DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 7300 - 7301, 7303 - 7306, and 7308 - 7313

2012-09-28 Thread Ed Murphy
Arkady wrote: On 27 September 2012 02:53, Ed Murphy wrote: Arkady became inactive on May 10 and I didn't find any later message in which e became active, so e was not an eligible voter (even if eir voting limit on 7310 was increased). For the record, e attempted to vote F A F F F, which woul

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Pavitra
On 09/28/2012 04:29 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, omd wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person? Yes it is. >> >> I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead >> persons can be con

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Craig Daniel
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, omd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person? Yes it is. > > I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead > persons can be considered persons (but aren't in Agora), is whether >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread omd
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person? Yes it is. I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead persons can be considered persons (but aren't in Agora), is whether "Bill Clinton" is the name of a world leader: the answ

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Tanner Swett
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > with 2 support, cause this rule to amend itself by replacing all > instances of the name "Machiavelli" with any other person's name.' Eh, lemme suggest changing this. 'Anyon

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can > > cause > > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " > > Now I am conflicted. On the one hand, I don't want to j

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > The rule says the text needs to be the "name of a person". Once a > > name has been associated with a person, that text is still the name > > of a particular person even if that person ceases to exist. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread omd
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The rule says the text needs to be the "name of a person". Once a > name has been associated with a person, that text is still the name > of a particular person even if that person ceases to exist. It's not the name of a person if the entity

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can > > cause > > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " > > Since slave golems are supposed to be repealed in the same s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can cause > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " Now I am conflicted. On the one hand, I don't want to just give someone else a dictatorship. On the other hand

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread omd
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Ah, yes. I create a slave golem named "scshunt CAN deregister. G. can cause > this rule to amend itself by announcement. No one " Since slave golems are supposed to be repealed in the same set of actions as the creation of the Machiavelli r

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:11 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > > > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'A

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:11 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > > > > with 2 sup

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Public consultation period

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I just want to be clear about something. I see where you make yourself > speaker, but I've missed the place where you remove yourself from having > power-3. Where does that happen? > > -G. I'll do it by announcement before repealing the dict

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > > > with 2 support, cause this rule to amend itself by replacing all > > > instan

DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 11:59 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > > Enact a rule with power 1 reading 'Anyone other than Machiavelli CAN, > > with 2 support, cause this rule to amend itself by replacing all > > instances of the name "Machiavelli" with any other pers

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Public consultation period

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM, ais523 wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 14:06 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: > >> This is a Victory Announcement: The rule entitled 'Win by Junta' > >> states that I can cause it to make arbitrary rule changes by > >> announcement

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Public consultation period

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM, ais523 wrote: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 14:06 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: >> This is a Victory Announcement: The rule entitled 'Win by Junta' >> states that I can cause it to make arbitrary rule changes by >> announcement, therefore I satisfy the Winning Condition of >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > >> I thought quite closely about the Prerogative of Prejudice. I wanted > >> something cool and powerful, but not entirely absurd. My rationale is > >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Public consultation period

2012-09-28 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 14:06 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: > This is a Victory Announcement: The rule entitled 'Win by Junta' > states that I can cause it to make arbitrary rule changes by > announcement, therefore I satisfy the Winning Condition of > Dictatorship. This almost certainly has to reference

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: >> I thought quite closely about the Prerogative of Prejudice. I wanted >> something cool and powerful, but not entirely absurd. My rationale is >> that Prejudice is not truly a just punishment, and sho

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Sean Hunt wrote: > I thought quite closely about the Prerogative of Prejudice. I wanted > something cool and powerful, but not entirely absurd. My rationale is > that Prejudice is not truly a just punishment, and should not be > considered a judicial resolution to controversy

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Sean Hunt > wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Schultz > > wrote: > >> If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a > >> non-player into the dictator position. > >> -- >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Craig Daniel
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Schultz > wrote: >> If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a >> non-player into the dictator position. >> -- >> OscarMeyr > > Bucky? I believe the Secretary of State wo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > Also: fun's fun, but I will also deregister if scshunt persists in these >> > changes. Consider that an objection, as well. >> >> Oh, come on.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, omd wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Also: fun's fun, but I will also deregister if scshunt persists in these > > changes. Consider that an objection, as well. > > Oh, come on. Although I feel obliged to counter-scam (not that it's > parti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a > non-player into the dictator position. > -- > OscarMeyr Bucky?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: New Gameplay Ho!

2012-09-28 Thread Benjamin Schultz
If you wanted a dictatorship in the true spirit of Agora, try scamming a non-player into the dictator position. -- OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2012-09-28 Thread Sean Hunt
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Tanner Swett wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM, omd wrote: >> [This currently definitely conflicts with Rule 105 (Rule Changes) and >> might conflict with Rule 2140 (Power Controls Mutability), as the >> Rulekeepor is not an instrument.] > > I would assume

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2012-09-28 Thread Tanner Swett
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM, omd wrote: > [This currently definitely conflicts with Rule 105 (Rule Changes) and > might conflict with Rule 2140 (Power Controls Mutability), as the > Rulekeepor is not an instrument.] I would assume that it does not conflict with Rule 2140, as the title of a ru

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2012-09-28 Thread Arkady English
On 27 September 2012 02:23, Ed Murphy wrote: > Clerk's Docket > > Date of this report: Thu 26 Sep 12 > Date of last report: Thu 23 Aug 12 > (All times are UTC) > > Unqualified (Rule 1868) > --- > > All of these players are supine, except as noted. > >Inactive: ais523