Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Pierson, Shawn
of the OOB classes to make the system easier to navigate. Shawn Pierson From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Pulsen Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Pulsen
** Thank you Shawn for your reply.My concern is, and this is what I have heard from BMC, when designing your Product categories, you need to think ahead to the design of the CMDB as well. It's all interrelated and affects reporting, trending analysis etc.I find it very difficult to design my

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Pierson, Shawn
Of Kevin Pulsen Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:35 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Thank you Shawn for your reply. My concern is, and this is what I have heard from BMC, when designing your Product categories, you need to think ahead

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Pulsen
** Well,I find it very disturbing from what Shawn stated - "Part of the problem is that there are no good answers to your questions"If the CMDB is really suppose to be the center of the Universe for ITSM, as it shows so well in the BMC literature, how can there be no real good answers?And if ITSM

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Kevin Pulsen
** Thanks Phil,I wasn't being sardonic.We have a non-IT support group that maintains non-IT related products (light bulbs, etc) they do however use Remedy.The point I have overlooked is that ITIL relies so much on IT only products, that the ITSM suite really excludes all other non-IT departments

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Phil Murnane
: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM Subject: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Well, I find it very disturbing from what Shawn stated - Part of the problem is that there are no good answers to your questions If the CMDB is really suppose to be the center of the Universe for ITSM

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Pierson, Shawn
list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Pulsen Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:16 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Well, I find it very disturbing from what Shawn stated - Part of the problem is that there are no good answers

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Pierson, Shawn
7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Thanks Phil, I wasn't being sardonic. We have a non-IT support group that maintains non-IT related products (light bulbs, etc) they do however use Remedy. The point I have overlooked is that ITIL relies so much on IT only products, that the ITSM suite

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-13 Thread Victor
, May 13, 2008 6:35:07 AM Subject: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Thank you Shawn for your reply. My concern is, and this is what I have heard from BMC, when designing your Product categories, you need to think ahead to the design of the CMDB as well. It's all

ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-12 Thread Kevin Pulsen
** Hello everyone,This question is for ITSM 7 (Service Desk with Change Management, ootb)If you open the Application Administration Console. Select Standard configuration, Product Category, Create a new product category, you are prompted to select a CI type for the product categorization you are

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-12 Thread Eli Schilling
Monday and I haven't had my coffee yet) Cheers! Eli From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Pulsen Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:25 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-12 Thread Kevin Pulsen
my coffee yet) Cheers! Eli From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin PulsenSent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:25 AMTo: arslist@ARSLIST.ORGSubject: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Hello everyone,This question is for ITSM 7

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-12 Thread Roger Justice
: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** Hi Eli, ok, but where does a Blackberry fall into the ootb CI? where does a telephone, office desk, fax, etc fall into the ootb CI? These aren't defined and the product category creation wizard will not allow you to created a item without

Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions

2008-05-12 Thread Chris Woyton
] Behalf Of Kevin Pulsen Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:58 PM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG Subject: Re: ITSM 7, CMDB CI and Product Definitions ** ahhh thanks, {module sarcasm} writeline (That's as useful as a 3 Inch ladder) {end sarcasm} So, what is the deal