with appeals that will reach out to the human
> component in all humans; that of contributing to the common good of
> all. There is need to communicate the benefits that people will get
> once they become contributors because most people look at their end of
> the deal “What’s in it for me?” The benefits need not be monetary
> because the last thing we need to do is increase our costs.
> 
> 6. Now that we are an independent chapter, how do you plan to raise
> funds supposing the parent Wikipedia Foundation won’t avail funds to
> run the aforementioned project?
> Partnerships are crucial, which can be very fruitful in a day when
> firms ar

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI

[Abbas Mahmood]

Never mind, Branton. Chris beat me to it :)

From: abbas...@hotmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 18:01:16 +
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI


Branton,

It is quite unclear which candidate answered these questions. Please clarify. 
Also, do indicate whether these Q's are coming from the electoral team or 
ordinary members.

Abbas.

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:45:23 +0300
> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI
> 
> 1. Why do you think you suit to be in the board of WKME?
> Firstly, I am willing to contribute my time and other resources as a
> leader as I seek to serve others with the objective of attaining the
> common good for society as a whole. I know there are those specialized
> skills and talents that I have which will contribute to build WKME,
> especially the Kenyan chapter.   I may not know much but I’m willing
> to learn and I believe that’s the most important thing. I am a team
> player who believes that the more is yielded when we collaborate. We
> also need a female representative on the board and a place which I am
> ready to take up.
> 2. What is your take on the level of participation of members in the
> WKME projects/meetings/mailing list? Anything   you think should be
> done differently?
> There is room for improvement, I speak also for myself. We need to be
> more dedicated to the projects that we do as well as build the spirit
> of solidarity in our midst by taking all successes and failures as a
> team and not individually.
> I would suggest that we attempt to have online meetings where we can
> conference as well as chat live. This will help counter the problem of
> unavailability of members for the meet-ups, increase number of
> meetings and kill the problem of need for geographical proximity.
> 3. As a board needs members with different skills (e.g.
> administrative, financial, public relations etc) please tell us which
> particular skill set you have worked in previously, like another
> society or organization?
> I have accounting skills that have been gained not only theoretically
> but practically. I have completed CPA (certified Public Accountant).
> I have also worked in Sarova Stanley in the accounts department. This
> will help assist greatly in maintaining accurate accounts based on
> accounting standards requirements.
>  I am also a marketer having only one year left to complete my degree
> in Marketing and Finance. Early next month I will be working in
> Synovate Kenya, a research firm. The skills gained therein will be
> useful for us to develop strategies and invest in research that is
> useful in solving various challenges we have like getting and
> retaining editors.
> I also serve in the Leadership of Global Leadership interlink (GLI),
> an international organization that is seeking to build leaders in
> their formative years so that they can uphold ethical principles all
> through their lives. We carry out duties like organizing conferences,
> training of members, preparing content to be taught and discussed
> among other administrative tasks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 4. Which languages have you worked in so far? And what is your
> position on both a language policy and language strategy for WMKE?
> Sadly I have not worked in any languages so far but I do intend to in
> the future. A language strategy can be that of getting as many tribes
> as possible to contribute to building of Wikipedia. It may seem
> difficult but we have an example from the current local radio stations
> broadcasted in various local languages to learn from. Our pride comes
> from our culture which gives us our identity, something we should all
> be proud of.
> 5. How would you best deal with the issue of editor attraction and
> retention in our local chapter to ensure the growth of WKME as a
> whole?
>  I think the best place to start is to research into the question “Why
> don’t people edit, and if they do, why are most people not committed?”
> The answers to the above questions can give us a guide to formulate
> strategy that will increase and retain editors.
> On speculation though, I think the idea of Wikimedia has not really
> sunk in the mind of many Kenyans let alone the issue of editing. I
> remember when we went to Kenyatta University and one of the senior
> lecturers had not heard of the concept Wikipedia. There is need to
> increase the sensitization that will help us attract more Kenyans. We
> need to come up with appeals that will reach out to the human
> component in all humans; that of contributing to the common good of
> all. There is need to communicate the benefits that people will get
> once they become contributors because most people look at their end of
> the deal “What’s in it for me?” The benefits need not be monetary
> because the last thing we need to do is increase our costs.
> 
> 6. Now that we are an independent chapt

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI

[Abbas Mahmood]

Oh, thanks for clarifying that Oliver. I had also suggested that these 
questions be posted on-wiki to the electoral team, for the same reasons you 
mentioned. So, yes, I support on-wiki Q&A. Those who don't know how to edit can 
respond/ask on the mailing list and then we can cross-post them on-wiki.

Abbas.

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 21:21:54 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI



















Abbas,

The name of the candidate answering
appears in the subject line. As I too had problems with reading the answers in
unformatted email messages, I’ve set up a page on our WMKE wiki 
(http://wikimedia.or.ke/Board_Elections/Q%26A)
plus corresponding sub-pages with your further question to each candidate, and
hope that this can be used by us. If my proposal doesn’t meet with approval, I’m
happy to have those pages deleted again (I haven’t even copied in the answers
of the candidates yet as I don’t want to bypass the electoral committee).

Best wishes,

Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: Abbas Mahmood
[mailto:abbas...@hotmail.com] 

Sent: 29 March 2012 21:01

To:
wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] ANSWERS
TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI



 



Branton,



It is quite unclear which candidate answered these questions. Please clarify.
Also, do indicate whether these Q's are coming from the electoral team or
ordinary members.



Abbas.



> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 20:45:23 +0300

> From: bruceobw...@gmail.com

> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya]
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS BY ANN NJERI

> 



 











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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS BY KOSGEI

[Abbas Mahmood]

OK, Since it seems that Isaac's preferential mode of answering the questions is 
via this list, I will engage him here. 
Isaac, I am not sure whether you understood my question. What I basically asked 
is for you to tell me of an incident, if any, where you led a group that had 
divergent to achieve consensus. In the scenario that you just gave, 1) you 
withdrew your nomination and 2) I fail to see the part where you were able to 
convince us to let Stephen go to Tanzania, since there weren't any members who 
(openly) opposed to Stephen's going. [You can check the archives to see the 
role that you played when we were discussing the Tanzania training: 
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediake/2011-November/thread.html]
Best,Abbas.

> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:02:53 +0300
> From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS BY KOSGEI
> 
> The answer to the question by Abbas is that when we were looking for
> someone to sent to Tanzania  in November last year we had a number of
> people who had indicated interest to attend me included and we only
> needed one person, in my firm beleive that we need more members to get
> new experience I offered to withdraw my intend to attend and to
> support a member who had not participated before thus endorsed Steve
> and hence make the process easier.
> 
> On 29/03/2012, Chris Riwa  wrote:
> > Hi Kosgei,
> > Please respond to the question below:
> >
> > Can you describe a time --either in your Wikimedia work or elsewhere-- in
> > which you were able to help people with strongly-different views reach a
> > successful outcome on an important issue, via a consensus-seeking process?
> > (Abbas)
> >
> > --
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> > Mobile: *+254(0)725-930-850
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> >
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> >
> > Skype: *chriwaustin*
> > Twitter: *@chriwaustin*
> > Facebook: *facebook.com/chriwaustin*
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,

Thanks for that reminder, Alex.

Let me start by saying that we are a scrappy start-up with all the 
experimentation and chaos that implies. We aren't a smoothly-sailing ship: 
we're building our ship. That means that roles and responsibilities aren't 
always clear, systems and procedures haven't been tested and refined over time. 
This is quite normal for young organizations.

I do not think that what you just said will set a binding precedence since the 
criteria for the eligibility of running for the board is not in the bylaws. 
Whatever we do now is non-binding. Therefore, one can't come to us 5 years on, 
and force us to use the same procedure that we are using today.

I purposely left out such nitty-gritty elements out of the bylaws since I know 
that with time, they are bound to change. That with each election year, we will 
have gotten smarter about what kinds of people flourish as Board Members and 
why. I therefore expect that with time, maturity, and once we get bigger, 
Wikimedia Kenya will strive for continual improvement and be able to refine its 
bylaws and have some binding voting criteria.

I am therefore willing to risk being lax this time round.

Abbas.

Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:51:54 -0700
From: oscar_okw...@yahoo.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence

Forward thinking i like this.

