Re: [WISPA] MikroTik simple queues

[Josh Luthman]

Here is what I believe you want.  It will let the customer use 3M but if for
30 seconds the customer exceeds 512kb/s they're capped at 1536kb/s.

/queue simple
add burst-limit=300/300 burst-threshold=512000/512000 burst-time=\
30s/30s comment="" direction=both disabled=no dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 \
interface=all limit-at=0/0 max-limit=1536000/1536000
name=blair4noobcstmr \
parent=none priority=8 queue=default-small/default-small \
target-addresses=172.16.0.101/32 total-queue=default-small

Fish sounds good for dinner.  Thanks for the tip.

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Ok.  I can live with a 1Mb/s limit with a short burst to 3Mb/s
>
> But how?
>
> I've managed to make simple queues do bandwidth limiting.  But making the
> bursting work seems to be a different kettle of fish
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> You can easily do that minus the very last part about the last 30s
> usage in simple queues.
>
>
>
> On 10/31/08, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues?
>
> I'm trying to get something like this...
>
> user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his average
> use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s
>
> I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work.
>
> The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long
> running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others.
>
> Anyone done this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] I need to get my CWNA. Anybody know of any good training classes coming up?

[Dylan Oliver]

It's really not THAT hard - I read the planet3 book cover to cover in a day
and passed it the next.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Pat O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can do the 5-day class, and have the budget to travel in the Western US.
>
> I appreciate all your responses.  Have a happy Halloween, and great
> weekend.


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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik simple queues

[Blair Davis]

Ok.  I can live with a 1Mb/s limit with a short burst to 3Mb/s

But how?

I've managed to make simple queues do bandwidth limiting.  But making
the bursting work seems to be a different kettle of fish

Josh Luthman wrote:

  You can easily do that minus the very last part about the last 30s
usage in simple queues.



On 10/31/08, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues?

I'm trying to get something like this...

user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his average
use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s

I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work.

The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long
running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others.

Anyone done this?


  
  

  







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[WISPA] I need to get my CWNA. Anybody know of any good training classes coming up?

[Pat O'Connor]

I can do the 5-day class, and have the budget to travel in the Western US.

I appreciate all your responses.  Have a happy Halloween, and great weekend.


Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik simple queues

[Josh Luthman]

You can easily do that minus the very last part about the last 30s
usage in simple queues.



On 10/31/08, Blair Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues?
>
> I'm trying to get something like this...
>
> user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his average
> use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s
>
> I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work.
>
> The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long
> running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others.
>
> Anyone done this?
>


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[WISPA] MikroTik simple queues

[Blair Davis]

Anyone out here know about MikroTik Simple Queues?

I'm trying to get something like this...

user with 1Mb/s limit can burst to 3Mb/s for 30sec but only if his
average use in the previous 30sec is below 512Kb/s

I've tried several things, but I am just not getting it to work.

The objective is to speed web surfing and email while preventing long
running downloads/uploads from plugging up the network for others.

Anyone done this?





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[WISPA] For Sale: YDI AP Plus, Waverider EUM indoor Antennas, Cable Hangers

[John McDowell]

All on ebay if you want to search for them. Cable hangers are for 7/8"
Heliax.
Also, I have about 14 Waverider EUM indoor modems for sale, but will not
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Re: [WISPA] billboards

[David Hulsebus]

Travis,

We have one on a billboard at our Interstate exit. They had a sign that 
needed Internet connectivity for updates, so we worked out an agreement 
to provide the service at no cost if they allowed for a small 12db 2.4 
omni to provide services to the area. We worked directly with the owner 
of the billboard and he is able to charge more for the LED signs that 
need Internet access. No issues. He pays electricity, did ask for 
insurance from us and we asked him for 24X7 access rights. Have never 
had to make a return trip yet. My guys hated it because it's a 80 ft 
monopole with peg legs. Very time consuming to climb.

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Travis Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone had success using billboards for small repeaters? Just a 
> small backhaul antenna and a small omni?
>
> We are considering contacting some billboard companies about this, and I 
> was just wondering what we may run into?
>
> thanks,
>
> Travis
> Microserv
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Re: [WISPA] billboards

[lakeland]

Travis

Alan Marsalis was doing that before he sold ShreveNet. I believe the only real 
issue he had was electrical power not being at a lot of sites

I know Clear Channel is doing site leasing on their billboards and I can't 
remember the name of the other big company that Alan was dealing with.

