Re: upgrading X in sid

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 03:04:32PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:29:18AM -0500, charlie derr wrote: >>> I have a laptop with a native resolution of 1900x1200 which has been >>> working fine for the past year an a

Re: Cannot update kernel

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:02:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Debian Etch on a white box AMD machine with 1GB RAM, I cannot > update the system. This is what I get: > > myhome:/home/zeev# apt-get update ... > Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org etch/non-free Packages > Fetched 6861kB in 1m33s (73.1kB

Re: Pulseaudio to replace ESD in lenny?

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 09:32:38PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Jan 26, 2008 8:03 PM, Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > RH 8 has switched to pulseaudio, SUSE is considering it. I was wondering > > what was on the mind of the Debian developers. Are they considering > > switching to it a

Re: print a sample of all fonts?

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:46:57PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:53:56 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > > > is there a way to have gimp or whatever print a sample of each > > font on the system without manually writing them all out? tia. > > Both answers so far seems

Re: upgrading X in sid

2008-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:29:18AM -0500, charlie derr wrote: > I have a laptop with a native resolution of 1900x1200 which has been working > fine for the past year an a half. > > This weekend I upgraded (which included both X and kde) in unstable/sid and > now I find that my X session is being

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 05:04:50AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >>> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >>>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote: >>>

Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 02:23:10PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:59:35 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > Instead of complaining pointlessly, maybe you could have said > > something like: . . . > > Sorry about my attitude, I was very disappointe

Re: How to get the life time of a given disk ?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 03:28:26AM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote: > Hello,.. > > > I would like to get the life time of hard disk (how much he worked in > hours or speens or whatever) > > > i tried using hdparam but it didn't show this info. > try smartctl smartctl -a /dev/hdb SMART Attribu

Re: Symple method to transfer some packages from Desktop system to laptop Debian Etch system?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 01:12:39AM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: ... > > I have a Desktop Debian GNU/Linux Etch with network connection, > and a laptop with installed only Debian GNU/Linux from netinstall.iso, > but laptop has not network connection. > > Is it a method how to "copy" some more debian

Re: Accessing a TV adapter via my network

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 05:19:10PM +, Barry Samuels wrote: > I would like to get a Hauppauge WinTV Nova T 500 adapter which I > understand works with Linux. Unless they've changed recently, this card should work. It has onboard mpeg2 compression which means that you can capture on it with a p

Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
? Allow me to demonstrate more appropriate responses below: On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 09:40:12PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:32:57 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >> >> I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls. > >> > K

Re: Exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 02:58:11PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:48:22PM +0100, Dan H. wrote: > > Hello, > > > > When the fetchmail demon starts running, it often gets large amounts of mail > > in one bunch an tries to shove it into exim for local delivery. However, >

Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 04:48:18PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:47:15 -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > > >> I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls. > > > > source ~/.bashrc > > Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied without > even

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote: >> >>> Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse buttons instead of the >>> keyboard, or if the sam

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West wrote: The space bar as a keyer would be fine as a straight-key (just the single up-down paddle you see in the movies about the Old West), but I was thinking more along the lines of emulating a paddle (two side-ways keys mounted back-to

Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 04:05:38PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > I have a usb memory stick which I successfully used for a netinst several > months ago. When I connected it today it was recognized as sg1 but it was > not recognized as a block device when I tried to mount it. well, if the ker

Re: exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 10:25:35AM +0100, Daniel Haude wrote: > Hello, > > Due a to an error in my /etc/exim4/passwd.client, quite a bit of mail was > refused by the remote SMTP relay host. I now fixed it but can't find the > messages any more. Does exim dump them? I still have them in my sent-mai

Re: Cable Modem setup

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:03:52AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > "Most, if not all, cable modems are easily configured for use with Linux" > > So please check me if what I think is right: > > 1. The box has an (presently unused) ethernet port and lspci shows it: > 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VI

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-24 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West wrote: Too bad; I think a lot of the hams would have enjoyed writing a simple little program to turn their PCs into a Morse keyer. I am no radio hammmer (?) no morse code since I was a boyscout 60 years ago. But I would think that one would rather use let&#

