Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Vincent Chong
Try portfast, if connecrivity issue. ""John Gotti"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey all...we are having a problem where workstations sporatically will not > be able to obtain an IP address from our DHCP server. After about 4 minutes, > you can perform a manual

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Vincent Chong
By the way, where is the DHCP server, if your DHCP is located in the other vlan, you need add ip-helper address in your router. Hope this help Vincent Chong ""John Gotti"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey all...we are having a problem where workstations sporat

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Charles Manafa
This is definitely a spanning tree issue. Enabling port fast on the access ports will get rid of the problem. CM -Original Message- From: John Gotti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 April 2001 15:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] Hey all...we are havi

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Phil Barker
Strongly in favour, A similar problem occurs in an IPX environment. Make sure all Servers/Clients are 'portfast' and switch/switch disable 'portfast'. Regards, Phil. --- John Gotti wrote: > Hey all...we are having a problem where workstations > sporatically will not > be able to obtain an IP

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Curtis Call
What you were told sounds correct to me. If you have a port that is only connecting to workstations or servers then turn on portfast for that port. That will prevent you from having problems with DHCP. At 08:43 AM 4/30/01, you wrote: >Hey all...we are having a problem where workstations spora

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
A few comments. First, not being able to obtain a DHCP lease upon initial boot isn't "a problem related to Cisco's Spanning Tree Protocol" implementation. Cisco implements the IEEE 802.1D STP algorithm that specifies when a port becomes active, it must go through the blocking, listening, and lea

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Bob Edmonds
How exactly do you configure portfast on a 2924XL-EN? Just wanna try it out! Thanks Bob Edmonds CCNA, Network+ ""John Gotti"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey all...we are having a problem where workstations sporatically will not > be able to obtain an IP a

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread LeBrun, Tim
Config t interface FastEthernet0/1 spanning-tree portfast Tim LeBrun CCNA, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Edmonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] How exactly do

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 11:08 AM 4/30/01, Phil Barker wrote: >Strongly in favour, > >A similar problem occurs in an IPX environment. >Make sure all Servers/Clients are 'portfast' and >switch/switch disable 'portfast'. A similar problem happens with AppleTalk too. That's what we get for expecting switches to replace

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Jason Roysdon
Oh, speaking of AppleTalk. We've got a customer (not mine, but one of the engineers working the account bounced this off me): They claim their new Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree is enabled. Supposedly this has been verified by Apple and TAC (but we've never had a customer lie to

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
It's the same old thing. You gotta turn on portfast. P. At 09:15 PM 4/30/01, Jason Roysdon wrote: >Oh, speaking of AppleTalk. We've got a customer (not mine, but one of the >engineers working the account bounced this off me): They claim their new >Macs can't access the network if Spanning Tree

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-04-30 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
l Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: April 30, 2001 7:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] > > > Oh, speaking of AppleTalk. We've got a customer (not mine, but one of the > engineers working th

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-01 Thread Jason Roysdon
ne > > > -Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: April 30, 2001 7:15 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] > > > > > > Oh, speaking of AppleTalk. We've got

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-01 Thread Medley, Tim
and I believe I do and I understand -Confucius Tim Medley - CCNA, CCDA VoIP Engineer 704-943-3615 - Phone 704-525-9119 - Fax 877-6-iReady - Helpdesk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-01 Thread Control Program
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 01:22:50AM -0400, Jim Gillen wrote: > I would read the document on the CISCO site and then if that doesn't help let > us know what is the nature of the problem. The document in question is: Using Portfast and Other Commands to Fix Workstation Startup Connectivity

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jim Gillen
ystems are capable as acting as a bridge, forwarding > packets between LAN segments. Enabling portfast essentially disables > Spanning > Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is used to ensure a loop-free environment. > > > -- Leigh Anne > > > -----Original Message- >

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
ave end-systems directly connected. The caveat to this is to > > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge, >forwarding > > packets between LAN segments. Enabling portfast essentially disables > > Spanning > > Tree on a port - and Spanning Tree is us

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] If it really takes 15-30 seconds for a switch to forward even when portfast is enabled, I can see why AppleTalk nodes would hate this. An AppleTalk node sends messages right aw

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon
; > problem" solution. The real solution is to enable portfast on all switch > > ports that have end-systems directly connected. The caveat to this is to > > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge, > forwarding > > packets between LAN segme

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Hire, Ejay
There is an Apple knowledgebase article about this issue. It is Doc#30922. Ejay Hire -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] Believe it or not it&#

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
a looped topology hasn't occurred, the > > port > > > is set to forwarding mode. This creates havoc with any end-system that > > > expects to receive over-the-network information within the first 50 > > seconds. > > > IP, IPX, AppleTalk - all face the same issue. > >

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon
em so I'll do whatever works and create a > >bigger > > > problem" solution. The real solution is to enable portfast on all > switch > > > ports that have end-systems directly connected. The caveat to this is > to > > > ensure none of the end-systems

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Marty Adkins
Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: > > It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread. When a > MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to communicate for > the first 50 seconds the port detects the end-system is active. The port > begins in blocking mode, then tr

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon
EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 2:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] > > > Believe it or not it's true! We did some test/research on it and we had to > modify some of our login processes to allow the switch to go t

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] It took me 10 times to get the thing to allow me to create a new account (each time, it would time out when I hit Continue, and when I'd go back all the form would be blank). Anyway, from the Knowledgebase at http://ww

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread LeBrun, Tim
and create a > bigger > > problem" solution. The real solution is to enable portfast on all switch > > ports that have end-systems directly connected. The caveat to this is to > > ensure none of the end-systems are capable as acting as a bridge, > forwarding > > packets betwe

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] > > > I wonder what switch and software version you were running at the time? I'm > trying this on a Catalyst 3524 XL Inline Power runnin

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Jason Roysdon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > It's a symptom of the problem I wrote about earlier in this thread. > >When > > > a > > > > MAC becomes active on the network, the computer isn't able to > >communicate > > &

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Christopher Supino
PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] Oh, speaking of AppleTalk. We've got a customer (not mine, but one of the engineers working the account bounced this off me): They claim their new Macs can't access the

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Tom Lisa
gt; > ( can't wait for PO's response to this one! ) > > chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > > > > > > The customer claims that even with portfast enabled the Macs won't > > >function > > > > due to Spanning tree. Has anyone else heard any such rumors about >this? &g

Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
gt; > > > chuck > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 1:39 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:Re: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] > > > >

RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564]

2001-05-02 Thread Medley, Tim
59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Spanning Tree Protocol [7:2564] The other way to solve the problem would be to delete AppleTalk and use native IP on your Mac's ;-> ( can't wait for PO's response to this one! ) chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PR