[digitalradio] Re: what's the difference ?

2005-02-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
Good news, Rick! Thanks... 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dave, > > The ability of the software that you requested has arrived. SCAMP will > DEFINITELY not TX if the channel is busy with anything! > > Sometimes it a

[digitalradio] Ask how many work such modes as ... how many even own a TNC

2005-02-20 Thread WD8ARZ
Hmmm, I have a HK-232 modified with the Timewave upgrades. A PK-232 that I will eventually do the same to. Also a HK-21 Pocket Packet that I just love. Even have had them hooked up to a BBS computer system I used to run that gave hams packet access over the phone line BBS systems. Was a great w

[digitalradio] Re: Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dick Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i COULDN'T LOGIN EARLIER. But is ok now. > Tnx Dick The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="

Re: [digitalradio] Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread Dick Ray
i COULDN'T LOGIN EARLIER. But is ok now. - Original Message - From: "John Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 01:14 Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Need cluster testers again > > get... can't open connection to 208.15.25.196 > > > At 07:04 PM 2/20/05, you wr

RE: [digitalradio] Digest Number 1447

2005-02-20 Thread Brad Granger
BOTTOM LINE: your sound card just can't cut it. And when using my ST-6 TU I can't only copy about 60% of the sound cards on RTTY. why? Because your tones are in the " ballpark " at best... I've noticed that the local ANARTS broadcast is transmitted at 200Hz shift. When did that become the norm

[digitalradio] Re: test cluster now please

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:27 PM 2/20/05, you wrote: > > > >OK, I have got myself connected, please give it a try. > > > >I had to change the forwarded ports on my DSL router. > > > OK Andy it works Yeah !! It only took me two day

Re: [digitalradio] test cluster now please

2005-02-20 Thread John Becker
At 09:27 PM 2/20/05, you wrote: >OK, I have got myself connected, please give it a try. > >I had to change the forwarded ports on my DSL router. OK Andy it works The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>http://feeds.feedburner.com

[digitalradio] test cluster now please

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
OK, I have got myself connected, please give it a try. I had to change the forwarded ports on my DSL router. The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" width="200" style="b

Re: [digitalradio] Re: what's the difference ?

2005-02-20 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
And of course, SCAMP, is about to become a primary transport mechanism for Winlink... email over ham radio...as soon as Rick Muething finishes writing the PMBO code... __ Howard S. White Ph.D. P. Eng., VE3GFW/K6 AE6SM "No Good Deed Goes U

Re: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
Dave: I actually don't agree that "Such Regulations are initially required". However as a compromise, I would be willing to accept some limited form of "Such Regulations" if it means that we can get out of "Technology Jail". I use Luddites as a generic term to describe those who oppose inn

Re: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
1.yes I am very active on all the modes but I also spend a lot of my spare time experimenting with new modes such as SCAMP, etc... 2.While I value a statistically sound poll, such a poll as you suggest would be totally unscientific and the results unreliable... 3.You miss the point

[digitalradio] hell 3580.00 usb

2005-02-20 Thread kb4hqa
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[digitalradio] Re: Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Ron Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy, > > When I connect or should I say try, I get a forceful reject message > > Ron W4LDE I get the same thing, back to the drawing board..meanwhile the cluster is up on the old computer gain and should allow co

Re: [digitalradio] Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread Ron Walters
Andy, When I connect or should I say try, I get a forceful reject message Ron W4LDE obrienaj wrote: >I have moved the cluster software to a faster, more reliable, PC on >my network. That was no small accomplishment since the Cluster >software was not friendly to a simple transfer. I need

[digitalradio] Re: Fw: Your email requires verification verify#P0CAlPOrJU6AMVlqVropvLftpP2mLGqI

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "obrienaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Not me... > > > - In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone else getting the below, everyltime you try to send to the > group? > > He needs to be removed, if that is

[digitalradio] Re: Fw: Your email requires verification verify#P0CAlPOrJU6AMVlqVropvLftpP2mLGqI

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--Not me... - In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else getting the below, everyltime you try to send to the group? > He needs to be removed, if that is the case. > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PRO

