Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

Italo Vignoli wrote on 13-01-16 16:24: > On 13/01/16 16:07, Cor Nouws wrote: > Yes, the toggle icon is off by default, as described in the release > notes Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that there is a icon Toggle Tab Bar Visibility alongside the same entry in menu View. > (where I discovered the e

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

V Stuart Foote wrote on 13-01-16 21:39: > None the less, the developer who implemented the code got to decide based on > input in IRC, design meetings, gerrit feedback, and related issues filed in > BZ (see tdf#87672 > for example).

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

On 13/01/16 21:39, V Stuart Foote wrote: >>From your apparent shock that something changed, should we assume that you > had not taken a recent build of master nor one of the 5.1.0 beta releases > out for a test? And only now got around to seeing what is new? Don't be silly, please. I have 5 compu

Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Mode Toolbar

On 14/01/16 09:27, Cor Nouws wrote: > So I do agree that the new split icon makes it more likely that someone > takes a look at master pages. I'm not convinced that it introduces "new > great dangers for corporate use". Cor, it depends from the average skill set of the users. If they edit the ma

AW: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

May I suggest that we show the Tab bar by default in for now and think about further improvements in the next releases? I know the Tab bar is not ideal, but neither is the mode selector drop down. I understand Italo that a quick switch between normal and slide sorter mode is necessary for power

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Le 13/01/2016 14:35, V Stuart Foote a écrit : [...] When refactored it was provided with a simple View menu toggle "Modes Tab Bar" so "power users", or the intransigent, can enable or disable it as desired--but no longer consuming the vertical space by default. Reasonable UI and UX--nothing is

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

On 14/01/16 10:20, Michel RENON wrote: > Now that problem is starting to be fixed, I agree with Italo that it's > incomplete : there is a problem of discoverability of the new 'Mode' > button, it's lost in the toolbar. > So I just made a proposal based on current master version : > https://wiki.do

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

On 14/01/16 10:20, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote: > If you are ok with that, I'll prepare a patch to show the tab bar by default. Sorry, it's not "me" being OK with the solution, "users" should be OK with the solution (and users have not been asked at all: the fact that is all documented on GitHub or in

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Le 14/01/2016 10:48, Italo Vignoli a écrit : > On 14/01/16 10:20, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote: > >> If you are ok with that, I'll prepare a patch to show the tab bar by default. > > Sorry, it's not "me" being OK with the solution, "users" should be OK > with the solution (and users have not been asked

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

On 14/01/16 10:59, Sophie wrote: > When working on a slide desk last week, I didn't found it difficult to > switch in the View menu, what annoy me is that the choice is not retained. I cannot consider myself as a normal user, so the fact that I am able to switch without issues (once I have found

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Hi Italo, all Le 14/01/2016 11:08, Italo Vignoli a écrit : > On 14/01/16 10:59, Sophie wrote: > >> When working on a slide desk last week, I didn't found it difficult to >> switch in the View menu, what annoy me is that the choice is not retained. > > I cannot consider myself as a normal user, so

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Le 14/01/2016 10:48, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 14/01/16 10:20, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote: > If you are ok with that, I'll prepare a patch to show the tab bar by default. Sorry, it's not "me" being OK with the solution, "users" should be OK with the solution (and users have not been asked at all:

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Le 14/01/2016 10:59, Sophie a écrit : Le 14/01/2016 10:48, Italo Vignoli a écrit : > On 14/01/16 10:20, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote: > >> If you are ok with that, I'll prepare a patch to show the tab bar by default. > > Sorry, it's not "me" being OK with the solution, "users" should be OK > with the s

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

On Thursday, 14 January 2016 10:59:06 CET Sophie wrote: > Would it be possible to discuss this during the next meeting? Good idea. I tried to summarize the discussion in the minutes [1]. Looking forward tomorrow 1:00pm UTC (14:00 GMT). [1] http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/design -- To unsubsc

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Le 13/01/2016 14:35, V Stuart Foote a écrit : [...] When refactored it was provided with a simple View menu toggle "Modes Tab Bar" so "power users", or the intransigent, can enable or disable it as desired--but no longer consuming the vertical space by default. Reasonable UI and UX--nothing is

[libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Takeshi Abe wrote > ... about advantage of Modes Tab Bar. > IMHO it is worth the cost of vertical space. > Although the icon Display Mode is beautiful, changing the mode through > Display Mode requires 3 mouse motions (a click, small move, and another > click). OK, and equally a reasonable action

[libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Michel RENON-2 wrote > ... > [resent to the ml] > Currently, some design changes are merged asap in master, just because > the code is ok. > Then during alpha or beta, some user feedback is coming, but it's > already too late to make changes in code... > > > Why not working on those changes in

[libreoffice-design] Icons for new commands insert column/row before/after for theme Galaxy

Hi all, I have made new icons for the theme Galaxy. They are attached to bug 97116. Please have a look, which set you like more. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubs

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

On Thursday, 14 January 2016 11:32:59 CET Michel RENON wrote: > You said very important things ! > That's the core problem : currently, there is no user feedback. > > The design team is very motivated to create good UI, but we (as I > participated in the design team) have the "ivory tower" syndrom

Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Le 14/01/2016 15:26, V Stuart Foote a écrit : Michel RENON-2 wrote ... [resent to the ml] Currently, some design changes are merged asap in master, just because the code is ok. Then during alpha or beta, some user feedback is coming, but it's already too late to make changes in code... Why not

[libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Mode Toolbar

Michel RENON-2 wrote >> Are there hicups--design, UI and UX--absolutely! That keeps it fun for >> the >> developers. >> > > Sorry, I can't agree : > as a developer and designer, my focus is users. > And the only way for me to have fun is to have for every release : > - all problems solved / no reg