RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
And yet Shorten has been replaced by Flac. Hey here’s a little software that’s just getting started. It’s a front end for shn (shorten) Flac, ape and mkw. It comes with flac and ape built in and you have to install ape to gain it’s functionality. It also handles MD5, flac fingerprints, shntool and all other checksum files. All this built into one handy user interface. It only decodes for now but encoding is coming in future versions. It already can make all the checksum files as well as check them. It’s the windows equivalent of xACT for the Mac. Traders Little Helper http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/ Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Goddard Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS MKW Is almost gone it wont even work on recent pc's such as my own its been overtaken by SHORTEN John - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Thanks for that Jim It works fine on that one. For Mac users it's a better program than MacFlac and CarbonShorten as it does the job of both in one. It might be MKW that is the problem for Mac's. I've never tried to use them, never come across any really, most stuff comes in Flac or Shn format. Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 7:16 am, Jim L wrote: Have you tried it? I might have been mixing up ape and mkw or whatever that fourth format is called. Try it on this little one. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Haldenby Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:53 AM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No Problem for Mac's Get a program called ' xACT' (x Audio Compression Tool) It works a treat for FLAC SHN and APE http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21952 Product Description: xACT stands for X Audio Compression Toolkit. It is a GUI based front end (written in AppleScript Studio) for the unix applications Shorten (3.5.1), shntool (2.0.3), monkey's audio compressor (3.99),flac (1.1.1) and cdda2wav 2.01a32(with paranoia support). It also uses a modified md5sum (modified from 2.1 textutils) and sox (12.17.7). It does the basic commands of these applications and adds a few features to speed up productivity in creation of etree.org standard filesets. Makes it's own sauce. And it's Free! Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 1:18 am, Jim L wrote: Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS John Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
MKW Is almost gone it wont even work on recent pc's such as my own its been overtaken by SHORTEN John - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Thanks for that Jim It works fine on that one. For Mac users it's a better program than MacFlac and CarbonShorten as it does the job of both in one. It might be MKW that is the problem for Mac's. I've never tried to use them, never come across any really, most stuff comes in Flac or Shn format. Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 7:16 am, Jim L wrote: Have you tried it? I might have been mixing up ape and mkw or whatever that fourth format is called. Try it on this little one. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris HaldenbySent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:53 AMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No Problem for Mac's Get a program called ' xACT' (x Audio Compression Tool) It works a treat for FLAC SHN and APE http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21952 Product Description: xACT stands for X Audio Compression Toolkit. It is a GUI based front end (written in AppleScript Studio) for the unix applications Shorten (3.5.1), shntool (2.0.3), monkey's audio compressor (3.99),flac (1.1.1) and cdda2wav 2.01a32(with paranoia support). It also uses a modified md5sum (modified from 2.1 textutils) and sox (12.17.7). It does the basic commands of these applications and adds a few features to speed up productivity in creation of etree.org standard filesets. Makes it's own sauce. And it's Free! Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 1:18 am, Jim L wrote: Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS John Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. Their only album is '
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Interesting Forum item about formatshttp://www.purelivegigs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119On 25 Jun 2005, at 7:16 am, Jim L wrote: Have you tried it? I might have been mixing up ape and mkw or whatever that fourth format is called. Try it on this little one. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Haldenby Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:53 AM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No Problem for Mac's Get a program called ' xACT' (x Audio Compression Tool) It works a treat for FLAC SHN and APE http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21952 Product Description: xACT stands for X Audio Compression Toolkit. It is a GUI based front end (written in AppleScript Studio) for the unix applications Shorten (3.5.1), shntool (2.0.3), monkey's audio compressor (3.99),flac (1.1.1) and cdda2wav 2.01a32(with paranoia support). It also uses a modified md5sum (modified from 2.1 textutils) and sox (12.17.7). It does the basic commands of these applications and adds a few features to speed up productivity in creation of etree.org standard filesets. Makes it's own sauce. And it's Free! Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 1:18 am, Jim L wrote: Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS John Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Zappa-List" on the web. · To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Thanks for that JimIt works fine on that one.For Mac users it's a better program than MacFlac and CarbonShorten as it does the job of both in one.It might be MKW that is the problem for Mac's. I've never tried to use them, never come across any really, most stuff comes in Flac or Shn format.Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 7:16 am, Jim L wrote: Have you tried it? I might have been mixing up ape and mkw or whatever that fourth format is called. Try it on this little one. