Don't mean to be alarmist, but I'm posting this in case anyone else is
like me and hasn't been paying attention since this news broke (AIUI)
about a week ago.
Apparently bash has it's own "heartbleed" now, dubbed "shellshock". Warm
fuzzy flashbacks of "TMNT: The Arcade Game" aside, this appear
On 10/01/2014 01:09 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Debian 6: (Including setting up the LTS repos):
$ sudo cat 'deb http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib
non-free' >> /etc/apt/sources.list
$ sudo cat 'deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main
contrib non-free' >> /etc/apt
On 1 October 2014 06:09, Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> Don't mean to be alarmist, but I'm posting this in case anyone else is like
> me and hasn't been paying attention since this news broke (AIUI) about a
> week ago.
>
> Apparently bash has it's own "heartbleed" now, dubbed
On 10/1/14 1:09 AM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Patches have been issued (and likely more to come from what I gather), so:
FWIW, MacOS X now has an update for bash that fixes the bug, apparently
came out last night.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6495
-Steve
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
Other OSes/distros are likely equally easy. Please, reply with
examples to help ensure other people on the same OS/distro as
you have no excuse not to update!
I find it ironic that it's another "big global" security hole
a
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 13:41:43 UTC, JN wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
I find it ironic that it's another "big global" security hole
about which Windows users don't even have to be concerned about.
That's of course very true, since Window
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 13:58:25 UTC, eles wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 13:41:43 UTC, JN wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
I find it ironic that it's another "big global" security hole
about which Windows users don't even have to be
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:29:16 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
You would be surprised how some Fortune 500 companies are doing
their serious work in 100% Windows servers.
Sadly I need to comply with NDAs.
Isn't NASDAQ enough?
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
Apparently bash has it's own "heartbleed" now, dubbed
"shellshock".
Does it affect dash?
Also, how does one update software on linux? Last I checked, when
new version is out, repository of the previous version becomes
utterl
On 10/1/14 10:44 AM, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Apparently bash has it's own "heartbleed" now, dubbed "shellshock".
Does it affect dash?
I don't know, but I think it doesn't. There are tests you can use to
check if your shell is vulne
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:41:22 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:29:16 UTC, Paulo Pinto
wrote:
Isn't NASDAQ enough?
You might be right, after all. There are some Windows-specific
symptoms that support that assertion:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-01
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:44:06 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
Also, how does one update software on linux? Last I checked,
when new version is out, repository of the previous version
becomes utterly abandoned. A pity, on windows one can roll new
software versions as long as they are maintained.
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:44:06 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
Does it affect dash?
No. It is a "bashism", ie an extension specific to Bash. Busybox
users are not concerned neither.
A pity, on windows one can roll new soft
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:42:04 UTC, eles wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:41:22 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 14:29:16 UTC, Paulo Pinto
wrote:
Isn't NASDAQ enough?
You might be right, after all. There are some Windows-specific
symptoms that support
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:45:26 UTC, eles wrote:
The first thing that I love in Linux is the centralized update.
The downside is it's taken down centrally too, while distributed
windows software continues to work independently of each other.
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:48:58
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 16:57:07 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:45:26 UTC, eles wrote:
The first thing that I love in Linux is the centralized update.
The downside is it's taken down centrally too, while
distributed windows software continues to work independen
On 10/1/14 12:57 PM, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:48:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
This claim is so strange I can't even understand what it is about.
Which repositories get abandoned?
Repositories of the not latest version of the OS. Because only latest
version receives developme
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 16:57:07 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:45:26 UTC, eles wrote:
Repositories of the not latest version of the OS. Because only
latest version receives development. That is, if the OS doesn't
have rolling updates.
What is the difference
On 1 October 2014 18:12, Steven Schveighoffer via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On 10/1/14 12:57 PM, Kagamin wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:48:58 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>>>
>>> This claim is so strange I can't even understand what it is about.
>>> Which repositories get abandoned?
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 16:57:07 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:45:26 UTC, eles wrote:
The first thing that I love in Linux is the centralized update.
The downside is it's taken down centrally too, while
distributed windows software continues to work independen
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 17:07:53 UTC, eles wrote:
For how long will the repository taken down? 24 hours? 3 days?
