Re: Debian stable - updates

On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 07:46:58 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Joe writes: > > When I'm sufficiently > > annoyed with the problem I'll do a reinstall but there are over 4000 > > packages... > > While I don't upgrade daily it's bad to let it get that far behind. I do upgrade pretty much daily. I mean

Re: Debian stable - updates

Joe writes: > When I'm sufficiently > annoyed with the problem I'll do a reinstall but there are over 4000 > packages... While I don't upgrade daily it's bad to let it get that far behind. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian stable - updates

On 2021-06-27 at 03:48, Francesco Florian wrote: > On Sa, 26 Jun 2021, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> [1] unless you're one of those still running dist-upgrade for every >> security update, just because `apt-get` doesn't install new >> packages by default. > > Actually, I'm one of those running on

Re: Debian stable - updates

On 27-06-2021 18:01, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 08:12:07 -0500 > John Hasler wrote: > >> Andrei writes: >> > Unstable is challenging when you rely on that system for any kind of >> > useful work, regardless if a movie night with friends or a big >> > presentation at work, as each and every

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 08:12:07 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > Unstable is challenging when you rely on that system for any kind of > > useful work, regardless if a movie night with friends or a big > > presentation at work, as each and every upgrade has the potential to > > break you

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Sa, 26 Jun 2021, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > [1] unless you're one of those still running dist-upgrade for every > security update, just because `apt-get` doesn't install new packages by > default. Actually, I'm one of those running on testing, since I believe it's stable enough for my workflow o

Re: Debian stable - updates

Andrei writes: > How do you determine the "safe and necessary"? I follow the security list and scan -dev for warning of such things as major transitions. I upgrade individual packages as needed (usually Firefox): this occasionally leads to a general upgrade. I pay attention to the output of "apt

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Sb, 26 iun 21, 08:12:07, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > Unstable is challenging when you rely on that system for any kind of > > useful work, regardless if a movie night with friends or a big > > presentation at work, as each and every upgrade has the potential to > > break your system

Re: Debian stable - updates

Andrei writes: > Unstable is challenging when you rely on that system for any kind of > useful work, regardless if a movie night with friends or a big > presentation at work, as each and every upgrade has the potential to > break your system in new and interesting ways. I've run Unstable on my des

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi and a very good day to all of you, 😁 thank you very much for the new input of yours. You're too kind. @T.J. Duchene: Thanks a lot for the warm welcome. That' s really nice. I enjoy it very much here. Your instruction to update policies used by Debian stable is very good; I understand it

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Vi, 25 iun 21, 15:50:56, steve wrote: > Le 25-06-2021, à 06:38:32 -0600, D. R. Evans a écrit : > > > For years I have run debian stable on my main desktop machine (the one I > > am using to type this e-mail). It has had fewer major issues than any > > other distribution I have tried. > > Some

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Vi, 25 iun 21, 15:02:51, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Christian wrote: > > Hi altogether, > > [...] > > > I quote: > > > [...] There is a tradeoff, though. The software in Debian Stable is > > usually fairly outdated. > > In fact, it's usually outdated w

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Vi, 25 iun 21, 20:44:51, Francesco Florian wrote: > > You may want to change all instances of 'buster' to 'stable', so that > you don't have to bother changing it whenever new version of debian is > released as stable. > This is, if you really want to track 'stable', i.e., automatically > sw

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Friday, June 25, 2021 7:19:34 AM CDT Christian wrote: > Hi altogether, > > as I´m a newcomer to Debian and coming from Lubuntu I searched for > information as far as the release model is concerned. > > I learned that there are three different releases: stable, testing, and > unstable. > > I k

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:18:06PM +0200, Christian wrote: > Hi Tomas, > > thank you so much for your reply. > > > Thing is: "stable" means [...]  Only bug fixes and security patches go in. > > Great! That is the most important aspect for me. > I really don't need the latest-and-greatest version

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 03:06:57PM +0200, Christian wrote: > Hi Doc Evans, > > thanks a lot for your reply. > > That´s great news indeed. > The fact that Debian stable is rock solid is a great asset in itself. So > together with security updates it will surely make for a fine production > system