Re: /var/archive

2008-01-23 Thread Kent West
Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 23 Jan at 18:15 Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote sudo apt-get clean Done that - works a treat! What is the object of the archive, though? When you download .debs, this is the default location where they are stored for subsequent installation. M

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-22 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift keys, or the < and > keys. For one key, a short "dit" audio tone would be generated, and for the other key, a longer "dah&

Re: Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new userquestion: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: ... > > But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of > X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year, > unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is > nothing you can do but

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-19 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Kent West wrote: All I want to do is to detect two keys, say the left- and right-shift keys, or the < and > keys. For one key, a short "dit" audio tone would be generated, and for the other key, a longer "dah" audio tone would be generated. I n

Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-18 Thread Kent West
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:30:59PM -0600, Kent West wrote: I want to write a basic little Morse Code key program to put into the newsletter of the local amateur radio (ham) club. It'd be nice if it were cross-platform, and preferably easy-peazy on Linux and

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-18 Thread Kent West
Damon L. Chesser wrote: Jimmy Wu wrote: Wow, thanks for the many quick responses. I'm doing a "group reply" to the list by quoting everyone in one message. Not sure if this is top-posting, bottom-posting, or conversational-posting, but if this goes against mailing list etiquette, please tell m

Re: which to use: ext3, JFS, XFS, ReiserFS? [Was: new user question:

2008-01-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:32:25PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > > (8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3? > > > > no to either > > /boot should not be a single partition by itself.. > > it is part of /bin, /lib

OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-18 Thread Kent West
Hey folks! Apologies for the very off-topic post; I've been googling for the answer off-and-on for two days unsuccessfully, so I've finally decided to turn to the smartest group of people around. I want to write a basic little Morse Code key program to put into the newsletter of the local am

Re: Question about sending local email to gmail

2008-01-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:47:20PM +0100, Mr Shunz wrote: ... > > If with Verizon's SMTP works, to me is just a sign that gmail simply > blocks your ip. This is highly likely if you're trying to run a mail server from within a dynamic ip block. And more and more big providers are doing this becau

Re: Etch install with RAID 5

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:57:39PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum wrote: > On Jan 17, 2008 11:33 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:48:25PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >> O

Re: Etch install with RAID 5

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:48:25PM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:55:41PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum wrote: >> >>> Hello! >>> I am planning on installing a new Etch server. What I would like is to >&g

Re: Help with debconf

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 04:21:12PM +, Alex Gonzalez wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Thanks for your answer. > > I had been playing with the debconf configuration changing priority > values, to no avail. > > The current configuration is: > > debconf-apt-progress/info: > debconf-apt-progress/prep

Re: Etch install with RAID 5

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 02:55:41PM -0500, Patrick Zaloum wrote: > Hello! > I am planning on installing a new Etch server. What I would like is to > use 3xSATA2 disks to create a RAID5 array. During the install I know I > can create md RAID devices from the partition tables I set up > identically on

Re: Help with debconf

2008-01-17 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 03:59:35PM +, Alex Gonzalez wrote: > Back to my first problem, debconf doesn't reconfigure itself after the > purge. Here is the sequence of events, > > > pvalex:~# debconf-show pvrfs > * pvrfs/partition: /dev/hda2 > pvalex:~# apt-get --purge remove pvrfs > Reading pac

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
:37AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been quite a while, and we can't quote the whole > > &g

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:57:51AM +0100, Ulrich Schweitzer wrote: > On Tuesday 15 January 2008 05:34:28 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > I always hated that STOP AHEAD thing. I always figured if you are > > close enough to the words that it mattered which one you drove o

Re: Help with debconf

2008-01-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 03:50:42PM +, Alex Gonzalez wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to force debconf to forget about a package > configuration on removal, or to always ask the configuration questions > on install? I'm sure there is a way to do the second, and there is a debconf-doc package yo

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:23:39PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/15/08 19:24, s. keeling wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On 01/15/08 17:05, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>> The problem, the oft-overlooked side comment made by one of the &

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 04:57:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/15/08 16:46, Alex Samad wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:28:15AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval > >> philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on t

Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 05:23:53PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: > 2008/1/15, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote: > > > Paul Csanyi wrote: > > > >> I have installed Debian Etch with so

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:24:52AM +, I.E.Broadbent wrote: > > blimey ... what's next folks, arguing Gulliver-style about which end > of the egg to open? oh please. Don't start that old flame-war again! Everyone knows it's the small end. ... > > Can we kill this OT subject now please?

