Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-08-04 Thread Cian OConnor
gayatri n narlagaya...@yahoo.com writes: If they're reading an article, might it not be better for the search results to appear on the page with the article? There are various ways in which you could do this, ranging from something akin to an email client (outlook/thunderbird/etc), to google

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-08-04 Thread Nathaniel Flick
I say whatever you do, do it consistently and the user will get it. Even interfaces and navigational elements that break the mold do so with a purpose; no matter how much grunge or web 2.0 is applied to the situation. Regarding the point about the Cancel button, I say leave it in. There are many

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-08-01 Thread Sascha Brossmann | brsma : designificance
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 21:41, Cian OConnorcian.ocon...@gmail.com wrote: If the situation is one in which the user has simply lost interest in the original task, then what they'll be looking for is a route back to whatever they were doing previously. In which case cancel is confusing and

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-08-01 Thread gayatri n
Thanks guys, for all the input. Seems like there are questions regarding transaction that is going to take place on the page. This page is simply to read an article and when done reading be able to go back to the results page. When I look at browser back links they are actually icons that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-08-01 Thread Elizabeth Buie
At 1:28 PM -0400 7/31/09, gayatri n wrote: This page is simply to read an article and when done reading be able to go back to the results page. Aha. Then it is clearly not a candidate for cancel because there is nothing to cancel. What you want is navigational, not transactional. I'd use a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-31 Thread Elizabeth Buie
At 4:00 PM -0300 7/31/09, Gino Rodrigues wrote: Users are rarely aware about beeing acting or navigating. I think that's at least partly because too many designs mix up the affordances, using one for the other. Elizabeth -- Elizabeth Buie Luminanze Consulting, LLC web: www.luminanze.com twt:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread Gayatri N
Thanks a lot guys! The feedback is really helpful. I initially had an informative/descriptive link to the top left of the page, above the article title and someone said users would confuse the Back to Results Page link to be the title of the article. I personally didn't think so because of the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread Pietro Desiato
I think that a good starting point should be the difference between primaryu and secondary actions (when talking about forms). In telling so, I refer to the work done by Luke Wroblewski on form design. In some cases, having a link is a good way to visually differentiate the secondary action from

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread Elizabeth Buie
At 2:38 AM -0400 7/30/09, Pietro Desiato wrote: I think that a good starting point should be the difference between primaryu and secondary actions (when talking about forms). In telling so, I refer to the work done by Luke Wroblewski on form design. In some cases, having a link is a good way to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread J. Ambrose Little
I skimmed this thread with interest. I agree with the proposal that if you want a specific action to help guide the users to know it is okay (i.e., sometimes clicking Back breaks things and may make some folks tentative), then having a Back to results kind of link is good. It's a familiar

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread Cian OConnor
Elizabeth Buie eb...@luminanze.com writes: At 12:50 AM -0400 7/29/09, Claudia wrote: I am of two minds on this. I have read some opinions that you don't need a Cancel action at all (be it a button or a link), that you just need to provide the user with clear alternatives to proceeding.

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread Elizabeth Buie
At 8:41 PM +0100 7/30/09, Cian OConnor wrote: If the situation is one in which the user has simply lost interest in the original task... If the situation is one in which the user has started a transaction of some kind, then what they really want to do is kill that transaction to make sure it

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-30 Thread Elizabeth Buie
If the current page is a later page of a multi-page form -- i.e., if the user clicked Submit or whatever to get there (I will save my rant against the Submit label for another time) -- then using the Back button will often produce a dialog box asking whether or not to submit the data again. I

[IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Gayatri N
Hello Everyone, I am wondering if using buttons or navigational elements that look like buttons(for e.g BACK link) are intuitive? Let me give you guys some context here: I am working on designing a knowledge base interface where a user can look for articles and click on a particular link to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Ariel Leroux
From my experience, a button is usually significant in a moving forward submitting ... as in dong something. However, I have encountered imballances in my design work which required a sort of hybrid. For a user to easily navigate and move forward without having to think much on it, usually it'll

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Yohan Creemers
Based on convention I would say that hyperlinks indicate navigation, buttons indicate actions. To differentiate navigating from acting: navigating doesn't change any data, is reversible; acting does change data or is not reversible. I would put Back and Cancel under navigating, and Submit, Save,

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Claudia
Hi, I also know the problem particularly when I discuss with developers. Often I have the situation that we have a form that can be submitted (so we have a save or ok button) and we have a cancel button. The points we discuss is: - do we need a cancel button on a website where you can click

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Shivan Kannan
Hi If you see gmail interface, they have a 'Back to Inbox' text link unlike its adjacent buttons. This is to make the back more prominent for the user and also that it is in blue underlined (a convention for links). You can use the button if that is the only button in that row or column, or you

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Kevin
GN, My general rule of thumb for links vs. buttons is this: links take you places, buttons perform an action. However, in form submission or a wizard-like submission process (especially in applications), I've found that users expect to see buttons to continue, cancel, edit or go back in the

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Jon Karpoff
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Elizabeth Buie
At 12:50 AM -0400 7/29/09, Claudia wrote: I also know the problem particularly when I discuss with developers. Often I have the situation that we have a form that can be submitted (so we have a save or ok button) and we have a cancel button. The points we discuss is: - do we need a cancel button

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Sam Sutton
My initial response would be - surely the users can just use the back button? Unless there's specific reasons you've identified why this won't work for your project of course. Assuming you do need an element on the page that takes the users back, then I would agree with the others here that you

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of Buttons versus Links for Navigation

2009-07-29 Thread Lisa Rex
Have you considered calling the link 'Return to search results' if they've arrived via site search results? Do you really need a back link / button for other situations? What if they've arrived via search engine? I'd let the browser Back button take priority here, apart from if they've come via