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On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:18:21PM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote:
| Agreed on that, but it's not rewriting all of the menu package, which
| is what I felt your post implied. Rewriting all menu files is fairly
| trivial and does not have to be done all at once.
It should also be fairly easy to get i
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:49:25PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
| Alternate approaches (that involve significantly less work)
That's the bit that I (and presumably others) am not convinced about.
You keep making this assertion, but with little to back it up. Have
you, e.g., looked at the Catego
George Danchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> p.s. why Apt-Fu ? Is that 'APT Kung-Fu' or what ? Hmm, after apt-src,
> apt-build, and similar 'build that debian source package' tools, I've been
> expecting for 'apt-too' ;-)
FWIW, the `fu' in kung-fu means something like style or technique, so
apt
Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - how to run madison and wanna-build
I thought the idea was for the unrestricted mirror to include a
read-only copy of the database madison consults.
wanna-build presumably needs more real-time access, though.
--
Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.
> - how to run the DELAYED queue (to give the possibility of deleting
> things from it or to see what's in it)
>
> - how to give developers the possibility of seeing what's in the queue
> (daily rsyncs are not good enough for this; I've frequently pulled
> packages from the accepted queue to
Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Straw man, again. The proposal was to rewrite all menu entries as
> .desktop files -
Yes. That is a straw man.
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Scripsit Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> > In which format shall application packages store
> > their menu information.
> It doesn't matter,
If you don't think the problem being discussed matters, why are you
participating in the discussion?
Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:57:29PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > Are you claiming that everyone who says that .desktop has technical
> > advantages is a liar?
> No. I'm claiming that everyone who says that "only by using .desktop
> exclusively ca
Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:49:54AM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote:
> > Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >
> > > It's "pass a few more text fields through to the menu methods, and
> > > use them to generate .desktop files" versus "rewrite everything".
> >
>
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 06:31:19PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > This is distinct from the autodetection in the kernel that is capable of
> > automatically scanning all harddisks on all busses to find RAID devices.
>
> Why can't you use the kernel autoconfig or does that only work with
>
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:49:54AM -0600, Billy Biggs wrote:
> Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > It's "pass a few more text fields through to the menu methods, and use
> > them to generate .desktop files" versus "rewrite everything".
>
> You sure it's "rewrite everything"? A script to
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:57:29PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
>
> > > You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the debian
> > > menu system? Like i1
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The open source development method have a very different
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Testing is a largely uncoordinated effort, driven by the
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evidence is gathered on tests actually ran, and no structured
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Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:37:55PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
>> - how to verify that katie will process uploads as expected (I'd been
>> running dinstall -n, via dput -D; I suppose it would be possible to
>> upload separately to the mirror and test t
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:06:02PM +0100, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
> Jamin W. Collins wrote [in a different order]:
>
> However, I'd prefer to have a "work in progress" blurb in
> README.Debian, partially to acknowledge that there are still some
> things to be smoothed out. (The reason I believe an u
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Tom wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:06:48PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> > freedesktop entry features > debian menu file features
> >
> > Therefore you can do a lossless transition from .desktop to menu, but not
> > the other way around. It makes sense to use th
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:37:55PM -0500, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> - how to verify that katie will process uploads as expected (I'd been
> running dinstall -n, via dput -D; I suppose it would be possible to
> upload separately to the mirror and test there, but that's awkward.)
Seems to me that,
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
>
> >> You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the
> >> debian menu system? Like i18n, icon theming, dynamic construction
Jamin W. Collins wrote [in a different order]:
> I've given most of the packages a cursory look. I do have a few
> suggestions and may be willing to sponsor them.
Thanks.
> Packaging concerns:
> - In several locations throughout the debconf questions you use "DBMS",
> this should probably be re
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 02:38:38PM +0100, Javier FernÃndez-Sanguino PeÃa
wrote:
> Ummm... You are wrong here. Knoppix (or Knoppix-derived versions) provide
> three things:
> ...
> 4- a system to duplicate this live Cd into hard disk, making the necessary
> changes based on what was auto-detected
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It makes a lot of sense to restrict auric permanently and have an
> up-to-date mirror for general access purposes. The issues I can think
> of are:
Although I agree that there is definitely something to be said for
this approach, I would like to note a
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On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 07:44:48PM +0100, Adam Byrtek / alpha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I maintain a program which needs to depend on certain version of some
> library (the earlier ones are incompatibile, despite soname wasn't
> changed), but I would also like to use shlib:Depends for other
> libraries.
>
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 12:20, Eric Wong wrote:
> Eric Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--cut--
> > OK, I'll do my best to have all the changes you requested done and
> > tested by tomorrow. Let me know if you have any other feature requests
> > and/or bug reports.
First of all, thank you ve
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 07:44:48PM +0100, Adam Byrtek / alpha wrote:
> I maintain a program which needs to depend on certain version of some
> library (the earlier ones are incompatibile, despite soname wasn't
> changed), but I would also like to use shlib:Depends for other
> libraries.
Shared li
Hi,
I maintain a program which needs to depend on certain version of some
library (the earlier ones are incompatibile, despite soname wasn't
changed), but I would also like to use shlib:Depends for other
libraries.
