On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:00:15PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
I'm reluctant to do this, though, because it feels like an ugly hack.
The right solution would be for the suspend system to recognize
that Stopwatch has a timer set to expire in 100 ms, and postpone
suspend.
UPower has
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Sameer Verma wrote:
>
>> I noticed something interesting with he stopwatch activity on the XO
>> 1.5 C2 with build 120. When the XO goes into suspend, the clock stops
>> display, but upon
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Sameer Verma wrote:
> I noticed something interesting with he stopwatch activity on the XO
> 1.5 C2 with build 120. When the XO goes into suspend, the clock stops
> display, but upon resume, will show actual time elapsed (clock keep
> counting). "Mark"
I noticed something interesting with he stopwatch activity on the XO
1.5 C2 with build 120. When the XO goes into suspend, the clock stops
display, but upon resume, will show actual time elapsed (clock keep
counting). "Mark" also works correctly, displaying the time when the
"
On Nov 14, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> 1. Project name : StopWatch
> 3. One-line description : The most ludicrously awesome
> stopwatch ever
Done. Your tree is here:
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/stopwatch
Your usernames are lukego and surendra
On Nov 17, 2007, at 0:21 , Mitch Bradley wrote:
>
> This is a "Color of the Bikeshed" issue.
>
> Give it a rest.
The clock discussion is, you're right.
Reminding everyone that we set out to create an environment for kids
to explore and construct is not. It's perplexing how few developers
see
This is a "Color of the Bikeshed" issue.
Give it a rest.
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> -1 to the idea that we should deliberately leave out features in order to
> encourage kids to program. O, ye of little
> faith.
I don't see anybody said this, but yes, that would be bad. The
environment should come rich set of tools/widgets etc. that make the
environment "rich". Several clo
>
>
> What I was suggesting though is
> that there should *not* be a clock in the Sugar frame visible all the
> time.
+1 to including hooks to Sugar for frame-resident mini-apps.
+1 to making the frame clock optional (turned on from the clock activity -
another reason to keep it an activity) an
On Nov 16, 2007, at 21:13 , nick knouf wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>> Well, it seems that you are responding to a wrong message.
>
> Not really; if the question is whether or not there is a clock
> application that is standard on the laptop, implicit there is a
On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> Well, it seems that you are responding to a wrong message.
Not really; if the question is whether or not there is a clock
application that is standard on the laptop, implicit there is a
decision as to _what kind_ of clock application. It
Nick,
At Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:13:34 -0500,
nick knouf wrote:
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> > Bert Freudenberg writes:
> >
> > > I question the very assumption that continuously telling
> > > the time is even remotely important on a learning machine
> > > for kids in elementary school age.
> >
> > Dealing with time is a c
> Bert Freudenberg writes:
>
> > I question the very assumption that continuously telling
> > the time is even remotely important on a learning machine
> > for kids in elementary school age.
>
> Dealing with time is a critical life skill that must be learned.
> Having a clock is thus very important
Bert Freudenberg writes:
> I question the very assumption that continuously telling
> the time is even remotely important on a learning machine
> for kids in elementary school age.
Dealing with time is a critical life skill that must be learned.
Having a clock is thus very important.
Keeping the
Note that X button and keyboard events have timestamps, in milliseconds.
(This wraps in some hundreds of days, but I doubt anyone will use the
stopwatch that long; you do have to worry in principle about doing
modulus arithmetic, though IIRC, X servers generally have been using
time since the serve
So it doesn't look like there is consensus on this yet - Mako - since
you seem to be following this (and I'm at a conference), could you
ping me when you think consensus has been reached?
Thanks,
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:03:08PM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> It takes some time to process your mouse click, and under heavier CPU
> load, that time may be long enough that the time label continues to
> redraw before it can be stopped.
Good. I suspected as such, based on your original
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Hal Murray wrote:
>> Obsessive accuracy.
> What's your version of "Obsessive"? Seconds? Milliseconds? Microseconds?
I have no desire to do better than 0.01s. Human reaction times are an order of
magnitude slower than that anyway.
What I meant is, I
Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2007 4:07 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:36:08PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote:
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>>
>>> We still intend to incorporate that - the overhead of launching an
>>> activity is silly.