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cris Haldenby Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:53 AM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No Problem for Mac's Get a program called ' xACT' (x Audio Compression Tool) It works a treat for FLAC SHN and APE http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21952 Product Description: xACT stands for X Audio Compression Toolkit. It is a GUI based front end (written in AppleScript Studio) for the unix applications Shorten (3.5.1), shntool (2.0.3), monkey's audio compressor (3.99),flac (1.1.1) and cdda2wav 2.01a32(with paranoia support). It also uses a modified md5sum (modified from 2.1 textutils) and sox (12.17.7). It does the basic commands of these applications and adds a few features to speed up productivity in creation of etree.org standard filesets. Makes it's own sauce. And it's Free! Cris On 25 Jun 2005, at 1:18 am, Jim L wrote: Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS John Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Zappa-List" on the web. · To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] · Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Jim, whatever the format..I'd appreciate a copy Paul aka centralscrew10iser On 6/25/05, Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have you tried it? I might have been mixing up ape and mkw or whatever that > fourth format is called. Try it on this little one. > > > > > > Jim L > > > > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Cris Haldenby > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 12:53 AM > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT > W/ARTWORKS > > > > > > > > No Problem for Mac's > > > > > > Get a program called ' xACT' (x Audio Compression Tool) > > >It works a treat for FLAC SHN and APE > > > > > > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/21952 > > > > > > Product Description: > > > xACT stands for X Audio Compression Toolkit. It is a GUI based front end > (written in AppleScript Studio) for the unix applications Shorten (3.5.1), > shntool (2.0.3), monkey's audio compressor (3.99),flac (1.1.1) and cdda2wav > 2.01a32(with paranoia support). It also uses a modified md5sum (modified > from 2.1 textutils) and sox (12.17.7). It does the basic commands of these > applications and adds a few features to speed up productivity in creation of > etree.org standard filesets. > > > > > > Makes it's own sauce. > > > And it's Free! > > > > > > Cris > > > > > > > > On 25 Jun 2005, at 1:18 am, Jim L wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Jim L > > > > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFA > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT > W/ARTWORKS > > > > > > Okay, so we have something new to contend with... > > > Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - > come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume > it's out there for free somewhere? > > > You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not > living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... > > > Tell us what's up wi'dat! > > > SOFA > > > - Original Message - > > > From: John Goddard > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT > W/ARTWORKS > > > > > > Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! > > > John > > > - Original Message ----- > > > From: SOFA > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT > W/ARTWORKS > > > > > > This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE > format??? > > > SOFA > > > - Original Message - > > > From: John Goddard > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM > > > Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT > W/ARTWORKS > > > > > > John > > > Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) > > > > > > Frank Zappa - Producer > Lowell George - Producer > Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer > David Jones - Composer > > > > > > Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an > experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of > Invention, and > > > GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, > GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together > Often. > > > > > > Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later > reissued in 1989. > > > Zappa-List" on the web. > > > · To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > · Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ___
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
MONKEY ? APE? APE Shit? Vine?My God, it's a jungle out there!:o)On 24 Jun 2005, at 11:17 pm, SOFA wrote:Okay, so we have something new to contend with...Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere?You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now...Tell us what's up wi'dat!SOFA- Original Message -From: John GoddardTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PMSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKSSOFAActually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio!You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John- Original Message -From: SOFATo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PMSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKSThis will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format???SOFA- Original Message -From: John GoddardTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PMSubject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John--- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989.Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups LinksTo visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Ah good idea. If you set the flac encoder to 8 it will get the files almost as small as ape. The flac installer for windows also has a Winamp plug-in as well as a Nero plug-in that lets Nero users record audio CD directly from flac. http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Goddard Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:42 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Right on That changes everything its going out in FLAC with software on board for the macs John - Original Message - From: Jim L To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:18 AM Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ You can get it here. The good thing about ape is that it compresses a tiny bit smaller than flac and is still lossless. The bad thing about ape is that unlike flac it leaves our Mac using friends out in the cold. It’s primarily a Windows only format. There have been some projects to get it to work with OS X but user reports haven’t been good. In fact it just plain doesn’t work for them. Most online trading communities have banned it until the Mac problem is resolved. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with
RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
well id think that id rather listin to the cd that the apeJim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well if you have Winamp installed beforehand it will install a plug-in that will let you play ape directly in Winamp without decompressing first. You can decompress the ape files to wav files however and then burn a regular audio CD from the wav files with Nero or Roxio or whatever you normally use. Its like burning a CD from (gulp) mp3 files only far better quality sound. The only difference is that the file size is much larger than mp3 so make sure you have about 600mb available on the hard drive (per disc) to temporarily hold the wav files. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WHITE RABBITTSent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:24 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS so i can play it on my cd rom drive on my puterJim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ You can get it here. The good thing about ape is that it compresses a tiny bit smaller than flac and is still lossless. The bad thing about ape is that unlike flac it leaves our Mac using friends out in the cold. Its primarily a Windows only format. There have been some projects to get it to work with OS X but user reports havent been good. In fact it just plain doesnt work for them. Most online trading communities have banned it until the Mac problem is resolved. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things,
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Right on That changes everything its going out in FLAC with software on board for the macs John - Original Message - From: Jim L To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:18 AM Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ You can get it here. The good thing about ape is that it compresses a tiny bit smaller than flac and is still lossless. The bad thing about ape is that unlike flac it leaves our Mac using friends out in the cold. Its primarily a Windows only format. There have been some projects to get it to work with OS X but user reports havent been good. In fact it just plain doesnt work for them. Most online trading communities have banned it until the Mac problem is resolved. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff
RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Well if you have Winamp installed beforehand it will install a plug-in that will let you play ape directly in Winamp without decompressing first. You can decompress the ape files to wav files however and then burn a regular audio CD from the wav files with Nero or Roxio or whatever you normally use. It’s like burning a CD from (gulp) mp3 files only far better quality sound. The only difference is that the file size is much larger than mp3 so make sure you have about 600mb available on the hard drive (per disc) to temporarily hold the wav files. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WHITE RABBITT Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:24 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS so i can play it on my cd rom drive on my puter Jim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ You can get it here. The good thing about ape is that it compresses a tiny bit smaller than flac and is still lossless. The bad thing about ape is that unlike flac it leaves our Mac using friends out in the cold. It’s primarily a Windows only format. There have been some projects to get it to work with OS X but user reports haven’t been good. In fact it just plain doesn’t work for them. Most online trading communities have banned it until the Mac problem is resolved. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played l
RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
so i can play it on my cd rom drive on my puterJim L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ You can get it here. The good thing about ape is that it compresses a tiny bit smaller than flac and is still lossless. The bad thing about ape is that unlike flac it leaves our Mac using friends out in the cold. Its primarily a Windows only format. There have been some projects to get it to work with OS X but user reports havent been good. In fact it just plain doesnt work for them. Most online trading communities have banned it until the Mac problem is resolved. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. No virus found in this i
RE: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ You can get it here. The good thing about ape is that it compresses a tiny bit smaller than flac and is still lossless. The bad thing about ape is that unlike flac it leaves our Mac using friends out in the cold. It’s primarily a Windows only format. There have been some projects to get it to work with OS X but user reports haven’t been good. In fact it just plain doesn’t work for them. Most online trading communities have banned it until the Mac problem is resolved. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFA Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:18 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially! For further Z-related fun, please visit
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
grody to the maxSOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, tell us what I win John... SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA 100% Correct JohnFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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So, tell us what I win John... SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA 100% Correct John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
SOFA 100% Correct John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, John, so from what you say, the program needed to read the audio files is included on this disk; correct? One would have to install this APE thingy, and then convert the files, right? (you really have to bear with me Bro, I am supremely stupid when it comes to 'puters) SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No problem SOFA, all software is on the disc everything is on board one disc Even the printing software ! Its not rocket science to suss either! The reason behind compression is logical in sofar you can get more on one disc and with it been in DATA Format you can load artwork and software too One of the best reasons though is burning parameters each individual will burn his or her own audio disc at the speed they want to,(after converting the data files to Wav(High quality Stereo music Files) this won't introduce glitches and clicks when copying Audio only discs - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
