On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:21 PM, David Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:14:52PM -0500, John Harrop wrote:
>
> >1 second instead of 1/6 of a second. Yeah, like users will notice that
> >difference in startup times. :)
>
> I'm not actually complaining, but I do notice every single time I
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:14:52PM -0500, John Harrop wrote:
>1 second instead of 1/6 of a second. Yeah, like users will notice that
>difference in startup times. :)
I'm not actually complaining, but I do notice every single time I fire
up a REPL. The more code that you have, the longer it takes
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:57 PM, David Brown wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:42:26PM -0500, John Harrop wrote:
>
> >Are you talking about binding things like String.class to vars referenced
> by
> >symbols like String?
>
> Not just String.class, every single class referenced by a given
> name
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 08:42:26PM -0500, John Harrop wrote:
>Are you talking about binding things like String.class to vars referenced by
>symbols like String?
Not just String.class, every single class referenced by a given
namespace will be loaded, and most of them instantiated before a
single
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:30 PM, David Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 06:37:18PM +, Jim Downing wrote:
>
> >I might have misunderstood, but isn't the problem the same as in Java;
> >you can't know from a static analysis which classes are going to be
> >loaded?
>
> Except that Clojure
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 06:37:18PM +, Jim Downing wrote:
>I might have misunderstood, but isn't the problem the same as in Java;
>you can't know from a static analysis which classes are going to be
>loaded?
Except that Clojure will load all of them so it can bind them to the
vars in each name
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
> > But I should be able to know, through class inspection, whether my
> > 'main' program depends on a class which uses, say, the clojure.zip
> > namespace, and decide whether or not to include it. Or so I am
> > wondering.
>
> There are impe
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
>> I suppose a better question might be: would a tree-shaker have a
>> reasonable chance of shaking a typical Clojure jar, or are there too
>> many dynamic obstacles to a good analysis.
>
> I'm not sure it's worth solving this through low-leve
> But I should be able to know, through class inspection, whether my
> 'main' program depends on a class which uses, say, the clojure.zip
> namespace, and decide whether or not to include it. Or so I am
> wondering.
There are impediments to that, too -- your namespace might require
another, and
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Jim Downing wrote:
> Hi Graham
>
> 2009/11/20 Graham Fawcett :
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> This is somewhat a Java question, but it's in the context of Clojure,
>> so here goes. Playing with Leiningen got me thinking about bundling a
>> Clojure application as a JAR, which m
Hi Graham
2009/11/20 Graham Fawcett :
> Hi folks,
>
> This is somewhat a Java question, but it's in the context of Clojure,
> so here goes. Playing with Leiningen got me thinking about bundling a
> Clojure application as a JAR, which might include a host of classes
> that are loaded but never used
Hi folks,
This is somewhat a Java question, but it's in the context of Clojure,
so here goes. Playing with Leiningen got me thinking about bundling a
Clojure application as a JAR, which might include a host of classes
that are loaded but never used. Is it possible to "tree-shake" such a
jarfile, a
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