Bob
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-Original Message-
From: Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:48:07 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] billboards


Hi,

Has anyone had success using billboards for small repeaters? Just a 
small backhaul antenna and a small omni?

We are considering contacting some billboard companies about this, and I 
was just wondering what we may run into?

thanks,

Travis
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[WISPA] billboards

[Travis Johnson]

Hi,

Has anyone had success using billboards for small repeaters? Just a 
small backhaul antenna and a small omni?

We are considering contacting some billboard companies about this, and I 
was just wondering what we may run into?

thanks,

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[WISPA] Sprint-Nextel Severs Its Internet Connection to Cogent Communications

[Matt Liotta]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/081030/neth134.html?.v=1

Watch out if you are single-homed to either.

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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3

[Jack Unger]

ya?

Randy Cosby wrote:
> FWIW, my 3650 link seems to have a slight Austrian accent.
>
> Randy
>
>
> Mac Dearman wrote:
>   
>> Randy,
>>
>>   Thanks for the link. Turns out we are ok since we leave all our settings
>> at default, but it could have been very important. I wasn't aware of Ubnt
>> doing any testing with MT. That's just good knowledge - thanks.
>>
>> Mac
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
>>>
>>> Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are
>>> adjusting for correct power settings.  See
>>> http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
 I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under
   
 
>>> frequency mode
>>> 
>>>   
 make sure that you have selected "manual_txpower" instead of
   
 
>>> "regulatory
>>> 
>>>   
 domain" or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory
   
 
>>> laws
>>> 
>>>   
 without you knowing.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 
>>> On
>>> 
>>>   
 Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3

 We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni
   
 
>>> and 14
>>> 
>>>   
 dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels.
   
 
>>> However,
>>> 
>>>   
 In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770
   
 
>>> MHz is
>>> 
>>>   
 not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for
   
 
>>> each ap
>>> 
>>>   
 and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that
   
 
>>> selecting a
>>> 
>>>   
 different country other than the good old USA would allow you to
   
 
>>> select the
>>> 
>>>   
 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp
   
 
>>> setting
>>> 
>>>   
 for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available
   
 
>>> for
>>> 
>>>   
 selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason
   
 
>>> we are
>>> 
>>>   
 getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now
   
 
>>> finally the
>>> 
>>>   
 real question I am asking; is there really a difference between
   
 
>>> purchasing a
>>> 
>>>   
 special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a
 different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still
   
 
>>> 5770 Mhz
>>> 
>>>   
 no matter what?



 Thanks,

 John Buwa

 Michiana Wireless





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Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3

[Randy Cosby]

FWIW, my 3650 link seems to have a slight Austrian accent.

Randy


Mac Dearman wrote:
> Randy,
>
>   Thanks for the link. Turns out we are ok since we leave all our settings
> at default, but it could have been very important. I wasn't aware of Ubnt
> doing any testing with MT. That's just good knowledge - thanks.
>
> Mac
>
>
>
>
>   
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:39 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
>>
>> Also, when working with UBNT cards and Mikrotik, be sure you are
>> adjusting for correct power settings.  See
>> http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf for a pretty thorough
>> explanation.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>> 
>>> I use the brazil country code. On the main wireless tab under
>>>   
>> frequency mode
>> 
>>> make sure that you have selected "manual_txpower" instead of
>>>   
>> "regulatory
>> 
>>> domain" or it will try to limit your power due to local regulatory
>>>   
>> laws
>> 
>>> without you knowing.
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>   
>> On
>> 
>>> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:45 AM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] MikroTik and UBQ XR3
>>>
>>> We are testing a 3.65 GHz setup with MT and XR3 using a 11 dBi Omni
>>>   
>> and 14
>> 
>>> dBi panel. My results are not really impressive with signal levels.
>>>   
>> However,
>> 
>>> In order to use 3663 MHz you must set the card for 5770 MHz and 5770
>>>   
>> MHz is
>> 
>>> not available unless you purchase a special frequency license for
>>>   
>> each ap
>> 
>>> and cpe from MT. However someone on the list pointed out that
>>>   
>> selecting a
>> 
>>> different country other than the good old USA would allow you to
>>>   
>> select the
>> 
>>> 5770 Mhz frequency. This is true and we used the Germany 5ghz ptp
>>>   
>> setting
>> 
>>> for country and we now have the needed 5770 Mhz frequency available
>>>   
>> for
>> 
>>> selection. So now I am starting to wonder if this may be the reason
>>>   
>> we are
>> 
>>> getting less than anticipated results with signal levels. So now
>>>   
>> finally the
>> 
>>> real question I am asking; is there really a difference between
>>>   
>> purchasing a
>> 
>>> special frequency license from MT and using the cheat of selecting a
>>> different country in order to select 5770 Mhz? Isn't 5770 Mhz still
>>>   
>> 5770 Mhz
>> 
>>> no matter what?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Buwa
>>>
>>> Michiana Wireless
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] New form of RSTP?