Okwero Oscar

--- On Fri, 3/30/12, Alex Wafula  wrote:

From: Alex Wafula 
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence
To: "Wikimediake Mailing List" 
Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 1:26 PM

Hi all,

The electrol team mentioned that they'd review bios of the nominees and 
determine if they qualify to run as per our discussions here: [1], but I don't 
think this has been done. I know this might seem as a dumper but it would be 
sad if we created a precedence for this to happen in the future as well.


I've only brought this up because it is something we agreed on as a team and 
not as a means to disqualify some nominees. To the electrol team, Kindly review 
this concern and post some feedback.

My advice, implement this [1] or review it not for individual but for the 
betterment of WMKE. In short, we need to know the grounds under which people 
qualify for candidacy.


[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wikimedia-kenya-meet-up

regards,
Alex


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[Wikimedia Kenya] [Announcement] Wikimedia Kenya's New Board

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,

It is with great pleasure for me to announce the inaugural Wikimedia Kenya 
board that comprises of:

Alex Wafula
Ann Njeri
David Mugo
Oscar Limoke
Stephen Wanjau

The Board's got a diverse range of experience -- with folks working in the 
government sector, internet industry, financial expertise and leadership skills.

I think that they're a good fit for our egalitarian, international, non-profit 
culture. And we've got a woman on the Board, which matters to me because we 
will have someone to relate to, when it comes to gender-gap issues :)

Many thanks to those who assisted in the elections process: Chris, Branton, 
Cliff & Oliver. And many thanks to all the nominees who took their time to 
submit their candidature and also answer our questions.

Let's all welcome our new Board as they orient themselves in their new roles.

Thanks,
Abbas.

PS -- Note to the Board: I've forwarded your names to be added to Internal & 
Chapters Mailing Lists. I am also looking into creating your Board Mailing List.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Board Meeting

[Abbas Mahmood]

Oliver,
iHub is available this month. If you guys want to have a meetup, please tell me 
the preferred date and I'll book it for you.
Thanks,Abbas.

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:55:43 +0300
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First Board Meeting

























Actually, won’t we be having a
chapter meeting at iHub later this month?

Please advertise our regular slot at iHub
accordingly. Thanks!

 











From: Jon Harald Søby
[mailto:jhs...@gmail.com] 

Sent: 11 April 2012 14:29

To: The discussion list for the
upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] First
Board Meeting



 

I would
suggest holding an open-to-all wikimeet after the board meeting - that's what
we do in Wikimedia Norway,
and it is a good opportunity for people to get together. Good luck with the
first meeting!

Greetings
from Gisenyi, Rwanda! ;-)



Den 10. apr. 2012 16:19 skrev "Alex Wafula"  følgende:

Hi Mabiria,



The meeting's meant for WMKE's 5 board members. Our discussions/resolutions
will be made publicly available though.



Alex

Hi all,



Who are eligible to attend the board meeting?



Regards,



David Mabiria

Project Manager - EUCOSSA

www.eucossa.org



On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Alex Wafula 
wrote:

Hi all,



We'll be having our first Board meeting this Saturday ie on the 14th of April.
Agenda's up here: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-Board-meeting-1



You are welcomed to contribute to the agenda and being our first meetup, we'll
cover relatively urgent topics and postpone some (if necessary) for when we
meet next.



Steve and I will also use this opportunity to give a report of the Chapters
Conference that happened over at Berlin
as well as make recommendations for the two chapter selected WMF Board members
after that.



regards,

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Board minutes

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,
> On 18.04.2012 22:06, Ann Njeri wrote:
> > The board was of the opinion that we should be posting the board minutes
> > as well as other important discussions on a google doc which will be
> > created so as to protect those who have access to the information. This
> > is also because there are many who have subscribed to the mailing list
> > that are passive members. Alternatively, I can use the Meta to post the
> > board minutes as Abbas had suggested. Please comment on this so that we
> > can know the way forward.

I think that what we should keep in mind is that Wikimedia's core values is 
transparency and openness. WMF's Board Minutes are usually publicly available: 
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Meetings and the Resolutions that are made 
even show what each Board Member voted for: 
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Fundraising_2012. I think that 
this is quite important for us (as members) to know since 1) It improves the 
accountability of Board Members and 2)Knowing what each Board Member voted for 
what is crucial for me. Since if a Board Member wants to be re-elected, I would 
(personally as a voting member) want to know whether his actions -- or 
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[Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,

I am assuming that most of the Wikimania scholarship applicants have gotten 
their responses by now. For those who succeeded, congratulations. For those who 
didn't please forward me your name and I will try and explore other channels of 
sponsorship. I will contact other chapters and affiliated organisations to 
request some funding. I don't have any assurances, so please bear with me if we 
don't get the desired results.

Thanks,
Abbas.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup/Editathon

[Abbas Mahmood]

Sorry wouldn't be able to make it. Enjoy yourselves.
Abbas.

> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:17:02 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup/Editathon
> 
> Count me in, so whats the time and anything we need to know/come up with?
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[Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,
Could we get Wikimedia Kenya's Board to select it's prefered candidates in the 
Chapter-Selected WMF Board seats: 
http://chapters.wikimedia.ch/Appointment_process/2012/Chapters_Resolutions
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

[Abbas Mahmood]

Alex,

We have WMF Board Members, WMF Staff & Nominees on this list. So we have 2 
options:

1) I can temporarily remove these people from our mailing list, and add them 
back later on.

2) Have this discussion off-list, with discussions being sent over batch emails 
to interested chapter members.

I'd personally go for Option 2, since even if I remove members from this list, 
the discussion archives are still publicly available and therefore easily 
accessible.

What do others think?

Abbas.

Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:12:06 +0300
From: xelaw...@gmail.com
To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

Hi BT,

Yah, the editathone never happened. We had a good quorum of around 10 guys but 
unfortunately, unforeseen events at Mugo's place (the venue) left us without a 
venue. We tried looking for alternatives but didn't get a workable one so we 
had to abort it.


It was decided that we move the editathone to 30th but later on suggestions of 
just having someone work on the list came up considering the number of times 
we've had to postpone this. I'll have a new thread for a followup.


So back to WMF chapter selected seats. It's common that chapters discuss this 
off list or on internal lists, do you think we can do it on this list because I 
don't foresee a meetup before the 5th of July.


cheers,
alex

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Oliver Stegen  wrote:


















What, the editathon never happened? Or
just the discussion during the editathon?

If the editathon happened, updates please J


Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: Alex Wafula
[mailto:xelaw...@gmail.com] 

Sent: 22 April 2012 15:19

To: The
 discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya]
Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats



 

We already have
recommendations as a board on this thatt we'd like to passby chapter members
before passing a resolution. We hoped to have a light discussion yestrerday
during the editathon which never happened. We have till 5th of May for
consensus by chapters for these seats after which chapters will have to vote
incase a consensus isn't arrived at.



Feedback from the board is coming up soon...



cheers,

Alex



On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:






Hi all,



 





Could we get Wikimedia Kenya's Board
to select it's prefered candidates in the Chapter-Selected WMF Board
seats: 
http://chapters.wikimedia.ch/Appointment_process/2012/Chapters_Resolutions






 





Thanks,





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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 26th

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi Ann,

please don't confirm the location as I haven't got a confirmation from iHub 
yet. 

Abbas.

Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 20:44:04 +0300
From: ann.nj...@wikimedia.or.ke
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 26th

Hi all,

We will have our members meeting on the 26th of this month, commencing at 
10:30. We managed to secure the boardroom at IHub which unfortunately has room 
for only 15 people.The criteria for who comes is based on 15 people who will 
put their names on the etherpad  created by Alex below under the title 
"Attending"

: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-meeting-26-05-2012




NB: minutes of the meetup will be on our website at most 2 days after the 
meeting.


Ann

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 26th

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hello,
I've just confirmed the date and location of the meetup -- 26th May 2012, at 
iHub's Board Room (which is located on the 3rd floor, inside mLab at Bishop 
Magua Building -- the same building that houses the iHub). The meeting, as 
always, is scheduled to start at 10am.
Hope to see you there!
Abbas.

Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:56:26 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 26th

Guys,
I will not be available as im travelling to the US on 16th and wont be back by 
then.
Will somehow try participate in the meeting 
David
On May 2, 2012 9:19 PM, "Ann Njeri"  wrote:

sawa, thanks

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:





Hi Ann,

please don't confirm the location as I haven't got a confirmation from iHub 
yet. 

Abbas.

Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 20:44:04 +0300
From: ann.nj...@wikimedia.or.ke


To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Meetup on 26th

Hi all,

We will have our members meeting on the 26th of this month, commencing at 
10:30. We managed to secure the boardroom at IHub which unfortunately has room 
for only 15 people.The criteria for who comes is based on 15 people who will 
put their names on the etherpad  created by Alex below under the title 
"Attending"



: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-meeting-26-05-2012




NB: minutes of the meetup will be on our website at most 2 days after the 
meeting.


Ann

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi Alex,

Has the Board resolution been published? The Chapters Wiki also needs to be 
updated to indicate the Kenyan vote.

Abbas.

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:50:12 +0300
From: xelaw...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the feedback (online and offline) in assisting us to settle on 
the two candidates to support for board positions on WMF's Board. As mentioned 
off-list, a board (wmke) resolution on the same has been made and we'll give an 
official position of wmke's decision on the chapters internal mailing list and 
wiki.


cheers,
Alex

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Alex Wafula  wrote:

Email sent out, if I missed anyone, do let me know.

Alex

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Alex Wafula  wrote:


So we have 7 names on the pad I created [1]. If you still haven't added your 
name and wish to participate in discussions, please do so in the next 3 hours 
before I send out the first email.




I'll be using this alex.waf...@wiikimedia.or.ke so make sure I don't land in 
your spam :)

[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-WMFboard-selection




Alex

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Alex Wafula  wrote:



Cool, I've added you. Incase you can't access the pad, do email me directly to 
avoid too many emails on this thread.

Alex




On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM, stephen wanjau  
wrote:




Hello,



I am  interested.



I could have added my email but can't open the pad on phone..



//Stephen.





On 4/22/12, Alex Wafula  wrote:

> 2 sounds great. If interested in discussions over this, please post your

> contact here [1] and I'll send out the first email Tuesday morning.

>

> [1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-WMFboard-selection

>

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:

>

>> Alex,

>>

>> We have WMF Board Members, WMF Staff & Nominees on this list. So we have 2

>> options:

>>

>> 1) I can temporarily remove these people from our mailing list, and add

>> them back later on.

>>

>> 2) Have this discussion off-list, with discussions being sent over batch

>> emails to interested chapter members.

>>

>> I'd personally go for Option 2, since even if I remove members from this

>> list, the discussion archives are still publicly available and therefore

>> easily accessible.

>>

>> What do others think?

>>

>> Abbas.

>>

>> --

>> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:12:06 +0300

>> From: xelaw...@gmail.com

>> To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

>>

>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

>>

>> Hi BT,

>>

>> Yah, the editathone never happened. We had a good quorum of around 10 guys

>> but unfortunately, unforeseen events at Mugo's place (the venue) left us

>> without a venue. We tried looking for alternatives but didn't get a

>> workable one so we had to abort it.

>>

>> It was decided that we move the editathone to 30th but later on

>> suggestions of just having someone work on the list came up considering

>> the

>> number of times we've had to postpone this. I'll have a new thread for a

>> followup.

>>

>> So back to WMF chapter selected seats. It's common that chapters discuss

>> this off list or on internal lists, do you think we can do it on this list

>> because I don't foresee a meetup before the 5th of July.

>>

>> cheers,

>> alex

>>

>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Oliver Stegen

>> wrote:

>>

>> ** ** **

>>

>> What, the editathon never happened? Or just the discussion during the

>> editathon?

>>

>> If the editathon happened, updates please J

>>

>> Oliver (aka BT)

>>

>> ** **

>>   --

>>

>> *From:* Alex Wafula [mailto:xelaw...@gmail.com]

>> *Sent:* 22 April 2012 15:19

>> *To:* **The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.**

>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats*

>> ***

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> We already have recommendations as a board on this thatt we'd like to

>> passby chapter members before passing a resolution. We hoped to have a

>> light discussion yestrerday during the editathon which never happened. We

>> have till 5th of May for consensus by chapters for these seats after which

>> chapters will have to vote incase a consensus isn't arrived at.

>>

>> Feedback fr

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi Alex,

Has the Board resolution been published? The Chapters Wiki also needs to be 
updated to indicate the Kenyan vote.

Abbas.

Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:50:12 +0300
From: xelaw...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the feedback (online and offline) in assisting us to settle on 
the two candidates to support for board positions on WMF's Board. As mentioned 
off-list, a board (wmke) resolution on the same has been made and we'll give an 
official position of wmke's decision on the chapters internal mailing list and 
wiki.


cheers,
Alex

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Alex Wafula  wrote:

Email sent out, if I missed anyone, do let me know.

Alex

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Alex Wafula  wrote:


So we have 7 names on the pad I created [1]. If you still haven't added your 
name and wish to participate in discussions, please do so in the next 3 hours 
before I send out the first email.




I'll be using this alex.waf...@wiikimedia.or.ke so make sure I don't land in 
your spam :)

[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-WMFboard-selection




Alex

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Alex Wafula  wrote:



Cool, I've added you. Incase you can't access the pad, do email me directly to 
avoid too many emails on this thread.

Alex




On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM, stephen wanjau  
wrote:




Hello,



I am  interested.



I could have added my email but can't open the pad on phone..



//Stephen.





On 4/22/12, Alex Wafula  wrote:

> 2 sounds great. If interested in discussions over this, please post your

> contact here [1] and I'll send out the first email Tuesday morning.

>

> [1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-WMFboard-selection

>

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:

>

>> Alex,

>>

>> We have WMF Board Members, WMF Staff & Nominees on this list. So we have 2

>> options:

>>

>> 1) I can temporarily remove these people from our mailing list, and add

>> them back later on.

>>

>> 2) Have this discussion off-list, with discussions being sent over batch

>> emails to interested chapter members.

>>

>> I'd personally go for Option 2, since even if I remove members from this

>> list, the discussion archives are still publicly available and therefore

>> easily accessible.

>>

>> What do others think?

>>

>> Abbas.

>>

>> --

>> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:12:06 +0300

>> From: xelaw...@gmail.com

>> To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

>>

>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats

>>

>> Hi BT,

>>

>> Yah, the editathone never happened. We had a good quorum of around 10 guys

>> but unfortunately, unforeseen events at Mugo's place (the venue) left us

>> without a venue. We tried looking for alternatives but didn't get a

>> workable one so we had to abort it.

>>

>> It was decided that we move the editathone to 30th but later on

>> suggestions of just having someone work on the list came up considering

>> the

>> number of times we've had to postpone this. I'll have a new thread for a

>> followup.

>>

>> So back to WMF chapter selected seats. It's common that chapters discuss

>> this off list or on internal lists, do you think we can do it on this list

>> because I don't foresee a meetup before the 5th of July.

>>

>> cheers,

>> alex

>>

>> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Oliver Stegen

>> wrote:

>>

>> ** ** **

>>

>> What, the editathon never happened? Or just the discussion during the

>> editathon?

>>

>> If the editathon happened, updates please J

>>

>> Oliver (aka BT)

>>

>> ** **

>>   --

>>

>> *From:* Alex Wafula [mailto:xelaw...@gmail.com]

>> *Sent:* 22 April 2012 15:19

>> *To:* **The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.**

>> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Foundation Board Seats*

>> ***

>>

>> ** **

>>

>> We already have recommendations as a board on this thatt we'd like to

>> passby chapter members before passing a resolution. We hoped to have a

>> light discussion yestrerday during the editathon which never happened. We

>> have till 5th of May for consensus by chapters for these seats after which

>> chapters will have to vote incase a consensus isn't arrived at.

>>

>> Feedback fr

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,
Thank you for the support. I would have preferred someone else to take this 
role due to other personal responsibilities, but since there weren't any other 
volunteers/nominees, I'll have to take it.
Regards,Abbas.

Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:52:14 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

Guys,
Abbas for sure fits that call.
David.
On May 30, 2012 1:33 PM, "Alex Wafula"  wrote:

Thanks for the feedback guys, we'll be waiting to hear from Abbas then.



Alex



On 5/30/12, Oliver Stegen  wrote:

> Abbas would have my vote too.

> BT

>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: Branton Obwari [mailto:bruceobw...@gmail.com]

>> Sent: 30 May 2012 10:01

>> To: The discussion list for the Wikimedia Kenya chapter.

>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

>>

>> Abbas fits the bill.

