Re: [AFMUG] OT: about time

2022-10-06 Thread Robert
Brother of a friend got sentenced for simple possession, went to the big house and raped by white supremists.. joined them to keep from getting killed, got aids and then used as a pawn by same WS and convicted of threatening the governor..  So wrong on so many levels... On 10/6/22 5:29 PM, Chu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: about time

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I know a guy that got life for weed under the three strikes law back in the late 1980s.Last time he saw me he said: “fuck chuck, you can kill somebody and only get 15 years. This is crazy” I don’t know if he ever got out. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 6:00 PM To: An

Re: [AFMUG] OT: about time

2022-10-06 Thread Darin Steffl
Took long enough. No one should be in prison for simple possession of weed. It turns non-violent criminals into something worse than that. I'm sure it's traumatizing for those incarcerated for something that didn't hurt anyone. Why put people in prison for weed but sentence people way less time, o

[AFMUG] OT: about time

2022-10-06 Thread Bill Prince
My nephew has a close friend who was sent up 8 years for possession of 2 or 3 ounces of weed. I think he got a couple years off for good behavior or something, but the kid wasn't even 21. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/10/06/statement-from-president-biden-on-

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Bill Prince
i chafe with they because it obfuscates singular versus plural. I you are talking about a person in a group of 3 or more and say they, people won't know if you're talking about an individual or the whole group. bp On 10/6/2022 3:55 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: At least those are run of the mill

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Jason McKemie
At least those are run of the mill pronouns, holy sh*t does it get convoluted: https://images.app.goo.gl/PWSo9UqZMASSb7YC7 Don't ask me what 95% of them mean. They seems pretty safe, so I guess just use that when you're around the potentially woke. On Thursday, October 6, 2022, Chuck McCown via

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Apparently if you're a student teacher you get marked down for saying "you guys" to a group of guys. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 3:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I imagine the worst venue for this is if you were teaching college. I > think I would just use their names. I would prefer to say

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I imagine the worst venue for this is if you were teaching college. I think I would just use their names. I would prefer to say Mr Howard and Mr Christian but I am certain that is stepping in a pile of poo too. Mr and Ms are possibly verboten now? I am wholly out of it when it comes to these

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
But when you are in a group referring to a member of the group in a thread bout how Forrest’s products are great, I might say he really takes good care of customers with you standing there. But if you insist I would have to “they” take good care of their customers referencing to you personally

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread James Howard
Seems like it would be much simpler to just refer to everyone the same way. If you’re talking about someone who isn’t around you can just say “that idiot” when referring to him/her/it/he/she and “those idiots” instead of they/them. Much cleaner that way. From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Chri

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF Pulling my hair out

2022-10-06 Thread Robert Haas
Make sure you haven't duplicated your router id. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 1:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OSPF Pulling my hair out I have a site with a RB4011 connected via an old M5 Powerbridge, a

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I heard an admittedly right wing commenter describe it this way.. You rarely use a gendered pronoun when talking to someone.You use their name or "you".You only use the gendered pronouns when they aren't around. So people asking you to use their preferred pronoun are asking you to change

Re: [AFMUG] OSPF Pulling my hair out

2022-10-06 Thread Trey Scarborough
check and make sure you don't have BFD enabled also check your interface types ptp or broadcast. If its a PTP link make it PTP. If it is broadcast you have to make sure the radios will pass it and not filter it out.  I'm not sure about the epmp ptp links if it has the setting, but on ubnt and s

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Carl Peterson
I don't really care what gender you want to be, or even no gender but I'm never saying "they is" I will just refer to them by their name. Sam is going to the store. On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Phew. Glad I'm exempted. > > > bp > > > On 10/6/2022 10:53 AM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Bill Prince
Phew. Glad I'm exempted. bp On 10/6/2022 10:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: BTW, boomers get a pass on all this complaining *From:* Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:51 AM *To:* Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Cc:* Chuck McCown *Subject:* Re: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
BTW, boomers get a pass on all this complaining From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:51 AM To: Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns Just a way to classify the woke vs the unwoke. Forcing a weird and unna

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If it is a single person going to the store I am, or I'm is the only way. We're connotes more than one person. Glad you asked me as I am the sole authority on written and spoken American English... -Original Message- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Just a way to classify the woke vs the unwoke. Forcing a weird and unnatural change in language. They/them/theirs are all plural. Third person plural. Adds confusion. Some languages do not genderize pronouns. Everyone is it or its. But here you would offend someone by calling them it.

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Chuck, So if someone that wants to be called 'They' is going to the store. Do 'They' say "I'm going to the store." or "We're going to the store" -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Communications www.Myakka.com -- Thursday, October 6, 2022, 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Bill Prince
If we had non-genderized pronouns it would not be a thing. Using "they/them/theirs" just irritates the s**t out of me. bp On 10/6/2022 10:14 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Got my first email where the sender listed their pronouns. It was from the clerk of the Utah court of appeals. She/Her/H

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
Too late, it's a thing. Getting it more and more from the oddest places. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2022 11:15 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: [AFMUG] OT pronouns Got my first email whe

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Virtue signaling from all directions is tiresome and counter-productive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, Octob

Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Darin Steffl
Why does this bother you? It's just an email signature. I don't list my pronouns anywhere, and have no desire to, but I'm certainly not offended or angered when I see someone list them in their email. Live and let live On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Got my first e

[AFMUG] OT pronouns

2022-10-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Got my first email where the sender listed their pronouns. It was from the clerk of the Utah court of appeals. She/Her/Hers I hope this does not become a thing. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com