Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread Charles Forsyth
i've just got back to reading the list to find that some people clearly have no difficulty using a keyboard!

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread errno
On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 01:30:37 PM andrey mirtchovski wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, errno wrote: > > [words like "bazillion"] > > can you summarize what you wrote using less keystrokes? the time spent > thinking your message through is certainly worth the delay in clicking > "sen

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread andrey mirtchovski
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, errno wrote: > [words like "bazillion"] can you summarize what you wrote using less keystrokes? the time spent thinking your message through is certainly worth the delay in clicking "send".

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread errno
On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 09:27:49 AM Jacob Todd wrote: > There's an article on the wiki containing links to related info, also. > Does anyone have the actual text of this $50 million dollar research apple performed? Does anyone know the actual parameters and proficiency levels of the human subj

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread dexen deVries
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 20:16:49 Connor Lane Smith wrote: > (...) The optimal > solution is to use *both* the mouse and keyboard, because they each > have their advantages. Doesn't that seem reasonable? Yep. It's the FWD vs. RWD drive depacle all over again. You can stunts drive with RWD, you

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread Harri Haataja
On 15 June 2011 21:16, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > is not better than the keyboard for other commands. The study from > 1989 is basically based around the claim that it "takes two seconds to > decide upon which special-function key to press." I'm sorry, does > anyone truly believe that it takes a

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, Honestly I think both sides of this argument are completely absurd. Yes, the mouse is best for selecting points and ranges. No, the mouse is not better than the keyboard for other commands. The study from 1989 is basically based around the claim that it "takes two seconds to decide upon which

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread Mauricio CA
> http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 I've recently attached a mouse to my computer just to experiment with acme of plan9 from user space, and I really liked it. I wonder, though, if we could operate acme as a window manager like, say, wmii. For instance, could I write a script in acme t

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread John Floren
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jack Norton wrote: > Would Plan 9 (rio) benefit from a default mapping of magic keystrokes that > correspond to certain actions? I think so.  But only as a means of saving > your ass when your mouse explodes.  Even then, grab another pc and drawterm > or cpu in. >

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread Jack Norton
dexen deVries wrote: On Wednesday 15 of June 2011 18:23:56 David Leimbach wrote: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 I'm getting tired of the level of groupthink. Yesterday it was about Anthropogenetic Global Warming^W^W^W Anthropogenic Climate Change (with a comment stating pretty m

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread dexen deVries
On Wednesday 15 of June 2011 18:23:56 David Leimbach wrote: > http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 I'm getting tired of the level of groupthink. Yesterday it was about Anthropogenetic Global Warming^W^W^W Anthropogenic Climate Change (with a comment stating pretty much ``whether the themp

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread Jacob Todd
There's an article on the wiki containing links to related info, also.

[9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

2011-06-15 Thread David Leimbach
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2657135 Dave

Re: [9fans] Any 9fans at USENIX this week?

2011-06-15 Thread hiro
What are you doing in Aachen? I never managed to go to any 9fans gathering, but I live nearby. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 08:49, Jeff Sickel wrote: > Not at USENIX, but any 9fans in Aachen this week? > > -jas > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > >> -Skip >> >> > > >

Re: [9fans] unable to start plan9 on atom330 in virtualbox

2011-06-15 Thread Cr0t daywalker
http://www.vitanuova.com/inferno/papers/acidpaper.html ©®0t On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Josh Marshall < joshua.r.marshall.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a resource whereby I could pickup this kind of debug skill, or is > this experience, and assembly knowledge? > > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2