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>
> Is there a way to tweak the os300 build so that it brings up the
> Libertas device just as eth0 (and doesn't enable the 802.11s features
> in the firmware)?
was there a way to do that in 802?
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f the session. i.e., in olpc-session, do:
touch /var/run/powerd-inhibit-suspend/$$
there's no need to clean up, so the exec at the end of
olpc-session isn't a problem.
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v/ttyACM0 we see that the its access permission is uucp
> > while
> > the group of our activity is olpc.
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> > Using chmod o=rw /dev/ttyACM0 solves the problem.
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thout a lot of actual
discovery. :-) i think there are several issues, at least a
couple of which have to do with races between suspend/resume and
other driver activity. (e.g. #10176)
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> > tiago wrote:
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> > > Will you be keeping that arrow key arrangement or is it still a
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some information on what was going on before the hang.
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> > Might also be worth running memtest from OFW as well, just to exclude
> > certain other causes.
>
> Ran memtest (from 30m up as Richard suggested), passed, no errors.
>
> I also took ou
n?
it would have to run our kernel -- or, at least, a rebuilt
ubuntu kernel that included our drivers.
a lot of work was done for ubuntu on XO-1. much of that work might be
applicable as well. i don't have a link handy, i'm afraid.
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so, what's the sequence for repeating? once you clear the problem,
how do you make it happen again?
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> good catch, good call. commit 8815ea29a9bcbab2a3c7fbc28987cac67c2c41d0
> is a revert for 6d77444aca298b43a88086be446f943cd0442ef7, and is present
> in the testing branch (i.e., XO-1 802 and earlier), but not in our
> current 2.6.31
atch, good call. commit 8815ea29a9bcbab2a3c7fbc28987cac67c2c41d0
is a revert for 6d77444aca298b43a88086be446f943cd0442ef7, and is present
in the testing branch (i.e., XO-1 802 and earlier), but not in our
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ter releases (0.88 on F11) linked to from here:
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(but they're not "official", nor signed.)
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that manifests itself during s/r. i'm hoping to start looking at it
seriously soon. as i recall, reproducing it isn't an issue.
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process goes away.
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> Thomas
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> Objet : Re: Sound troubles
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> thomas wrote:
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de examples pointed to in the
last comment on #10168 -- i.e., by handling alsa's -ESTRPIPE
error condition properly.
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> Both the iptables and ip6tables sysvinit services are disabled in
> osXXXpy.
a bit off-topic, but just fyi -- i know you have power management
disabled, but when enabled, powerd wants to use iptables to do
network activity tracking.
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3. Change "sugar" to "gnome"
> > 4. Save and reboot
> >
> > Non-shell-users: Note the period at the start of .olpc-active-desktop.
>
> Interesting. There is no such file on my XO-1.5 (nor on any XO-1).
>
> Is that because I normally
es it affect the output of iwconfig. i don't actually know what
it really does do.
(annoyingly, unchecking the applet's "Enable Networking" disables
networking in a way that i can't undo. oh -- restarting gnome
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regular basis to their XO-1.5 ?
to be clear, the mechanism he was using wasn't via NM, but via
the sugar network control panel "Radio" checkbox. (that
checkbox is directly hooked up to the shell command "rfkill
un/block wifi".)
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le-suspend -- the system will
suspend after 15 seconds of inactivity. because of wireless
bugs, it may not wake up correctly, and the system will lock up.
this doesn't match up with your USB experience, but i don't think
i've ever tried a USB keyboard aft
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erring specifically to the 1.5's current lack of wake-on-arp
(thank you for making me realize there's no specific bug open for
this issue -- though it's buried in #9535), and also to bug #9960,
which describes a fairly serious bug in our wake-on-wlan behavior.
>
> I don'
suspicious in terms of unwanted suspends during both video
and audio playback that need to be looked into. but the biggest
problem area in terms of suspending and not coming back is the
network, and without "wake-on-precisely-what-i'm-waiting-for",
that's problema
ning. so it's hard to tell a real disconnected from
a "transient" disconnected.
i think the right solution, at least until we understand the root
cause of #9854, is simply to inhibit idle suspend for a full 60
seconds after waking from led or power button sleep. this change
wil
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> reliable idle-suspend system, IMO)
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> > > 2. The machine suspends frequently while it is loading a web page, and
> > > does not wake up, meaning that the web page doesn't finish loading
> > > until you realise what's ha
timeout from 15 seconds to 15 minutes. I managed to
> persuade them not to do this until we've actually seen how it holds up
> in the hands of actual users (children) but in the mean time they will
> be increasing that timeout to 60 seconds in order to soften the blow.
&
;
> The heatspreader I can hack with a heatpipe and some coolers, I'm going to
> do it anyway since it is already going to 85ºC in load. The speed is of some
> use to me most of the time, I'm just worried that the VRM can't handle the
> extra current.
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i wrote:
> expected. can you make one of your ogg samples available? feel free
> to attach it to a bug against powerd.
never mind -- i found it in one of your other bugs. (and it seems
to take even more cpu than my sample.)