ape thingy? grody to the max gag me with a spoonSOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, John, so from what you say, the program needed to read the audio files is included on this disk; correct? One would have to install this APE thingy, and then convert the files, right? (you really have to bear with me Bro, I am supremely stupid when it comes to 'puters) SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No problem SOFA, all software is on the disc everything is on board one disc Even the printing software ! Its not rocket science to suss either! The reason behind compression is logical in sofar you can get more on one disc and with it been in DATA Format you can load artwork and software too One of the best reasons though is burning parameters each individual will burn his or her own audio disc at the speed they want to,(after converting the data files to Wav(High quality Stereo music Files) this won't introduce glitches and clicks when copying Audio only discs - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d an
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Okay, John, so from what you say, the program needed to read the audio files is included on this disk; correct? One would have to install this APE thingy, and then convert the files, right? (you really have to bear with me Bro, I am supremely stupid when it comes to 'puters) SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS No problem SOFA, all software is on the disc everything is on board one disc Even the printing software ! Its not rocket science to suss either! The reason behind compression is logical in sofar you can get more on one disc and with it been in DATA Format you can load artwork and software too One of the best reasons though is burning parameters each individual will burn his or her own audio disc at the speed they want to,(after converting the data files to Wav(High quality Stereo music Files) this won't introduce glitches and clicks when copying Audio only discs - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesize
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Lemme handle this one, rabbitt... I'll make sure you're included - if you can indeed do anything with this. SOFA - Original Message - From: WHITE RABBITT To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS im the one who started this gto vine dont forget me, i asked for itScott Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll start, I guess.Scott Burnett - US << --- John Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too!> > > John>---> > Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969)> > The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady> Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class> experiences> Who's Jim Sox?> Kansas and the BTO's> The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes> Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones?> Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation)> The Moche Monster> TV Lives> Rodney> I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle> Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago> The Original GTO's> The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment)> Love On An Eleven Year Old Level> Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago> I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man> > Frank Zappa - Producer> Lowell George - Producer> Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer> David Jones - Composer> > Miss Christine - Vocals> Miss Cinderella - Vocals> Miss Mercy - Vocals> Miss Pamela - Vocals> Miss Sandra - Vocals> +> Ian Underwood - Keyboards> Don Preston - Synthesizer> Roy Estrada - Bass> Jimmy Carl Black - Drums> Frank Zappa - Tambourine> Jeff Beck - Guitar> Rod Stewart - Vocals> Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards> Craig Doerge - Keyboards> +> Rodney Bingenheimer vocals> > Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band.> They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and > some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them.> > GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously,> GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often.> > They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they> had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks.> They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street> kids. > > Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in> 1972.> > Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later> reissued in 1989.> Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!> Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.comFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
No problem SOFA, all software is on the disc everything is on board one disc Even the printing software ! Its not rocket science to suss either! The reason behind compression is logical in sofar you can get more on one disc and with it been in DATA Format you can load artwork and software too One of the best reasons though is burning parameters each individual will burn his or her own audio disc at the speed they want to,(after converting the data files to Wav(High quality Stereo music Files) this won't introduce glitches and clicks when copying Audio only discs - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