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 07:58:09AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy >> trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. > > Two. No, seven! > > Arg. You made

Re: debian-user help idea

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Jozef Peterka wrote: > Hi there, > I would like to say some of my very humble opinions. > 1. We should concentrate our efforts on Wiki pages, cause they seem to > me unmaintaned and outdated :/... and on other ONLINE resources as well I don't disagree wit

Re: From linux software raid to none software raid?

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Benjamin Schmidt wrote: > Paul Csanyi wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I have installed Debian Etch with software raid 1. >> >> I am using for this two sata drives. >> >> Is it possyble to turn this system to non software raid? >> >> Doing so I wish to get the first

Re: Advice: Hardware vs. Software RAID5

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 06:24:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm looking for general advice/tips/admonitions of doom. I'm getting > ready to build a file server and I want to have some data redundancy. > I've ordered four 350G SATA drives and I plan to put them into some > kind of RAID 5 c

Re: [OT] Stop Ahead (was top posting)

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:36:26PM +1100, Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:34:28PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > There's probably a reason I'm not a traffic engineer. > my thoughts as well ;-) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-15 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: Exotic mathematics without a grounding in reality is medieval philosophy trying to determine how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Two. No, seven! Arg. You made me lose count! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 02:06:33PM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote: > > >> Only if the lines are also reversed, kind of like how STOP AHEAD is >> painted on pavement with the word STOP first, then AHEAD after so you >> pass over the first word in the statement before the second. >> > > Well put! :-)

Re: [OT] top posting

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:44:57AM +0900, Peter F Bradshaw wrote: > Ok. Fine. Until you guys grow up this list is going to /dev/null. If people don't stop complaining and leaving this list, then I'm going to complain and leave! A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: ifconfig don't list interfaces

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
> 2008/1/13, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Osamu gave a suggestion about how to get more useable output by changing the language to english. This would make it easier for this list to help. He(she?) also asked a couple of relevant questions that could point to a solution to the problem On Sun,

Re: capacitor plague; was Re: Debian on IBM NetVista Type 6578-RAU

2008-01-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:33:01PM -0500, KS wrote: > Henry Luciano wrote: > > > > *sigh*, multiple times. The hardest thing is removing the old caps and > > desoldering the holes, but all in all it's not that bad. Keep the iron > > hot enough to melt the solder but not hot enough to damage the

Re: links in icedove/thunderbird stopped working

2008-01-12 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/12/08 00:18, Reid Priedhorsky wrote: Hi all, I run testing - I read email in icedove/thunderbird and browse the web with iceweasel/firefox. Lately (past few days) links have stopped working in icedove. Before, I'd click a web link and the page would come up in firefox

Re: Etch: emacs or emac21?

2008-01-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:58:38PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi, Debian users. > > In Sarge there was only the package `emacs21'. Now in Etch we have also > `emacs', but the difference between the two is not clear to me. What should I > install in order to use the Emacs editor, `emacs' or `

Re: How to filter out mailing list spam with bogofilter

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:31:48PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Wednesday 09 January 2008 22:03, John Hasler wrote: > > Nigel Henry writes: > > > I am genuinly trying to resolve the problem of filtering out spam, that > > > occasionally turns up on mailing lists. As I've said bogofilter works > >

Re: startx from terminal or telnet

2008-01-09 Thread Kent West
hagit wrote: Hi, I have a very strange phenomenon. I connect to my box with telnet, SSH is generally preferred to telnet nowadays for security reasons. change to super user (root) and run It's generally recommended to not run X as root. (It's generally not recommended to run anything

Re: ipw3945 takes a while to warm up???

