RE: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes, but if you have flash plug-in, you cannot see alternative image. > So, the only reason is that when you don't have flash > installed, browser > shows you image with alternative description. But what James is getting at is that from an accessibility and usability point of view, you shouldn't simply put a "Sucks to be you...install Flash" type image. Some users explicitly don't enabled flash because they can't use it (e.g. some users of older screenreaders, or users with text-only browsers, etc). If the flash is only visual fluff, fine...have a static image there. But if your flash performs a function (for instance it's the main site navigation, all done in flash - a bad idea in any case, as search engines won't be able to follow those links...but I digress), try and replicate the function (in the example above, a STBY type message will be less than useful...instead, the alternate fallback should be a normal set of links to the pages to act as navigation). It all depends on what the flash is for, and if the information/service it provides can be replicated in straight HTML. Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay
Yes, but if you have flash plug-in, you cannot see alternative image. So, the only reason is that when you don't have flash installed, browser shows you image with alternative description. cheers Daniele http://www.gizax.it - Original Message - From: "James Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay Hi The idea of the cascading object tag is to place alternate *descriptive* content that reflects the intent of the content the user can't access, rather than a "no flash" image. HTH James On 7/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so browser that doesn't support flash plug-in, shows the alternative image "noflash.gif" ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 06:18 -0400, James Ellis wrote: > The idea of the cascading object tag is to place alternate > *descriptive* content that reflects the intent of the content the user > can't access, rather than a "no flash" image. Is there anything wrong with having an image as an intermediate fallback option (obviously with appropriate ALT text defined)? I'm no expert on using object tags, but I don't see anything wrong provided it's redundant at all levels... but am perfectly happy to be corrected if it's invalid or there are other reasons it's a bad practise... Kind Regards, Joshua Street base10solutions Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 Multimedia Development Agency E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the sender’s consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay
Hi The idea of the cascading object tag is to place alternate *descriptive* content that reflects the intent of the content the user can't access, rather than a "no flash" image. HTH James On 7/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > so browser that doesn't support flash plug-in, shows the alternative image > "noflash.gif" ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay
I like flash satay method, but you can insert a tag image like this example so browser that doesn't support flash plug-in, shows the alternative image "noflash.gif" [ http://www.gizax.it/vtre/tutorial.php?valore=2&lingua=IT ] sorry, but is in italian language :-D cheers Daniel - Original Message - From: Jamie Mason To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay http://www.blatek.co.uk/blateksatay/ I quite like it, what do you think?
[WSG] Improvement on Flash Satay
http://www.blatek.co.uk/blateksatay/ I quite like it, what do you think?
