The following is a quick report from an application we are working
on. Hopefully this will tell us how effective our kill list is
and what addresses can be removed after X amount of time. It
should be obvious as to what addresses are not being used. We will
post an update once more time goes
This will be great!
Thanks Tom, for your great work.
Eddie Cornejo, Sys Admin
Tom Rowe Associates
956-412-6600 Ext.10
Toll Free USA 888-866-7693
Toll Free Canada 877-866-7693
http://www.tomrowe.com
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WEIGHTA10 ALERT
WEIGHT10HOLD
I want to alert and hold the message, but it does not seem that this
combination of actions works together.
I know the alert portion is working, because I can trigger it with rsp
set off WEIGHTA10
Any thoughts on how I can accomplish what I want?
I am sure most people use the weighting system. For the most part you
have certain weights were you know that 99% of the mail triggering that
weight is spam.
Do you BOUNCE, HOLD, Or DELETE? Right now I am using HOLD, but was
considering switching that to BOUNCE. There are defiantly some
Hopefully, in the future you might be able to build in something along
the lines of that. My thought was to quarantine the suspected spam and
send an alert back to the user. If by some chance it was legitimate
mail then I would be able to add it back to the queue.
We have had requests for a
If you are 99% certain that an E-mail is spam, the BOUNCE action usually
has a major con: 99% of spammers use a fake return address, so you will
be
doing a huge amount of work (re-trying tons of bounce messages, and
sending
lots of bounces to innocent people) for a small benefit (alerting
Here is an update for the kill list for
08/02/02 - Even though each address is
checked, we strongly suggest you use it
at your own risk. The entire list can
be downloaded from the following URL:
http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt
Regards,
Tom
Image`fx
One of the neat things about Declude is it doesn't let the idiot on the
other end know you deleted his spam. If he did, there are those who sit
up until the wee hours trying to get around a program just cuz he can.
I personally have a huge myfilter.txt file (over 1800 entries) and I
have
Hi All,
New to this list, Imail and Declude.
I purchased the Pro version, and aside from entering my code, I left
config files as-is. What is the recommended strategy to start using the
product effectively?
Thanks,
George
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Welcome to the list, George!
Wow, that really is an open-ended question. It really depends on how
aggressive you want to be with your spam filtering. After reading over the
manual that is maintained on the Declude download site, if you can give us
an idea of what you would like to accomplish
I used bounce but got so many return bounces due to the poor
bouncing option Imail offer Declude.
We block a good 3-5k messages each day out of 8-10k total.
So many spammers use fake addresses or get their service
disconnected/discontinued or simply get their mailboxes full that
there will be a
Well, first, I see that the log file is supposed to be in spool folder.
I have been running since 9 AM this morning, and I don't see the log
file. I did install properly.
The first thing to check is that the LOGFILE line in the
\IMail\Declude\global.cfg file wasn't changed to point to an
Thanks Scott,
The -diag did the trick. I found my files had _ instead of . in the
names.
So back to my question - is the stock config too aggressive - should I
turn off any tests to start?
Thanks!
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Here is the latest report as promised, take a look at the ID's
that caught the most. Please don't rely on these ID's yet
because we are still trying different variations to figure out
what would be the best way to implement the usage of them
without having to do any major coding. All ideas and
I used bounce but got so many return bounces due to the poor
bouncing option Imail offer Declude.
FWIW, the reason that the double bounces occur isn't because of a poor
bouncing option -- it's because the bounce can't occur during the SMTP
transaction (IMail doesn't allow programs to
Hi Scott:
FWIW, the reason that the double bounces occur isn't because of a poor
bouncing option
well - the ONE pending enhancement is that we can use a BETTER mailer than
imail1.exe that would permit us to send from - as it should be.
THEN we would not SEE any bounces.
IMail doesn't
Hi Tom,
Newbie question - this kill list is used in Imail program - not Declude?
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Welcome.
John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA 92835
www.reliancesoft.com
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Newbie question - this kill list is used in Imail program - not Declude?
No this kill list is for Declude specifically, however, with proper
manipulation it can be used with Imail's kill list.
Regards,
Tom
Image`fx
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FWIW, the reason that the double bounces occur isn't because of a poor
bouncing option
well - the ONE pending enhancement is that we can use a BETTER mailer than
imail1.exe that would permit us to send from - as it should be.
THEN we would not SEE any bounces.
Good point, I hadn't taken
Sorry for the newbie questions, I will read the manual again tonight ;-)
Is the stock configuration too aggressive - should I turn off any
tests to start? I am seeing a lot of REVERSE DNS errors and wonder how
many legitimate messages would be blocked?
Thanks!
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It really depends on what action you are taking on flagged messages. I
think the default is hold, if I remember correctly. With that, you can
simply review the held messages to see if there are any legitimate messages,
and if so, you can move them back into the IMail spool for delivery.
To
Until I or others have time to give a detailed response, you should not
b bounce or delete for now.
John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA 92835
www.reliancesoft.com
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Oh, and I forgot to mention another cool tool that another Tom has made
available to the Declude JunkMail user community (those Tom's are great to
have on distribution list, aren't they) called Delog, which will parse
your JunkMail logs and generate a nicely formatted report of how each of
your
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