>>

>> On 5/29/12, Grace Kariuki  wrote:

>> > i second ann and oscar

>> >

>> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Limoke Oscar 

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >> I second Ann: Abbas

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Ann Njeri 

>> >> wrote:

>> >>

>> >>> I nominate Abbas

>> >>>

>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Alex Wafula 

>> wrote:

>> >>>

>>  Hi all,

>> 

>>  During the Berlin Conference, we committed Wikimedia Kenya to an

>> intent

>>  to join the Chapters Council (Also referred to as the Wikimedia

>>  Chapters

>>  Association - WCA) by signing the Berlin Agreement [1]

>> 

>>  Now a committee of 4 members with equal powers (WCA Interim

>>  Secretariat)

>>  selected to hold the position of interim secretary general for WCA

>> have

>>  just published a draft for the WCA standing orders as explained in

>> the

>>  forward below. We are to select a representative to the

>>  association's

>>  council.

>> 

>>  In my opinion, our representative should be someone familiar with

>>  the

>>  runnings of other chapters and the Wikimedia Movement in general and

>>  available to followup on WCA online and physical meetups and

>> discussions

>>  so

>>  as to give our chapter updates of the same. Being a Board member is

>>  a

>>  plus

>>  *but not necessary*.

>> 

>>  Any volunteers/nominees?

>> 

>> 

>>  cheers,

>>  Alex

>> 

>>  [1].https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Agreement

>> 

>>  Hi All,

>> > The WCA Interim-Secretariat has published a draft for the WCA

>> standing

>> > orders at:

>> >

>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Standing_Or

>> ders

>> >

>> > With this, we complete what we think is enough information to

>> formally

>> > join the association. At this point we ask the chapters to ratify

>> the

>> > charter outlined in Berlin and select their representatives to the

>> > association's council. A definition of the representative roles is

>> > outlined

>> > in the standing orders. Do note that this draft, subject to

>> suggested

>> > amendments will be voted upon in the first council meeting at

>> > Wikimania.

>> >

>> > We know that important information such as the financial

>> > obligations

>> > are still missing. In any case, financial obligations will only be

>> > imposed

>> > by a council resolution. We also understand that your chapter board

>> > may

>> > only be in state to join provisionally, with regard to a later

>> decision

>> > by

>> > other organs in your chapter

>> >

>> > Regards,

>> > Tomer Ashur on behalf of the WCA interim-secretariat

>> >

>> 

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

[Abbas Mahmood]

Asaf,
The list of the contributors can be found here: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Offline_Projects/Content_Development/Schools/Kenyan_Topics&action=history
 
--Abbas.

From: abar...@wikimedia.org
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:15:33 -0700
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Offline Wikipedia: Kenyan Curriculum

Thanks for this update, Stephen.

I'd like to encourage you guys to make progress on this work, so we can finally 
prepare a new ZIM file (we'll figure out the size problem if we have too.  
Probably by removing a few pictures.) and start working on distribution.



Are you and Deonte the only ones working on this right now?

Cheers,

   Asaf

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Stephen Wanjau  
wrote:


Hello,

>From my mathematical point of view, I believe that this new set will 
>definitely generate more other articles into our new custom package. My 
>argument being, every new article we request to be added will come with its 
>new blue links which means more articles than what we already have in our not 
>yet completed compilation of topics. This blue links mean more articles!




As of now there are 500+ requested additions on [1] and if I do some maths by 
assuming that each new requested article has a minimum of 10 blue links then we 
are talking about 5000+ articles being added onto the SOS version of off-line 
WIkipedia. Note that the list is still a Work-In-Progress with more subjects to 
be added!




The SOS version of the offline Wikipedia is 5500 articles which means that our 
new additions would not fit as an addition to the SOS version and still be 
<4gb. I met Deonte today and he requested for some pages of the Agriculture 
syllabus which he is working on right now. I still have the Business Education 
syllabus and the C.R.E. syllabus which I secured last week.




//Stephen

1. 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects/Content_Development/Schools/Kenyan_Topics






On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Grace Kariuki  wrote:



oh!okay.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:11 PM, stephen wanjau  
wrote:




Thanks Sarah for the Clarifying.



//Stephen.







On 4/17/12, Sarah Osano  wrote:

> Grace,

> I think he is talking about laptop chargers not charges .

>

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Grace Kariuki  wrote:

>>

>> sorry, i meant charges?

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Grace Kariuki 

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> steve,how much are the chareges?

>>>

>>>

>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM, stephen wanjau

>>>  wrote:



 Hello Folks,



 Hope you are doing great and bracing yourselves for this Saturday's

 edittathon that shall evolve around but not limited to the subject of

 this Email.



 We shall cover the remaining bit of the Kenyan syllabus as a basic intro

 to Wiki and later on do more editing on Wikipedia. 



 My proposal is we could as well engage in the April Wikification Drive

 (see [1] below) but of course not limit ourselves to that as well.



 The venue of the Meet up is at the environs of Upper-hill in Nairobi at

 Mugo's place which is near the public Service Club.



 For those who do not know how to get there please contact me off-list

 for prior arrangements on how to get there.



 The edittathon starts at 600PM local time and runs through the Night

 till Sunday Morning.



   What to Bring:



 1. Laptops plus the chargers of course;)



 See you soon.



 PS: There is an experienced Wikipedian who is in the country on a short

 private visit and he tells me that he would like to be part of this

 edittathon on 21st and to meet other awesome Wikipedians.



 //Stephen



 1. 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Stephenwanjau#Invitation_to_the_April_Wikification_Drive









 On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Chris Riwa 

 wrote:

>

> Hi steve, I gave the syllabus copies to Dennis during our last meet-up.

> Regards,

>

>

> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Branton Obwari 

> wrote:

>>

>> Steve , i agree with you >we don't need a separate meeting to do that

>> ,for starters like ME ,we need the 10minutes 'how to' demo ,so can we

>> do it right here?, Chris has a copy of it, i can catch up with him.

>> Otherwise am glad

>> you are back & i love the positive energy you inject into WMKE.

>>

>> My regards!

>>

>>Branton.

>>

>> On 4/7/12, stephen wanjau  wrote:

>> > Hi Folks,

>> >

>> > I understand that the syllabus compilation was procrastinated to

>> > 21st

>> > of March 2012 for reasons I don't know.

>> >

>> > However,  I have a concern about this. The 'how-to' of this process

>> > is

>> > such a cinch and having a sepa

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WOULD LIKE TO JOIN WIKIMEDIA

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi Caroline!
Welcome to Wikimedia Kenya :-) May I ask, did the person who introduced you to 
Wikimedia give you an orientation or do you need one of us to give it to you 
now?
Regards,Abbas.

Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 06:52:17 -0700
From: osano.carol...@yahoo.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] WOULD LIKE TO JOIN WIKIMEDIA

I am a student at Africa Nazarene University and would like to join your team 
on volunteering at wikimedia. thanks



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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] List Title

[Abbas Mahmood]

Steve,
Where did you get that mailing list title from? I remember updating it quite a 
while ago: 
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake 
--Abbas.

Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 05:32:07 +0300
From: wanjaus...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] List Title

Hello Folks,

Our mailing list title still reads; "The discussion list for the upcoming 
Wikimedia Kenya chapter." IMO, we are already a recognized chapter by the 
Wikimedia Foundation and that name should change;)


My two cents.

//Stephen
 
Wikimedia Kenya
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

[Abbas Mahmood]

Just to avoid confusion, please tell me whether it's going to be a meetup or an 
editathon. Also, give me some possible dates/times and I'll check out if iHub's 
available. 
--Abbas.

Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:48:39 +0300
From: njeria...@gmail.com
To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

Guys, 
could we make the meetup on 16th, i have commitments on 23rd and 30th that 
cannot be changed,i didn't want to miss the editing meet-up...

Cheers

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Stegen  wrote:


















Hi all, and thanks Steve for keeping on
top of things.

Regarding a venue and time for our June
meet-up, what happened to iHub’s offer of a dedicated time and space once
a month? Has that been cancelled?

Best,

Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: Stephen Wanjau
[mailto:stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke] 

Sent: 07 June 2012 07:28

To: The
 discussion list for the Wikimedia Kenya chapter.

Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] June
Meet-Up



 

Hello Folks,



>From our last chapter meet-up on May 26th [1]  we decided that there shall
be an edit only meet-up in this month plus a thorough intro to Wiki editing of
our new members at the chapter. I would suggest we get into planning early to
give sufficient notice and make all the necessary arrangements into place. 