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 02:21:08AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > A few days ago, in the middle of a spam storm, I wrote: > > > > > Hi list > > > > I'm running etch on a Toshiba Satellite laptop I picked up about a year > > ago now in Hong Kong. It's on my home wireless LAN supported by a > > Buf

Re: Goodbye

2008-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 04:51:36PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Tuesday 08 January 2008 16:09, Joel Roberts wrote: > > I've gotten a lot of good information from this list, and hopefully > > supplied some as well, but I'm not going to weed through hundreds of > > spam e-mails weekly to pursu

Re: mdadm problem creating device

2008-01-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 10:04:15AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.01.06.2351 +0100]: > > OP is building a deprecated (I think that's the term) array. > > degraded, actually. I new it was something li

Re: gnucash in Sarge crashes when opening file; started after recent security updates

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 12:34:24AM +0100, Tomasz Szpakowicz wrote: > Thanks for your answer. > > But no scheduled transactions. > > I know I won't get much help with such an old version. That's why I > asked on debian-users if someone has similar problems. Security updates > where the only change

Re: mdadm problem creating device

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 03:38:29PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 02:53:57PM -0500, S Scharf wrote: > > I installed a new disk and am trying to create a one disk raid 1 on it > > (and will add the second disk later) > > > > > but when I run mdadm I get the followng: > >

Re: gnucash in Sarge crashes when opening file; started after recent security updates

2008-01-06 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:59:29PM +0100, Tomasz Szpakowicz wrote: > Hello. > > I need help with gnucash 1.8.10 in Sarge. I have a gnucash file (written > with the same gnucash on the same system) containing one year of data. > And I can't open it. Gnucash says 'Segmentation fault'. you really ne

Re: Hacking the OLPC XO

2008-01-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 10:29:55PM -0500, phillinux wrote: > Did anyone here work on the OLPC XO project??? > > I'm a teacher who would be interested in adapting the XO for secondary > school students. I would need to get a lightweight version of open office > running on that machine. > > Is the

Re: Kernel issues due to identical network cards

2008-01-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 11:06:31PM +0100, David MAGNY wrote: > Hello, > > I am upgrading a firewall from Sarge to Etch. > > On this machine, I have 3 network cards. > > 2 networks cards are identical. It is PCI network > cards and it is SMC1233A-TX. > > On Sarge, everything worked well. > > Th

Re: DVD driver

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 05:08:14PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 4:09 PM, hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't think there *is* a DVD driver, per se. There's the UDF fs > > > driver, though. You might mean that. > > > > To be hornest, I am not clear how the DVD system works.

Re: character encoding

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:50:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:08:24PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > On Dec 31, 2007 1:41 PM, ChadDavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When I run 'ls' on a given directory, some of the file names show a > > > question > > > mark in

Re: "Waiting for root file system" problem

2008-01-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 06:24:07AM -0500, dave N wrote: > dave N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi: > > I've installed Etch r1 and the only real thing I've done to the system is > updated the system, though during the update it updated the kernel to the > same kernel that was installed during t

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:52:16PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > ... > >

Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 05:08:20PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Tuesday 01 January 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: ... > > > > Hardware has scarcity which software lacks. There's no economic > > reason to sell software. Programmers should sell their service since > > trying to sell the product is,

Re: cannot log in with gdm after lenny upgrade

2008-01-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:58:22AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:49:43 -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:58:03AM +, Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > was heard to say: > >> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session startup ... > >> Setting 1M th

Re: Where did 'locate' go?

2007-12-31 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 04:57:17PM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: > On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:07:51 + (UTC) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello, all: > > > > On a recently updated testing system, I went to use 'locate' to find > > something, and it's not found. Is my system somehow hosed or di

Re: [Wildly OT] Re: Galeon R.I.P?

2007-12-31 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: It's a Very Big Universe, and I'm not hubristic (is that a word?) enough to make such a claim. For the Jesus-followers out there, he put it this way for the know-it-alls, which agrees with Ron's take on matters: /"If you were blind," Jesus told them, "you wouldn't have sin.

Re: Iceweasel or Konqueror + Kdm/Xorg turned into a cpu hog?