[digitalradio] Fw: Your email requires verification verify#P0CAlPOrJU6AMVlqVropvLftpP2mLGqI

2005-02-20 Thread Danny Douglas
Anyone else getting the below, everyltime you try to send to the group? He needs to be removed, if that is the case. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:28 PM Subject: Your email requires verification verify#P0CAlPOrJU

[digitalradio] Re: Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm click on that, the command window comes up and says connecting, then it > just goes away. So something wrong? > Yep, give me about 30 more minutes The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://

Re: [digitalradio] Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread Danny Douglas
Hmm click on that, the command window comes up and says connecting, then it just goes away. So something wrong? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.1.0 - Release Date: 2/18/2005 The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTE

Re: [digitalradio] Re:TNCs

2005-02-20 Thread Danny Douglas
Even when I used the TNCs , I didnt used AMTOR or PACTOR. So, havent lost anything there. I seem to be able to copy many more signals now, than when I was using them too, mainly becuase there are many more signals there. The sound card programs have opened up the world of digital to most hams, t

[digitalradio] New archives for this group

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
FYI, I have added a new archive for this group, I think it is easier than the slow Yahoogroups method. Test drive at http://www.mail-archive.com/digitalradio@yahoogroups.com/ Andy K3UK The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>htt

[digitalradio] One of the interesting upgrades out, is for the HK-232 / PK-232 series of TNC's

2005-02-20 Thread WD8ARZ
One of the interesting upgrades out, is for the HK-232 / PK-232 series of TNC's. Not only does the HK / PK232 series of TNC have excellent passive hf filters, now they are further improved with cascaded DSP filters. The ability to take the load off of the CPU is a great reason to use a TNC. Th

[digitalradio] Re: Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy, > > Tried twice, just a blank screen here. > Does not ask for my call or any input. > Jerry K0HZI Thanks Jerry, give unti around 0200 UTC, I need to add a few more files The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CL

Re: [digitalradio] Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread John Becker
get... can't open connection to 208.15.25.196 At 07:04 PM 2/20/05, you wrote: >I have moved the cluster software to a faster, more reliable, PC on >my network. That was no small accomplishment since the Cluster >software was not friendly to a simple transfer. I need a few tests, >I am not s

[digitalradio] BPL-Busters. How to Design Them. Not Kilowatt Vigilante Justice.

2005-02-20 Thread expeditionradio
How to Design BPL-Buster Communications By careful analysis of interfering signals, a communications system can be designed to optimally operate in the presence of BPL interference. Yes... there are limitations, but with repetetive or multi-carrier signals such as some of the BPL signals we have

[digitalradio] Re: Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread Jerry
Andy, Tried twice, just a blank screen here. Does not ask for my call or any input. Jerry K0HZI The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" width="200" style="border:0" al

[digitalradio] Need cluster testers again

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
I have moved the cluster software to a faster, more reliable, PC on my network. That was no small accomplishment since the Cluster software was not friendly to a simple transfer. I need a few tests, I am not sure it is working correctly because I can't connect myself. While I am working on

Re: [digitalradio] Re:TNCs

2005-02-20 Thread John Becker
When was the last time you used that sound card and had a ARQ Amtor or a Pactor ARQ QSO ? You can't do that with a sound card. I have been playing with a linux program but even it's only about 42% of the 100% of the TNC.. BOTTOM LINE: your sound card just can't cut it. And when using my ST-6 TU

Re: [digitalradio] Re:TNCs

2005-02-20 Thread Scott Erwin
I have several TNC's and oh no, several terminal units as well. I also have a sound card setup in the mix of digital equipment. You can't do ARQ modes with a sound card except for HFTerm which required Linux and as it locks the OS from running any other programs you might as well run Terman93 (AN-

Re: [digitalradio] BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Scott Erwin
I already have my BPL buster up and running right now. It's called a 10-meter beacon! You will only need a Tech plus license at a minimum and no coronation requirements to put up a low power slow speed CW signal with a basic dipole antenna, a very cheap AM CB radio, and some way to key the PTT swi

RE: [digitalradio] Re: what's the difference ?