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st, as used by olpc-update, and
also unused (unneeded) patches against the Distance activity attached to:
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thanks sascha! these look good. i'll apply soon.
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> I've revised and split up the patch.
>
> Changes:
> - calculate CHARGE_FULL_DESIGN based on technology and
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'search'. Should the 'frame' function be assigned to the F5
> >>>> key, since on external keyboards the F5 key might be easier to locate ?
> >>>>
> >>>> mikus
> >>>>
> >>>> ________
n use case... probably not but I don't do deployments :|
yes, i agree. unlike F1-F4, the F9-F12 keys are captured and don't
produce their traditional keycodes. we need to do something about that.
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> could all be a single key, because they are never used together. If
> the keyboard controller would turn altgr+left into Home (etc.), there
> should be no regression of functionality, even under windows.
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> > tiago wrote:
> > > I must ask, what's the default behavior of function keys in the new
> > layout?
> > > Fn changes them to F keys, or are they F keys without Fn pressed?
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a couple of
weeks ago. the changes between the two releases aren't
major, but it would probably be best if richard's q3a36c.rom
stayed north of the equator until we release a 'd' or a 37.
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> --- On Mon, 4/26/10, Paul Fox wrote:
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> > From: Paul Fox
> > Subject: Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 121
> > To: "Martin Langhoff"
> > Cc: "Devel" , "Fedora OLPC"
> , "Tiago Marques"
ernel change happened a release or
two ago. the needed change is a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d, which
will come in with a new olpc-utils.
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stephen john smoogen wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Fox wrote:
> > stephen john smoogen wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
> > > > I usually operate my XO with an external USB trackball, and have no
> >
hpads, which is what mikus
was using. i think this is the first report of serious erratic
operation on an XO-1.5. :-/
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l pentablet mode. but i've just
booted an os13 machine, and for some reason the control for that
mode isn't present, which confuses me -- i need to investigate
why it isn't in that kernel. in any case, i doubt you'll like
it, but you never know. it requires very firm pressur
eemed reasonable since the _only_ downside of not
doing so was the tap-to-click issue. given the huge problems
we'd been having (and still have!) with the previous touchpad, i
think tap-to-click seemed very minor by comparison.
in any case, i guess
by default. correct?
(i know that i myself find it annoying. the XO is annoying
enough to type on, without having my windows flip out from under
me because i have careless thumbs.)
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yioryos wrote:
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>
> --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Paul Fox wrote:
>
> > From: Paul Fox
> > Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: F11 for the XO-1 build 140py released
> > To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis"
> > Cc: "OLPC Devel" , "Fedora OLPC List&qu
ad it with os129py
> (not
> with os140py yet) but I considered it a consequence of my broken camera.
> Maybe
> not then.
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modifying my own kernel is far lower than for modifying my
browser, though the stakes are higher, of course. ;-) the
barrier to entry for modifying applications written in a
scripting language are lower still, and i'm more likely to do so,
or, at least, to examine the code to see why s
ependencies don't get created automatically. it must be due
to something in your spec file, no?
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ame written in flash, they can't. it's
really as simple as that.
whether one agrees with the notion that this is important will vary,
of course.
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> wrote:
...
> > interfaces and binding data to them, has an open-source free-to-use (from
> > Adobe) compiler, has a free-open-source IDE (FlashDevelop) from a
> > community,
does this run on the XO?
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it's useable, but still too small. and it lacks a right-hand shift key.
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> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:42:53AM -0400, Paul Fox wrote:
> > was it logically necessary to force the disconnect?
>
> It was more of a side-effect of removing all the connection settings
> from the user settings object, and cascading that change through to
try other scenarios, such as whether there is
> any impact on wired networking,
>
> I. report success or failure to the tickets or the mailing list or me.
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iffs and trace logs if you
> think it may help the issue at hand)
>
> >
> > paul
> >
> >
> > > in DIM=180, BLANK=480, SLEEP=600. No huge power
> > savings but
> > > at least the build is usable.
> > >
> >
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well as powerd.trace. (enable powerd tracing
with "sudo powerd-config =trace-on".)
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> in DIM=180, BLANK=480, SLEEP=600. No huge power savings but
> at least the build is usable.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Paul Fox wrote:
>
> > From: Paul Fox
don't know.
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when i reply to my own posts, my mailer screws up. resending
with proper headers...
(only new info: i've filed #10090)
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i wrote:
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> From:Paul Fox
> Subject: Re: powerd
i wrote:
> mathieu wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox wrote:
> > > steven m. parrish wrote:
> > > Â > OS13 is now available for testing.
> >
> > I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
&g
daniel wrote:
> On 27 March 2010 09:42, Paul Fox wrote:
> > in any case, all of this points at having separate default
> > configurations for powerd on XO-1 and XO-1.5. i guess this should be
> > handled by the rpm install -- but i'm not sure how. (help
> >
mathieu wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox wrote:
> > steven m. parrish wrote:
> > Â > OS13 is now available for testing.