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 08:44:51PM +0200, Francesco Florian wrote: > On Fr, 25 Jun 2021, Christian wrote: > > > I looked up  the respective file on my system and it looks like this: > > 1     # > > 2 > > 3     # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 > > xfce-CD Binary-1 2021

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 08:44:51PM +0200, Francesco Florian wrote: > You may want to change all instances of 'buster' to 'stable', so that you > don't have to bother changing it whenever new version of debian is released > as stable. STRONG disagree! You don't want that, because it means that

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fr, 25 Jun 2021, Christian wrote: > I looked up  the respective file on my system and it looks like this: > 1     # > 2 > 3     # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 > xfce-CD Binary-1 20210327-10:42]/ buster main > 4 > 5     #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi Greg, thank you very much for your help. It's highly appreciated. It's so good to have have some confirmation by such knowledgeable people like you. So for now I think I won't have to change anything as I'm currently running Debian stable in a virtual machine. Yet when setting it  up as a

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 06:11:17PM +0200, Christian wrote: > I see. So in case I want it I'd have to add "contrib" and "non-free" in line > 7 first. > > Perhaps I'm a bit slow to understand, but what about lines 8, 11, 14 and 15 > then? All these also contain just "main". Would they have to be alt

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi Greg, thank you so much for your very quick reply. > It's not necessary at this time. Good to know. I see. So in case I want it I'd have to add "contrib" and "non-free" in line 7 first. Perhaps I'm a bit slow to understand, but what about lines 8, 11, 14 and 15 then? All these also cont

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 05:55:18PM +0200, Christian wrote: > On https://www.debian.org/security/#keeping-secure under "Keeping your > Debian system secure" it says: > > "You can use apt to easily get the latest security updates. This requires a > line such as deb http://security.debian.org/debian-

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi again, so sorry to bother you kind people once more. It turns out I've got an additional question regarding  updates. On https://www.debian.org/security/#keeping-secure under "Keeping your Debian system secure" it says: "You can use apt to easily get the latest security updates. This re

Re: Debian stable - updates

Le 25-06-2021, à 06:38:32 -0600, D. R. Evans a écrit : For years I have run debian stable on my main desktop machine (the one I am using to type this e-mail). It has had fewer major issues than any other distribution I have tried. Some even say that Debian is becoming annoying for that very r

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi Didar, thanks for your opinion as well. Good to learn there are so many users satisfied with Debian stable. Many greetings. Rosika

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 06:38:32AM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > Christian wrote on 6/25/21 6:19 AM: > > > > > > Is Debian stable safe to use - I mean in the sense that it gets security > > updates for the installed packages? > > > > Yes, it does get security updates. It also gets non-security up

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi Tomas, thank you so much for your reply. > Thing is: "stable" means [...]  Only bug fixes and security patches go in. Great! That is the most important aspect for me. I really don't need the latest-and-greatest version of packages. All I do need is a stable and secure system. So Debian s

Re: Debian stable - updates

Hi Doc Evans, thanks a lot for your reply. That´s great news indeed. The fact that Debian stable is rock solid is a great asset in itself. So together with security updates it will surely make for a fine production system especially for older computers like my Lenovo H520e desktop. Thank you

Re: Debian stable - updates

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 02:19:34PM +0200, Christian wrote: > Hi altogether, [...] > I quote: > [...] There is a tradeoff, though. The software in Debian Stable is > usually fairly outdated. > In fact, it's usually outdated when the distribution first ships. > Now, that's not much of a problem fo

Re: Debian stable - updates

Christian wrote on 6/25/21 6:19 AM: Is Debian stable safe to use - I mean in the sense that it gets security updates for the installed packages? Yes, it does get security updates. It also gets non-security updates for some of the most popular packages. For years I have run debian stable o

Debian stable - updates

Hi altogether, as I´m a newcomer to Debian and coming from Lubuntu I searched for information as far as the release model is concerned. I learned that there are three different releases: stable, testing, and unstable. I know I´m not supposed to post any links here but for the sake of refer