2005-02-20 Thread Rick Williams
Dave, The ability of the software that you requested has arrived. SCAMP will DEFINITELY not TX if the channel is busy with anything! Sometimes it almost seems too protective:) Since it is a wide BW mode, a tiny and weak CW signal, which just happens to be about two KC above the dial freq, has be

[digitalradio] Re:TNCs

2005-02-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
I use my KAM frequently; WinWarbler lets me run MMTTY and the KAM simultaneously, providing diversity decoding of one signal, or the ability to copy both a DX station and his/her pileup. I also have a PK232 and an STSII-e; I use the latter for Pactor, and (rarely and somewhat perversely) PSK31.

[digitalradio] Re: what's the difference ?

2005-02-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
"Qualified" is a characteristic of the software application used to run a semi-automatic station. A qualified application can detect that a frequency is already in use by a QSO in any of several common amateur HF modes: CW, SSB, RTTY, PSK, MFSK, Olivia, Pactor, etc; if such an application recei

[digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
That's two messages in a row inveighing against modern-day Luddites holding back bandwidth-based allocation without citation of anyone actually taking this position. Perhaps this is another example of "If you hold a weak position, attack an imaginary enemy". The true obstacle to bandwidth-based

Re: [digitalradio] Re:TNCs

2005-02-20 Thread Danny Douglas
I still have not one but two, neither of which is hooked up at the moment, and havent been for the past several years. Why bother with them, when we have perfectly good computer soundboards they do the job. Someday, I may get into a situation where I dont have internet capability, and will have

Re: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread John Becker
And while you are at it... Ask how many work such modes as Packet, Amtor, Pactor and RTTY * WITH * a TNC ... I for one would love to see just how many even own a TNC.. (guess <5%) Let's see the big picture here. At 03:19 PM 2/20/05, you wrote: >--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. H

[digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
I knew about *those* Luddites, Andy; I was wondering to whom Howard was referring in drawing his analogy. But thanks for the excellent overview... 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "obrienaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "

[digitalradio] Differing ham interests -- not luddites

2005-02-20 Thread Rick Williams
Could we not use highly inflammatory comments such as calling other hams "Luddites"? There are NO luddite hams that I have found. There can be differing viewpoints on what types of operation have value to a given individual. Remember that the luddite term referred to people who were employed in

[digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Ed
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Howard S. White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Howard Why don't you start a poll and see just how many on this group (under FCC regulations) would be in favor of what you suport. By the way, are you active on the various modes that this reflector encoura

[digitalradio] what's the difference ?

2005-02-20 Thread John Becker
What's the difference between a " "non qualified automatic modes " and " qualified automatic modes " ? The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" width="200"

Re: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Dr. Howard S. White
Thanks for the historical perspective.. I am fortunate enough to have studied English History many years ago where I learned the term... Luddites are those "who distrusts or fears the inevitable changes brought about by new technology" and in the end "the Luddite Movement ceased to be active"

[digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread obrienaj
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just who are these Luddites you're so fond of attacking, Howard? Finally, an chance to use the information from those seemingly useless history classes I endured while frowning up in the UK. Andy K3UK >Fro

[digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques Needed to Mitigate Interference

2005-02-20 Thread Dave Bernstein
Just who are these Luddites you're so fond of attacking, Howard? In no discussion here or elsewhere have I seen anyone argue against the position "we should eliminate government enforcement of mode-based frequency allocations". Opposition to proposals like the ARRL's that eliminate mode-based

[digitalradio] Wide sig on 30m

2005-02-20 Thread bfarcher
Anybody have an idea what the 1,700 hz wide signal is on 10.139.500? The K3UK DIGITAL MODES SPOTTING CLUSTER AT telnet://208.15.25.196/ http://dxcluster.blogspot.com";>http://feeds.feedburner.com/DigitalSpotter.gif"; height="67" width="200" style="border:0" alt="Digital Spotter"/> Yaho