DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-08-01 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/31/19 4:42 PM, D. Margaux wrote: I CFJ this statement: Agora is ossified. I CFJ this statement: Rule 1698 (Ossification) is in effect. I favour these CFJs. I know I've already given gratuitous arguments, but since those ended up being similar to ais523/Aris's arguments, I don't think I'

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-08-01 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 20:07 -0400, D. Margaux wrote: > Ok--how about this: > > /// > { > Adopt a proposal with AI and other characteristics minimally > sufficient to give full effect to its terms, providing as follows: > > { The gamestate and ruleset are changed to what they were on 31 > J

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/31/19 8:07 PM, D. Margaux wrote: Or what about this: /// { Adopt a proposal with AI and other characteristics minimally sufficient to give full effect to its terms, providing as follows: { The gamestate and ruleset are changed to what they were on 31 July 2019. Then enact a R

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 5:07 PM D. Margaux wrote: > Or what about this: > > /// > { > Adopt a proposal with AI and other characteristics minimally sufficient to > give full effect to its terms, providing as follows: > > { The gamestate and ruleset are changed to what they were on 31 July >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread D. Margaux
On Jul 31, 2019, at 5:35 PM, "ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk" wrote: >> Here's a rule change that is trivially IMPOSSIBLE to enact: "Enact a >> power 100 Rule that states: 'It is, and always has been, IMPOSSIBLE >> to enact this rule.'" > It's not IMPOSSIBLE to enact that in the future. (Agora /doe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread Jason Cobb
On 7/31/19 5:27 PM, D. Margaux wrote: First, your example here would be an inseparable group of changes that result in Agora being ossified. Even if Proposal B depends on Proposal A being previously enacted to work, they are not inseparable. Proposal A could certainly be ADOPTED while Propos

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Wed, 2019-07-31 at 17:27 -0400, D. Margaux wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Jason Cobb > > wrote: > > > > Gratuitous: > > > > The 4 week period gives plenty of time for all of these rule > > changes to be effected in ~2 weeks. > > > > Start of Week 0: write proposal that repeals any p

DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread D. Margaux
> On Jul 31, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > > Gratuitous: > > The 4 week period gives plenty of time for all of these rule changes to be > effected in ~2 weeks. > > Start of Week 0: write proposal that repeals any protections (including > AIAN). Distribute this proposal. > > Week 0

DIS: Re: BUS: Ossification CFJs

2019-07-31 Thread D. Margaux
> On Jul 31, 2019, at 4:53 PM, "ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk" > wrote: > > Gratuitous: four weeks is enough time to change the rules such that > those amendments are possible, and still get in the example proposals > afterwards. There's no rule that the change has to be accomplished with > a sing