In the meantime, I have been compiling a list of stub-articles under category 
Kenya that need
expansion which we could use at the editathon plus clearing up the remaining
bit of the topics for off-line  Wikipedia. We will also need a venue for
this meeting 



Venue: Abbas please confirm whether the Ihub will be available or otherwise.



regards,

Stephen


1. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wmke-meeting-26-05-2012













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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

[Abbas Mahmood]

What about time? Is it going to be a full day or half day? Morning or afternoon?
Abbas.

Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 07:25:54 +0300
From: njeria...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

It can be both Abbas, try 16th 23rd or 30th. but prioritize 16th please coz 
that's the only day i will be available.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:





Just to avoid confusion, please tell me whether it's going to be a meetup or an 
editathon. Also, give me some possible dates/times and I'll check out if iHub's 
available. 

--Abbas.


Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:48:39 +0300
From: njeria...@gmail.com
To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up 


Guys, 
could we make the meetup on 16th, i have commitments on 23rd and 30th that 
cannot be changed,i didn't want to miss the editing meet-up...


Cheers

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Oliver Stegen  wrote:


















Hi all, and thanks Steve for keeping on
top of things.

Regarding a venue and time for our June
meet-up, what happened to iHub’s offer of a dedicated time and space once
a month? Has that been cancelled?

Best,

Oliver (aka BT)

 











From: Stephen Wanjau
[mailto:stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke] 

Sent: 07 June 2012 07:28

To: The
 discussion list for the Wikimedia Kenya chapter.

Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] June
Meet-Up



 

Hello Folks,



>From our last chapter meet-up on May 26th [1]  we decided that there shall
be an edit only meet-up in this month plus a thorough intro to Wiki editing of
our new members at the chapter. I would suggest we get into planning early to
give sufficient notice and make all the necessary arrangements into place. 



In the meantime, I have been compiling a list of stub-articles under category 
Kenya that need
expansion which we could use at the editathon plus clearing up the remaining
bit of the topics for off-line  Wikipedia. We will also need a venue for
this meeting 



Venue: Abbas please confirm whether the Ihub will be available or otherwise.



regards,

Stephen


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi folks,I've just received confirmation of the meetup: June 30th, 10am to 3pm. 
Mark your calenders. I'm yet to receive the exact location (whether it's at the 
Board Room or at the iHub itself).
Regards,Abbas.

> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:50:43 +0300
> From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up
> 
> Hi all,
> Edit only would be a fantastic idea. I second Xelawafs on that.
> 
> On 09/06/2012, Alex Wafula  wrote:
> > 30th sounds great. @Abbas, I figured we'd have the last Saturday of the
> > month at iHub permanently booked for us; do let us know.
> >
> > I don't think a morning alone would do, I'd suggest a timing of 10 am - 3
> > pm should be great (my thoughts)
> >
> > Plus I propose this to be an edit only meetup.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Alex
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM,  wrote:
> >
> >> Morning is better for me...
> >>
> >> David.
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Abbas Mahmood 
> >> Sender: wikimediake-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 08:30:04
> >> To: Wikimedia Kenya
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> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Cool Projects

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi guys,
Any projects we should include here? Suggestions? This might be an opportunity 
for Wikimedia Kenya to gain publicity and share best practices.
--Abbas.

From: lodew...@effeietsanders.org
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:08:38 +0200
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Cool Projects

Hi all,
Like last year, I will be presenting, together with Deror Lin, the coolest 
projects of the Wikimedia chapters. I hope you could (together) try to 
determine your coolest three projects of the past year (between Wikimania 2011 
and Wikimania 2012), and have someone enter that in this form 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dENaVEUybm1OaEJZYkYtSzhkbFBabkE6MQ#gid=1
 . 


Please use a very broad definition of 'coolness' because experience learns that 
chapters vastly underestimate that. Wikimeets can be counted as cool! I hope 
you can fill it out in the next three days. 


Looking forward to your submission,
Lodewijk

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Cool Projects

[Abbas Mahmood]

> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:09:18 +0300
> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Cool Projects
> 
> Speaking of best practices ,i think its good practice for Steve to
> have shared with the group before submitting the list as the official
> WMKE List of projectsjust to ensure inclusion and
> transparency.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM projects

[Abbas Mahmood]

My dear Steve,
Waswahili wasema subira huvuta heri.
I am going to speak about the Kenya National Archives, because it's the 
partnership that I'm focused on. Yes, we have been moving at a sluggish rate. 
Sometimes it's my fault, sometimes it's theirs. But, IMO, most partnerships 
don't take overnight to seal. They take months, or even years. And that has 
nothing to do with Kenya or the government. It's the business norm. The British 
Museum -- the first cultural institution to host a Residency program -- took 
months to accept it. The Museum of Islamic Art in Qatar is still in talks with 
Wikimedia -- these talks started (I think) 10 months ago. This agreement is not 
just a piece of paper saying that we will edit Wikipedia and take photos. It 
involves Museum personnel/staff -- meaning that they'll agree to devote their 
time to contribute to Wikipedia. So all in all, it involves the Museum agreeing 
to dedicate (some of) its resources to us -- whether its time or money. It also 
has a binding agreement, explicitly stating that they have to stick to the 
terms and conditions of the partnership. (e.g. what will you do if a senior 
staff member forbids you to take photos of their gallery?)
If you want to go ahead and carry out this project unofficially, then go ahead. 
I just hope that you (and everyone else who is in an official capacity to 
represent Wikimedia Kenya) knows that if we want to form partnerships, these 
things will take time. And there may be a shortcut this time round (which has 
its limitations), there may not be a shortcut next time.
You talked about calling an AGM with the stakeholders. What stakeholders 
specifically? You also talked about most government institutions being ignorant 
about Wikipedia. While this statement may be true, I assure you that after more 
than 5 meetings with the Kenya National Archives Management team, they at least 
know the basics :-)
You also talked about carrying out editathons and taking photos at the Murumbi 
Gallery (the gallery found at the entrance of the Archives). Do you know that 
this gallery is barely 1% of what the Kenya National Archives has? Yes, 1%. The 
Kenya National Archives is not a place which is supposed to host artifacts per 
se, but most importantly, it houses millions of records, transcripts, maps, 
agreements, videos, audio files related to Kenyan history. These records -- not 
the gallery -- are the essence of the Archives. It is these records, about Mau 
Mau, about East African Railways, about Tom Mboya -- that can be found nowhere 
else, that they have. 
So, if this deal really happens, the bulk of the work will be to digitize/scan 
these records and upload them to Wikisource. Although I think that we should 
also do what you said with the Murumbi Gallery, the bulk of the work still is 
the mass upload as well as putting up the descriptions (metadata) of each 
upload.
I am not supposed to talk about this, since it's still not yet official. But 
many of you probably didn't know what will really be happening, if this 
partnership actually takes place with the Archives.
Thanks,Abbas.

From: stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:20:10 +0300
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM projects

Hello Folks!

I have been physically following up on the subject of this email (together with 
Abbas and Alex) for sometime now and it seems the logistics and the speed with 
which these institutions are planning this are so slow that I feel I cant wait 
any longer. Those of you who have worked in the Kenyan government or for the 
Kenyan government definitely understand my concerns regarding the periods that 
they would take to decide on such a simple thing on what to do - probably call 
an AGM of the stakeholders. 



In most of the cases, these guys do not understand the online stuff or even how 
the internet works let alone Wikipedia (which is our work anyway). At the end 
they will come to appreciate that it is a good thing - which it is always 
is.There was a time when we visited the Kenya Railways museum and the curator 
there was always confusing their institutional website with Wikipedia. He 
thought Wikipedians job is to improve organizational websites! we clarified and 
made it clear about this and on the next meeting he was at it again!



On our meeting with another directorate of the National Museums of Kenya, he 
asked whether he could find Wikipedia on Google search. the exact conversation 
was as below.



Alex: Hello, My name is Alex and am here with my colleague Steve and we work at 
Wikipedia. Wikipedia is ...blah blah blah




Museum directorate: Do you mean if I search Wikipedia  on Google I will find 
it? (Was just hilarious:)

Personally, I have not spoken to Kenya Archives about GLAM (though Abbas did). 
But I think we should just go ahead and organize editathons at this premises 
and this is why. 



On Sunday 17th 2012 I was to meet with a f

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

[Abbas Mahmood]

Hi all,
There will be a Wikimedia Chapters Association meeting at Wikimania this year 
and since I wouldn't be going, I think that Wikimedia Kenya should select 
another WCA representative (preferably from the ones who will be going to 
Wikimania) so that we can have someone to represent us and update us with WCA.
Yours,Abbas.

Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:20:08 +0300
From: xelaw...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

Thanks for stepping up Abbas. I'll document this on our site and pass our 
decision to WCA's interim secretariat

cheers,
Alex

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Stephen Wanjau  
wrote:

Hey Fellas,

We going more international now na sisi sio ma-local now that we got a 
representative to the WCA. 


//Stephen

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:






Hi all,
Thank you for the support. I would have preferred someone else to take this 
role due to other personal responsibilities, but since there weren't any other 
volunteers/nominees, I'll have to take it.


Regards,Abbas.


Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:52:14 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com


To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

Guys,

Abbas for sure fits that call.

David.

On May 30, 2012 1:33 PM, "Alex Wafula"  wrote:

Thanks for the feedback guys, we'll be waiting to hear from Abbas then.



Alex



On 5/30/12, Oliver Stegen  wrote:

> Abbas would have my vote too.

> BT

>

>> -Original Message-

>> From: Branton Obwari [mailto:bruceobw...@gmail.com]

>> Sent: 30 May 2012 10:01

>> To: The discussion list for the Wikimedia Kenya chapter.

>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimedia Chapters Association

>>

>> Abbas fits the bill.

>>

>> On 5/29/12, Grace Kariuki  wrote:

>> > i second ann and oscar

>> >

>> > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Limoke Oscar 

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >> I second Ann: Abbas

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Ann Njeri 

>> >> wrote:

>> >>

>> >>> I nominate Abbas

>> >>>

>> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Alex Wafula 

>> wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>>> Hi all,

>> >>>>

>> >>>> During the Berlin Conference, we committed Wikimedia Kenya to an

>> intent

>> >>>> to join the Chapters Council (Also referred to as the Wikimedia

>> >>>> Chapters

>> >>>> Association - WCA) by signing the Berlin Agreement [1]

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Now a committee of 4 members with equal powers (WCA Interim

>> >>>> Secretariat)

>> >>>> selected to hold the position of interim secretary general for WCA

>> have

>> >>>> just published a draft for the WCA standing orders as explained in

>> the

>> >>>> forward below. We are to select a representative to the

>> >>>> association's

>> >>>> council.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> In my opinion, our representative should be someone familiar with

>> >>>> the

>> >>>> runnings of other chapters and the Wikimedia Movement in general and

>> >>>> available to followup on WCA online and physical meetups and

>> discussions

>> >>>> so

>> >>>> as to give our chapter updates of the same. Being a Board member is

>> >>>> a

>> >>>> plus

>> >>>> *but not necessary*.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Any volunteers/nominees?

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>> cheers,

>> >>>> Alex

>> >>>>

>> >>>> [1].https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Agreement

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Hi All,

>> >>>>> The WCA Interim-Secretariat has published a draft for the WCA

>> standing

>> >>>>> orders at:

>> >>>>>

>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association/Standing_Or

>> ders

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> With this, we complete what we think is enough information to

>> formally

>> >>>>> join the association. At this point we ask the chapters to ratify

>> the

>> >>>>> charter outlined in Berlin and select their representatives to the

>> >>>>> association'

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

[Abbas Mahmood]

Regarding the registration process, the lawyer is on leave for 2 weeks (until 
27th June). I will poke him when he's back in office. Oscar, I only have a hard 
copy of the revised bylaws, and some of the changes were, I think, recorded on 
etherpad. I'll carry the hard copy with me at our next meetup, in case anyone 
needs it.
And yes, we've already paid (an installment of) the legal fees, so let's hope 
that this will expedite the process.
Abbas.


From: stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:48:59 +0300
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up

Woohoo!

Nice job Abbas for following that up.

PS: How far have we gone with the registration process?

Thanks.

//Stephen.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:






Hi folks,
I've just received confirmation of the meetup: June 30th, 10am to 3pm. Mark 
your calenders. I'm yet to receive the exact location (whether it's at the 
Board Room or at the iHub itself).


Regards,Abbas.

> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 19:50:43 +0300
> From: kipchogekos...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org


> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] June Meet-Up
> 
> Hi all,
> Edit only would be a fantastic idea. I second Xelawafs on that.
> 
> On 09/06/2012, Alex Wafula  wrote:


> > 30th sounds great. @Abbas, I figured we'd have the last Saturday of the
> > month at iHub permanently booked for us; do let us know.
> >
> > I don't think a morning alone would do, I'd suggest a timing of 10 am - 3


> > pm should be great (my thoughts)
> >
> > Plus I propose this to be an edit only meetup.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Alex
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:37 AM,  wrote:


> >
> >> Morning is better for me...
> >>
> >> David.
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Abbas Mahmood 


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM projects

[Abbas Mahmood]

Steve,
No, I will not divulge any more details. It is quite unprofessional for 
partnerships, that haven't been finalized yet, to be publicly announced. This 
is a public list, and I will not do that here. Ever wondered why the GLAM 
mailing list is a closed, subscription-only mailing list: 
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Contact ? Because most of the 
discussions that go on there are usually confidential. That is why Kul Wadhwa 
and the rest of the WMF Mobile Team don't give out details about the 
partnerships they _are about_ to make, until official announcements are made. 
SincerelyAbbas Mahmood.

From: stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:47:32 +0300
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM   projects

Hello,

My reply is in line.



Being on the board doesn't denote that whichever
communications commencing from me is the position or stance of the chapter
whatsoever, unless otherwise unambiguously stated in the start section of my
E-mail. Clear?







My dear Steve,
Waswahili wasema subira huvuta heri.
Yeah I concur but the same Waswahili said, Ngoja ngoja huumiza matumbo :) and 
how comes nowadays they don't 'sema' :)





I am going to speak about the Kenya National Archives, because it's the 
partnership that I'm focused on. Yes, we have been moving at a sluggish rate. 
Sometimes it's my fault, sometimes it's theirs. But, IMO, most partnerships 
don't take overnight to seal. They take months, or even years. And that has 
nothing to do with Kenya or the government. It's the business norm. The British 
Museum -- the first cultural institution to host a Residency program -- took 
months to accept it. The Museum of Islamic Art in Qatar is still in talks with 
Wikimedia -- these talks started (I think) 10 months ago. This agreement is not 
just a piece of paper saying that we will edit Wikipedia and take photos. It 
involves Museum personnel/staff -- meaning that they'll agree to devote their 
time to contribute to Wikipedia. So all in all, it involves the Museum agreeing 
to dedicate (some of) its resources to us -- whether its time or money. It also 
has a binding agreement, explicitly stating that they have to stick to the 
terms and conditions of the partnership. (e.g. what will you do if a senior 
staff member forbids you to take photos of their gallery?)






Hey! You got me wide off the mark from my Email. Am not saying
we storm the museum and shockingly start having our own secluded tours or edit
camps devoid of their accord.I cannot take staff members and the management and 
offer
them a dose Wikimedicine minus the thought of the influence to their jobs and
the welfare of the KNA. I personally cannot do that and I cannot tolerate such
kind of behaviour.There are undeniably some levels of access to the
facility. I saw an opportunity to use their library as a source for references
since it is open to public in exchange of a very small fee of $2.50 per year 
per head. This way we would
even have a metric from this unofficial pilot of the kind and quantity of work 
and input that we expect at
such a time when the partnership deal ripens. Personally I do not edit 
exclusively edit local
articles for the reason that most of this info is still offline. At times you
cannot take care of all the ‘ifs’ in advance even before the journey starts  – 
we will cross the bridge when we get there. It is now five months and counting 
- just a caveat and probably a wake up call.



If you want to go ahead and carry out this project unofficially, then go ahead. 
I just hope that you (and everyone else who is in an official capacity to 
represent Wikimedia Kenya) knows that if we want to form partnerships, these 
things will take time. And there may be a shortcut this time round (which has 
its limitations), there may not be a shortcut next time.



 

There are without doubt no shortcuts not unless we execute
an Italian job and take the material with us home and digitize bila presha na 
hustle.Does existence in the board mean that all I do or Email for
that matter is the opinion of the chapter or a representation of the chapter’s 
deportment? (Asking for a friend.)This was my personal opinion and it is in no 
way tagged to the other officials of the Wikimedia Kenya chapter.  FYI, there 
are winning shortcuts like: Shift+alt+S which saves the changes in a Wiki edit 
interface.