im the one who started this gto vine dont forget me, i asked for itScott Burnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll start, I guess.Scott Burnett - US << --- John Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too!> > > John>---> > Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969)> > The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady> Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class> experiences> Who's Jim Sox?> Kansas and the BTO's> The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes> Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones?> Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation)> The Moche Monster> TV Lives> Rodney> I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle> Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago> The Original GTO's> The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment)> Love On An Eleven Year Old Level> Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago> I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man> > Frank Zappa - Producer> Lowell George - Producer> Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer> David Jones - Composer> > Miss Christine - Vocals> Miss Cinderella - Vocals> Miss Mercy - Vocals> Miss Pamela - Vocals> Miss Sandra - Vocals> +> Ian Underwood - Keyboards> Don Preston - Synthesizer> Roy Estrada - Bass> Jimmy Carl Black - Drums> Frank Zappa - Tambourine> Jeff Beck - Guitar> Rod Stewart - Vocals> Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards> Craig Doerge - Keyboards> +> Rodney Bingenheimer vocals> > Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band.> They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and > some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them.> > GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously,> GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often.> > They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they> had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks.> They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street> kids. > > Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in> 1972.> > Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later> reissued in 1989.> Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!> Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.comFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Okay, so we have something new to contend with... Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's out there for free somewhere? You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just now... Tell us what's up wi'dat! SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
I'll start, I guess. Scott Burnett - US << --- John Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there > too! > > > John > --- > > Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) > > The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady > Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early > gym class > experiences > Who's Jim Sox? > Kansas and the BTO's > The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes > Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? > Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better > (Circular Circulation) > The Moche Monster > TV Lives > Rodney > I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle > Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago > The Original GTO's > The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) > Love On An Eleven Year Old Level > Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago > I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man > > Frank Zappa - Producer > Lowell George - Producer > Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer > David Jones - Composer > > Miss Christine - Vocals > Miss Cinderella - Vocals > Miss Mercy - Vocals > Miss Pamela - Vocals > Miss Sandra - Vocals > + > Ian Underwood - Keyboards > Don Preston - Synthesizer > Roy Estrada - Bass > Jimmy Carl Black - Drums > Frank Zappa - Tambourine > Jeff Beck - Guitar > Rod Stewart - Vocals > Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards > Craig Doerge - Keyboards > + > Rodney Bingenheimer vocals > > Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an > experiment, like a joke band. > They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and > some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. > > GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, > GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together > Often. > > They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they > had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other > girl freaks. > They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of > them were street > kids. > > Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, > Massachusetts in > 1972. > > Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later > reissued in 1989. > Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially! > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
i was the one who asked for this vine about the gtosSOFA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
SOFA Actually the de compress software you use is called Monkeys Audio! You convert APE Files In to WAV Files and burn them John - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.0/27 - Release Date: 23/06/2005 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE format??? SOFA - Original Message - From: John Goddard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially!For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too! John --- Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969) The Eureka Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class experiences Who's Jim Sox? Kansas and the BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) The Moche Monster TV Lives Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo Man Frank Zappa - Producer Lowell George - Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - Composer David Jones - Composer Miss Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - Vocals Miss Mercy - Vocals Miss Pamela - Vocals Miss Sandra - Vocals + Ian Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - Synthesizer Roy Estrada - Bass Jimmy Carl Black - Drums Frank Zappa - Tambourine Jeff Beck - Guitar Rod Stewart - Vocals Nicky Hopkins - Keyboards Craig Doerge - Keyboards + Rodney Bingenheimer vocals Frank Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, and some famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them. GTO stood for lots of things, including: Girls Together Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. They didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks who liked the company of other girl freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. Their only album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and later reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable Commercially! For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.