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 04:04:29PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 3/23/21 12:31 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:40:01AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > > > I use Stretch for my daily driver laptop (Dell Latitude E6520) and UniFi > > > Controller VPS. ... > >

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On 3/23/21 12:31 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:40:01AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: I use Stretch for my daily driver laptop (Dell Latitude E6520) and UniFi Controller VPS. ... I need to migrate the daily driver to Buster, but Buster does not like the Optimus grap

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:40:01AM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 3/23/21 9:44 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 23 Mar 2021 at 07:52:52 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > > > On 2021-03-23 at 07:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > I think the request was really "Please tell us how to use th

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On 3/23/21 9:44 AM, David Wright wrote: On Tue 23 Mar 2021 at 07:52:52 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-03-23 at 07:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: I think the request was really "Please tell us how to use this buster-proposed-updates thing, which I've never heard of before." Actually I thought

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

our local mirror. > > Thank you for the response. > > Browsing: > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-proposed-updates/ > > Yes, I do see many *.changes files (one for each package and > architecture combination). > > But, that does not tell

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On Tue 23 Mar 2021 at 07:52:52 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-03-23 at 07:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > I think the request was really "Please tell us how to use this > > buster-proposed-updates thing, which I've never heard of before." Actually I thought David wanted to do what I did, w

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On 3/23/21 4:43 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:34:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 17:26:14 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: On 3/22/21 5:03 PM, Keith Wyatt wrote: As o[f] now it will include the following bug fixes. They can be found in "buster- pro

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

e.g. that proposed Debian Stable updates are available (for testing). Assuming that I start with a fresh install of: debian-10.8.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso How do I download and/or install the proposed updates? That is the URL I need. David

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On Ma, 23 mar 21, 07:52:52, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-03-23 at 07:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > I think the request was really "Please tell us how to use this > > buster-proposed-updates thing, which I've never heard of before." > > > > Here's a wiki page:

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On 2021-03-23 at 07:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I think the request was really "Please tell us how to use this > buster-proposed-updates thing, which I've never heard of before." > > Here's a wiki page: > However, I would not follow its advice litera

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:34:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 17:26:14 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > > On 3/22/21 5:03 PM, Keith Wyatt wrote: > > > > > As o[f] > > > now it will include the following bug fixes. They can be found in "buster- > > > proposed-updates", wh

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On Mon 22 Mar 2021 at 17:26:14 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 3/22/21 5:03 PM, Keith Wyatt wrote: > > > As o[f] > > now it will include the following bug fixes. They can be found in "buster- > > proposed-updates", which is carried by all official mirrors. > > Please provide a URL. Do you

Re: Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

On 3/22/21 5:03 PM, Keith Wyatt wrote: As o now it will include the following bug fixes. They can be found in "buster- proposed-updates", which is carried by all official mirrors. Please provide a URL. David

Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1

Debian Stable Updates Announcement SUA 197-1 https://www.debian.org/ debian-rele...@lists.debian.org Adam D. Barratt March 22nd, 2021

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

ere's an example squeeze-updates entry in the release notes. > That along with the statement that stable-updates replaces volatile, I > thought, was enough of a hint. > > Cheers, > Tom > Well after more digging I found a sample sources.list for a new Squeeze install in case any

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 09 feb 11, 20:13:06, Arthur Machlas wrote: >> SNIP >> would set them up properly. Doesn't make sense for a clean install of >> Debian 6 to put invalid repositories in your sources.list > > If this the final version of the installer ad

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

On Mi, 09 feb 11, 20:13:06, Arthur Machlas wrote: > > Thanks! I was getting error messages and hadn't gotten around to > looking into it. I didn't really read the release notes looking for > information about the sources list. I kind of assumed the installer > would set them up properly. Doesn't m

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

olatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main >>> deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main >> >>Yes it is. Specifically section 2.1.8. Stable-updates replaces the >>functionality previously provided by volatile. > > I think t