2007-12-31 Thread Kent West
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Lesley Binks wrote: Hi I have etch installed, regularly updated and running the KDE desktop environment. Using either Konqueror or Iceweasel, I find that Xorg goes into overdrive when I access this page: http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/login - reporting 92% usage on an At

Re: [OT] RIP Netscape

2007-12-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 06:53:08AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140903-c,netscape/article.html yeah, it's kinda sad, but at the same time, my memory of Netscape is always kind of unpleasant. I remember struggling to get it to work properly and convince others t

Re: compatibility problems

2007-12-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 04:05:58PM -0800, Don Harwood wrote: ...snip confusing quoting... > > yes i am a total newbie to the linux world, the reason i chose debian is > because the cnc system is debian, after doing some minor research into it i > decided to keep it simple {yeah right} i will mak

Re: Vá : Using wdm how to pass "-- -logverbose 6" to startx?

2007-12-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 07:02:46PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: > 2007/12/28, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > WHat window manager do you want to use? > > I want to use Window Maker. > > > What is the output of (as root): > > > > upd

Re: Vá : Using wdm how to pass "-- -logverbose 6" to startx?

2007-12-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 05:05:30PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: > 2007/12/28, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Your Xorg.0.log looks fine to me. So what exactly happens when you > > type startx? maybe you don't have a window manager selected? How h

Re: How to start X as a user?

2007-12-28 Thread Kent West
Dan H wrote: back in the olden days I used to be able to log in on a text console and then use "startx" to start an X session. I just tried that (without X running of course) but was rebuffed with the message that I wasn't authorized to start X. How does this work (on etch) From http://linux

Re: Using wdm how to pass "-- -logverbose 6" to startx?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:09:09PM +0100, Paul Csanyi wrote: > 2007/12/27, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:18:34PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: > > > Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:49:41 -0800 keltezéssel Andrew Sackville-West azt > > >

Re: Using wdm how to pass "-- -logverbose 6" to startx?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:18:34PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: > Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:49:41 -0800 keltezéssel Andrew Sackville-West azt > írta: > > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 07:10:58PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: ... > >> I must to start X Window with: > >> startx -- -

Re: Aptitude installation

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 01:06:52PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:40:53 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 12/27/07, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This may or may not be related to your problem, but you would > > > probably be

Re: Using wdm how to pass "-- -logverbose 6" to startx?

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 07:10:58PM +, Paul Csanyi wrote: > Hello! > > My displaymanager is wdm on Debian Etch system. > > Because my X Window crashes frequently > (nvidia driver woth GeForce 7600 GT card and Intel Core 2 Duo CPU), > I must to investigate the reason. > > I must to start X W

Re: mkinitrd.yaird failed to create initrd image

2007-12-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 05:19:45PM +0100, Paul van Gelder wrote: > Hi, > > > I tried to install linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 and get this as output: > > Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-17) ... > > Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic > link /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-amd64/

Re: Seg faults on mplayer, xine, vlc, xmms and wine

2007-12-26 Thread Kent West
Rico Secada wrote: I am running testing with kernel: 2.6.22-3-686. For a couple of month I have experienced continuous segmentation faults with Mplayer, Xine, VLC and XMMS. I get segmentation fault every time I try to use them. Does it happen with a different user? Can you shut

Re: locked screen

2007-12-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 05:34:08PM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Wed December 26 2007, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > I've never seen this screen on the other login, and they are setup > > > identically ( by me). My screensaver is turned OFF, and it doesn't have a > > > password for the screensav

Re: JRE in Iceweasel

2007-12-25 Thread Kent West
Curt Howland wrote: After reinstalling everything that I can think of, I tried to use an IRC client supplied by a web site, a Java applet. It worked just fine in Iceweasel before the rebuild, but now it comes with "plug-in not found, Java JRE." I've put in every Java/JRE package that I find i

Re: Can't logout before command finished

2007-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 07:36:58AM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:44:00PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > On 2007-12-20 07:55:21 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > Is not "screen" another solu

Re: apt-get torture - deadlock libc6

2007-12-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 08:08:07PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:35:22PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > But now that the damage is done, I don't have much advice. Probably > > your best bet is to move up to sarge manually replacing pa