You talked about calling an AGM with the stakeholders. What stakeholders 
specifically? You also talked about most government institutions being ignorant 
about Wikipedia. While this statement may be true, I assure you that after more 
than 5 meetings with the Kenya National Archives Management team, they at least 
know the basics :-)


 

I was reporting of what materialized at our meeting while on
quest for the list of monuments. I still wonder how the hell someone would ask
if Wikipedia is on Google yet his office door label is a term far-fet

Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

[Abbas Mahmood]

Done!

> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:31:17 +0300
> Subject: Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...
> To: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: abbas...@hotmail.com
> 
> Abbas,
> 
> Please chuck off such characters
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Victor Karanja Nyambura
>  wrote:
> > http://www.alist520.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/twentyeleven/rockfpl.html?la=edh.zaif&redhy=urza.md&ep=xugs
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

[Abbas Mahmood]

Whoops, I hadn't seen this thread. Sorry Victor for unceremoniously 
unsubscribing you. You're back on list now. My apologies.

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:51:31 +0300
CC: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...





















Please show a bit more patience,
especially as Victor had explained that his account got hacked. Presumably,
this could happen to anyone. So please re-enlist him.

BT

 











From: Abbas Mahmood
[mailto:abbas...@hotmail.com] 

Sent: 18 June 2012 15:47

To: Oscar Limoke;
vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; WikimediaKenya

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas:
Unsubscribe this Spammer please...



 



Done!






> From: oslim...@gmail.com

> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:31:17 +0300

> Subject: Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

> To: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

> CC: abbas...@hotmail.com

> 

> Abbas,

> 

> Please chuck off such characters

> 

> 

> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Victor Karanja Nyambura

>  wrote:

> >
http://www.alist520.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/twentyeleven/rockfpl.html?la=edh.zaif&redhy=urza.md&ep=xugs

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

[Abbas Mahmood]

Actually, I tried to (re)subscribe Victor to this list, but I was told that he 
is already a member. So, Victor hadn't been unsubscribed. Sorry for the 
confusion.
Abbas.

From: abbas...@hotmail.com
To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:17:40 +
CC: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...





Whoops, I hadn't seen this thread. Sorry Victor for unceremoniously 
unsubscribing you. You're back on list now. My apologies.

From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:51:31 +0300
CC: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...





















Please show a bit more patience,
especially as Victor had explained that his account got hacked. Presumably,
this could happen to anyone. So please re-enlist him.

BT

 











From: Abbas Mahmood
[mailto:abbas...@hotmail.com] 

Sent: 18 June 2012 15:47

To: Oscar Limoke;
vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; WikimediaKenya

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas:
Unsubscribe this Spammer please...



 



Done!






> From: oslim...@gmail.com

> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:31:17 +0300

> Subject: Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

> To: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

> CC: abbas...@hotmail.com

> 

> Abbas,

> 

> Please chuck off such characters

> 

> 

> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Victor Karanja Nyambura

>  wrote:

> >
http://www.alist520.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/twentyeleven/rockfpl.html?la=edh.zaif&redhy=urza.md&ep=xugs

> >

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> 

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

[Abbas Mahmood]

Sawa Grace. I agree that it was ignorance on my part. Won't happen again. My 
apologies.
Abbas.

Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:38:06 +0300
From: gkariuk...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

Hi all,
 
Abbass,next time,please be slow to exercise such heavy penalty especially on 
the advice or suggestion of one person.
 


 
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Abbas Mahmood  wrote:



Actually, I tried to (re)subscribe Victor to this list, but I was told that he 
is already a member. So, Victor hadn't been unsubscribed. Sorry for the 
confusion. 


Abbas.








From: abbas...@hotmail.com
To: i...@oliverstegen.net; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org

Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:17:40 +


CC: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...


Whoops, I hadn't seen this thread. Sorry Victor for unceremoniously 
unsubscribing you. You're back on list now. My apologies.






From: i...@oliverstegen.net
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:51:31 +0300

CC: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...



Please show a bit more patience, especially as Victor had explained that his 
account got hacked. Presumably, this could happen to anyone. So please 
re-enlist him.

BT
 





From: Abbas Mahmood [mailto:abbas...@hotmail.com] 

Sent: 18 June 2012 15:47
To: Oscar Limoke; vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; WikimediaKenya

Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...
 

Done!




> From: oslim...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:31:17 +0300
> Subject: Abbas: Unsubscribe this Spammer please...

> To: vickyj...@yahoo.co.uk; wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: abbas...@hotmail.com

> 
> Abbas,
> 
> Please chuck off such characters
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Victor Karanja Nyambura
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> > http://www.alist520.com/wordpress/wp-content/themes/twentyeleven/rockfpl.html?la=edh.zaif&redhy=urza.md&ep=xugs

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM projects

[Abbas Mahmood]

I usually use the Kenyan Constitution (Article 35 in the Bill of Rights) to 
argue my standpoint:
"...every citizen has the right to access to information held by the state or 
any information that is held by another person and that is required for the 
exercise or protection of any right or fundamental freedom." 
--Abbas.

From: stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:46:49 +0300
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Kenya National Archives and other GLAM   projects

Hello Wikimedians!

As the talks and discussions for partnerships fair on, we also need to be 
preparing in the background some tools that will be handy during the 
collaborations with the institutions in question.




Such tools include but not limited to; Wikimedia commons KE licence templates, 
Customized barnster awards for members who contribute to WP:KENYA etc. 

>From my English understanding of the Kenya copyrights act , (since I ain't no 
>lawyer: ) I understand that the copyright act of Kenya has some special 
>provisions for local works of art and photography. You can get a copy of the 
>copyright act at [1]. 




Please Note: Am not a lawyer and I have no legal background locally and 
internationally and thereforeany advise that I give should not be taken as any 
form of legal advise.

Have a good day.

regards
//Stephen



1. http://www.copyright.go.ke/rough/copyright_act.pdf


On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Iolanda Pensa  wrote:



dear allto involve institutions I think a good strategy is - as Stephen 
suggests - to start. Below some hints related to my experience with GLAMs 
within Share Your Knowledge and WikiAfrica projects.


all the bestiolanda
1. if it can be useful we just made two short videos about GLAMs, Creative 
Commons and Wikipedia (in English, the voice was recorded in south africa by 
the Africa Centre and one of them is the voice of Francis Awinda - wikipedian 
in residence at the Africa Centre from Kenya).


* Share Your Knowledge WHY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPWc18LswRM
* Share Your Knowledge HOW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpYmtRmPdUc


you find the videos also on Wikimedia Commons [1]
2. it can be productive to focus on specific contents. for example you can ask 
a publisher to release with the open license cc by-sa only the biography of 
their authors and their book description; for an archive the story of the 
institutions (often already on their website); for an NGOs some of their 
promotional publications. those are contents institutions wish to share and 
they have less troubles in sharing. once they get started is easier to get more 
because they see how their contents are used.



3. Public archives and museums are often the most difficult institutions to 
involve in contributing to Wikipedia because - also if they understand - they 
do not know who can take the decision. Often they also require a formal 
agreement (which makes the collaboration even longer). it can be useful to 
target also NGOs, foundations and other private institutions, to get started 
and to be able to then tell the public sector "hey, THEY are already doing it".



[1] On Wikimedia Commons - Share Your Knowledge video 1 WHY (with final link to 
glamwiki.org) 
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Share_Your_Knowledge_1_Why_glamwiki.ogv



On Wikimedia Commons - Share Your Knowledge video 2 HOW (with final link to 
glamwiki.org) 
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Share_Your_Knowledge_2_How_glamwiki.ogv



Il giorno 18/giu/2012, alle ore 06:20, Stephen Wanjau ha scritto:
Hello Folks!

I have been physically following up on the subject of this email (together with 
Abbas and Alex) for sometime now and it seems the logistics and the speed with 
which these institutions are planning this are so slow that I feel I cant wait 
any longer. Those of you who have worked in the Kenyan government or for the 
Kenyan government definitely understand my concerns regarding the periods that 
they would take to decide on such a simple thing on what to do - probably call 
an AGM of the stakeholders. 






In most of the cases, these guys do not understand the online stuff or even how 
the internet works let alone Wikipedia (which is our work anyway). At the end 
they will come to appreciate that it is a good thing - which it is always 
is.There was a time when we visited the Kenya Railways museum and the curator 
there was always confusing their institutional website with Wikipedia. He 
thought Wikipedians job is to improve organizational websites! we clarified and 
made it clear about this and on the next meeting he was at it again!