As long as nobody works on it, i.e. forever.
You speak about Red Hat or Debian or Ubuntu repositories? And?
You cannot live without the super-updates for 3 days?
The prob
On 10/1/2014 10:44 AM, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 16:57:07 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:45:26 UTC, eles wrote:
The first thing that I love in Linux is the centralized update.
The downside is it's taken down centrally too
On 10/1/2014 6:41 AM, JN via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Other OSes/distros are likely equally easy. Please, reply with
examples to help ensure other people on the same OS/distro as you have
no excuse not to update!
I find
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 18:42:41 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
A have linux mint 12 installation with mint4win (wubi), on
linux mint forums I was told, that updating from the latest
repository won't work. I would be grateful, if you explain, how
to upgrade it to the latest version. Yeah, theoreti
On 10/01/2014 03:19 PM, Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On 10/1/2014 6:41 AM, JN via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
Other OSes/distros are likely equally easy. Please, reply with
examples to help ensure other pe
On 10/01/2014 02:42 PM, Kagamin wrote:
A have linux mint 12 installation with mint4win (wubi), on linux mint
forums I was told, that updating from the latest repository won't work.
I sympathize:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-install-enlightenment-on-mint-15-
On 10/01/2014 01:38 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
One nice thing about Ubuntu is that they even give you access to
future kernel versions through what they call HWE. In short, I can
run a 14.04 LTS kernel on a 12.04 server, so that I'm able to use
modern hardware and take ad
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 20:45:14 UTC, Nick Sabalausky
wrote:
I suspect Mint may need to do things that way just as a
manpower issue. Mint's a popular distro, but I get the
impression it's development is a relatively small grassroots
thing with much more limited resources than say Debian
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 20:03:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
This a very unpleasant experience you get compared to sticking
to LTS or up to date distro
Erm, upgrading to the latest version is exactly what I want, old
version is of no interest to me. I read, one can reorient
aptitude to latest
On 2 October 2014 08:00, Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-announce
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 20:03:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>>
>> This a very unpleasant experience you get compared to sticking to LTS or
>> up to date distro
>
>
> Erm, upgrading to the latest version is exactly what I want, o
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:00:38 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 20:03:11 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
This a very unpleasant experience you get compared to sticking
to LTS or up to date distro
Erm, upgrading to the latest version is exactly what I want,
old version is of no
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:14:35 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
Doesn't Linux Mint provide an upgrade facility for you?
No idea.
Upgrading by using apt is doable, but from what you've
demonstrated
about your knowledge, I wouldn't recommend it to you.
How software
How software's operation depends on me?
Ah, ok, I see the explanation in tutorial.
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:43:54 UTC, eles wrote:
update-manager -d
It works.
Does it perform package upgrade? The comments are rather scary:
---
Hi, I have installed Linux mint 15 with Mint4Win as Dual boot
with Windows 7.
Then upgraded it to Mint 16 and it was running fine.
But when
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 11:12:12 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:43:54 UTC, eles wrote:
update-manager -d
It works.
Does it perform package upgrade? The comments are rather scary:
---
Hi, I have installed Linux mint 15 with Mint4Win as Dual boot
with Windows 7.
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 11:40:31 UTC, eles wrote:
You simply made the wrong choice in the beginning.
Well, it looked popular and easy. Can I upgrade my mint to lmde?
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:06:16 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 11:40:31 UTC, eles wrote:
Well, it looked popular and easy.
Sorry. It's just that everything that glitters...
Can I upgrade my mint to lmde?
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should
be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution).
Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How
mint package update differs from a rolling distro package
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should
be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution).
Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should
be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution).
Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should
be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution).
Do rolling distributions guarantee to not overwrite fstab? How
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:31:07 UTC, eles wrote:
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE
should be a one-time process (it's a rolling distribution).
Do roll
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:31:07 UTC, eles wrote:
The former attempt stability (because all packages are tested
together, along with their interactions), while the latter
attempt cutting-edge software (you update software as it gets
produced).