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

l, there's an example squeeze-updates entry in the release notes. > That along with the statement that stable-updates replaces volatile, I > thought, was enough of a hint. > I got the hint from the release notes, but I needed to check the archives of this list for instructions how

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

e statement that stable-updates replaces volatile, I thought, was enough of a hint. Cheers, Tom signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: stable-updates versus volatile

to >> "squeeze-updates" in the following lines? Or did you do something else? >> Sorry for the extra question, this is not documented in Release Notes. >> >> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main >> deb-src http://volatile.debi

stable-updates versus volatile

o something else? Sorry for the extra > question, this is not documented in Release Notes. > > deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main > deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main Yes it is. Specifically section 2.1.8. Stable-updat

Re: apt-move stable[/-]updates problem

> W M Brelsford wrote: > > >I've been using "apt-move update" to populate a local hierarchy for use > >by my other machines via nfs: > > > > deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable main contrib non-free > > deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable/u

Re: apt-move stable[/-]updates problem

W M Brelsford wrote: I've been using "apt-move update" to populate a local hierarchy for use by my other machines via nfs: deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable main contrib non-free deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable/updates main contrib non-free Since the sarge r

apt-move stable[/-]updates problem

I've been using "apt-move update" to populate a local hierarchy for use by my other machines via nfs: deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable main contrib non-free deb file:/n/di/var/debian stable/updates main contrib non-free Since the sarge release, however, the securi

Re: deb http://security.ebian.org/ stable updates

On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 02:23:34PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > I just tried it ththe the same line in my sources.list ie > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable updates [it works] > Maybe it was having a bad day when you tried it? Yeah, I was having a really bad day I guess. Now it

Re: deb http://security.ebian.org/ stable updates

On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 12:14:39AM +0200, Thomas Keusch wrote: > Hi! > I just tried to incorporate http://security.debian.org into my apt > sources.list once again - and it didn't work once again. Usually I don't reply to my own postings, but this was really a no-brainer which I don't want to bo

Re: deb http://security.ebian.org/ stable updates

Subject: deb http://security.ebian.org/ stable updates Date: Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 12:14:39AM +0200 In reply to:Thomas Keusch Quoting Thomas Keusch([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Hi! > > I just tried to incorporate http://security.debian.org into my apt > sources.list o

Re: deb http://security.ebian.org/ stable updates

* "Thomas" == Thomas Keusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thomas> dante:~ $ apt-get update Thomas> Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates Packages Thomas> Could not connect to security.debian.org (132.229.131.40). Looks like a network problem. Could you reach th

deb http://security.ebian.org/ stable updates

= dante:~ $ grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US deb http://security.debian.org/ stable updates dante:~ $ dante:~ $ apt-get update Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates P

Re: How to update stable with stable-updates

On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Gernot wrote: >When I try to update stable using dselect and adding stable-updates to >the distributions to get, dselect chooses m68-bin-files for the update >instead of i386-files (most of the times). > >What is the right way to use the stable-updates-di

How to update stable with stable-updates

When I try to update stable using dselect and adding stable-updates to the distributions to get, dselect chooses m68-bin-files for the update instead of i386-files (most of the times). What is the right way to use the stable-updates-distribution with dselect? Thanx, Gernot

stable-updates?

What's the plan for files in the stable-updates directory on ftp.debian.org? Will these eventually be moved into the hamm distribution? I understand they're bug fixes for stable but why are they in a separate directoy instead of just replacing whatever's buggy in hamm/stable? Thanks, Gary

Updating the system using dselect->dists/stable-updates?

Hi, I've just tried to update my Hamm system (using the ftp method in dselect) by appending "dists/stable-updates" to the list of distributions ("/dists/stable/main dists/stable/non-free dists/stable/contrib") to get. The result was that dselect also selected the m68k ver

apt-get to get stable-updates?

Hi, Can I use apt-get to go after the packages in the stable-updates directory at ftp.debian.org? If so, how? I could not find anything mentioned on the web pages or the apt docs. thanks, Stuart