Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Razor

2006-07-20 Thread Sanford Whiteman
> Do you need SA or something similar to invoke Razor or does it come > into play more directly? As I was mentioning in my exchange with Bill, the Razor client portion is distributed as a few Perl apps (separate ones for checking, reporting, whitelisting, etc.) with numerous supporting

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread bill.maillists
--Raised Hand-- -- Original Message -- From: "Gary Steiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:20:56 -0400 >Basically you are telling me to ignore the Add Commtouch part of your web page >that sh

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Responding to 2 posts. > When Decludeproc is restart the list of IP's maintained my hijack are reset. I thought the purpose of the file was to retain IPs even when Decludeproc was restarted or stopped and then started. If not, I would like to suggest this. > The file Console.txt seems to be wri

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Darin Cox
But from an accounting perspective, no revenue is directly generated by them. Thus, no revenue to share from a cost center. So how much revenue do you attach to your electric bill? There are a million subjective ways to attach revenue to cost, and every business will have different nuances in th

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread John Doyle
Check the archives for an old solution for hold notification. There is a vbs script that will do what your looking for. I have scheduled every 15 min. If there are any files in hold2, it emails me. I use something similar for the outgoing queue in case of a backup. The issue of outgoing mail has g

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Imail

2006-07-20 Thread Mark Smith
I know this belongs on the IMAIL forum but I'm not subscribed there -- apologies in advance. Does anyone know of a way to globally disable the information manager so I can prevent users from setting up auto-responders? Thx --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsub

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread Mike N
The file Console.txt seems to be write-only; it is useful for finding out what's going on, but I don't think it's possible to edit and have DecludeProc reread it unless it is just not documented some how. [Console.txt is displayed by the WebConfiguration GUI] - Original Message - Fr

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread tical
Also it would be nice for it to optionally send an email to the postmaster (or whoever) when hold1 level reached and especially when hold2 level reached. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:49 PM To

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread David Barker
When Decludeproc is restart the list of IP's maintained my hijack are reset. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T (Lists) Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declu

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Kevin Bilbee
A book on accounting is not necessary. I am very familiar with cost centers. It is a fact that removing cost centers can cost a business revenue. So if a small ISP removes spam filtering from their offerings then their customers that want a one stop shop will go elsewhere. It is a balancing act

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Mike, on problem 2, have you verified this? Decludeproc does indeed create a file in the Imail\Declude directory for use with Hijack. As for clearing an IP, I wonder if editing that file by removing the IP would clear it. Declude? John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Origi

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread David Barker
Mike, The operation of Hijack is under review, thank you for your suggestions. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike N Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:46 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkM

[Declude.JunkMail] Hijack: Blocklist feature request

2006-07-20 Thread Mike N
Product: Declude Security Suite 4.x Function: Hijack Hijack is critical to ISPs today because viruses can show up at any time and get your server on a blacklist before you can detect and react. Problem #1 - After a customer has cleaned out their PC and removed the virus, there must be a me

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Status

2006-07-20 Thread Chuck Schick
Here is what I want to see in the spam filtering solution. 1) The ability to automatically create a spam/junkmail folder at the user level whenever a newuser is created. 2) The ability to route items marked as spam to that folder at the user level. 3) The ability to delete items from the spam f

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Harry Vanderzand
Title: Message This has been a great thread to follow and I just want to add my two cents worth.   At the moment the whole issue of spam filtering is quite complex.  Declude's configuration requires constant tweaking it seams. That translates into labour.   If Declude can somehow manage to re

[Declude.JunkMail] Razor

2006-07-20 Thread John Shacklett
I'd like to break the flow of the current discussion and circle back a number of posts to ask a question. I'm not familiar with either Razor or Cloudmark and Bill's mention of that service caught me unprepared. How does Razor fit into your analysis? Do you need SA or something similar to invoke Ra

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Marc Catuogno
Well then if your profit is negative and they wish to share in it, then they owe you money right?? : ) Marc -- Original Message -- From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:39:52 -0400 >Messa

[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Status

2006-07-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message Hi,   Let me make a few observations:   - if it wasn't for the discussion on business policy, this list would not be busy at all. In fact, I note that I seldom see any new technical issues being discussed.   - I understand that people from either side of the fence have variou

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Don Brown
Revenue sharing is a sales ploy and for all practical purposes doesn't really exist in the accounting world. For instance, if we pay a royalty or a commission on a sale, that payment goes into expenses on the P&L statement. I guess you could say that all expenses share revenue, assuming there are

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Commtouch, etc

2006-07-20 Thread Don Brown
Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 2:01:41 PM, R. Scott Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Contrary to your comments on the use of this forum, it has always RSP> been for all things Declude when Scott >> was the sole player he never complained about the conversation RSP> threads. Positive or negative.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Darin Cox
Title: Message  While customers are referred to us for our spam/virus filtering capabilities, we do operate it as a cost center, as the labor and other expenses involved are slightly higher than the additional revenue generated from them. Darin.     - Original Message - From: Glenn \

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Darin Cox
Kevin, It would probably help for you to take a course or read a book on business accounting. There are cost centers, and revenue-generating centers. Sometimes it may be a judgement call as to where one item goes, as in spam filtering, but it is the business's call as to how they structure their

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude SPF Record

2006-07-20 Thread Darin Cox
No action should be taken on SoftFail, so this record is fine. Hard fail is the only result that should be taken action on currently, and the only one that really protects from abuse by spammers. However, I would advise making sure all sending IPs are listed to avoid confusion. Darin. - Or

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread Robert Grosshandler
Hi We're not a service provider (but I love and value the fact that all of you are!) Rob > >What I find particularly amusing is the line "Restrictions apply to service providers." If there is anyone >subscribed to this mailing list who is not a service provider, please raise your hand. ---

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 4.3

2006-07-20 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
I believe the explanation that everyone is looking for with this "revenue sharing" piece is there is a difference between revenue boosting, and revenue saving. With all the competition from the major players in our market today, we constantly have to integrate new services at no additional price i

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CommTouch, etc

2006-07-20 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Here are my observations/thoughts/conclusions/3 1/2 cents: (When I say Declude, I am talking about the company as a whole.) 1. David Barker is in the position of being in the middle of all of this. As such, nothing should be directed at David directly personally. He is doing the best he can with w