On our meeting with another directorate of the National Museums of Kenya, he 
asked whether he could find Wikipedia on Google search. the exact conversation 
was as below.






Alex: Hello, My name is Alex and am here with my colleague Steve and we work at 
Wikipedia. Wikipedia is ...blah blah blah










Museum directorate: Do you mean if I sea

[Wikimedia Kenya] Call for Projects

[Abbas Mahmood]

My dear Wikimedians,
It's halfway past the year and and apart from the meetups/editathons, offline 
Wikipedia and GLAM proposals, there's almost nothing else we've done. I'd like 
to put out a call to all of you -- the newcomers and the oldies -- to please 
come up with some suggestions of new and exciting projects that we can do for 
this second half of the year. Please voice out any mission-aligned suggestions 
that you have -- and if it's viable, we can refine it and hopefully undertake 
the project. Remember, the money is there -- it's your ideas that we're 
missing. So, be bold!
Looking forward to hearing from you.
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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

[Abbas Mahmood]

David,
What do you mean by "Chapters should not meet to discuss finances?" How do you 
ensure that there's accountability?
Also, I think that everyone who has a company asset should declare it, and that 
a requisition form be made ASAP where interested users should fill it in and 
get approval (from the Board?). Who has the projectors? Who has the screens? 
Who has the banners? Who has the camera?
--Abbas.

Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:17:58 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

Oscar,
Chapter should not meet to discuss finances, I do not think this is the 
appropriate way to handle this. The board can meet and discuss this issue and i 
can even join via Skype if it is proper hours for me.
Meanwhile, I have seen the statement that Steve (or was it Oscar? ) shared, 
there are some things that require explanation and I think a good start would 
be the board point any questions to Steve in this regard here. 


This mailing list is public so no one should think anything is being discussed 
underground. 
David.
On Jul 18, 2012 3:11 PM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:

HI Team,
IN the absence of our Chair and in the interest of the Chapter following the 
recent financial saga with Wikimedia Spain financials where they lost over 
2500USD Chapters funds, I would like to propose an urgent Chapters meeting to 
do a quick audit of our financials in an open way



THE treasurer should get us our Statements of expenditures and accounts as we 
stand for half year in order to make plans for a new bank account and to plan 
for upcoming projects that need urgent member approvals.
Please Treasure make plans to avail the same.
I PROPOSE at UoN grounds  this Saturday?
ps: Please come along with our per diems
Via my Xperia

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

[Abbas Mahmood]

No, I disagree.
The Board can not audit itself -- there will definitely be bias and 
self-interest. The Board can (and should) have an audit committee (or an 
interim committee) that will examine the financial records of Wikimedia Kenya. 
This committee will then report back to the Board with its findings (which can 
be then made publicly).
Abbas.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:44:01 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

Abbas,
My point is that the board should meet, diacuss and report to the rest of the 
team. I agree we should be accountable but there is a reason why there is a 
board. 
Discussing finances in large groups especially when prompted by a dispute could 
cause tension. Lets handle things right.
David.
On Jul 18, 2012 3:33 PM, "Abbas Mahmood"  wrote:





David,
What do you mean by "Chapters should not meet to discuss finances?" How do you 
ensure that there's accountability?

Also, I think that everyone who has a company asset should declare it, and that 
a requisition form be made ASAP where interested users should fill it in and 
get approval (from the Board?). Who has the projectors? Who has the screens? 
Who has the banners? Who has the camera?

--Abbas.


Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:17:58 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com

To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

Oscar,

Chapter should not meet to discuss finances, I do not think this is the 
appropriate way to handle this. The board can meet and discuss this issue and i 
can even join via Skype if it is proper hours for me.

Meanwhile, I have seen the statement that Steve (or was it Oscar? ) shared, 
there are some things that require explanation and I think a good start would 
be the board point any questions to Steve in this regard here. 



This mailing list is public so no one should think anything is being discussed 
underground. 

David.

On Jul 18, 2012 3:11 PM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:

HI Team,

IN the absence of our Chair and in the interest of the Chapter following the 
recent financial saga with Wikimedia Spain financials where they lost over 
2500USD Chapters funds, I would like to propose an urgent Chapters meeting to 
do a quick audit of our financials in an open way




THE treasurer should get us our Statements of expenditures and accounts as we 
stand for half year in order to make plans for a new bank account and to plan 
for upcoming projects that need urgent member approvals.

Please Treasure make plans to avail the same.

I PROPOSE at UoN grounds  this Saturday?

ps: Please come along with our per diems

Via my Xperia


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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

[Abbas Mahmood]

Alex,
Indeed. After all, the bylaws clearly state that "All accounts, books, 
securities and any other relevant documents of the company must be available 
for inspection free of charge by _any_ member upon request".
Oscar,I am also curious about the per diem issue. I inquired from the Treasurer 
and was told that there were some "personal dues" and "personal issues" that 
need to be resolved. I don't know what that means. I must say that I am very 
disappointed by the fact that Wikimedia Kenya volunteers went to the United 
States without being given a per diem, especially bearing in mind that there 
was a Board Majority Approval requesting the treasurer to issue out a per diem. 
No offence to the Board but if you guys are incapacitated and can not execute 
the resolutions you make, then it makes us, as members, question your mandate 
and power.
--Abbas.

Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:34:13 +0300
From: oslim...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

Point of correction to Hugo 
WE are not going to audit the expenses made by us so far,all we want is to 
evaluate the financial health of WMKE.if there is any audit,the Board and the 
Audit committee can do that.
Speaking of muscle, I am still wondering why the treasure is hesitant to make 
the Board approved per diem to Wikimania attendees. IS this another muscle 
stant? 
And this meetup will again seek to find clarity on this issue
Via my Xperia
On Jul 19, 2012 6:52 AM, "Stephen Wanjau"  wrote:



Hello!

I have shared the expenses sheet with the Wikimedia Kenya board and am waiting 
for their comments on that and questions if any to me as the treasurer so that 
the board can in turn present the same to the chapter. I am waiting for 
responses from the board and I have received none as yet. They have a deadline 
that I set for Friday the 20th of July 2012 after-which I will take the next 
course of action after assuming they have nothing they expect me to clarify 
about the expenditures there in.






Just so you know, I like the muscle of this thread and not the one on 
Wikiproject Kenya or Africa for that matter.

regards,
Stephen.


On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Mugo  wrote:





Abbas,
You are forgetting that the board has not handled any finances or assets. What 
this should be is a handover of what so far has been handled by Steve 
officially to the board.
On the audit committee, we did agree that we will form it and I think this is a 
good time to do so.
David.
On Jul 18, 2012 4:19 PM, "Abbas Mahmood"  wrote:










No, I disagree.
The Board can not audit itself -- there will definitely be bias and 
self-interest. The Board can (and should) have an audit committee (or an 
interim committee) that will examine the financial records of Wikimedia Kenya. 
This committee will then report back to the Board with its findings (which can 
be then made publicly).







Abbas.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:44:01 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com
To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org






Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

Abbas,

My point is that the board should meet, diacuss and report to the rest of the 
team. I agree we should be accountable but there is a reason why there is a 
board. 

Discussing finances in large groups especially when prompted by a dispute could 
cause tension. Lets handle things right.

David.

On Jul 18, 2012 3:33 PM, "Abbas Mahmood"  wrote:





David,
What do you mean by "Chapters should not meet to discuss finances?" How do you 
ensure that there's accountability?







Also, I think that everyone who has a company asset should declare it, and that 
a requisition form be made ASAP where interested users should fill it in and 
get approval (from the Board?). Who has the projectors? Who has the screens? 
Who has the banners? Who has the camera?







--Abbas.


Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 22:17:58 +0300
From: raidar...@gmail.com







To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] URGENT MEETUP and WMKE Financials

Oscar,

Chapter should not meet to discuss finances, I do not think this is the 
appropriate way to handle this. The board can meet and discuss this issue and i 
can even join via Skype if it is proper hours for me.

Meanwhile, I have seen the statement that Steve (or was it Oscar? ) shared, 
there are some things that require explanation and I think a good start would 
be the board point any questions to Steve in this regard here. 









This mailing list is public so no one should think anything is being discussed 
underground. 

David.

On Jul 18, 2012 3:11 PM, "Limoke Oscar"  wrote:

HI Team,

IN the absence of our Chair and in the interest of the Chapter following the 
recent financial saga with Wikimedia Spain financials where they lost over 
2500USD Chapters funds, I would like to propose an u