Re: apt-get torture - deadlock libc6

2007-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
putting this back on the list. please don't reply to me directly. you'll get much more help if everyone can see what's going on. On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 11:43:56AM -0800, epic winter wrote: > > Back in hell. sorry to hear that. > i thought that fixed it, but now it seems that the gcc/libc versi

Re: apt-get torture - deadlock libc6

2007-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 10:34:20AM -0800, epic winter wrote: > > Ok, but how do i get out of the deadlock? I can't use apt at all right now. probably take stable, testing and unstable out of your sources.list and apt* update would do it. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Can't logout before command finished

2007-12-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:55:16PM +0800, H.H. Ding wrote: > hi list > > I ssh to remote host, then run a program and put it to background, > then I try to logout, but bash paused and wait until the program > finished. How can I logout immeditaly? nohup perhaps? A signature.asc Description

Re: Can't logout before command finished

2007-12-20 Thread Kent West
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2007-12-20 15:55:16 +0800, H.H. Ding wrote: I ssh to remote host, then run a program and put it to background, then I try to logout, but bash paused and wait until the program finished. How can I logout immeditaly? The background program needs to close all

Re: apt-get install php4-mysql

2007-12-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 12:50:49PM -0800, Jeppe wrote: > Hi there, > > First of all, I´m new to Debian and especially the apt-thing. hi welcome, etc. DOn't worry, you'll soon be fully indoctrinated ;) > I was going to try to enable apache2 with mysql. I already have a > Postgres-DB but now for d

Re: I have a SSH connection and need GUI installed

2007-12-17 Thread Kent West
webjay wrote: I have X tools on my Mac. I also have "X11Forwarding yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config I have installed xnest. But I guess I need either Gnome or KDE? No, not necessary. On my Leopard Mac, I go into the HD, then /Applications/Utilities, and fire up X11. This opens an xterm. In

Re: I have a SSH connection and need GUI installed

2007-12-17 Thread Kent West
webjay wrote: I am on a MacBook Pro and can connect to my server in the basement via SSH. Can I install a GUI via SSH and later connect via VLC or the like? On the OS/X installer DVD is an X Tools option, that is not installed by default. (This is with pre-Leopard; I'm unsure about Leopard.

Re: imap and icedove

2007-12-16 Thread Kent West
Jerome BENOIT wrote: Since I updated my Lenny box, I have trouble with icedove: I can no more connect to the imap server. I turn on debug for courier-authdaemon and courier-imad: the authentifation seems Ok. Any idea ? Try connecting with another client and/or telnet to determine if the proble

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-14 Thread Kent West
David Brodbeck wrote: Didn't Microsoft sell a data wristwatch for a while that was programmed by rapidly flashing the screen? I remember thinking at the time that it was rather short-sighted to come out with a product that required the user to have a CRT monitor. There was such a watch, but

Re: FreeAgent USB HDD (update)

2007-12-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:01:54PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > On Nov 29, 2007 9:18 PM, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I rebooted and then once I went into the filesystem I saw that the > > system recognised it, but did not automount it. This is something that I > > have noticed in the last wh

Re: Latest kernel security update wont boot resolved

2007-12-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:54:49PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > The problem is operator (that's me) stupidity. > > I have an overloaded find so I can say find foo and have it mean > find . -name foo -print > > mkinitramfs uses find . | cpio to build the initrd.img > ooh, interesting. I wouldn't

Re: OT: clicky keyboards

2007-12-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 08:37:42AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:57:15 -0500 > "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Douglas, > > > Anybody remember the Timex/Sinclair 1000? It has a pure membrane > > AKA the Sinclair ZX-81, in the UK. First computer I ow

Re: Latest kernel security update wont boot

2007-12-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 04:22:10PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > On 12/13/2007 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> the command will be something like >> >> mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.18-version-arch -k 2.6.18-version-arch >> be sure to move the other one aside fi

Re: Latest kernel security update wont boot

2007-12-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:36:42PM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: >> Marc Auslander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> I am running etch on a Dell with ide drives, using LILO >>> >>> I just used aptitude to install the latest security update to the >>> 2.6.18 kernel, 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch5 >>> >>> The

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