>
> I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
> do anything, the screen dims, and everything
ts at having separate default
configurations for powerd on XO-1 and XO-1.5. i guess this should be
handled by the rpm install -- but i'm not sure how. (help
appreciated.)
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> > - if the screen is dark, the power button will just wake up the
> >laptop
>
> Please define "dark". Is "dark" different from "dim" ?
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just wake up the
laptop (or power it up, of course, if it was off).
the switch from option 'a' to 'b', i.e., allowing keypresses to wake
the laptop from a dark-screen idle-suspend, should have had no effect
on this behavior.
are you seeing something else?
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is "awake" (then the user normally wants it
> to go into sleep), versus pushing the power button when the system is
> "not awake" (then the user normally wants it to come out of sleep).
>
> Since "going beyond s
red down
> completely. Please - make sure that it takes a multi-second duration of
> the power button to perform a *complete* shutdown.
no, definitely not. training users to hold down power buttons
is/was a huge mistake, since getting in the habit is a little
like parking your car by letting i
isaac wrote:
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> > are you comfortable having two
> > laptop states:
> > - dark screen wakeable from keyboard
> > - dark screen _not_ wakeable from keyboard
> > that are visually indistinguishabl
- dark screen wakeable from keyboard
- dark screen _not_ wakeable from keyboard
that are visually indistinguishable? is it worth adding yet
another LED blink behavior to differentiate these states?
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> manage to switch you are safe. However, is still a breaker
> for me, given that is generated by a gnome panel option.
hi yioryos -- perhaps you could file a trac ticket? there is a
growing collection of gnome-re
of the battery
available (though hopefully they won't be needed right away). in
the meantime, the wiki page should suggest searching for "ml1220
legs" or "ml1220 pins".
here's an example of a suitable replacement:
http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/602-25682-4052
er and not as root.
well, it's a system service. but perhaps something can be done.
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g?
>
> - if on battery, the laptop will auto-shutdown after its been
> asleep for 1 hour. if plugged in, it will sleep forever.
>
>
> paul
> [1] http://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/pleaseconfirm.png (it looks a lot
> better centered on the XO screen)
&
ttp://dev.laptop.org/~pgf/pleaseconfirm.png (it looks a lot
better centered on the XO screen)
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from 10.0.0.164: icmp_seq=104 ttl=64 time=2.27 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.164: icmp_seq=105 ttl=64 time=2.20 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.164: icmp_seq=106 ttl=64 time=2.27 ms
> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.164: icmp_seq=107 ttl=64 time=2.19 ms
>
> (at this point the power LED
e power light flicker/go out at about
that time? you could try disabling power management ("touch
/var/powerd-inhibit-suspend/1" is one way) and see if it keeps
happening. (i'll be surprised if that's it, but...)
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martin wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Paul Fox wrote:
> > note to others: mikus is describing non-default behavior. the
> > default behavior is for the CPU to suspend after about 15 seconds
> > of inactivity.
>
> And I assume powerd should play nice
tes later, the screen will be blanked, and the
system will sleep. these are the settings that we'd most like
testing with. feedback on the durations of the timers themselves
would also be interesting, though finding bugs is moreso.
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hen all that
stopping at the next reboot to check the resulting banner
accomplishes is double-checking that he flashed the right file.
(not that there's no value in that, but it's not going to catch a
h/w or s/w programming error.)
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ew times about having an rpm with
> additional kernel modules. Is there a wishlist anywhere?
>
> I want to case a vote for the sisusbvga.ko -- to be used and abused as
> outlined here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adding_USB_SVGA
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system that, when it boots, resizes the
> root filesystem every time to try to fill up the entire drive
> it's on, fills me with horror.
:-) well, that was certainly never my intention.
> I prefer to partition my disks myself, thank you.
i take your point, and martin'
martin wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Paul Fox wrote:
> > martin -- can you remind me of the use case for this flag?
>
> "I've right-sized my OS image and would like to have one less moving thing".
>
> Deployment teams can probably just set
flag is set.
i'd say that if they're that close to filling the disk, the
filesystem size should be made larger at build time. the only
reason not to do that is if the target disk is very small, and if
it's that small, then they've added too many bundles.
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>
> Again, or just inhibiting suspend in the first place if the current
> network transfer rate is significant. We shouldn't need this wakeup,
> though; the module already knows how to wake us up when there are new
> packets for us, and should already be doin
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uction (near the time that the new touchpad was introduced?),
but i don't know that anything specific changed for 1.5.
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martin wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Paul Fox wrote:
> > i.e., if power fails, will
> > the ext3 journal fix things as well as it ever does?
>
> That would be my question... time to... yank that powercord!
i've only tried it once. when the machine r
bert wrote:
> On 05.03.2010, at 07:31, Paul Fox wrote:
> >
> > credit where credit is due -- i followed the instructions (i feel
> > like i should be writing "destructions") at instructables.com:
> >
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Installi
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