[Mike Delp]

RSTP is Rapid Spanning Tree Protocol

Thanks

Mike

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of John Scrivner
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Subject: [WISPA] New form of RSTP?

I am starting to think I am going crazy. Actually I have suspected this for
a long time now.  
I was sure I saw a recent announcement here from Mikrotik that they have
developed a new proprietary form of RSTP (reliable spanning tree protocol)
type of layer 2 fail over support and now I cannot find this when I search
for it. If anyone else saw this announcement can you please reply with a
link to the story about this? I am building a backhaul ring in my network
and want layer 2 failover for this backhaul ring. I am considering using
Mikrotik. If anyone has similar experience with actual RSTP switching
failover in the field and want to share your thoughts on implementation,
issues and/or other similar options I would welcome your thoughts.
Thank you,
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Re: [WISPA] Netflix and TiVo

[Mike Hammett]

Depending on vendor, 2xT1 here is around that price and I'm only an hour 
drive to downtown Chicago.


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> Who is to blame for this all you can eat fiasco? My guess would be AOL 
> back in the dialup days. I just can't seem to believe that the telco's 
> followed suit, of course back then, the FCC rules were a little different.
>
> I guess the buffet has spread over to the broadband times. Not much you 
> could do on dial-up at buffet level..when all speeds were basically the 
> same and you could "guess" at bandwidth based on the amount of backbone 
> bandwidth you had available compared to ports, but now it makes it hard to 
> predict usage levels if you have various bandwidth plans.
>
> I think some applications have bypassed the amount of bandwidth we have 
> available to us to stay in business. Of course, I operate in BFE where a 
> 2XT1 cost over $1300/mth. The FCC thinks these new apps foster 
> innovation...but it just spreads the digital divide even further IMHO.
>
> Scottie
>
>
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> Date:  Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:44:05 -0500
>
>>> I think the problem is until the "big boys" change, us little guys can't
>>> change to a metered system. Right now cable, DSL, licensed WiMax, etc.
>>> are all unlimited usage. There is no way I could change to a "pay per
>>> byte" model without losing a ton of customers.
>>
>>Exactly.  For those imposing bit caps where is the bit cap at?  Here
>>comcast is doing a 250GB bit cap then you here some of there customers
>>whining how thats not fair.  No way I can afford a 250GB per month
>>user.
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Re: [WISPA] New form of RSTP?

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

There is RSTP in current revisions of MT.   Is there a reason its not a 
routed backbone though?  Failover etc works so much better. 

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John Scrivner wrote:
> I am starting to think I am going crazy. Actually I have suspected this for
> a long time now.  
> I was sure I saw a recent announcement here from Mikrotik that they have
> developed a new proprietary form of RSTP (reliable spanning tree protocol)
> type of layer 2 fail over support and now I cannot find this when I search
> for it. If anyone else saw this announcement can you please reply with a
> link to the story about this? I am building a backhaul ring in my network
> and want layer 2 failover for this backhaul ring. I am considering using
> Mikrotik. If anyone has similar experience with actual RSTP switching
> failover in the field and want to share your thoughts on implementation,
> issues and/or other similar options I would welcome your thoughts.
> Thank you,
> John Scrivner
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[WISPA] New form of RSTP?

[John Scrivner]

I am starting to think I am going crazy. Actually I have suspected this for
a long time now.  
I was sure I saw a recent announcement here from Mikrotik that they have
developed a new proprietary form of RSTP (reliable spanning tree protocol)
type of layer 2 fail over support and now I cannot find this when I search
for it. If anyone else saw this announcement can you please reply with a
link to the story about this? I am building a backhaul ring in my network
and want layer 2 failover for this backhaul ring. I am considering using
Mikrotik. If anyone has similar experience with actual RSTP switching
failover in the field and want to share your thoughts on implementation,
issues and/or other similar options I would welcome your thoughts.
Thank you,
John Scrivner



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