>>>
>> More precision would m
On Nov 14, 2007, at 22:37 , Eben Eliason wrote:
> I'm talking, really, about interaction overhead. In order to see the
> current time I should press a key, or make a gesture with the mouse,
> or something similar. I shouldn't have to find the clock activity
> wherever that might be, click to lau
On Nov 14, 2007 4:07 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:36:08PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote:
>
> > We still intend to incorporate that - the overhead of launching an
> > activity is silly.
>
> More precision would make this particular comment more helpful. How l
> Obsessive accuracy.
What's your version of "Obsessive"? Seconds? Milliseconds? Microseconds?
Are you assuming that the clocks on various XOs are synchronized? If so, how
well?
[Long discussion to follow in a separate messsage.]
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:36:08PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote:
> We still intend to incorporate that - the overhead of launching an
> activity is silly.
More precision would make this particular comment more helpful. How low
an overhead (in seconds and MB of RAM & IO) are we aiming for? What ar
> I thought about this a bit more, and think that there may be a valid
> split between what might be called Clock and Time (currently
> StopWatch) activities.
I agree with your analysis. There are several important ways in which a
stopwatch and a clock are different.
That said, I'm already findi
> To my prejudice, it sounds like a bad idea.
>
> If you have to do some operations on the laptop and wait many
> seconds just to check the current time, that sounds bad, too.
The clock activity is wholly independent in my perspective from having
a clock in Sugar. We still intend to incorpora
Eben,
> > If you have to do some operations on the laptop and wait many
> > seconds just to check the current time, that sounds bad, too.
>
> The clock activity is wholly independent in my perspective from having
> a clock in Sugar. We still intend to incorporate that - the overhead
> of lau
> What do people think of this distinction?
To my prejudice, it sounds like a bad idea.
If you have to do some operations on the laptop and wait many
seconds just to check the current time, that sounds bad, too.
There was an idea of having a little clock in the Sugar frame. How
about that
Benjamin,
> 1. Clock is non-interactive. It doesn't make sense to share it, or
> save it to the journal, so I've disabled those features.
Human being is good at finding differences, but drawing similarity
out of seemingly different things is more fun if you know it.
> 2. I like small progra
I thought about this a bit more, and think that there may be a valid
split between what might be called Clock and Time (currently
StopWatch) activities.
Clock's primary purpose would be to display a large clock. It would
likely have digital and analog modes, but could probably choose one or
the o
> While you're at it, how about integrating the camera activity with it,
> so it could be like Dick Tracy's 2-way wrist TV.
> :-)
The original message included "Obsessive accuracy", so maybe this option
would be appropriate:
First Atomic Clock Wristwatch
http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/a
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Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> Is there a reason you haven't made the clock and the stopwatch different
> functions for a single activity?
Yes, but not especially good reasons.
Practical:
1. Clock is non-interactive. It doesn't make sense to share it, or s
Eben Eliason wrote:
>> Is there a reason you haven't made the clock and the stopwatch different
>> functions for a single activity?
>>
>
> I second that. I think these could be integrated
>
While you're at it, how about integrating the camera activity with it,
so it could be like Dick Tr
> Is there a reason you haven't made the clock and the stopwatch different
> functions for a single activity?
I second that. I think these could be integrated
- Eben
> Regards,
> Mako
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I'm so glad you got around to doing this! Such tool are badly needed on
the laptop.
Is there a reason you haven't made the clock and the stopwatch different
functions for a single activity?
Regards,
Mako
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James Cameron wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:45:31AM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
>> 2.5. Download: http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-1.xo
>
> Tested on build 625 on a B4, works okay, problems you probably already
> know about
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:45:31AM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
> 2.5. Download: http://dev.laptop.org/~bemasc/StopWatchActivity-1.xo
Tested on build 625 on a B4, works okay, problems you probably already
know about:
1. the Start/Stop text legend disappears when the cursor is over it and
t
stopwatch ever
conceived.
4. Longer description :
StopWatch is a multi-user Sugar stopwatch activity. Features include:
10 Stopwatches per instance
Named stopwatches
Easy to use in ebook mode (with icons indicating the functions of the game keys)
Obsessive accuracy.
Draws 0% CPU when not visible on
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