Now I use:
Depends: libtlen1 (>= 20021117), ${shlibs:Depends}
But it generates d
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Version : not yet released, currently CVS only
Upstream Author : Justin Karneges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://psi.affinix.com/
* License : LGPL
Description : The Qt Cryptographic Architecture (QCA)
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 02:02:10PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > The recent versions of the package have significant problems if you want to
> > convert to or from devfs. The Debian mkinitrd has become too complex to
> > manage so I have chosen not to b
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:52:39AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
>
> > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > There are quite a few, but make is a bad example, as it has included a
> > > shell script to build itself for just this purpose.
>
On Tuesday 09 December 2003 15:56, Colin Watson wrote:
> > 733 release-critical bugs were closed and NONE were opened.
> master ran out of disk space, which confused it. I've fixed it now.
Too bad. I wanted to believe it ;)
Raphael
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:54:45AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
>
> On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:10:36PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> >
> >>make? You'll need make installed to make make. There are a huge
> >>number
> >>of legitimat
An added note:
When I forced gpg to not use the subkey for the sig, it worked.
-- John
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:22:16AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > Try again. Be sure to make a new sigature.
>
> Now I get:
>
> Error: An er
Andrew Suffield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> It's "pass a few more text fields through to the menu methods, and use
> them to generate .desktop files" versus "rewrite everything".
You sure it's "rewrite everything"? A script to parse all .desktop
files in /usr/share/applications and output the same
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:17:44PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Following the instructions on
> https://db.debian.org/password.html, I have tried to get a new
> password. This has had no apparent effect, although I've tried
> it a few times now. I haven't received a bounce or a reply.
> Anyone else
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:06:48PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> Andrew Suffield wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
>
> >> You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the
> >> debian menu system? Like i18n, icon them
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:57:29PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
| > Because you gain *nothing*
|
| Are you claiming that everyone who says that .desktop has technical
| advantages is a liar? These features actually do not exist in the
| desktop format? (It may be so; I have no firsthand informat
Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> > You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the debian
> > menu system? Like i18n, icon theming, dynamic construction of a menu
> > hierarchy based on use
On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:10:36PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
make? You'll need make installed to make make. There are a huge
number
of legitimate circular build dependencies, outlawing them won't help.
There are quite a few, but make is a b
On Dec 8, 2003, at 07:14, Julian Mehnle wrote:
Apart from that, as soon as the use of IPv6 broadens, dynamically
assigned IP addresses will diminish.
Stateless autoconfig + privacy extensions means quite the opposite is
likely to occur.
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:11:08PM +0100, Magosányi Árpád wrote:
> The page says:
>
> 733 release-critical bugs were closed and NONE were opened.
>
> Is it a problem in the script, or there is something I haven't
> listen to?
master ran out of disk space, which confused it. I've fixed it now.
T
Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
>> You do realize that the desktop standard has more features than the
>> debian menu system? Like i18n, icon theming, dynamic construction of a
>> menu hierarchy based on user /Desktop system prefer
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Try again. Be sure to make a new sigature.
Now I get:
Error: An error occured while performing the LDAP lookup
==> Message Error: Key not found
I signed with my normal Debian key:
You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key f
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:06:48PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> freedesktop entry features > debian menu file features
>
> Therefore you can do a lossless transition from .desktop to menu, but not
> the other way around. It makes sense to use the .desktop standard.
I know what you mea
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:12:13AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> . Could you please try
> to keep debian-devel posts to well-thought-out [1] technical content,
Sure. I'd also ask everyone to keep their anti-American, anti-Bush SIGs
and random comments out of both lists. I have acted like a jack
Magosányi Árpád wrote:
> (Well, the word "confidentality" is not applicable in our
> case. Otherwise there are numerous measures.)
It is, Debian has decided to hide security bugs systematically from its
users (albeit for a limited time only, but the process is there).
The page says:
733 release-critical bugs were closed and NONE were opened.
Is it a problem in the script, or there is something I haven't
listen to?
--
GNU GPL: csak tiszta forrásból
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:45:58PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
>
> As for acting like a Jackass, the Johnny Knoxville and his colleagues are
> very
> talented entertainers who work hard. I wouldn't compare them to you in any
> way.
Oh, I dunno. I got *your* attention.
But chill the hell out
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 22:52, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:12:13AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > . Could you please try
> > to keep debian-devel posts to well-thought-out [1] technical content,
>
> Sure. I'd also ask everyone to keep their anti-American, anti-Bush SIGs
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:51:54AM +, James Troup wrote:
> Where can I login?
> --
>
> There's been a fair bit of talk post-compromise about restricting
> access to machines running (core) services. At the moment, the only
>
Eric Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 05:48:21PM -0800, Eric Wong wrote:
> > I have one feature request: I'd like to have an option so that I can ask
> > it to rebuild arch-indep packages just like it rebuilds other packages.
> >
Ben Pfaff wrote:
Following the instructions on
https://db.debian.org/password.html, I have tried to get a new
password. This has had no apparent effect, although I've tried
it a few times now. I haven't received a bounce or a reply.
Anyone else experienced this?
Use the "| mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Is there a scheduled time to see the
compromised servers up again?
sincerely.
Following the instructions on
https://db.debian.org/password.html, I have tried to get a new
password. This has had no apparent effect, although I've tried
it a few times now. I haven't received a bounce or a reply.
Anyone else experienced this?
(Not a huge deal, because I can still log in with
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, John Goerzen wrote:
> I just sent my first-ever message to the LDAP gateway to reset my
> password. I got the below message back. BTW, my clock is accurate.
>
> I used the exact "echo" command given in the docs.
>
> Also, I received no other reply.
There is a small bug in
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