This generally true but not entirely true. R
On 10/3/2014 3:25 AM, David Nadlinger via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
I doubt. At least, not easily. However, installing LMDE should be a
one-time process (it's a rolling distrib
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 17:20:11 UTC, Brad Roberts via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On 10/3/2014 3:25 AM, David Nadlinger via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 07:16:14 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 12:44:08 UTC, eles wrote:
My oldest syste
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:51:08 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:31:07 UTC, eles wrote:
The former attempt stability (because all packages are tested
together, along with their interactions), while the latter
attempt cutting-edge software (you update software as it gets
On 10/01/2014 05:15 PM, Dicebot wrote:
[Mint] gained lot of popularity when
Ubuntu switched to Unity as default desktop environment and Fedora moved
with Gnome 3 - quite many users started looking for a distro with more
conservative defaults.
Yea, y'know, about that [entirely predictable] phen
On 1 Oct 2014 21:55, "Nick Sabalausky via Digitalmars-d-announce" <
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/01/2014 01:38 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>>
>>
>> One nice thing about Ubuntu is that they even give you access to
>> future kernel versions through what
Brad Roberts via Digitalmars-d-announce, el 1 de October a las 12:19 me
escribiste:
> On 10/1/2014 6:41 AM, JN via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> >>
> >>Other OSes/distros are likely equally easy. Please, reply with
> >>exam
Steven Schveighoffer, el 1 de October a las 10:56 me escribiste:
> On 10/1/14 10:44 AM, Kagamin wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 05:09:45 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> >>Apparently bash has it's own "heartbleed" now, dubbed "shellshock".
> >
> >Does it affect dash?
>
> I don't know, but
Dicebot, el 1 de October a las 17:44 me escribiste:
> On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 16:57:07 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
> >On Wednesday, 1 October 2014 at 15:45:26 UTC, eles wrote:
> >>The first thing that I love in Linux is the centralized update.
> >
> >The downside is it's taken down centrally too,
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 11:12:12 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:43:54 UTC, eles wrote:
update-manager -d
It works.
Does it perform package upgrade? The comments are rather scary:
---
Hi, I have installed Linux mint 15 with Mint4Win as Dual boot
with Windows 7.
On 10/05/2014 04:54 AM, eles wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 11:12:12 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:43:54 UTC, eles wrote:
update-manager -d
It works.
Does it perform package upgrade? The comments are rather scary:
---
Hi, I have installed Linux mint 15 with Min
On 10/01/2014 04:50 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On 10/01/2014 01:38 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>>
>> One nice thing about Ubuntu is that they even give you access to
>> future kernel versions through what they call HWE. In short, I can
>> run a 14.04 LTS kernel on a 12.04 s
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:25:59 UTC, eles wrote:
Debian and Debian-based asks you to confirm file overwrite
(usually, the diff is displayed too).
Isn't it the same package manager? It should be able to do the
same on mint. Or may be fstab can be copied somewhere and then
back at some po
On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 21:13:01 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:25:59 UTC, eles wrote:
Debian and Debian-based asks you to confirm file overwrite
(usually, the diff is displayed too).
Isn't it the same package manager? It should be able to do the
same on mint. Or may
On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 21:53:08 UTC, eles wrote:
On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 21:13:01 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
On Friday, 3 October 2014 at 11:25:59 UTC, eles wrote:
it) and a new-comer on the scene is Tranglu, that I just
*Tanglu
http://www.tanglu.org/en/
On 10/2/14 3:42 AM, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:14:35 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
Doesn't Linux Mint provide an upgrade facility for you?
No idea.
I use Linux Mint, I believe I upgraded once *. I don't think it was
complex, just an upgrade through
On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 15:06:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer
wrote:
On 10/2/14 3:42 AM, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:14:35 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
Doesn't Linux Mint provide an upgrade facility for you?
No idea.
I use Linux Mint, I believe I
On 10/6/14 12:10 PM, Kiith-Sa wrote:
On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 15:06:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 10/2/14 3:42 AM, Kagamin wrote:
On Thursday, 2 October 2014 at 07:14:35 UTC, Iain Buclaw via
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
Doesn't Linux Mint provide an upgrade facility for you?
No
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